Steel Panther is one of those bands where you're like, oh haha spoof band neat WAIT A SECOND? These guys can actually play just about everybody else on the scene under the table? Like it's not even close they are completely on a different level?
Steel Panther is one of those bands where you're like, oh haha spoof band neat WAIT A SECOND? These guys can actually play just about everybody else on the scene under the table? Like it's not even close they are completely on a different level?
Huh.
Yeah. Michael Starr and Satchel were in a few LA bands together in the late 80s/early 90s, primarily doing Van Halen, Whitesnake, and the ocassional original cut and Satchel/Russ Parish went to GIT (Guitar Institute of Technology) and lived/studied under Paul Gilbert for a couple of years.
The new Rival Sons album, Darkfighter dropped June 2nd and I've been listening to it.
I like it but it's only 8 songs and 39 total minutes long. They released 4 singles starting in October of last year I think, so by the time I got the album I was already super familiar with half of it, which is kind of a bummer. Wasn't much to really dig into so it feels like it's done before I can really get into the grooves. That said that's kinda been a thing they've done before. They release a big, blowout album, then a year or so later they put out a smaller, slightly more eclectic record. Then after another year or so they come back swinging with a knockout. So who knows.
It makes it annoying trying to learn something if you have to tune that low. Strings get all warbly and rubber bandy and all the chords don't make sense any more.
It makes it annoying trying to learn something if you have to tune that low. Strings get all warbly and rubber bandy and all the chords don't make sense any more.
I think Humanity's Last Breath uses drop E1 on a six string with a 28" baritone guitar neck.
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It makes it annoying trying to learn something if you have to tune that low. Strings get all warbly and rubber bandy and all the chords don't make sense any more.
It's a reason I stopped working on Children of Bodom songs after Are You Dead Yet, cause Alexi went drop C on literally every song, when early stuff was E-flat during his heavy Yngwie phase on the Sinergy trifecta and the first 2 CoB albums.
Same problem with Kamelot, a couple of tracks on Shadow Empire and Awakening are in freaking Drop B, talk about floppy strings.
No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
an annoying thing is whenever I look up tabs for some of my favorite metal songs how many of them are in like C standard or something crazy like that
Some modern metalcore is using F# 7 string standard. So on my 8 string I can just tune my high G down to F# to maintain interval integrity and ignore the high E. But then there's stuff like Veil of Maya who has been tuning F#BF#BEG#C# and to get my 8 string to do that easily would mean tuning the top 6 strings UP a whole step and I'm just not fooling with that.
For all the other standards it's nice to have a plugin with a transposer.
I just bought janelle monae tickets so happy pride y’all.
This would be my first indoor concert since Covid started so that’s a bit of a thing.
So anyway I finished checkout, realized that date sounded familiar and it’s literally the day before riot fest starts. Those 4 days are gonna be looooong
Edit: god damnit live nation you screwed me with an add-on upcharge I didn’t want to add for early venue entry!
I'm slowly getting better at moving barre chord shapes around, at least on my acoustic, but the barre hurts my index finger more there, it's just easier to anchor my other fingers on the thicker strings.
an annoying thing is whenever I look up tabs for some of my favorite metal songs how many of them are in like C standard or something crazy like that
Some modern metalcore is using F# 7 string standard. So on my 8 string I can just tune my high G down to F# to maintain interval integrity and ignore the high E. But then there's stuff like Veil of Maya who has been tuning F#BF#BEG#C# and to get my 8 string to do that easily would mean tuning the top 6 strings UP a whole step and I'm just not fooling with that.
For all the other standards it's nice to have a plugin with a transposer.
I'm slowly getting better at moving barre chord shapes around, at least on my acoustic, but the barre hurts my index finger more there, it's just easier to anchor my other fingers on the thicker strings.
an annoying thing is whenever I look up tabs for some of my favorite metal songs how many of them are in like C standard or something crazy like that
Some modern metalcore is using F# 7 string standard. So on my 8 string I can just tune my high G down to F# to maintain interval integrity and ignore the high E. But then there's stuff like Veil of Maya who has been tuning F#BF#BEG#C# and to get my 8 string to do that easily would mean tuning the top 6 strings UP a whole step and I'm just not fooling with that.
For all the other standards it's nice to have a plugin with a transposer.
What is a transposer? That sounds useful
Do they make pedal ones by chance?
Pitch Shifter, detuner, etc. The Digitech Whammy pedal exists although it is usually used as an effect. I play through the Archetype: Petrucci plugin which has a built in transposer. I'm sure others exist as well.
Note, that they are not perfect. They work pretty well for small pitch shifts but large ones tend to sound off because they change the pitch of everything coming through, including sounds from your fingers and picks that might not change in pitch much if you are playing on a downtuned guitar.
Yeah if you're just playing at home then it should sound just fine. Try it from standard tuning too.
Edit: oh also, either use headphones or turn your amp up enough to drown out the acoustic sound of the strings. Shifting down a half step and still being able to hear the normal tuning will really throw you off.
could have sworn someone was talking about the unraveling of pup the band this last week but maybe it was further back.
anyway i just went into my first record store in like a decade. I got the new janelle monae, the pup record and also found someone had just sold them a copy of the front bottoms talon of the hawk so I grabbed those and realized I needed to get out of there before it became actively bad for my accounts.
But I had an employee ask me if i needed help finding anything and my offhand joke of "i don't even know it's probably all out of print" turned into a 10 minute convo about the band pretty girls make graves and I legit was at a loss for words. Like this music was huge for me in fucking suburban ohio as a teenager where it felt like it was only me that cared about any of that stuff. And then over the years I've lost my level of connectedness to "the scene" as it where and was confused, shocked, and taken back to being like 15 because there was another adult human that wanted to engage about this band. I'm sure that was word vomit but man, it was like the good side of the know it all record store stereotype. It was magic. Long story short i'm on their list now and we'll see what happens sooner, matador reprints any of their stuff after 20 years or someone sells a copy to the shop lol.
but to go back to Pup i actually really love this record, and I didn't notice just listening to it digitally that both side A and B start with one of those song skits and it flows really nicely. i agree though that I'm not really into the robot song. I haven't really gathered my thoughts on it but it's just a little too much somehow. The intro goes incredibly hard for a piano bit about shitting out something bad for the label and people who haven't listened to new music in a decade and god damn if I don't feel that in my bones.
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Yeah, we were talking about that record not too long ago. Glad you’re liking it! Talon of the Hawk is a goddamn masterpiece as well. It always makes me so happy to see people into The Front Bottoms because the first few times I saw them were at basement shows and free “music in the park” nights put on by various local towns. Even then, they were pretty incredible live.
She said, "You're pretty good with words, but words won't save your life."
And they didn't.
So he died.
Yeah, we were talking about that record not too long ago. Glad you’re liking it! Talon of the Hawk is a goddamn masterpiece as well. It always makes me so happy to see people into The Front Bottoms because the first few times I saw them were at basement shows and free “music in the park” nights put on by various local towns. Even then, they were pretty incredible live.
Talon is great but I'll always stan Back on Top and Rose more.
I got to have the “oh nice used copy. Wait 10th anniversary?” Instant aging experience when I pulled that one out.
I had forgotten just how much of this was bangers. “Hey man I love you but no fucking way” was just a thing in my vocabulary that whole summer at least.
I got to have the “oh nice used copy. Wait 10th anniversary?” Instant aging experience when I pulled that one out.
I had forgotten just how much of this was bangers. “Hey man I love you but no fucking way” was just a thing in my vocabulary that whole summer at least.
My first tattoo will forever be "I wanna contribute to the chaos"
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The Front Bottoms have the very specific problem of sounding too much like a band that one of my close friends in college would have wailed the lyrics of into the night while bemoaning his latest heartbreak.
Not a bad guy, overall, we're still friends and he is the person who introduced me to a lot of music that I love.
But there are also bands that I avoided listening to for years because I only knew them through the context of hearing about how deep and sad they were at three in the morning.
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The headline is stupid, but they’re just talking about machine learning based sound isolation, not re-creating Lennon’s voice to “sing” a new song. The article says they used software to isolate his vocals from some piano noodling on a recording so they could use it in a song.
Which is something that’s been done with clumsier tools since digital (and even analog) recording has existed. It’s just more effective and efficient with good software.
It also mentioned the same software was used on the recordings that Peter Jackson used for his documentary to get clearer, more usable audio from the room recordings.
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She said, "You're pretty good with words, but words won't save your life."
And they didn't.
So he died.
The headline is stupid, but they’re just talking about machine learning based sound isolation, not re-creating Lennon’s voice to “sing” a new song. The article says they used software to isolate his vocals from some piano noodling on a recording so they could use it in a song.
Which is something that’s been done with clumsier tools since digital (and even analog) recording has existed. It’s just more effective and efficient with good software.
It also mentioned the same software was used on the recordings that Peter Jackson used for his documentary to get clearer, more usable audio from the room recordings.
It may technically be the same technology but I don't think taking some rough demos John Lennon did decades ago and using it as the basis of a new song is anything but ghastly where ever its done.
The headline is stupid, but they’re just talking about machine learning based sound isolation, not re-creating Lennon’s voice to “sing” a new song. The article says they used software to isolate his vocals from some piano noodling on a recording so they could use it in a song.
Which is something that’s been done with clumsier tools since digital (and even analog) recording has existed. It’s just more effective and efficient with good software.
It also mentioned the same software was used on the recordings that Peter Jackson used for his documentary to get clearer, more usable audio from the room recordings.
It may technically be the same technology but I don't think taking some rough demos John Lennon did decades ago and using it as the basis of a new song is anything but ghastly where ever its done.
Well yeah, turning old demos into new songs is a different discussion though. They've been doing that since the mid 90s at least (with "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love"). Personally, as far as that goes, if his family is cool with it, and it's just audio that he had already recorded, I don't have a huge problem with it, but I can understand why it would squick some people out. And that's perfectly fair.
Just pointing out that it's a very different beast than using "AI" to create faked recordings based on voice samples.
She said, "You're pretty good with words, but words won't save your life."
And they didn't.
So he died.
If he wants to release the 'last Beatles record', Carnival of Light is still sitting in a vault somewhere.
So he should release that before whatever this thing is.
The headline is stupid, but they’re just talking about machine learning based sound isolation, not re-creating Lennon’s voice to “sing” a new song. The article says they used software to isolate his vocals from some piano noodling on a recording so they could use it in a song.
Which is something that’s been done with clumsier tools since digital (and even analog) recording has existed. It’s just more effective and efficient with good software.
It also mentioned the same software was used on the recordings that Peter Jackson used for his documentary to get clearer, more usable audio from the room recordings.
It may technically be the same technology but I don't think taking some rough demos John Lennon did decades ago and using it as the basis of a new song is anything but ghastly where ever its done.
Well yeah, turning old demos into new songs is a different discussion though. They've been doing that since the mid 90s at least (with "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love"). Personally, as far as that goes, if his family is cool with it, and it's just audio that he had already recorded, I don't have a huge problem with it, but I can understand why it would squick some people out. And that's perfectly fair.
Just pointing out that it's a very different beast than using "AI" to create faked recordings based on voice samples.
Makes me think about how Static-X is still touring and how they have their new singer (I believe it's Edsel Dope) dress as a robot zombie Wayne Static. I think it's pretty fucked up and gross, regardless of the band saying Wayne's family is okay with it!
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Huh.
Yeah. Michael Starr and Satchel were in a few LA bands together in the late 80s/early 90s, primarily doing Van Halen, Whitesnake, and the ocassional original cut and Satchel/Russ Parish went to GIT (Guitar Institute of Technology) and lived/studied under Paul Gilbert for a couple of years.
Paul may know what he's doing:
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But moving those (e major ones l shape ones) around without losing the shape is fuckin hard now.
I like it but it's only 8 songs and 39 total minutes long. They released 4 singles starting in October of last year I think, so by the time I got the album I was already super familiar with half of it, which is kind of a bummer. Wasn't much to really dig into so it feels like it's done before I can really get into the grooves. That said that's kinda been a thing they've done before. They release a big, blowout album, then a year or so later they put out a smaller, slightly more eclectic record. Then after another year or so they come back swinging with a knockout. So who knows.
This is my standout track though for sure.
It makes it annoying trying to learn something if you have to tune that low. Strings get all warbly and rubber bandy and all the chords don't make sense any more.
I think Humanity's Last Breath uses drop E1 on a six string with a 28" baritone guitar neck.
It's a reason I stopped working on Children of Bodom songs after Are You Dead Yet, cause Alexi went drop C on literally every song, when early stuff was E-flat during his heavy Yngwie phase on the Sinergy trifecta and the first 2 CoB albums.
Same problem with Kamelot, a couple of tracks on Shadow Empire and Awakening are in freaking Drop B, talk about floppy strings.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
I'm not a huge fan of Slayer, but that's a pretty rad lunchbox. I wonder if there's anything similar for bands I'm into...
Some modern metalcore is using F# 7 string standard. So on my 8 string I can just tune my high G down to F# to maintain interval integrity and ignore the high E. But then there's stuff like Veil of Maya who has been tuning F#BF#BEG#C# and to get my 8 string to do that easily would mean tuning the top 6 strings UP a whole step and I'm just not fooling with that.
For all the other standards it's nice to have a plugin with a transposer.
This would be my first indoor concert since Covid started so that’s a bit of a thing.
So anyway I finished checkout, realized that date sounded familiar and it’s literally the day before riot fest starts. Those 4 days are gonna be looooong
Edit: god damnit live nation you screwed me with an add-on upcharge I didn’t want to add for early venue entry!
What is a transposer? That sounds useful
Do they make pedal ones by chance?
Pitch Shifter, detuner, etc. The Digitech Whammy pedal exists although it is usually used as an effect. I play through the Archetype: Petrucci plugin which has a built in transposer. I'm sure others exist as well.
Note, that they are not perfect. They work pretty well for small pitch shifts but large ones tend to sound off because they change the pitch of everything coming through, including sounds from your fingers and picks that might not change in pitch much if you are playing on a downtuned guitar.
Probably easiest to set over USB though
If I tune down to d standard and shift it down a level you think I could get some of the stuff I wanna play sounding okay without rubbery strings?
Edit: oh also, either use headphones or turn your amp up enough to drown out the acoustic sound of the strings. Shifting down a half step and still being able to hear the normal tuning will really throw you off.
Miyako so needs to be better known.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Here’s “Death Machine”
And they didn't.
So he died.
anyway i just went into my first record store in like a decade. I got the new janelle monae, the pup record and also found someone had just sold them a copy of the front bottoms talon of the hawk so I grabbed those and realized I needed to get out of there before it became actively bad for my accounts.
But I had an employee ask me if i needed help finding anything and my offhand joke of "i don't even know it's probably all out of print" turned into a 10 minute convo about the band pretty girls make graves and I legit was at a loss for words. Like this music was huge for me in fucking suburban ohio as a teenager where it felt like it was only me that cared about any of that stuff. And then over the years I've lost my level of connectedness to "the scene" as it where and was confused, shocked, and taken back to being like 15 because there was another adult human that wanted to engage about this band. I'm sure that was word vomit but man, it was like the good side of the know it all record store stereotype. It was magic. Long story short i'm on their list now and we'll see what happens sooner, matador reprints any of their stuff after 20 years or someone sells a copy to the shop lol.
but to go back to Pup i actually really love this record, and I didn't notice just listening to it digitally that both side A and B start with one of those song skits and it flows really nicely. i agree though that I'm not really into the robot song. I haven't really gathered my thoughts on it but it's just a little too much somehow. The intro goes incredibly hard for a piano bit about shitting out something bad for the label and people who haven't listened to new music in a decade and god damn if I don't feel that in my bones.
And they didn't.
So he died.
Talon is great but I'll always stan Back on Top and Rose more.
I had forgotten just how much of this was bangers. “Hey man I love you but no fucking way” was just a thing in my vocabulary that whole summer at least.
My first tattoo will forever be "I wanna contribute to the chaos"
Not a bad guy, overall, we're still friends and he is the person who introduced me to a lot of music that I love.
But there are also bands that I avoided listening to for years because I only knew them through the context of hearing about how deep and sad they were at three in the morning.
That's gross! Fuck off!
Which is something that’s been done with clumsier tools since digital (and even analog) recording has existed. It’s just more effective and efficient with good software.
It also mentioned the same software was used on the recordings that Peter Jackson used for his documentary to get clearer, more usable audio from the room recordings.
And they didn't.
So he died.
It may technically be the same technology but I don't think taking some rough demos John Lennon did decades ago and using it as the basis of a new song is anything but ghastly where ever its done.
Well yeah, turning old demos into new songs is a different discussion though. They've been doing that since the mid 90s at least (with "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love"). Personally, as far as that goes, if his family is cool with it, and it's just audio that he had already recorded, I don't have a huge problem with it, but I can understand why it would squick some people out. And that's perfectly fair.
Just pointing out that it's a very different beast than using "AI" to create faked recordings based on voice samples.
And they didn't.
So he died.
So he should release that before whatever this thing is.
Makes me think about how Static-X is still touring and how they have their new singer (I believe it's Edsel Dope) dress as a robot zombie Wayne Static. I think it's pretty fucked up and gross, regardless of the band saying Wayne's family is okay with it!