I wanna set up a raid 5 across 5 disks. That would be 51 gigs with redundancy. Anyone have $20k laying around I can borrow? I promise I'm good for it. :P
I just built this Sunday, worked like a dream since then. Yesterday afternoon I installed an additional SSD. I'm pretty sure I had everything correctly connected and all, but when I went to turn on the PC the front panel lights of my Lian Li LANCOOL II started flickering like mad. The buttons on top of the case don't seem to change anything materially (just maybe change the frequency of the flashing) and the MSI Dragon Center app that controls all the other RGB on the motherboard has no effect on the front panel. It'll change the RAM and RGB on the actual mobo, but no effect at all on the panel.
I'm thinking the panel or case had some kind of surge? Or something? I just now got the lights to turn off, but it's a complete crapshoot as to whether I can do it again. Everything else in the computer works great.
The 3080 is so tempting. Waiting for reviews obviously but damn.
The biggest thing staying my hand is the feeling that there will be a Ti on the horizon.
I'm the same, though the longer I can wait the less of a headache it is. I'm sticking with EVGA so as well, probably the FTW variant, but what I really want is a GTX 3080 Ti (or at least I'm assuming so).
I don't really care about RGB, but the FTW models have served me very well (and resell well, though I'm not optimistic about what I'll get for my GTX 1080 Ti, another reason to wait as long as possible I suppose).
Got the new PC built loaded and running, but the case seemed to be missing a wire for the power LED. I can't find one coming out of the case header at all.
The comments seem to indicate it just doesn't have one.
Oh well. She runs fast and cooler than my old Dell XPS 8930 with its bad heat management. Waiting on a fan splitter to finish up and then see if I can manage the cables
better.
And my son will thrilled to have something stronger than his 1050 Ti cobbled together Dell Optiplex 9020 to play Fortnite on.
I've got a 1080 FTW so definitely looking forward to an upgrade. Torn on whether or not a 3080 or 3070 is a better value for me. Might be time to build a new PC also as it's been about 6 years.
I'm in the same boat, I think I'll just build a new one completely and keep the old as a VR rig
I've got a 1080 FTW so definitely looking forward to an upgrade. Torn on whether or not a 3080 or 3070 is a better value for me. Might be time to build a new PC also as it's been about 6 years.
I'm in the same boat, I think I'll just build a new one completely and keep the old as a VR rig
Long term the 3080 will be the better investment. Spend a bit more money up front for better long term performance. Especially if you plan to not upgrade for 4+ years. If you ever plan to get a 1440p or 4K display the 3080 will be worth it.
Got the new PC built loaded and running, but the case seemed to be missing a wire for the power LED. I can't find one coming out of the case header at all.
The comments seem to indicate it just doesn't have one.
Oh well. She runs fast and cooler than my old Dell XPS 8930 with its bad heat management. Waiting on a fan splitter to finish up and then see if I can manage the cables
better.
And my son will thrilled to have something stronger than his 1050 Ti cobbled together Dell Optiplex 9020 to play Fortnite on.
I think most modern cases split the power LED connector in into separate + and - wires. Do you have that?
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I wonder if Nvidia's pricing was partially influenced by the lack of a leap of faith from Sony and MS. "Oh, neither of you want to come out first in this macro environment? We'll just try to get as many punters as possible to consider/decide on committing their entertainment budget to PC gaming in September/October, before you even get to launch."
I wonder if Nvidia's pricing was partially influenced by the lack of a leap of faith from Sony and MS. "Oh, neither of you want to come out first in this macro environment? We'll just try to get as many punters as possible to consider/decide on committing their entertainment budget to PC gaming in September/October, before you even get to launch."
It is possible. It seems that elements of the PS5's performance features were noticed by nVidia.*
*It is possible that rtx storage was developed without knowledge of the PS5's storage solution, as they are both being built to solve a problem that is already happening in gaming.
I know just not this soon, and it seems it is it's just regular ddr6. So I guess a bit of a difference, but still.
Ti or Super variants are likely but for the 3070 I wouldn't expect that for 6+ months at least. You could always sell the 3080 and put that money towards a possible 3070 Super. When benchmarks come out 10GB of GDDR6X may be better than 16GB of GDDR6. Even with more memory the 3080 is still going to be faster and you'll have the faster card now as opposed to a theoretical card that may not come out for a long time.
There is always something better coming with tech. Always in the next few months. If you have the money now and need to upgrade just buy the card now.
Got the new PC built loaded and running, but the case seemed to be missing a wire for the power LED. I can't find one coming out of the case header at all.
The comments seem to indicate it just doesn't have one.
Oh well. She runs fast and cooler than my old Dell XPS 8930 with its bad heat management. Waiting on a fan splitter to finish up and then see if I can manage the cables
better.
And my son will thrilled to have something stronger than his 1050 Ti cobbled together Dell Optiplex 9020 to play Fortnite on.
I think most modern cases split the power LED connector in into separate + and - wires. Do you have that?
I'll triple check when I get in there to install a fan splitter when it arrives, but I am pretty sure I traced down every where coming from the case header.
EDIT: Apparently this case has no reset button connections or power button LED. Just HDD LED and the power switch itself.
I just built this Sunday, worked like a dream since then. Yesterday afternoon I installed an additional SSD. I'm pretty sure I had everything correctly connected and all, but when I went to turn on the PC the front panel lights of my Lian Li LANCOOL II started flickering like mad. The buttons on top of the case don't seem to change anything materially (just maybe change the frequency of the flashing) and the MSI Dragon Center app that controls all the other RGB on the motherboard has no effect on the front panel. It'll change the RAM and RGB on the actual mobo, but no effect at all on the panel.
I'm thinking the panel or case had some kind of surge? Or something? I just now got the lights to turn off, but it's a complete crapshoot as to whether I can do it again. Everything else in the computer works great.
Barring a part failure that sounds like a short - loose/partially connected cable maybe. I'd take a look at all the connnecitons involved and make sure something didn't come loose (or somehow end up touching something else).
Hopefully it's 6+ months then, I don't mind that. Just odd that Lenovo would already have SKU's with them part of their builds, that would make the release seem more imminent.
Do you guess a 3070ti would be less power hungry than a 3080, or would they both require a 750 W PSU if they're similar hardware
Speculation: it will likely be a downclocked 3080 so it should have similar power requirements to a 3070. For reference, check the power requirements for 2070, 2070 Ti, and 2080.
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Hearing that there are no preorders for the initial run of 3070s, 3080s, and 3090s.
Yikes. Gonna be having to fight off bots and scalpers from minute 1 if you want to get your hands on one of these guys.
Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
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That honestly actually tips me towards trying to get a 3080 as soon as EVGA put theirs up rather than waiting and seeing, because it means supply is probably fucked. Better to try and get in early and then sell it later if the 3080 Ti comes out and blows its socks off or something.
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I'm just curious to see more in depth reviews around things like the RTX IO or VRAM usage or PCIe 4.0 usage.
Since I'm also interested in the 3090, that gives me some time to see how the 3080 market and reviews shake out.
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Yeah, I'm glad the 3080 is hitting a week before the 3090 goes up for pre-sale. If 3080 reviews are glowing, I'll likely get up early the 24th and try and get a 3090 pre-order. If the 3080 reviews are shakey, I'll wait and see how things pan out.
Well shit. 3000 series cards are not going to be up for preorder. It's going to be a messy free for all competing with bots and scalpers to get a card. That's not going to be fun.
I'm not going to lie I'm kinda interested in the 3090, but I think I'm more interested in keeping $1500.
3080ti kinda sounds like a no brainer for me though. I want more VRAM than the 3080 has and even with the increased speeds I'm not sure 10 is enough for the long term use I expect to get out of a $800 part (which is where I assume the AIBs are going to sit at).
Yeah, I'm glad the 3080 is hitting a week before the 3090 goes up for pre-sale. If 3080 reviews are glowing, I'll likely get up early the 24th and try and get a 3090 pre-order. If the 3080 reviews are shakey, I'll wait and see how things pan out.
I'm planning on buying a pre-built machine since my computer is over 8 years old. I'm curious to see how the retail supply works out.
However I'm thinking I may just wait till we see what AMD's next release is like. Folks seem to think it'll be something pretty good for gaming. I don't really need the new machine till Cyberpunk comes out.
I'm not going to lie I'm kinda interested in the 3090, but I think I'm more interested in keeping $1500.
3080ti kinda sounds like a no brainer for me though. I want more VRAM than the 3080 has and even with the increased speeds I'm not sure 10 is enough for the long term use I expect to get out of a $800 part (which is where I assume the AIBs are going to sit at).
There are rumors of AIB's doing some custom RAM configurations. But they may not be here for launch.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
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There is a clear and glaring empty spot in the middle of their price stack, right around the 1000-1200 tier...but I think the rumored 3080 20GB is likely to slot in there. They may end up just calling that the 3080 Ti, but given that the 3090 is already an effectively unlocked big die, I'm not sure what chip they use...I guess one that is somewhere between the full GA-102 and the 3080? They didn't leave themself a ton of compute space there to work with, just VRAM.
Aren't the xx80 Tis usually just two xx80s jammed into the same card?
No, it's a variant of the chip with more more memory, processing units, and faster clock speed. A couple of generations ago there were cards with multiple GPU chips on one board.
Aren't the xx80 Tis usually just two xx80s jammed into the same card?
Not really. Since the 980 Ti, the *80 Ti's have been cut down versions of whatever the "big die" is. Generally the Titan card would have the full big die with enterprise features turned off, than the *80 Ti would have the same chip with some of the SM's turned off (generally because they are defective, it's a binning exercise). For instance, the 2080 Ti uses the TU-102 die, which is the same GPU as the Titan RTX. The 2080/Super use the TU-104 which is the smaller die version of Turing.
Since the 3090 is meant to be the new Titan, we can assume it's using a full GA-102 die with enterprise features turned off. We don't know yet if the 3080 is a smaller package GA-104 die, or if it's a GA-102 cut down from the 3090 like a *80 Ti would be.
Aren't the xx80 Tis usually just two xx80s jammed into the same card?
No, it's a variant of the chip with more more memory, processing units, and faster clock speed. A couple of generations ago there were cards with multiple GPU chips on one board.
The *80 Ti's tend to have lower clock speeds than *80's. They make up for the lower clock speed, which is forced by the more complex transistor layouts, by having a lot more processing units.
I guess I'll get up early on the 17th and go to microcenter, it's only 5 mins away. Kinda want to have it in hand unless they give some info on how online orders will work or unlock.
I'm gonna wait a couple months and hope that supply exists then, just in case any issues with the new cards pop up.
Will decide whether I want a 3090 or 3080 once benchmarks and whatnot are out. I'm willing to stretch my budget for it but only if it has really obvious benefit for my use-case (4k gaming @ 60fps).
Plenty of time to figure out the rest of the build, though.
I'm kind of inclined to go with the Fractal Design Define 7 for my case -- I currently have a much older revision of the same case and it doesn't really seem like anything new on the market has overtaken them on "pretty non-descript box that is also sound dampened". Honestly, the only reason I'm replacing my current case instead of re-using it again is because my older revision isn't quite properly outfitted for mounting a radiator. Before I commit, though, are there any other cases I should check out that fit that sort of profile?
I'm definitely sticking with Fractal Design come my next case, whenever that actually happens. Albeit probably the R6, because I have an earlier R model, which seems to occupy a size between the Define 7 and the Define 7 XL?
If I could get an online vendor to build a setup using a Fractal Design case (like NCIX US did), I might never build another PC again. My favorite case I've ever owned.
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I wanna set up a raid 5 across 5 disks. That would be 51 gigs with redundancy. Anyone have $20k laying around I can borrow? I promise I'm good for it. :P
I just built this Sunday, worked like a dream since then. Yesterday afternoon I installed an additional SSD. I'm pretty sure I had everything correctly connected and all, but when I went to turn on the PC the front panel lights of my Lian Li LANCOOL II started flickering like mad. The buttons on top of the case don't seem to change anything materially (just maybe change the frequency of the flashing) and the MSI Dragon Center app that controls all the other RGB on the motherboard has no effect on the front panel. It'll change the RAM and RGB on the actual mobo, but no effect at all on the panel.
I'm thinking the panel or case had some kind of surge? Or something? I just now got the lights to turn off, but it's a complete crapshoot as to whether I can do it again. Everything else in the computer works great.
I'd appreciate any help you can give.
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I'm the same, though the longer I can wait the less of a headache it is. I'm sticking with EVGA so as well, probably the FTW variant, but what I really want is a GTX 3080 Ti (or at least I'm assuming so).
I don't really care about RGB, but the FTW models have served me very well (and resell well, though I'm not optimistic about what I'll get for my GTX 1080 Ti, another reason to wait as long as possible I suppose).
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The comments seem to indicate it just doesn't have one.
Oh well. She runs fast and cooler than my old Dell XPS 8930 with its bad heat management. Waiting on a fan splitter to finish up and then see if I can manage the cables
better.
And my son will thrilled to have something stronger than his 1050 Ti cobbled together Dell Optiplex 9020 to play Fortnite on.
I'm in the same boat, I think I'll just build a new one completely and keep the old as a VR rig
Long term the 3080 will be the better investment. Spend a bit more money up front for better long term performance. Especially if you plan to not upgrade for 4+ years. If you ever plan to get a 1440p or 4K display the 3080 will be worth it.
I think most modern cases split the power LED connector in into separate + and - wires. Do you have that?
Rumored 3070rtx TI with 16gb of RAM, maybe it's actually a 3080.
I would want a 3080 with more memory, so I may actually wait now.
Link to PC Gamer Article
It is possible. It seems that elements of the PS5's performance features were noticed by nVidia.*
*It is possible that rtx storage was developed without knowledge of the PS5's storage solution, as they are both being built to solve a problem that is already happening in gaming.
I think TI or Super variants are inevitable
Thoughts on the 3070? Most talk I've seen is focused around the 3080.
I know just not this soon, and it seems it is it's just regular ddr6. So I guess a bit of a difference, but still.
I'll bet real money it's a binned 3080 part.
Ti or Super variants are likely but for the 3070 I wouldn't expect that for 6+ months at least. You could always sell the 3080 and put that money towards a possible 3070 Super. When benchmarks come out 10GB of GDDR6X may be better than 16GB of GDDR6. Even with more memory the 3080 is still going to be faster and you'll have the faster card now as opposed to a theoretical card that may not come out for a long time.
There is always something better coming with tech. Always in the next few months. If you have the money now and need to upgrade just buy the card now.
I'll triple check when I get in there to install a fan splitter when it arrives, but I am pretty sure I traced down every where coming from the case header.
EDIT: Apparently this case has no reset button connections or power button LED. Just HDD LED and the power switch itself.
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Barring a part failure that sounds like a short - loose/partially connected cable maybe. I'd take a look at all the connnecitons involved and make sure something didn't come loose (or somehow end up touching something else).
Speculation: it will likely be a downclocked 3080 so it should have similar power requirements to a 3070. For reference, check the power requirements for 2070, 2070 Ti, and 2080.
Yikes. Gonna be having to fight off bots and scalpers from minute 1 if you want to get your hands on one of these guys.
If true, much sad.
Since I'm also interested in the 3090, that gives me some time to see how the 3080 market and reviews shake out.
3080ti kinda sounds like a no brainer for me though. I want more VRAM than the 3080 has and even with the increased speeds I'm not sure 10 is enough for the long term use I expect to get out of a $800 part (which is where I assume the AIBs are going to sit at).
I'm planning on buying a pre-built machine since my computer is over 8 years old. I'm curious to see how the retail supply works out.
However I'm thinking I may just wait till we see what AMD's next release is like. Folks seem to think it'll be something pretty good for gaming. I don't really need the new machine till Cyberpunk comes out.
There are rumors of AIB's doing some custom RAM configurations. But they may not be here for launch.
No, they haven't done dual gpu cards in a very long time.
Usually just binned XX80 chips
No, it's a variant of the chip with more more memory, processing units, and faster clock speed. A couple of generations ago there were cards with multiple GPU chips on one board.
Not really. Since the 980 Ti, the *80 Ti's have been cut down versions of whatever the "big die" is. Generally the Titan card would have the full big die with enterprise features turned off, than the *80 Ti would have the same chip with some of the SM's turned off (generally because they are defective, it's a binning exercise). For instance, the 2080 Ti uses the TU-102 die, which is the same GPU as the Titan RTX. The 2080/Super use the TU-104 which is the smaller die version of Turing.
Since the 3090 is meant to be the new Titan, we can assume it's using a full GA-102 die with enterprise features turned off. We don't know yet if the 3080 is a smaller package GA-104 die, or if it's a GA-102 cut down from the 3090 like a *80 Ti would be.
The *80 Ti's tend to have lower clock speeds than *80's. They make up for the lower clock speed, which is forced by the more complex transistor layouts, by having a lot more processing units.
3070 seems intriguing, but I have to upgrade my 3rd gen i5 first.
Besides, I just now finally got a 1080p monitor a couple months ago.
Will decide whether I want a 3090 or 3080 once benchmarks and whatnot are out. I'm willing to stretch my budget for it but only if it has really obvious benefit for my use-case (4k gaming @ 60fps).
Plenty of time to figure out the rest of the build, though.
I'm kind of inclined to go with the Fractal Design Define 7 for my case -- I currently have a much older revision of the same case and it doesn't really seem like anything new on the market has overtaken them on "pretty non-descript box that is also sound dampened". Honestly, the only reason I'm replacing my current case instead of re-using it again is because my older revision isn't quite properly outfitted for mounting a radiator. Before I commit, though, are there any other cases I should check out that fit that sort of profile?
If I could get an online vendor to build a setup using a Fractal Design case (like NCIX US did), I might never build another PC again. My favorite case I've ever owned.