Wait, seriously? The reason my eggs are literally like five times as expensive as they were a couple years ago is just monopolistic price gouging?
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Pretty much all the grocery increases the last couple years are price gouging, they're mostly well over inflation %. The companies are admitting it pretty openly, too, since they know there's no political will to do anything about it.
“In the end, what Cal-Maine Foods and the other large egg producers did last year — and seem to be intent on doing again this year — is extort billions of dollars from the pockets of ordinary Americans through what amounts to a tax on a staple we all need: eggs,” the letter states. “They did so without any legitimate business justification. They did so because there is no “reasonable substitute” for a carton of eggs. They did so because they had power and weren’t afraid to use it.”
excess-profits tax, a tax levied on profits in excess of a stipulated standard of “normal” income. There are two principles governing the determination of excess profits. One, known as the war-profits principle, is designed to recapture wartime increases in income over normal peacetime profits of the taxpayer. The other, identified as the high-profits principle, is based on income in excess of some statutory rate of return on invested capital.[/quote
Eggs are a cheaper source of protein than most other methods, so being dismissive and rude about it is rude, and to do so unprompted is dickish
I wasn't being dismissive and rude about eggs and people who like them, I was being dismissive and rude about the letter that Lanz posted which definitely said eggs are a necessity for all Americans and there are no substitutes, which are both factually incorrect.
Quick Google says a dozen eggs costs $2 and gives 12 servings of 6g of protein, 72g/$2
1 lbs of black beans is $1.5 and gives 13 servings of 8g of protein, 104g/$1.5
So I guess I disagree with them being a cheaper source of protein, as well
As a person that hates eggs, I think it's pretty crazy to say every American needs eggs and there are no reasonable substitute for eggs.
Even if you ignore the JUST EGG mung bean replacement shit or the tofu+turmeric scramble, or your aquafaba, etc.
You can also replace eggs with nothing. I do this all the time and I'm fine! Well,,, I okay. Errr, some days are okay at least!
They're rather important for baking, which is the main thing I use them in. (Yes, there are still other options, but)
Their importance in baking is actually wildly overstated. There are a small handful of things that they’re “necessary” for, but we’re talking like… meringue, and French style macarons. There are perfectly fine substitutes in 99% of other baked goods, without even getting into any of the specific “egg substitutes” like Just Egg or Ener-G Egg Replacer.
Source: I own a vegan bakery
THAT SAID, they (used to be) a pretty complete meal and a great source of protein at a price point that was hard to beat for folks on a budget. I just did the math and at my local store, the price per egg/“egg” is now exactly at parity between real eggs and Just Egg.
Now, Just Egg has gotten cheaper over the last couple of years, but not THAT cheap. So that’s kind of absurd.
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Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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An agency writing about why the price gouging of eggs is a big problem is probably not going to undercut their point by going "but who needs eggs, right?"
Eggs are a cheaper source of protein than most other methods, so being dismissive and rude about it is rude, and to do so unprompted is dickish
I wasn't being dismissive and rude about eggs and people who like them, I was being dismissive and rude about the letter that Lanz posted which definitely said eggs are a necessity for all Americans and there are no substitutes, which are both factually incorrect.
Quick Google says a dozen eggs costs $2 and gives 12 servings of 6g of protein, 72g/$2
1 lbs of black beans is $1.5 and gives 13 servings of 8g of protein, 104g/$1.5
So I guess I disagree with them being a cheaper source of protein, as well
Side note: I have eggs in my fridge right now, so
It’s also a lot easier (and faster) for most people to cook up a few eggs than to make a meal from dry beans.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
I think looking at something that is, for most people, a staple pantry food, and saying "well technically you don't HAVE to eat this" is either being pointlessly persnickety, or running weird interference for the egg cartels. Like I definitely don't have to eat bread, lotta people don't, but there's a reason bread prices were a direct cause of the french revolution.
I don't see running defense for the industry as much as "well, I don't like eggs and I don't know why anyone would, so what does it matter if they cost more?"
... also as a result of this thread I really want eggs now, maybe I'll get some on the way home.
I don't see running defense for the industry as much as "well, I don't like eggs and I don't know why anyone would, so what does it matter if they cost more?"
Eggs are a cheaper source of protein than most other methods, so being dismissive and rude about it is rude, and to do so unprompted is dickish
I wasn't being dismissive and rude about eggs and people who like them, I was being dismissive and rude about the letter that Lanz posted which definitely said eggs are a necessity for all Americans and there are no substitutes, which are both factually incorrect.
Quick Google says a dozen eggs costs $2 and gives 12 servings of 6g of protein, 72g/$2
1 lbs of black beans is $1.5 and gives 13 servings of 8g of protein, 104g/$1.5
So I guess I disagree with them being a cheaper source of protein, as well
Eggs are a cheaper source of protein than most other methods, so being dismissive and rude about it is rude, and to do so unprompted is dickish
I wasn't being dismissive and rude about eggs and people who like them, I was being dismissive and rude about the letter that Lanz posted which definitely said eggs are a necessity for all Americans and there are no substitutes, which are both factually incorrect.
Quick Google says a dozen eggs costs $2 and gives 12 servings of 6g of protein, 72g/$2
1 lbs of black beans is $1.5 and gives 13 servings of 8g of protein, 104g/$1.5
So I guess I disagree with them being a cheaper source of protein, as well
Side note: I have eggs in my fridge right now, so
This dude has never made anything from beans.
I buy canned, generally, but I did make a nice split pea soup last weekend. Sweated some onions and celery, then tossed in some roasted garlic, removed both, threw in some "European style bacon" I needed to use up until it had some crunchy bits in the Dutch oven, deglazed with a small cuo of shitty red wine, threw everything back in with the peas and some veggie stock, simmered for maybe 2 hours.
Pretty good stuff!
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I’m more shocked that two dollars or considered expensive for eggs. They have never been below like five dollars a carton here.
I’m more shocked that two dollars or considered expensive for eggs. They have never been below like five dollars a carton here.
$2 was a more typical price for eggs before recent hikes. Right now the cheapest eggs I can get at the closest grocery store are $4.59 a dozen for just plain old large white eggs. You used to be able to buy cage-free/organic/antibiotic-free eggs for that price.
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I’m more shocked that two dollars or considered expensive for eggs. They have never been below like five dollars a carton here.
Agricultural products are bonkers cheap in the US because food self-sufficiency was considered a strategic concern during the Cold War, and the calculations included most of the cropland in the industrial Midwest being irradiated and useless. So it was a no-brainer for every budget to shovel more money on the subsidy pile for half a century and for the government to actively buy any surplus we couldn't export. And since Americans all have this national boner for farmers and cowboys, repealing any farm subsidy once it's in place is political suicide. (see also: Government Cheese Caves and bulking out gasoline with corn ethanol.)
I’m more shocked that two dollars or considered expensive for eggs. They have never been below like five dollars a carton here.
Agricultural products are bonkers cheap in the US because food self-sufficiency was considered a strategic concern during the Cold War, and the calculations included most of the cropland in the industrial Midwest being irradiated and useless. So it was a no-brainer for every budget to shovel more money on the subsidy pile for half a century and for the government to actively buy any surplus we couldn't export. And since Americans all have this national boner for farmers and cowboys, repealing any farm subsidy once it's in place is political suicide. (see also: Government Cheese Caves and bulking out gasoline with corn ethanol.)
well, that and there's like zero safety standards or health inspections or environmental standards you have to adhere to, or ...
Plus there's a lot of cost-cutting methods in industrial farming implemented precisely to keep prices low, at the expense of things like shelf-life or consumer safety.
(visiting the egg farms of southern Georgia is a quick road to buying local free range eggs for the rest of your life)
The chicken vaccines plant I worked at in Kansas made vaccines for chickens in Brazil, and Russia, and were not allowed to sell to American farmers, which made me feel a little better about things at least
I don't see running defense for the industry as much as "well, I don't like eggs and I don't know why anyone would, so what does it matter if they cost more?"
... also as a result of this thread I really want eggs now, maybe I'll get some on the way home.
I ended up reserving some of the raw ingredients and some of the cooked shredded chicken to make a basic pasta sauce for my 6yo nephew, because the ragu has a whole bottle of wine in it (for 8 servings but still) and the recipe explicitly states 'if you can't have alcohol, make something else'. Probably would have been ok but figured better to be sure.
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So that’s why egg prices have gone up
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Astronaut with a gun: it’s all price gouging
https://thebaynet.com/farm-action-calls-for-ftc-to-investigate-record-high-egg-prices/
Reuters has now picked up the story so might gain some traction:
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/high-egg-prices-should-be-investigated-us-farm-group-says-2023-01-20/
Even if you ignore the JUST EGG mung bean replacement shit or the tofu+turmeric scramble, or your aquafaba, etc.
You can also replace eggs with nothing. I do this all the time and I'm fine! Well,,, I okay. Errr, some days are okay at least!
They're rather important for baking, which is the main thing I use them in. (Yes, there are still other options, but)
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I wasn't being dismissive and rude about eggs and people who like them, I was being dismissive and rude about the letter that Lanz posted which definitely said eggs are a necessity for all Americans and there are no substitutes, which are both factually incorrect.
Quick Google says a dozen eggs costs $2 and gives 12 servings of 6g of protein, 72g/$2
1 lbs of black beans is $1.5 and gives 13 servings of 8g of protein, 104g/$1.5
So I guess I disagree with them being a cheaper source of protein, as well
Side note: I have eggs in my fridge right now, so
Their importance in baking is actually wildly overstated. There are a small handful of things that they’re “necessary” for, but we’re talking like… meringue, and French style macarons. There are perfectly fine substitutes in 99% of other baked goods, without even getting into any of the specific “egg substitutes” like Just Egg or Ener-G Egg Replacer.
Source: I own a vegan bakery
THAT SAID, they (used to be) a pretty complete meal and a great source of protein at a price point that was hard to beat for folks on a budget. I just did the math and at my local store, the price per egg/“egg” is now exactly at parity between real eggs and Just Egg.
Now, Just Egg has gotten cheaper over the last couple of years, but not THAT cheap. So that’s kind of absurd.
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It’s also a lot easier (and faster) for most people to cook up a few eggs than to make a meal from dry beans.
... also as a result of this thread I really want eggs now, maybe I'll get some on the way home.
well see that would be insanely solipsistic
This dude has never made anything from beans.
I buy canned, generally, but I did make a nice split pea soup last weekend. Sweated some onions and celery, then tossed in some roasted garlic, removed both, threw in some "European style bacon" I needed to use up until it had some crunchy bits in the Dutch oven, deglazed with a small cuo of shitty red wine, threw everything back in with the peas and some veggie stock, simmered for maybe 2 hours.
Pretty good stuff!
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Well yeah, getting eggs from the warbirds one deals with in Australia is expensive and deadly work
Then some Mrs Dash Southwest seasoning and smoky chipotle hot sauce
Fuck yeah
$2 was a more typical price for eggs before recent hikes. Right now the cheapest eggs I can get at the closest grocery store are $4.59 a dozen for just plain old large white eggs. You used to be able to buy cage-free/organic/antibiotic-free eggs for that price.
Agricultural products are bonkers cheap in the US because food self-sufficiency was considered a strategic concern during the Cold War, and the calculations included most of the cropland in the industrial Midwest being irradiated and useless. So it was a no-brainer for every budget to shovel more money on the subsidy pile for half a century and for the government to actively buy any surplus we couldn't export. And since Americans all have this national boner for farmers and cowboys, repealing any farm subsidy once it's in place is political suicide. (see also: Government Cheese Caves and bulking out gasoline with corn ethanol.)
well, that and there's like zero safety standards or health inspections or environmental standards you have to adhere to, or ...
Plus there's a lot of cost-cutting methods in industrial farming implemented precisely to keep prices low, at the expense of things like shelf-life or consumer safety.
(visiting the egg farms of southern Georgia is a quick road to buying local free range eggs for the rest of your life)
I gotta really make some ajitama again soon:
THIS IS THE BEST FORM OF EGG
THERE IS NO BETTER EGG
My go to brand of free range eggs, size 7, which I think is a large egg in the US, a dozen of them are currently $11.80 at the store.
Based on the current exchange rate, that's about $7.64 USD.
Now we're having our egg shortages down here as well, but for completely different reasons than the US.
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Zero thawed meat or plant protein, hmm
Sweet potaters
Leftover butternut squash
Half a yellow onion
Carrots
Bell peppers
Tomatoes
Cucumber
Avocado
Cilantro
Salad greens for days
Garbanzo, pinto, black, kidney beans
Quinoa, cousy cous, lentils, rice
Hmmmmm couple ways to play this
I could go with a sauté with the peppers and onion and tomatoes
I could go with a root veggie roast
I could also make pico or salsa but I don’t have any hot pepps
Hmmmm
I think it’ll be roasted root veg in a bowl with quinoa and baby spinach…and turmeric toasted chickpeas?
I ended up reserving some of the raw ingredients and some of the cooked shredded chicken to make a basic pasta sauce for my 6yo nephew, because the ragu has a whole bottle of wine in it (for 8 servings but still) and the recipe explicitly states 'if you can't have alcohol, make something else'. Probably would have been ok but figured better to be sure.
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One more thing going into the column labeled "move back out into the country and get off the grid cause none of this shit is gonna make it"
I know plenty of people who have urban/suburban chickens, and they all really love having them.