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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    I tried reading vegance. I couldn't get past the first issue

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    take the thing where latina characters say every second word in spanish and throw it in the garbage forever

    people don't do that! i've never heard anyone do that! get like, exactly one spanish speaking friend and listen to how they actually use the language

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    marvel's millenial stuff is weird because they can't actually talk about politics

    it's all twitter and asymmetrical haircuts but somehow nobody ever gets around to organising the working class and overthrowing the bourgeoisie. which is honestly a pretty significant chunk of what the young people i know are talking about

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    The Hulk has some class consciousness going on right now, funnily enough

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 20
    The Hulk has some class consciousness going on right now, funnily enough

    The Hulk is the only Marvel book I know even approaching doing that.

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  • JedocJedoc Take a look. It's in a book. It was always in a book, you fool.Registered User regular
    The Hulk has some class consciousness going on right now, funnily enough

    Hah, I bet he does.

    "It's clobberin' time for the owning class!"

    Am I right, comrades? Eh?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    The Hulk has some class consciousness going on right now, funnily enough

    Hah, I bet he does.

    "It's clobberin' time for the owning class!"

    Am I right, comrades? Eh?

    That's Thing, not Hulk.

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  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
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    marvel's millenial stuff is weird because they can't actually talk about politics

    it's all twitter and asymmetrical haircuts but somehow nobody ever gets around to organising the working class and overthrowing the bourgeoisie. which is honestly a pretty significant chunk of what the young people i know are talking about

    Gonna just lift these from a @BlankZoe post from back in November
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  • sarukunsarukun Mr. Bulldopps Get SchwiftyRegistered User regular
    take the thing where latina characters say every second word in spanish and throw it in the garbage forever

    people don't do that! i've never heard anyone do that! get like, exactly one spanish speaking friend and listen to how they actually use the language

    We speak Spanglish sometimes but usually only with each other, and not with other people who don't speak Spanish.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    I've seen the occasional phrase/sentence in another language, and there's the random times when you just need the very, very specific context of a specific word, even if you're not using that word's language at the moment. That second one is usually swears

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    It's because they can't write down the Latin accent like they can for the Southern accent or the hillbilly drawl, so they resort to sprinkling a bit of Spanish over everything Latinxs say.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I think it's because they don't know any actual latinx people and think they talk like half-lingual caricatures

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    marvel's millenial stuff is weird because they can't actually talk about politics

    it's all twitter and asymmetrical haircuts but somehow nobody ever gets around to organising the working class and overthrowing the bourgeoisie. which is honestly a pretty significant chunk of what the young people i know are talking about

    Gonna just lift these from a @BlankZoe post from back in November
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    This actually was one of my problems with the Uncanny X-Men arc that lead into Age of X-Man, in that...I couldn't really see what Nate Grey was doing wrong, in the large scale? He was using his absurd powers to change the world for the better, recreating environments, fixing the atmosphere, turning offshore oil plants into nature preserves, taking away weapons from oppressors so the abused could rise up and stop them, etc. And the X-Men's response was to argue that no, he couldn't shake up the status quo, despite how bad it was. And not give him a focus for his powers to help things, but instead just fight him. It was...incredibly frustrating.

  • Devlin_DragonusDevlin_Dragonus Gorgeous Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    marvel's millenial stuff is weird because they can't actually talk about politics

    it's all twitter and asymmetrical haircuts but somehow nobody ever gets around to organising the working class and overthrowing the bourgeoisie. which is honestly a pretty significant chunk of what the young people i know are talking about

    Gonna just lift these from a @BlankZoe post from back in November
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    This actually was one of my problems with the Uncanny X-Men arc that lead into Age of X-Man, in that...I couldn't really see what Nate Grey was doing wrong, in the large scale? He was using his absurd powers to change the world for the better, recreating environments, fixing the atmosphere, turning offshore oil plants into nature preserves, taking away weapons from oppressors so the abused could rise up and stop them, etc. And the X-Men's response was to argue that no, he couldn't shake up the status quo, despite how bad it was. And not give him a focus for his powers to help things, but instead just fight him. It was...incredibly frustrating.

    I havent read the X-Man arc, but this sounds a lot like the overall first two arcs in Cable & Deadpool series where Cable was able to fully tap into his tk and he basically did the same thing. Sorta.

    Hell they threw silver surfer at him at one point.

    I got nothing for you now. Try again later.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    As I recall the issue with Age of X-Man was that the price of his utopian world was no love

    Which is hacky as shit but it was pretty thoroughly explored and X-Tremists in particular showed how a world without love and intimacy also means a world without anyone queer in it and peace ain't worth living in a closet

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    As I recall the issue with Age of X-Man was that the price of his utopian world was no love

    Which is hacky as shit but it was pretty thoroughly explored and X-Tremists in particular showed how a world without love and intimacy also means a world without anyone queer in it and peace ain't worth living in a closet

    I mean, there was also the "and oh yeah, this is a police state" stuff, but yeah.

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    take the thing where latina characters say every second word in spanish and throw it in the garbage forever

    people don't do that! i've never heard anyone do that! get like, exactly one spanish speaking friend and listen to how they actually use the language

    Not just latina characters, every foreign character gets this (depending on writer it gets better or worse, but the standard is still pretty terrible). Storm was just lucky that Claremont knew no Swahili words.

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    ok now i'm thinking about if all storm's dialogue was like "yes, bwana xavier, your body may be weak but your moyo is that of a simba" and cracking myself up

    it would be super racist! much as, it is super racist to do it with latina people

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    It seems to me that Claremont did it a lot more in the early years of his run than later on, but yeah, Nightcrawler and Colossus were constantly dropping in German or Russian words. Plus Claremont loved writing the phonetic accents for all the Scottish, Irish, and Southern characters he brought in.

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    It seems to me that Claremont did it a lot more in the early years of his run than later on, but yeah, Nightcrawler and Colossus were constantly dropping in German or Russian words. Plus Claremont loved writing the phonetic accents for all the Scottish, Irish, and Southern characters he brought in.

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  • sarukunsarukun Mr. Bulldopps Get SchwiftyRegistered User regular
    I think it's because they don't know any actual latinx people and think they talk like half-lingual caricatures

    I definitely call people putos and pendejos all the time but definitely not to their faces.

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    I'm probably going a bit too serious now for this subject, but as a non-native English speaker, it's easy to see the way I speak that I'm from a specific country. Problem is for a writer to show that in dialogue, they have to have a good understanding of both languages. It's never just a short word thrown in at the beginning or end or just replace all W's with V's and call it a day.

    So if I were to write Beak (Barnell Bohusk is not a dutch name BTW) or Klaw (Ulysses Klaw is *definitely* not a dutch name BTW), the most noticeable thing would probably be word order in sentences which has different rules (verbs are not put together for instance).
    There are certain simple words that have multiple words in english, but only one word in dutch (from/of/off for instance) so you'll see that I make a lot of mistakes in that when I'm typing fast and not concentrating. (I hate to reread any post I've ever written, because those errors immediately jump at me when I read them again.)
    Then there are words that convey a feeling/emotion that can't be exactly translated into another language.

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    As I recall the issue with Age of X-Man was that the price of his utopian world was no love

    Which is hacky as shit but it was pretty thoroughly explored and X-Tremists in particular showed how a world without love and intimacy also means a world without anyone queer in it and peace ain't worth living in a closet

    Sorry, I was referring to the run before Age of X-Man, that leads up to it. Nate Grey’s first response was not to build that world, it was to try and fix ours. Age of X-Man comes about because he feels the world is better off without the X-Men so he takes a bunch of them to an alternate reality where he creates a “utopia” for them.

    Before that he’s just focused on tearing down the abusive pillars of power in the world and fixing global warming. It’s only when the X-Men try to stop it he says “fuck it” and creates Age of X-Man.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    As I recall the issue with Age of X-Man was that the price of his utopian world was no love

    Which is hacky as shit but it was pretty thoroughly explored and X-Tremists in particular showed how a world without love and intimacy also means a world without anyone queer in it and peace ain't worth living in a closet

    Sorry, I was referring to the run before Age of X-Man, that leads up to it. Nate Grey’s first response was not to build that world, it was to try and fix ours. Age of X-Man comes about because he feels the world is better off without the X-Men so he takes a bunch of them to an alternate reality where he creates a “utopia” for them.

    Before that he’s just focused on tearing down the abusive pillars of power in the world and fixing global warming. It’s only when the X-Men try to stop it he says “fuck it” and creates Age of X-Man.

    I mean, if Age of X-Man is his response, his initial idea was probably also flawed?

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
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    Bandai's gonna not only release a figure based on Toei's Spider-Man in August but they'll also be releasing a set in September that'll have a transformable Leopardon, a mini-Spidey with Spider-Machine and for the first time a wearable copy of the Spider-Bracelet, the device which both transforms Takuya Yamashiro into Spider-Man and summons Leopardon.

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  • Blackbeard7Blackbeard7 Registered User regular
    man don't show me that while im already preordering the reprint of the chogokin gaogaigar figure

    im gonna be out like 500$ for these toy robots

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  • Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    Non-Marvel post:

    Having a bit more free time due to not having to travel 4 hours a day, I got around to reading some trades I picked up before the outbreak, both Image trades.

    - Dead Eyes vol 1. Retired masked criminal Dead Eyes returns to his old job to pay for his wife's medical bills. Duggan writing, McCrea on art. Duggan is a good writer, McCrea is a great artist. End result is kinda meh. It feels like a Brubaker/Philips thing, but not quite that quality. It's ok, but there is more out there that I'm more willing to spend my money on.

    - Reaver vol 1. Already had part of this in singles, but missed an issue and backordering single issues with Image Comics is nearly impossible. Justin Jordan and Rebekah Isaacs do the Dirty Dozen in a fantasy setting. A war between two nations escalates when one of the nations start using mass sacrifices to fuel their magic, allowing them to spy on their opponent anywhere. A sorcerer and his mute bodyguard take four condemned prisoners to take out the isolated prison where the rituals are performed. It's Jordan so it's very violent and gorey, it's Isaacs so it's looking pretty good. I like it a lot, especially the reveal at the end (though I do wonder where the story will be going from here), but the hyperviolence will probably be a turn off for some.

    Unrelated: Stjepan Šejić has released all six trades of Sunstone as free downloadable PDFs (and I think he has released Death Vigil before) through his twitter so people will have something to read while sitting at home these days. It's one of my favourite comics from recent years (due to humble bundle I also already own it all like three times now including the paper versions). It's also Top Cow's most successful comic ever (including the comics they made during the 90s speculator boom) so it's not just me. Adult content warning though (nudity, sex, BDSM) so if you're bothered by that, it might not be for you.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    Diamond Distributing is closing indefinitely due to COVID-19. This will probably kill most of the direct market.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
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    Diamond Distributing is closing indefinitely due to COVID-19. This will probably kill most of the direct market.

    Disney and AT&T can both come up with actual nonbullshit distribution platforms if they gave a shit. The smaller publishers may be in trouble.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    it all depends on how the government's stimulus pans out, but wouldn't it be weird if this is what kills Diamond's monopoly?

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
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    Unfortunately, it'd probably take down almost all of the local comic book stores with them

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. i did meet some of the most insufferable people but, they also met meRegistered User regular
    At the risk of being a bit of a downer, I wouldn't be holding my breath for most hobbyist stores to be making it out of this anyway.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    I want to read some Dr. Strange. What's on Unlimited and is a good starting point?

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    Unfortunately, it'd probably take down almost all of the local comic book stores with them

    I mean, I think shutting down is worse, but my impression was that most shops had to diversify because comics were not much of a moneymaker as is.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Unfortunately, it'd probably take down almost all of the local comic book stores with them

    I mean, I think shutting down is worse, but my impression was that most shops had to diversify because comics were not much of a moneymaker as is.

    A good chunk of what they diversified into is also distributed by Diamond. Although Magic is what mostly keeps stores alive... and those sales aren't going to be too hot right now either.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I want to read some Dr. Strange. What's on Unlimited and is a good starting point?

    Doctor Strange & Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment, Doctor Strange: The Oath, and Strange (2009) are good self-contained Doctor Strange stories to start out with

    Doctor Strange (2015) is probably the best starting point for an ongoing Doctor Strange series

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Of those you listed, the only one I can find on Unlimited is the 2015 run, so I'll just start there. Should keep me occupied for some time, thanks!

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    Straightzi wrote: »
    Miss America Chavez is a Marvel comics superhero who was created by Joe Casey and Nick Dragotta. She was a minor character in their book, and rose to prominence with Gillen and McKelvie's Young Avengers, where she had a leading role - during this time many of the details of her character were refined and fleshed out.

    America Vasquez is an Image comics superhero who was created by Joe Casey and Nick Dragotta. She is, rather blatantly, a rip-off of their own work (which, fine, whatever), as well as the work of Gillen and McKelvie (a lot more questionable) whose comic is marketed as being by the creators of Miss America Chavez.

    Thank you for the summary, I was confused as fuck somewhere in there.

    I miss Young Avengers.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Of those you listed, the only one I can find on Unlimited is the 2015 run, so I'll just start there. Should keep me occupied fhttps://www.marvel.com/comics/series/9011/strange_2009_-_2010or some time, thanks!

    That's weird, they're all there.


    Doctor Strange & Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment


    Doctor Strange: The Oath

    Strange (2009 - 2010)

  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Boy I sure am glad you're better at navigating their website than I am. I searched and searched and found fuck all.

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