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an american politics/democratic primaries thread for the naughty children of d&d

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    rhylith wrote: »
    Cello wrote: »
    I like Warren a lot, but I switched to wanting a Sanders win after she moved more center on Medicare for All, because man, if there's an issue I want someone to run left and not middle on, it's that

    I still think she'd be critical to a Sanders presidency as someone who can bridge the gap between the socialists and centrist Dems and potentially get things passed with her policy knowledge, so I hope they can still keep things civil

    I'd say I'd vote for either of them but that would be fraud because I'm extremely foreign sorry everybody

    She didn't move more to the center on M4A, though.

    Also, she's one of the key people who will help any bill Sanders advocates for actually make it through the Senate. Which means that if she did move to the center on M4A, a less-center-y version would still not pass because there's no advocate to her left in the Senate.

    I posted about this in D&D but she absolutely did move to the center on M4A by splitting her plan into a second vote years later to end private insurance, which displays a supreme lack of confidence in phase 2. All the goodwill will be spent getting phase 1 passed and it will be compromised down in such a way that prevents phase 2 from happening.

    She’s essentially pre-negotiated the true objective of M4A away and instead is starting with a slightly better version of the original ACA plan.

    So "moving to the center" on this policy means "doing the same thing, but in a way I think might not work."

    I think that the Sanders plan to pass M4A as I've heard it is unlikely to work because the Senate is a horrible institution and even 51 Dem seats is honestly not guaranteed. But I also trust that he's a sensible enough person to figure out how to get an immediate expansion of healthcare implemented because it will have a material benefit and then continue to work on getting more good done.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Speaking about downticket stuff

    hahahah you know how shitty the Arkansas dnc is? They didn’t run a candidate against Tom Cotton because they fucking couldn’t get the paperwork for their guy in on time I shit you not

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  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    Speaking about downticket stuff

    hahahah you know how shitty the Arkansas dnc is? They didn’t run a candidate against Tom Cotton because they fucking couldn’t get the paperwork for their guy in on time I shit you not

    Are you fucking kidding me?

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    I am completely fucked WRT local politics and district based stuff. Where I live (southern Pennsylvania) goes 80-90% Republican on everything without fail.

    If someone besides Sanders or I guess Warren wins the primary I'm basically just going to be showing up to vote for governor. Cause our govenor ain't great but hes basically all that's kept our insane state legislature under control.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    one of the things that i'm absolutely furious at the General Democratic Establishment about is that they don't do fucking SHIT for downticket stuff they just let it go to the wolves

    that's why you lost the senate and the house last time you fucking morons!

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    one of the things that i'm absolutely furious at the General Democratic Establishment about is that they don't do fucking SHIT for downticket stuff they just let it go to the wolves

    that's why you lost the senate and the house last time you fucking morons!

    i don't understand how "finding a strong candidate to run against mitch mcconnell" isn't like, their #1 priority

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    edited February 2020
    I'm more bullish on Warren and Burnie than Gundi but generally I agree with their take.

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    I don't support Bloomberg. I'll vote for him over Trump but I'd vote for an actual vampire over Trump.

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  • jammujammu 2020 is now. Registered User regular


    Only the finest news source. (aka satire)

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    edited February 2020
    rhylith wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    Speaking about downticket stuff

    hahahah you know how shitty the Arkansas dnc is? They didn’t run a candidate against Tom Cotton because they fucking couldn’t get the paperwork for their guy in on time I shit you not

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    Their guy Josh Mahoney dropped out like four hours after filing could be done in November. He cited family reasons that no one could track. But it’s more or less been accepted he either fucked up his paperwork or got the willies from Cottons opposition research which is also a great look

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    Speaking about downticket stuff

    hahahah you know how shitty the Arkansas dnc is? They didn’t run a candidate against Tom Cotton because they fucking couldn’t get the paperwork for their guy in on time I shit you not

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    There is nothing really that surprising about how badly the IDP fucked up. State-level democratic parties are very frequently terrible at their jobs. /looks at Florida

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Christ at some point in my lifetime I just want to see national popular vote implemented. It wouldn't solve everything but it would at least maybe get people to act like downticket stuff mattered during a Presidential year instead of being like 'oh that state isn't competitive don't bother flipping the statehouse and changing the course of the next decade of redistricting'

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    So anyways as the state who brought you Mike Huckabees jokes, Sarah Huckabee Sanders inevitable governorship, Bill Clinton’s well whole deal, and the future presidential campaign of Tom Cotton I’m not sure we should be allowed to politic

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    sometimes i think i'd be a good president but then remember i've posted here since i was 15

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    no pollyanna Soviet apologists get to be president here.

    hey spool i read your shit all the time and routinely think you're an absolute ghoul of a person but can you tell me what the fuck this means

    Hey Whippy Bernie traveled to the USSR and his opinions of the soviet mass transit system were quite credulous. It was a thing, allowing US folks to travel there and trying to get them to be propaganda vectors, and that's what he did.

  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    you know the ussr doesn't exist anymore right

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    It's "fun" to think about how the electoral college votes dont actually HAVE to be cast for whoever wins the state's popular vote in like 3/4 of the states in the country.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Bernie got shirtless vodka drunk with miners or something in the ussr

    As problematic background details go for presidential candidates I’ll give this a pass

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    you know the ussr doesn't exist anymore right

    yes, this was quite some time ago.

    You know I'm old enough to remember when they did, right?

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    no pollyanna Soviet apologists get to be president here.

    hey spool i read your shit all the time and routinely think you're an absolute ghoul of a person but can you tell me what the fuck this means

    Hey Whippy Bernie traveled to the USSR and his opinions of the soviet mass transit system were quite credulous. It was a thing, allowing US folks to travel there and trying to get them to be propaganda vectors, and that's what he did.

    Mass transit is good, though?

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    Bernie got shirtless vodka drunk with miners or something in the ussr

    As problematic background details go for presidential candidates I’ll give this a pass

    Oh no, he associated with working-class people! Call the whole thing off!

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Wait

    You're calling him a soviet apologist because he

    Went to the USSR decades ago and liked how they handle mass transit?

    Fuckin what

    Also the idea that, like, having a positive opinion about literally anything the USSR did making you an "apologist" is incredible. They did some good shit that we should have taken notes from. They also did a lot of extremely bad shit. Weirdly, folks can think both are true!

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    you know the ussr doesn't exist anymore right

    yes, this was quite some time ago.

    You know I'm old enough to remember when they did, right?

    We can all definitely tell you're old, yes

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  • McHogerMcHoger Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    It's "fun" to think about how the electoral college votes dont actually HAVE to be cast for whoever wins the state's popular vote in like 3/4 of the states in the country.

    If I had to put money on the next "taboo" Republicans break, this is where it would go.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    you know the ussr doesn't exist anymore right

    yes, this was quite some time ago.

    You know I'm old enough to remember when they did, right?

    We can all definitely tell you're old, yes

    He's not that old! Gen X, I believe.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Bernie getting shithouse drunk with a bunch of Soviet miners rules

    More candidates should have to get drunk and interact with regular working folk

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    the guy wants to give you free healthcare and education but i guess thinking "they had nice trains" is a totally reasonable reason to vote for the stop and frisk mayor instead

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    McHoger wrote: »
    turtleant wrote: »
    It's "fun" to think about how the electoral college votes dont actually HAVE to be cast for whoever wins the state's popular vote in like 3/4 of the states in the country.

    If I had to put money on the next "taboo" Republicans break, this is where it would go.

    Bruh I'm not so sure the Dems wont do it if Bernie gets the nom.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    no pollyanna Soviet apologists get to be president here.

    hey spool i read your shit all the time and routinely think you're an absolute ghoul of a person but can you tell me what the fuck this means

    Hey Whippy Bernie traveled to the USSR and his opinions of the soviet mass transit system were quite credulous. It was a thing, allowing US folks to travel there and trying to get them to be propaganda vectors, and that's what he did.

    Mass transit is good, though?

    The soviet system was especially bloody as major public works go. Looks pretty amazing, I'll give 'em that. The point was to build something that would shame the major western cities, regardless of how many thousands had to die in the process.

    (it was a lot of thousands)

    And then trot people from the west through it and send them home to talk about the greatness of the USSR.

  • useruser Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    no pollyanna Soviet apologists get to be president here.

    hey spool i read your shit all the time and routinely think you're an absolute ghoul of a person but can you tell me what the fuck this means

    Hey Whippy Bernie traveled to the USSR and his opinions of the soviet mass transit system were quite credulous. It was a thing, allowing US folks to travel there and trying to get them to be propaganda vectors, and that's what he did.

    There's an interview from Bernie Sanders (back when he went as Bernard) in 1981 with Phil Donahue and I think one notable thing it contains is that Bernie outright calls the Soviet Union authoritarian, and he tells Phil Donahue that as a socialist he values both the power of dissent and civil liberties.

    I think maybe you're putting your own bias into why he went to the Soviet Union? I mean we all do; I tend to be a bit more charitable because I'm sympathetic about it. I think he went because on the one hand at the time, the propaganda surrounding the USSR was very dehumanizing, and one thing a lot of intellectual leftists would do during the time is go -- just to see for themselves that people were people.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
    Wait

    You're calling him a soviet apologist because he

    Went to the USSR decades ago and liked how they handle mass transit?

    Fuckin what

    Also the idea that, like, having a positive opinion about literally anything the USSR did making you an "apologist" is incredible. They did some good shit that we should have taken notes from. They also did a lot of extremely bad shit. Weirdly, folks can think both are true!

    Kind of like how dogs are great but dog poop is bad?

  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited February 2020
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    no pollyanna Soviet apologists get to be president here.

    hey spool i read your shit all the time and routinely think you're an absolute ghoul of a person but can you tell me what the fuck this means

    Hey Whippy Bernie traveled to the USSR and his opinions of the soviet mass transit system were quite credulous. It was a thing, allowing US folks to travel there and trying to get them to be propaganda vectors, and that's what he did.

    Mass transit is good, though?

    i'm pretty sure the idea here is that's besides the point, and that praising the USSR for mass transit is drawing attention from other less good things about them

    sort of like praising america for NASA while ignoring the part where our military drops bombs on rescue workers

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    one of the things that i'm absolutely furious at the General Democratic Establishment about is that they don't do fucking SHIT for downticket stuff they just let it go to the wolves

    that's why you lost the senate and the house last time you fucking morons!

    i don't understand how "finding a strong candidate to run against mitch mcconnell" isn't like, their #1 priority

    Is Amy McGrath not a strong candidate?

  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I think I’m just more scared of the American’s threat to America than Russia’s

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I have bad news about how many people died building American rail lines

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    point being, since they're running for president, i kind of take it as given that literally every candidate has had some kind words for an entity that's committed atrocities and i'm not especially hecked up over the idea that sanders had kind words for a different atrocity-committting entity several decades ago

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    one of the things that i'm absolutely furious at the General Democratic Establishment about is that they don't do fucking SHIT for downticket stuff they just let it go to the wolves

    that's why you lost the senate and the house last time you fucking morons!

    i don't understand how "finding a strong candidate to run against mitch mcconnell" isn't like, their #1 priority

    Is Amy McGrath not a strong candidate?

    She looks great on paper, but then starts campaigning and it all falls apart. She couldn't win a House seat in the 2nd most liberal district in Kentucky, I don't know why she'd be able to win statewide.

  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    spool32 wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    no pollyanna Soviet apologists get to be president here.

    hey spool i read your shit all the time and routinely think you're an absolute ghoul of a person but can you tell me what the fuck this means

    Hey Whippy Bernie traveled to the USSR and his opinions of the soviet mass transit system were quite credulous. It was a thing, allowing US folks to travel there and trying to get them to be propaganda vectors, and that's what he did.

    Mass transit is good, though?

    The soviet system was especially bloody as major public works go. Looks pretty amazing, I'll give 'em that. The point was to build something that would shame the major western cities, regardless of how many thousands had to die in the process.

    (it was a lot of thousands)

    And then trot people from the west through it and send them home to talk about the greatness of the USSR.

    they sure did and that sure sucks but how does this pay for my insulin

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    people are dying now, spool

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