"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
It seems like a few people here share that opinion. It's still insane.
It's only insane because you don't agree with it.
Well I guess that's true with anything. But in this case, it's a video game system. You are morally against a company that makes video game hardware and software. Not a company that uses aborted babies as a substitute for glue, or a business that uses slave labor.
That's why I don't buy Nestle products. I've read numerous places that they're a big part of the still prevalent slave trade in Africa.
O_o
Big companies, like Nestle, purchase their cocoa on international exchanges where cocoa from Ivory Coast is mixed with cocoa from other countries and loses its identity as a slave-made product. Anti Slavery International says, "Because of the way the chocolate industry buys its cocoa it is not possible to ensure that slave or other forms of illegal exploitation have not been used in its production." It says companies should purchase direct from plantations so they can ensure international labour standards are met. If they continue to buy their cocoa via the exchange or other middlemen, they should work with cocoa-producing countries such as Ivory Coast to ensure the labour standards are enforced.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
Wow. Are you fucking serious?
The goat thing put me off on buying any Sony products for a good long time. It isn't outside of the realm of possibility that one of the many stupid fucking attempts at marketing Sony has pulled in the last year would offend someone.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
Wow. Are you fucking serious?
The goat thing put me off on buying any Sony products for a good long time. It isn't outside of the realm of possibility that one of the many stupid fucking attempts at marketing Sony has pulled in the last year would offend someone.
The PSP ads were atrocious and racist. There was also that CD copy protection scandal. I will never forget about Lik-Sang.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
Wow. Are you fucking serious?
The goat thing put me off on buying any Sony products for a good long time. It isn't outside of the realm of possibility that one of the many stupid fucking attempts at marketing Sony has pulled in the last year would offend someone.
The PSP ads were atrocious and racist. There was also that CD copy protection scandal. I will never forget about Lik-Sang.
FFS they weren't racist. One ad showed the white chick in the dominant position and another showed the black chick in the dominant position. Mind telling me what's racist about that? The only people I remember being offended were Americans and funnily enough, they were only used in Europe.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
Wow. Are you fucking serious?
The goat thing put me off on buying any Sony products for a good long time. It isn't outside of the realm of possibility that one of the many stupid fucking attempts at marketing Sony has pulled in the last year would offend someone.
The PSP ads were atrocious and racist. There was also that CD copy protection scandal. I will never forget about Lik-Sang.
I miss Lik-Sang just as much as the next person. I also found the goat thing to be pretty distasteful. I even wrote an article on the offensive white PSP ads.
I have a personal stake against Sony because I don't want them to succeed with their "make everything really god damn expensive" business strategy. It sets a bad precedent. Fortunately, the solution fits right in line with what I would do even if I did like them, which is not buy their $600 console. I'll buy it when it's cheap, which I think sends the message well enough.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
Wow. Are you fucking serious?
The goat thing put me off on buying any Sony products for a good long time. It isn't outside of the realm of possibility that one of the many stupid fucking attempts at marketing Sony has pulled in the last year would offend someone.
The PSP ads were atrocious and racist. There was also that CD copy protection scandal. I will never forget about Lik-Sang.
I miss Lik-Sang just as much as the next person. I also found the goat thing to be pretty distasteful. I even wrote an article on the offensive white PSP ads.
That shits not keeping me from good games though.
Am I the only person that thought the goat thing was a great idea, in part because it was so out there?
Aside from some of the last few posts, this is the most retarded thread I have ever read here on PA. Some of you people are way too emotionally invested in all of this.
You haven't been in D&D for the last hour.
Console selection is the geek equivalent of picking a sports team. Most people favor one over the others, and then root for it with all their might. If it does well, hooray! I win! The primary difference is unlike sports teams, every five years or so you get to pick a new side if you want.
The Wii is kinda like the English Premiership's Aston Villa- new philosophy in the front office, fans excited, but expect results, unlike in previous years when they just wanted to avoid relegation.
The Xbox 360 is kinda like the Atlanta Braves- they're competent, they'll get to the playoffs, but whether they win it all is another matter entirely.
The PS3 is kinda like the Chicago Bulls, post-Jordan- they win every year, anyone not aligned with them hates them, and when they crash and burn, everyone goes ooh and aah and ha ha ha.
Gosling on
I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
Honestly, the PS3 is the first video game system that my values and ethics forbid me to buy. I think that's why I'm so disappointed in how Sony's handled this whole thing.
It's bad when a company screws up so much, personal morals come into play. That's not right.
It seems like a few people here share that opinion. It's still insane.
It's only insane because you don't agree with it.
Well I guess that's true with anything. But in this case, it's a video game system. You are morally against a company that makes video game hardware and software. Not a company that uses aborted babies as a substitute for glue, or a business that uses slave labor.
That's why I don't buy Nestle products. I've read numerous places that they're a big part of the still prevalent slave trade in Africa.
O_o
Big companies, like Nestle, purchase their cocoa on international exchanges where cocoa from Ivory Coast is mixed with cocoa from other countries and loses its identity as a slave-made product. Anti Slavery International says, "Because of the way the chocolate industry buys its cocoa it is not possible to ensure that slave or other forms of illegal exploitation have not been used in its production." It says companies should purchase direct from plantations so they can ensure international labour standards are met. If they continue to buy their cocoa via the exchange or other middlemen, they should work with cocoa-producing countries such as Ivory Coast to ensure the labour standards are enforced.
Not just Nestle either; they implicate Mars and Cadbury as well. Big deal in the Isles.
Nestle is also know for going into 3rd world countries, securing obscene amounts of money in foreign aid to "provide clean water" then build a water processing plant with that money, refuse to provide any irrigation to the people in that country, bottle all the water they process, then sell the bottled water to the richest people in that country which has already been paid for by foreign aid.
Talk about an awkward evening. I just had a goat cheese pizza while watching Pirates of the Caribbean Blu-ray on my PS3 and then I polished it up with a Nestle chocolate bar.
Talk about an awkward evening. I just had a goat cheese pizza while watching Pirates of the Caribbean Blu-ray on my PS3 and then I polished it up with a Nestle chocolate bar.
Why are people taking the stance with the idea that technology hardware and software isn't advancing or that it should settle.
I'm not offended that the PS3 is expensive. Maybe not universally so, but I can't warrant spending $600 on a console.
What pisses me off a little bit is that I can't buy a PS3 without also buying a Blu-Ray player. This, in and of itself, wouldn't be so bad if Blu-Ray had already won the format war or if Blu-Ray actually added anything to games. Maybe it has, but everything I've seen that the PS3 does well (mostly graphics, but I've only played some MotorStorm at a friend's house) is totally unrelated to disc capacity. These games could be played on DVD, and it would make the console cheaper to purchase. This must have occurred to Sony's console division, but Sony doesn't just make consoles, and they decided to push their video format on gamers.
I don't want an expensive new movie player. I want a new video game console, and until Blu-Ray does adds something substantial to the game-playing experience it will rub me the wrong way that I can't buy a PS3 without supporting a next-gen movie format that I think is still too expensive.
Personally, I'd have rather seen games on multiple DVDs with forced installs. Throw a huge HDD in there, and let me uninstall games without losing my save. Anything to keep me from spending the better part of $1,000 on a toy.
Why are people taking the stance with the idea that technology hardware and software isn't advancing or that it should settle.
I'm not offended that the PS3 is expensive. Maybe not universally so, but I can't warrant spending $600 on a console.
What pisses me off a little bit is that I can't buy a PS3 without also buying a Blu-Ray player. This, in and of itself, wouldn't be so bad if Blu-Ray had already won the format war or if Blu-Ray actually added anything to games. Maybe it has, but everything I've seen that the PS3 does well (mostly graphics, but I've only played some MotorStorm at a friend's house) is totally unrelated to disc capacity. These games could be played on DVD, and it would make the console cheaper to purchase. This must have occurred to Sony's console division, but Sony doesn't just make consoles, and they decided to push their video format on gamers.
I don't want an expensive new movie player. I want a new video game console, and until Blu-Ray does adds something substantial to the game-playing experience it will rub me the wrong way that I can't buy a PS3 without supporting a next-gen movie format that I think is still too expensive.
Personally, I'd have rather seen games on multiple DVDs with forced installs. Throw a huge HDD in there, and let me uninstall games without losing my save. Anything to keep me from spending the better part of $1,000 on a toy.
It's thinking ahead. No, no games thus far have taken advantage of the space Blueray provides yet. But there are already games in the works that do {such as MGS4}. And you may feel that it isn't worth 600 bucks, or you may feel $600 is just too much for a system, but there are plenty of people that want what the PS3 can do. People don't need to settle, specially if you have the income, or learned the concept of "save your money for something you want". Just because the 360, Wii, and PS3 are all game systems doesn't mean that one can be substituted, as they all have their own advantages.
It's fine that you don't want a PS3 now. I don't want one until later this year when a lot of good games are being released for it. But to actually get upset over a system is damn silly, no matter how much it cost or how much you feel it didn't need so and so feature.
Neva on
SC2 Beta: Neva.ling
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
It's thinking ahead. No, no games thus far have taken advantage of the space Blueray provides yet. But there are already games in the works that do {such as MGS4}.
From what I've heard, MGS4 is using the BluRay disc for recording massive amounts of uncompressed ambient audio, and for uncompressed video.
Sure, that's nice, but I'd prefer just to have compressed audio and video, and have the game fit on a DVD.
It's thinking ahead. No, no games thus far have taken advantage of the space Blueray provides yet. But there are already games in the works that do {such as MGS4}.
From what I've heard, MGS4 is using the BluRay disc for recording massive amounts of uncompressed ambient audio, and for uncompressed video.
Sure, that's nice, but I'd prefer just to have compressed audio and video, and have the game fit on a DVD.
Exactly. This "double the storage space = double the game!" stuff is pure fantasy. It hinges on the assumption that the space on a disk is a limiting factor in the scope of games, when in reality it's just a matter of time and money. The cost of creating content has not changed, so all this extra space on the disk is just used for relatively trivial stuff like reduced compression(which has its own downsides, like more data needing to be transferred off the disk). I think it's unlikely that the DVD format will be a significant bottleneck by the end of this gen.
It seems more like people have taken personal offense that it isn't in their price range. On the internet, anyways.
If by 'out of my price range' you mean 'stuffed full of useless crap I still have to pay for', then yeah I suppose it is. The fact that I have $600 doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is currently a full-on rip off if you don't want or need a BluRay player.
Nah, they're fucking doomed. We've already come to that conclusion.
Yawn. Have fun with this one guys.
Aww c'mon. Lighten up a bit, its not so bad.
I'm so sick and tired of this Sony optimism. It's six months into the console life cycle and they haven't even cured cancer yet. What a bloody waste.
It's not like I'm enjoying the system, with the new multimedia streaming capabilities or the upscaled PS2 games. Motorstorm getting new modes and updates for free certainly didn't help. Blu-ray movies definitely don't do anything for me.
They're fucking doomed. Let's just leave it at that and let the carcass rot.
So... how'd I do?
It's the damndest thing.
When you're trying to sound like a tool, I get this weird feedback noise coming from my speakers.
Nah, they're fucking doomed. We've already come to that conclusion.
Yawn. Have fun with this one guys.
Aww c'mon. Lighten up a bit, its not so bad.
I'm so sick and tired of this Sony optimism. It's six months into the console life cycle and they haven't even cured cancer yet. What a bloody waste.
It's not like I'm enjoying the system, with the new multimedia streaming capabilities or the upscaled PS2 games. Motorstorm getting new modes and updates for free certainly didn't help. Blu-ray movies definitely don't do anything for me.
They're fucking doomed. Let's just leave it at that and let the carcass rot.
So... how'd I do?
It's the damndest thing.
When you're trying to sound like a tool, I get this weird feedback noise coming from my speakers.
Is it the same noise as people who read something, mix it up in their minds so it says something else, then reply to it in half assed sarcasium and opinions turned facts?
Neva on
SC2 Beta: Neva.ling
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
Nah, they're fucking doomed. We've already come to that conclusion.
Yawn. Have fun with this one guys.
Aww c'mon. Lighten up a bit, its not so bad.
I'm so sick and tired of this Sony optimism. It's six months into the console life cycle and they haven't even cured cancer yet. What a bloody waste.
It's not like I'm enjoying the system, with the new multimedia streaming capabilities or the upscaled PS2 games. Motorstorm getting new modes and updates for free certainly didn't help. Blu-ray movies definitely don't do anything for me.
They're fucking doomed. Let's just leave it at that and let the carcass rot.
So... how'd I do?
It's the damndest thing.
When you're trying to sound like a tool, I get this weird feedback noise coming from my speakers.
Is it the same noise as people who read something, mix it up in their minds so it says something else, then reply to it in half assed sarcasium and opinions turned facts?
Are you honestly confused here? Threepio purposely sounded like a tool, trying to...you know what? Nevermind.
It's thinking ahead. No, no games thus far have taken advantage of the space Blueray provides yet. But there are already games in the works that do {such as MGS4}.
From what I've heard, MGS4 is using the BluRay disc for recording massive amounts of uncompressed ambient audio, and for uncompressed video.
Sure, that's nice, but I'd prefer just to have compressed audio and video, and have the game fit on a DVD.
For what feels like the twentieth time, no. MGS4 has its cutscenes rendered in real-time. The closest thing to a "video" in MGS4 will be the opening movie and perhaps some extras thrown into the game. That's it.
Talking about how they'll use the disc is ridiculous at this point. He's mentioned 7.1 audio and high-res textures but that's it. How people suddenly think they're going to have uncompressed audio and video is beyond me. I guess people are going to start calling him a lazy developer next.
It's thinking ahead. No, no games thus far have taken advantage of the space Blueray provides yet. But there are already games in the works that do {such as MGS4}.
From what I've heard, MGS4 is using the BluRay disc for recording massive amounts of uncompressed ambient audio, and for uncompressed video.
Sure, that's nice, but I'd prefer just to have compressed audio and video, and have the game fit on a DVD.
Exactly. This "double the storage space = double the game!" stuff is pure fantasy. It hinges on the assumption that the space on a disk is a limiting factor in the scope of games, when in reality it's just a matter of time and money. The cost of creating content has not changed, so all this extra space on the disk is just used for relatively trivial stuff like reduced compression(which has its own downsides, like more data needing to be transferred off the disk). I think it's unlikely that the DVD format will be a significant bottleneck by the end of this gen.
I think it will and I think that the next gears of war (for example) will span multiple discs.
The guy that made resistence (I think) made this point. Gears looks flat out spectacular and he was right. It looks great because there is a shitload of high resolution textures, to be honest I don't know how much space is left on the Gears DVD but I'll take a guess and say not too much. Textures are becoming one of the greater space fillers on DVD's. Back in CD days it was FMV and audio, nowdays FMV isn't really needed due to graphic capabilities and audio compression tools are pretty flash nowdays. Textures cover basically everything and unless you want to see the same textures again and again it's going to take up space.
You then need to figure out whether you don't mind changing a disc or not.
I just wish Sony would stop advertising the PS3 as the ONLY backwards compatable Next Gen system. Yeah, 360 compatability is more limited that PS3 is, (which is ALSO Somewhat limited foe the record), but it is still there. Also the Wii will play EVEREY SINGLE Gamecube game, and works with every game cube perifferal, with the exception of things that plugged into the bottom. So, yeah, I guess I can't lan two Wiini together for some 8 player Mario Kart, but I can't plug a guitar into the PS3 AT ALL.
Seriously, they can exagerate in their marketting all they like, but the outright lying needs to stop.
I just wish Sony would stop advertising the PS3 as the ONLY backwards compatable Next Gen system.
I hope they're not marketing it like that in Europe (or Australia).
Actually, I haven't seen much marketing for it at all here in Australia, and what I've seen has played-down its game-playing features in favour of its media functionality.
More space is better. Not just trivially better, but better over-all. I can't get too technical, for I would sound dumb because of it, but there are many things that space can make better in a game. Texture sizes are increasing in games, and compression of textures is never a good thing. More space means better quality audio, more audio can be put on. They could potentially put in more levels, more content, etc. There's more things also, but they're technical, and I would sound retarded trying to explain them.
Of course, multiple DVD's can do the same thing, really.
More space is better. Not just trivially better, but better over-all. I can't get too technical, for I would sound dumb because of it, but there are many things that space can make better in a game. Texture sizes are increasing in games, and compression of textures is never a good thing. More space means better quality audio, more audio can be put on. They could potentially put in more levels, more content, etc. There's more things also, but they're technical, and I would sound retarded trying to explain them.
Of course, multiple DVD's can do the same thing, really.
But do we NEED those things? Space is ultimately irelevant. No one decided to buy a PS2 based on the fact that, with a Gamecube they'd have to deal with swithing a disc during RE4
More space is better. Not just trivially better, but better over-all. I can't get too technical, for I would sound dumb because of it, but there are many things that space can make better in a game. Texture sizes are increasing in games, and compression of textures is never a good thing. More space means better quality audio, more audio can be put on. They could potentially put in more levels, more content, etc. There's more things also, but they're technical, and I would sound retarded trying to explain them.
Of course, multiple DVD's can do the same thing, really.
But do we NEED those things? Space is ultimately irelevant. No one decided to buy a PS2 based on the fact that, with a Gamecube they'd have to deal with swithing a disc during RE4
Lol. You're right. Infact, why not just have games run on CDs? I mean, we can do everything on a CD that we can on a DVD, we'll just have to use CDs.
Or Floppy's.
Sorry, but really now. I personally don't want a blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but the added space is a good thing. You really shouldn't talk about need when talking about completely luxury items. More space = better for developers. You should want developers to have more breathing room.
Texture sizes are increasing in games, and compression of textures is never a good thing.
That's not necessarily true. With a good algorithm, the time taken to load and decompress a compressed texture often rivals or is less than the time taken to load an uncompressed version of the same texture. Optical read speed is usually at a premium.
More space is better. Not just trivially better, but better over-all. I can't get too technical, for I would sound dumb because of it, but there are many things that space can make better in a game. Texture sizes are increasing in games, and compression of textures is never a good thing. More space means better quality audio, more audio can be put on. They could potentially put in more levels, more content, etc. There's more things also, but they're technical, and I would sound retarded trying to explain them.
Of course, multiple DVD's can do the same thing, really.
But do we NEED those things? Space is ultimately irelevant. No one decided to buy a PS2 based on the fact that, with a Gamecube they'd have to deal with swithing a disc during RE4
Lol. You're right. Infact, why not just have games run on CDs? I mean, we can do everything on a CD that we can on a DVD, we'll just have to use CDs.
Or Floppy's.
Sorry, but really now. I personally don't want a blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but the added space is a good thing. You really shouldn't talk about need when talking about completely luxury items. More space = better for developers. You should want developers to have more breathing room.
I never said that more space was a bad thing, but just because its not a bad thing doesn't mean its a good thing. I mean, the Gamecube was the only system that had a bongo attatchment, and that GBA had a card raeder. Both of those allowed developers more options, but even games originally announced for the bongos, such as Odama, ended up coming out without it.
More storage space has its uses. So does rumble. Personally, I prefer rumble over not having to change discs. I just don't see THAT level of extra disc space as being useful.
Sorry, but really now. I personally don't want a blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but the added space is a good thing. You really shouldn't talk about need when talking about completely luxury items. More space = better for developers. You should want developers to have more breathing room.
I'm sure that most developers would have preferred more RAM or a better GPU rather than the extra space. Most consumers would probably have preferred a lower price point.
The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and 256MB of GPU RAM, so it's certainly not going to be loading absolutely massive files into memory.
The extra space is nice, but it's hardly a "big ticket" item for most developers or consumers. PC games are doing just fine with the DVD format, and they have been doing the "HD" thing for years.
Sorry, but really now. I personally don't want a blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but the added space is a good thing. You really shouldn't talk about need when talking about completely luxury items. More space = better for developers. You should want developers to have more breathing room.
I'm sure that most developers would have preferred more RAM or a better GPU rather than the extra space. Most consumers would probably have preferred a lower price point.
The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and 256MB of GPU RAM, so it's certainly not going to be loading absolutely massive files into memory.
The extra space is nice, but it's hardly a "big ticket" item for most developers or consumers. PC games are doing just fine with the DVD format, and they have been doing the "HD" thing for years.
And if I recall correctly, the blu-ray drive only reads at something like 2x. The oblivion guys, again if what I heard was true, just put most of the content on there twice, to make the game load a little faster.
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http://www.organicconsumers.org/Starbucks/chocolate.cfm
Not just Nestle either; they implicate Mars and Cadbury as well. Big deal in the Isles.
The goat thing put me off on buying any Sony products for a good long time. It isn't outside of the realm of possibility that one of the many stupid fucking attempts at marketing Sony has pulled in the last year would offend someone.
FFS they weren't racist. One ad showed the white chick in the dominant position and another showed the black chick in the dominant position. Mind telling me what's racist about that? The only people I remember being offended were Americans and funnily enough, they were only used in Europe.
I miss Lik-Sang just as much as the next person. I also found the goat thing to be pretty distasteful. I even wrote an article on the offensive white PSP ads.
That shits not keeping me from good games though.
Am I the only person that thought the goat thing was a great idea, in part because it was so out there?
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Console selection is the geek equivalent of picking a sports team. Most people favor one over the others, and then root for it with all their might. If it does well, hooray! I win! The primary difference is unlike sports teams, every five years or so you get to pick a new side if you want.
The Wii is kinda like the English Premiership's Aston Villa- new philosophy in the front office, fans excited, but expect results, unlike in previous years when they just wanted to avoid relegation.
The Xbox 360 is kinda like the Atlanta Braves- they're competent, they'll get to the playoffs, but whether they win it all is another matter entirely.
The PS3 is kinda like the Chicago Bulls, post-Jordan- they win every year, anyone not aligned with them hates them, and when they crash and burn, everyone goes ooh and aah and ha ha ha.
http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=5015
http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=3794
There is also an ad in France that implied a woman was cheating on her husband with the controller buttons. They had hair on them.
The buttons were flesh colored and very sweaty.
There is also this:
NSFW
http://www.thehumorarchives.com/joke/French_PlayStation_Ad
And this:
http://www.destructoid.com/head-french-ps2-ad-that-s-just-odd-26284.phtml
Nestle is also know for going into 3rd world countries, securing obscene amounts of money in foreign aid to "provide clean water" then build a water processing plant with that money, refuse to provide any irrigation to the people in that country, bottle all the water they process, then sell the bottled water to the richest people in that country which has already been paid for by foreign aid.
Those poor goats.
I'm not offended that the PS3 is expensive. Maybe not universally so, but I can't warrant spending $600 on a console.
What pisses me off a little bit is that I can't buy a PS3 without also buying a Blu-Ray player. This, in and of itself, wouldn't be so bad if Blu-Ray had already won the format war or if Blu-Ray actually added anything to games. Maybe it has, but everything I've seen that the PS3 does well (mostly graphics, but I've only played some MotorStorm at a friend's house) is totally unrelated to disc capacity. These games could be played on DVD, and it would make the console cheaper to purchase. This must have occurred to Sony's console division, but Sony doesn't just make consoles, and they decided to push their video format on gamers.
I don't want an expensive new movie player. I want a new video game console, and until Blu-Ray does adds something substantial to the game-playing experience it will rub me the wrong way that I can't buy a PS3 without supporting a next-gen movie format that I think is still too expensive.
Personally, I'd have rather seen games on multiple DVDs with forced installs. Throw a huge HDD in there, and let me uninstall games without losing my save. Anything to keep me from spending the better part of $1,000 on a toy.
It's thinking ahead. No, no games thus far have taken advantage of the space Blueray provides yet. But there are already games in the works that do {such as MGS4}. And you may feel that it isn't worth 600 bucks, or you may feel $600 is just too much for a system, but there are plenty of people that want what the PS3 can do. People don't need to settle, specially if you have the income, or learned the concept of "save your money for something you want". Just because the 360, Wii, and PS3 are all game systems doesn't mean that one can be substituted, as they all have their own advantages.
It's fine that you don't want a PS3 now. I don't want one until later this year when a lot of good games are being released for it. But to actually get upset over a system is damn silly, no matter how much it cost or how much you feel it didn't need so and so feature.
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From what I've heard, MGS4 is using the BluRay disc for recording massive amounts of uncompressed ambient audio, and for uncompressed video.
Sure, that's nice, but I'd prefer just to have compressed audio and video, and have the game fit on a DVD.
Exactly. This "double the storage space = double the game!" stuff is pure fantasy. It hinges on the assumption that the space on a disk is a limiting factor in the scope of games, when in reality it's just a matter of time and money. The cost of creating content has not changed, so all this extra space on the disk is just used for relatively trivial stuff like reduced compression(which has its own downsides, like more data needing to be transferred off the disk). I think it's unlikely that the DVD format will be a significant bottleneck by the end of this gen.
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No no. They advertised that they will free a slave if you buy a specially marked nestle product.
It's the damndest thing.
When you're trying to sound like a tool, I get this weird feedback noise coming from my speakers.
Is it the same noise as people who read something, mix it up in their minds so it says something else, then reply to it in half assed sarcasium and opinions turned facts?
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Are you honestly confused here? Threepio purposely sounded like a tool, trying to...you know what? Nevermind.
For what feels like the twentieth time, no. MGS4 has its cutscenes rendered in real-time. The closest thing to a "video" in MGS4 will be the opening movie and perhaps some extras thrown into the game. That's it.
Talking about how they'll use the disc is ridiculous at this point. He's mentioned 7.1 audio and high-res textures but that's it. How people suddenly think they're going to have uncompressed audio and video is beyond me. I guess people are going to start calling him a lazy developer next.
I think it will and I think that the next gears of war (for example) will span multiple discs.
The guy that made resistence (I think) made this point. Gears looks flat out spectacular and he was right. It looks great because there is a shitload of high resolution textures, to be honest I don't know how much space is left on the Gears DVD but I'll take a guess and say not too much. Textures are becoming one of the greater space fillers on DVD's. Back in CD days it was FMV and audio, nowdays FMV isn't really needed due to graphic capabilities and audio compression tools are pretty flash nowdays. Textures cover basically everything and unless you want to see the same textures again and again it's going to take up space.
You then need to figure out whether you don't mind changing a disc or not.
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Seriously, they can exagerate in their marketting all they like, but the outright lying needs to stop.
I hope they're not marketing it like that in Europe (or Australia).
Actually, I haven't seen much marketing for it at all here in Australia, and what I've seen has played-down its game-playing features in favour of its media functionality.
More space is better. Not just trivially better, but better over-all. I can't get too technical, for I would sound dumb because of it, but there are many things that space can make better in a game. Texture sizes are increasing in games, and compression of textures is never a good thing. More space means better quality audio, more audio can be put on. They could potentially put in more levels, more content, etc. There's more things also, but they're technical, and I would sound retarded trying to explain them.
Of course, multiple DVD's can do the same thing, really.
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But do we NEED those things? Space is ultimately irelevant. No one decided to buy a PS2 based on the fact that, with a Gamecube they'd have to deal with swithing a disc during RE4
Lol. You're right. Infact, why not just have games run on CDs? I mean, we can do everything on a CD that we can on a DVD, we'll just have to use CDs.
Or Floppy's.
Sorry, but really now. I personally don't want a blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but the added space is a good thing. You really shouldn't talk about need when talking about completely luxury items. More space = better for developers. You should want developers to have more breathing room.
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That's not necessarily true. With a good algorithm, the time taken to load and decompress a compressed texture often rivals or is less than the time taken to load an uncompressed version of the same texture. Optical read speed is usually at a premium.
I never said that more space was a bad thing, but just because its not a bad thing doesn't mean its a good thing. I mean, the Gamecube was the only system that had a bongo attatchment, and that GBA had a card raeder. Both of those allowed developers more options, but even games originally announced for the bongos, such as Odama, ended up coming out without it.
More storage space has its uses. So does rumble. Personally, I prefer rumble over not having to change discs. I just don't see THAT level of extra disc space as being useful.
I'm sure that most developers would have preferred more RAM or a better GPU rather than the extra space. Most consumers would probably have preferred a lower price point.
The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and 256MB of GPU RAM, so it's certainly not going to be loading absolutely massive files into memory.
The extra space is nice, but it's hardly a "big ticket" item for most developers or consumers. PC games are doing just fine with the DVD format, and they have been doing the "HD" thing for years.
And if I recall correctly, the blu-ray drive only reads at something like 2x. The oblivion guys, again if what I heard was true, just put most of the content on there twice, to make the game load a little faster.
I don't like to cross post but the conversations are really so tied into the same topic. Anyway, there's some hilarious Blu-ray propaganda there.
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