Twilight Imperium - Game 6: Round 5 - Action Phase

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Oh good. I can stop assuming every possible fight has fighter prototype

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    All the fighters will roll 10 against you regardless though.

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  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    All the fighters will roll 10 against you regardless though.

    Carriers too.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    The card doesn't affect carriers, so that was presumably factored into the original battle plans

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited October 5
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    @MrBody: You already discarded Tactical Bombardment after drawing cards during the Status Phase; you will need to choose another card to discard.

    @MrBlarney
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    After 1 of your ships is destroyed during a space combat: Roll 2 dice. For each result equal to or greater than that ship's combat value, your opponent must choose and destroy 1 of his ships.

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    The second Agenda of the Agenda Phase is revealed from the top of the deck:

    Incentive Program (Directive)
    For: Draw and reveal 1 Stage I public objective from the deck and place it near the public objectives.
    Against: Draw and reveal 1 Stage II public objective from the deck and place it near the public objectives.

    Voting Order
    Nekro Virus (Phyphor): Cannot vote due to Galactic Threat
    Federation of Sol (MrBody): Up to 13 votes
    The Naalu Collective (38thDoe): Up to 5 votes
    The Winnu (discrider): Up to 14 votes
    Universities of Jol-Nar (Ketar): Up to 18 votes
    The Ghosts of Creuss (A Half Eaten Oreo): Up to 5 votes; Speaker

    At least 24 hours will be allocated for discussion, deals, transactions, and Action Card declarations, unless all players collectively call for voting to start before then.

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    For reference, here are the objectives that have not yet been seen this game:

    Stage I
    Sway the Council (1 VP): Spend 8 influence.
    Lead from the Front (1 VP): Spend a total of 3 tokens from your Tactic and/or Strategy pools.
    Develop Weaponry (1 VP): Own 2 unit upgrade technologies.
    Expand Borders (1 VP): Control 6 planets in non-home systems.
    Intimidate Council (1 VP): Have one or more ships in 2 systems that are adjacent to Mecatol Rex's system.

    Stage II
    Found a Golden Age (2 VP): Spend 16 resources.
    Manipulate Galactic Law (2 VP): Spend 16 influence.
    Centralize Galactic Trade (2 VP): Spend 10 Trade Goods.
    Galvanize the People (2 VP): Spend a total of 6 tokens from your Tactic and/or Strategy pools.
    Master the Sciences (2 VP): Own 2 technologies in each of 4 colors.
    Revolutionize Warfare (2 VP): Own 3 unit upgrade technologies.
    Subdue the Galaxy (2 VP): Control 11 planets in non-home systems.
    Form Galactic Brain Trust (2 VP): Control 5 planets that have technology specialties.
    Conquer the Weak (2 VP): Control 1 planet that is in another player's home system.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I assume picking a stage II objective doesn't shorten the game by climbing closet to the 5 objective limit?

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited October 5
    Regardless, I believe I'm voting For
    Against seems like it would be asking Jol Nar to run away with the game

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    I assume picking a stage II objective doesn't shorten the game by climbing closet to the 5 objective limit?
    Correct: the objective drawn from this Agenda is outside of the ten objectives that were picked at the start of the game. The 'deck' term I use in my status posts is a bit of a holdover from 3rd edition and should probably be better called an objective line in the 4th edition terminology.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    My 5 meaningless votes are up for sale.

  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    I like the idea of an extra Stage II objective, which means we'll probably end up with a Stage I. So let's see if I can't get at least something out of this either way.

    Politics Rider
    After an agenda is revealed: You cannot vote on this agenda. Predict aloud an outcome of this agenda. If your prediction is correct, draw 3 action cards and gain the speaker token.

    Predict For.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    No Sab

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Ah, whoops. I forgot to post here last night. Given the amount of time between the Politics Rider play and the general tenor of the discussion, I'm gonna call it as having gone through at this point and will open the agenda up for voting. Here's what we've got:

    Incentive Program (Directive)
    For: Draw and reveal 1 Stage I public objective from the deck and place it near the public objectives.
    Against: Draw and reveal 1 Stage II public objective from the deck and place it near the public objectives.

    Voting Order
    Nekro Virus (Phyphor): Cannot vote due to Galactic Threat
    Federation of Sol (@MrBody): Up to 13 votes
    The Naalu Collective (38thDoe): Up to 5 votes
    The Winnu (discrider): Up to 14 votes
    Universities of Jol-Nar (Ketar): Politics Rider - FOR
    The Ghosts of Creuss (A Half Eaten Oreo): Up to 5 votes; Speaker

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    @Phyphor for confirmation on no sab.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    I'm not going to sabotage that

    I would expect people to pull a 2 pt anyway, everybody needs to catch up so increased VP objectives = good

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    This agenda is so boring.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    I'm not going to sabotage that

    I would expect people to pull a 2 pt anyway, everybody needs to catch up so increased VP objectives = good

    I mean, we could.
    Or we could eliminate Sol.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Doesn't @Phyphor have to make a prediction first?

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    Doesn't @Phyphor have to make a prediction first?

    No, he made it last agenda

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  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    He only gets one prediction per agenda phase, not per agenda.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    13 for

    @38thDoe

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    @38thDoe to vote on the agenda.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Oops sorry pass.
    @discrider

    @Ketar i guess I would take your research agreement if no one wants it

  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    discrider, vote For so I can go ahead and post this for Phyphor:

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I mean maybe.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited October 13
    What were you looking at for your note @Ketar
    Also really not sure what way to vote now.

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  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    I'll trade my note for either your political secret, trade agreement or support for the throne if you vote For. I don't care which.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Propose Political Secret for the note and Voting For then @Ketar

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  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    Agreed.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Do you want to exchange Support for the Thrones @38thDoe ?

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited October 13
    I don't believe the timing of the transactions matters as long as it's still the voting part of the Agenda phase, so voting all For too

    ..bolding

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Flagging @38thDoe again, as I've just realised their avatar isn't a Pinsir.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited October 14
    Pff Pinsir, Heracross 4 life!

    eh I guess we can support for the throne eachother.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    @A Half Eaten Oreo for wrapping up the phase

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Pff Pinsir, Heracross 4 life!

    eh I guess we can support for the throne eachother.

    Also bold to formally accept please.

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  • A Half Eaten OreoA Half Eaten Oreo Registered User regular
    We Abstain since it doesn't matter

    @MrBlarney

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited October 14
    Vote Outcome
    27 Votes - FOR (Sol, Winnu)

    The agenda passes FOR; a Stage I Objective is added to the line:
    Galvanize the People (2 VP): Spend a total of 6 tokens from your Tactic and/or Strategy pools.
    Lead from the Front (1 VP): Spend a total of 3 tokens from your Tactic and/or Strategy pools.

    Jol-Nar's Politics Rider triggers, letting them claim the Speaker Token and draw 3 Action Cards. This puts them 2 cards over the limit. Once Ketar announces their discards, we'll start up the Round 5 Strategy Phase.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    Vote Outcome
    27 Votes - FOR (Sol, Winnu)

    The agenda passes FOR; a Stage II Objective is added to the line:
    Galvanize the People (2 VP): Spend a total of 6 tokens from your Tactic and/or Strategy pools.

    Jol-Nar's Politics Rider triggers, letting them claim the Speaker Token and draw 3 Action Cards. This puts them 2 cards over the limit. Once Ketar announces their discards, we'll start up the Round 5 Strategy Phase.

    For is a Stage I Agenda Mr B

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