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Ok the future Mrs Arbiter and i agreed to finally get tattoos.
I know for the most part what I want to get, a styilized roaring wolfs head. I wanted to get some greek text below it. there has always been two greek phrases that have ment a lot to me.
Molwn Labe: Translated "Come and Get Them" made popular by a recent movie 300, and a symbol of defiance of authourity I have alyeas kept since I was 13.
Sic Semper Tyranus: Translated "Never to Tryants" a Motto I had to myself when growing up with an abusive mother.
Again both are significant to me for differing reasons, I considered one on top and the other below, but they do not exactly mesh well, and take away from the Wolfs head.
Me, if I was getting a tattoo with a good woman, would get a shared piece.
That is, one that would span both bodies.
Foolish I know what with the divorce rates these days, but I'm optimistic like that.
But in general if there's something you want and you're sure about it then do it. I might hold off on the phrases until you had the wolf tattoo for a while. They can always add them in after.
I like 'sic semper tyrannis' as well. If you're set on a wolf's head, I'd recommend chasing down a great number of them first to find the one you want. Sometimes they are awesome, sometimes not so much.
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I kinda like the "sic semper tyranus" as well if only because it will remind you that you have survived your past. (i had an abusive step-mother while growing up) Good luck to the both of ya!
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Ok the future Mrs Arbiter and i agreed to finally get tattoos.
I know for the most part what I want to get, a styilized roaring wolfs head. I wanted to get some greek text below it. there has always been two greek phrases that have ment a lot to me.
Molwn Labe: Translated "Come and Get Them" made popular by a recent movie 300, and a symbol of defiance of authourity I have alyeas kept since I was 13.
Sic Semper Tyranus: Translated "Never to Tryants" a Motto I had to myself when growing up with an abusive mother.
Again both are significant to me for differing reasons, I considered one on top and the other below, but they do not exactly mesh well, and take away from the Wolfs head.
opinions?
My opinion is that you should go for the wolf's head with no text at all. That way it's more symbolic with personal meaning--and you won't have to worry about the translation of a language you don't understand or speak, which is always a bit sketchy.
Sic Semper Tyrannis -- watch the spelling there -- is actually Latin, not Greek, and means "Thus always to tyrants" (the "thus" is referring to death)
Keep in mind that the "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ" in Greek is phrased in a way that the person saying is already 100% certain that they will lose... so I'm not sure if that's exactly the defiance you're going for. It's still pretty good, though. In English, "come and take them" sounds kind of like there might be a slim chance in the battle, but that's not what the phrase is about.
Also, most people seeing Sic Semper Tyrannis will immediately have their minds jump to good ol' John Wilkes Booth and assume that you're a redneck Confederate-supporting hick or something. Just sayin'.
Either phrase will be just fine because you personally like them. Just make sure your tattoo is something you are going to like. You have headed in the right direction in my opinion by making the design yourself. That is what I did with my tattoo and it makes it so much better.
Even if you were married for the next 60 years I would advise against the two of you getting joint piece done.
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Of the two phrases I personally prefer "Sic semper tyrannis."
That is, one that would span both bodies.
Foolish I know what with the divorce rates these days, but I'm optimistic like that.
But in general if there's something you want and you're sure about it then do it. I might hold off on the phrases until you had the wolf tattoo for a while. They can always add them in after.
As far as I know that's not Greek......
I would pick "Molwn Labe", because the other one gives me the giggles.
pannosa est pro vita
So make sure you're 100% happy with the tattoo.
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My opinion is that you should go for the wolf's head with no text at all. That way it's more symbolic with personal meaning--and you won't have to worry about the translation of a language you don't understand or speak, which is always a bit sketchy.
Sic Semper Tyrannis -- watch the spelling there -- is actually Latin, not Greek, and means "Thus always to tyrants" (the "thus" is referring to death)
"Come and take them." See the Wikipedia link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe#Grammar
Keep in mind that the "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ" in Greek is phrased in a way that the person saying is already 100% certain that they will lose... so I'm not sure if that's exactly the defiance you're going for. It's still pretty good, though. In English, "come and take them" sounds kind of like there might be a slim chance in the battle, but that's not what the phrase is about.
Even if you were married for the next 60 years I would advise against the two of you getting joint piece done.