With CP being mission based I'm curious as to how it will affect detachments.
I'd be fine seeing them go away entirely, and move towards an AoS style system where you're just required to have X number of troop choices based on how many points you're playing, and otherwise just play what you want.
Hey, people. Can I ask for some advice vis-à-vis carrying cases? I'd like to store my Grey Knights in one case, but I've got
1xNemesis Dreadknight
1xLand Raider
1xRazorback
1xDreadnought
40x Grey Knights in Power Armour
15x Grey Knights Terminators
1x Grand Master Voldus
so I was wondering which case would accomodate them all. Any suggestions?
Yes and no do you want to lug it around? Or do the sheets of metal and magnet the bottoms of the minis?
You could get one of the Rubbermaid/plano containers and a bunch of foam with some sheets of plastic to make dividers foam to stop the minis from piling up and protecting them for each other
I don't want to do the sheets of metal with magnets as I have a problem my tyranid army is well over 200+ minis {most of it is termagants/hormogaunts} I do need to set up the container I got for them as it was my goal to paint at least 50% of them this summer
Yes I want to lug them around, but I was hoping for something a little more expertly made than a DIY solution.
Still, @italianranma , I'd appreciate any tips, esp. regarding magnetizing.
Well I was going to offer pistol cases but that would be for a different era
You can get the Plano tool box for about $20 or so since the land raider is a 3X6X7 block I know DiY is not the ideal but I feel it's better than seeing people lug around a mix of boxes to hold their army {I really did bring my pistol case of eldar on my bike to the GW store to both show them off and play a few games last summer
The case was too large to put in my backpack and people at the store did ask if I thought about replacing it since that type of box is frowned upon in general society
Hey, people. Can I ask for some advice vis-à-vis carrying cases? I'd like to store my Grey Knights in one case, but I've got
1xNemesis Dreadknight
1xLand Raider
1xRazorback
1xDreadnought
40x Grey Knights in Power Armour
15x Grey Knights Terminators
1x Grand Master Voldus
so I was wondering which case would accomodate them all. Any suggestions?
You can buy like a $20 Home Depot toolbox (it will be a bit heavy though, this is like one of the large metal ones) and magnetize your models, everything should fit using the top tray for infantry and the deep inner tool bin area for vehicles and tall things. It's what I do and works quite well for a low price.
Alternatively many companies sell tray based magnetic carrying cases that are this idea taken to a more polished end at a higher price. Mangarack and A-Case are two I've heard recommended heavily.
Magnetic carrying solutions are the best for space and safety of your models IMHO.
Man, as much as I hate to recommend them, GW's cases are pretty nice. They are grossly overpriced, but I am able to fit a ton of models in a crusade case.
The major downside is that if you're rocking a S4 or above army you won't be able to get as much in there since you'll have to lay a lot of your models sideways, but still. I've carried space marine armies with a Land Raider, two Stormtalons, a bunch of Dreadnoughts, and some infantry and while it was snug it worked.
The skirmish case is also perfect for something like Killteam or Warcry/Underworlds/Etc.
I don't like the crusade case
I got one a few years ago on ebay and I put away my falcons,vypers and most of my jet bikes in it Just putting away the wraithguard {I have 5 of the old metal weights and a bunch of the new plastic} but like many of the new eldar I don't trust putting it away in the case as a sword might snap off or I don't even know what to do about Ynnead
I've found cases with foam just don't work for some armies... I can throw my primaris into any case and they're snug and safe.
Nids, flesh eater courts, some ork stuff, basically anything with little poky bits just does not get along with foam cases unless it's custom fit.
I've got a couple different sizes of clear plastic totes I got off amazon for cheap, lined with metal sheets (again, cheap) and just magnetized all my mini bases. Was safer for models with little bits that snap off, even though it doesn't look as snazzy as a GW or other 3rd party case.
I actually attached a metal plate to the top of one of the totes for oversize models like knights, hive tyrants, etc.
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My Tyranids have lived in a Battlefoam 1520xl for over 5 years. Some laser cut trays, some pluck foam. Nothing has ever caught and broken.
I’ve recently ordered some custom trays specifically for what I have because it’s super space efficient, but I’ve never had issues with foam for Tyranids.
Well, like I said... Foam is bad for some armies unless it's custom fit.
I'd love to get a battlefoam case but, here in Canada at least, they're super spendy.
Edit - Ugh... talk of battlefoam led to me looking at the battlefoam site. It's been a while but holy jeez. A pack 352 with magna rack shipped to Canada is five hundred and five of our maple flavoured dollars after shipping and exchange. No thanks... I'll stick with my plastic totes and magnets and buy a PS5 when they release.
I went to a tournament a couple years ago and played vs a guy who brought his ork boys in tupperware containers, and just had them sorted in piles by type.
I went to a tournament a couple years ago and played vs a guy who brought his ork boys in tupperware containers, and just had them sorted in piles by type.
It hurt my heart.
Sounds like the Ork way to transport things.
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Hah, the last AoS tournament I went to I played against a tzeentch player who kept all their horrors separated in big mason jars. For little stuff like that, where it's all plastic and varnished, it's not really going to get all that damaged.
With CP being mission based I'm curious as to how it will affect detachments.
I'd be fine seeing them go away entirely, and move towards an AoS style system where you're just required to have X number of troop choices based on how many points you're playing, and otherwise just play what you want.
One rumour/interpration I've seen is that they cost CP after the first, same as a second codex. So there's still a lot of value in troops as they unlock big detachments with lots of stuff, but if you wanted something more specialised then you can go for one of those and just have a little bit of things from elsewhere.
Compared to admech yesterday, today's chaos knight rules seem tame.
To be fair, the Admech codex was one of the first ones to be releasted in 8th edition. I think GW were still finding their feet with the earlier codexes because it's fairly generic / tame in terms of warlord traits and a bunch of stratagems.
Engine war is nearly adding as many units to what the range had back then (10+ units?).
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Compared to admech yesterday, today's chaos knight rules seem tame.
To be fair, the Admech codex was one of the first ones to be releasted in 8th edition. I think GW were still finding their feet with the earlier codexes because it's fairly generic / tame in terms of warlord traits and a bunch of stratagems.
Engine war is nearly adding as many units to what the range had back then (10+ units?).
Yeah basically all the AdMech warlord traits are hot garbage. The only ones that really get used are the regen CP, the Mars trait if running Cawl, and the Vigilus trait that lets you sac Servitiors to bring back Kataphrons.
There aren't actually any strict rules about base sizes. Events will typically go with "use the base the model currently comes with", but that's just a guideline.
That's the official GW rule, whatever base the model came with is fine.
Yep, GW made it pretty straight and clear so that people knew what to do with the size change over. So I don't need to rebase all of my old sisters of battle, but I can't put the new ones on 25mm bases either. It's pretty simple.
I have some orks on 28mm bases and others on the 35mm. But i think i have far more boyz than i do from a foggy memory. As why do i have 40 of the old one piece grot and 16 of the new. I did buy someone's army on ebay a couple of years ago about 40 orks 3 killa kans a truck and a deff dread but in a box i found a very full sandwich bag full of parts i had. I really need to organize and catalog what i have
I'm really torn on my Orks, because while I have some of my Boys on 25s and some on 32s, they just look so much better on 32s. I hate it when a model's feet are sticking over the edge of its base.
But, having a horde assault army on 32s instead of 25s seems like I am handicapping myself.
I'm really torn on my Orks, because while I have some of my Boys on 25s and some on 32s, they just look so much better on 32s. I hate it when a model's feet are sticking over the edge of its base.
But, having a horde assault army on 32s instead of 25s seems like I am handicapping myself.
Well i did buy the apoc movement bases for my tyranid swarm
I'm really torn on my Orks, because while I have some of my Boys on 25s and some on 32s, they just look so much better on 32s. I hate it when a model's feet are sticking over the edge of its base.
But, having a horde assault army on 32s instead of 25s seems like I am handicapping myself.
Almost every major tournament mandates 32's for Orks, if you plan on attending any at all.
I've been rebasing my Sisters, third party vendors make products in a few different styles to transform a 25mm base into a 32mm base without having to scrap the whole thing.
Built a Dark Apostle tonight. Dude is on a big ass base. I had been running my proxy on a 32. This is much better for his abilities.
How big is the Dark Apostle compared to a regular CSM? I always thought he looked kind of small, but maybe he's just normal sized and his base is big
He is bigger. Taller than the new marines even. He takes up a good bit of the 40mm base.
He is the grey guy in the center since it is unprimed yet.
Also everything from the havocs through the CSM are within the 6" bubble to get a 5++ from a prayer. I was actually super impressed on how much you can cover with the model.
Did they break the knee on the blank one and photoshopped some shadow over it?
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Re: cases: My issue with magnetic cases is flight. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine having your magnet tray case tossed around by an airline loader is going to be great. The models would slide around and possibly come unattached then go on a buzzsaw rampage of your other models as it got jostled around in flight.
Re: cases: My issue with magnetic cases is flight. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine having your magnet tray case tossed around by an airline loader is going to be great. The models would slide around and possibly come unattached then go on a buzzsaw rampage of your other models as it got jostled around in flight.
Maybe a magnetic case, then line the walls of it with cork board to provide some cushioning for loose models while not worrying about it snagging on pointy bits.
Might look into some plastic divider walls to limit the amount they can shift if they do get jostled out of contact with the magnetic bit to prevent a full buzz saw rampage, but still not avoid foam snagging on pointy bits. Those ones look like you could fit them to for larger models or smaller ones. Bonus, they could serve as impromptu board scenery in a pinch.
Using some stronger rare earth magnets can help minimize the chances of something coming loose, but can make it tougher to pull them out of your tray, going to be trade offs.
But, you're absolutely correct. Shipping fragile stuff in your checked baggage is asking for bad times. If you can reduce your army to something that can be a magnetized carry-on, that'd be the best way to go I'd think.
-End of True LOS
-Kind of a mix of 4th/5th edition style terrain
-Terrain gets keywords
-Hordes get worse
-Combat is different and so is movement
-MSU and tough MSU are very good
-Most armies are a solo battalion/brigade not multiple
-CP penalty for soup isn't huge
-Outflanks will help mitigate alpha strikes
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I'd be fine seeing them go away entirely, and move towards an AoS style system where you're just required to have X number of troop choices based on how many points you're playing, and otherwise just play what you want.
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Well I was going to offer pistol cases but that would be for a different era
You can get the Plano tool box for about $20 or so since the land raider is a 3X6X7 block I know DiY is not the ideal but I feel it's better than seeing people lug around a mix of boxes to hold their army {I really did bring my pistol case of eldar on my bike to the GW store to both show them off and play a few games last summer
The case was too large to put in my backpack and people at the store did ask if I thought about replacing it since that type of box is frowned upon in general society
You can buy like a $20 Home Depot toolbox (it will be a bit heavy though, this is like one of the large metal ones) and magnetize your models, everything should fit using the top tray for infantry and the deep inner tool bin area for vehicles and tall things. It's what I do and works quite well for a low price.
Alternatively many companies sell tray based magnetic carrying cases that are this idea taken to a more polished end at a higher price. Mangarack and A-Case are two I've heard recommended heavily.
Magnetic carrying solutions are the best for space and safety of your models IMHO.
The major downside is that if you're rocking a S4 or above army you won't be able to get as much in there since you'll have to lay a lot of your models sideways, but still. I've carried space marine armies with a Land Raider, two Stormtalons, a bunch of Dreadnoughts, and some infantry and while it was snug it worked.
The skirmish case is also perfect for something like Killteam or Warcry/Underworlds/Etc.
I got one a few years ago on ebay and I put away my falcons,vypers and most of my jet bikes in it Just putting away the wraithguard {I have 5 of the old metal weights and a bunch of the new plastic} but like many of the new eldar I don't trust putting it away in the case as a sword might snap off or I don't even know what to do about Ynnead
Nids, flesh eater courts, some ork stuff, basically anything with little poky bits just does not get along with foam cases unless it's custom fit.
I've got a couple different sizes of clear plastic totes I got off amazon for cheap, lined with metal sheets (again, cheap) and just magnetized all my mini bases. Was safer for models with little bits that snap off, even though it doesn't look as snazzy as a GW or other 3rd party case.
I actually attached a metal plate to the top of one of the totes for oversize models like knights, hive tyrants, etc.
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I’ve recently ordered some custom trays specifically for what I have because it’s super space efficient, but I’ve never had issues with foam for Tyranids.
I'd love to get a battlefoam case but, here in Canada at least, they're super spendy.
Edit - Ugh... talk of battlefoam led to me looking at the battlefoam site. It's been a while but holy jeez. A pack 352 with magna rack shipped to Canada is five hundred and five of our maple flavoured dollars after shipping and exchange. No thanks... I'll stick with my plastic totes and magnets and buy a PS5 when they release.
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But I also haven’t had a broken model since I started using which is a win for me.
It hurt my heart.
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Sounds like the Ork way to transport things.
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One rumour/interpration I've seen is that they cost CP after the first, same as a second codex. So there's still a lot of value in troops as they unlock big detachments with lots of stuff, but if you wanted something more specialised then you can go for one of those and just have a little bit of things from elsewhere.
To answer my own question (partially): I looked in the 2019 Kill Team Annual, and there's no mention of it there that I can find.
But when I google it or reading goonhammer, they say max 1. Am I missing something, or are they relying on an older, outdated source?
Then I'm just not going to bother with the kill team at all. Saved money, at least.
Current Iconoclast/Infernal Household rules are called "Ambitions" and these are called bonds.
If so then they are not bad. The base Chaos Knight abilities are just so good anyway.
To be fair, the Admech codex was one of the first ones to be releasted in 8th edition. I think GW were still finding their feet with the earlier codexes because it's fairly generic / tame in terms of warlord traits and a bunch of stratagems.
Engine war is nearly adding as many units to what the range had back then (10+ units?).
Yeah basically all the AdMech warlord traits are hot garbage. The only ones that really get used are the regen CP, the Mars trait if running Cawl, and the Vigilus trait that lets you sac Servitiors to bring back Kataphrons.
Yep, GW made it pretty straight and clear so that people knew what to do with the size change over. So I don't need to rebase all of my old sisters of battle, but I can't put the new ones on 25mm bases either. It's pretty simple.
But, having a horde assault army on 32s instead of 25s seems like I am handicapping myself.
Well i did buy the apoc movement bases for my tyranid swarm
Almost every major tournament mandates 32's for Orks, if you plan on attending any at all.
How big is the Dark Apostle compared to a regular CSM? I always thought he looked kind of small, but maybe he's just normal sized and his base is big
He is bigger. Taller than the new marines even. He takes up a good bit of the 40mm base.
He is the grey guy in the center since it is unprimed yet.
Also everything from the havocs through the CSM are within the 6" bubble to get a 5++ from a prayer. I was actually super impressed on how much you can cover with the model.
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And they will have a blank one nearly impossible to find!
Maybe a magnetic case, then line the walls of it with cork board to provide some cushioning for loose models while not worrying about it snagging on pointy bits.
Might look into some plastic divider walls to limit the amount they can shift if they do get jostled out of contact with the magnetic bit to prevent a full buzz saw rampage, but still not avoid foam snagging on pointy bits. Those ones look like you could fit them to for larger models or smaller ones. Bonus, they could serve as impromptu board scenery in a pinch.
Using some stronger rare earth magnets can help minimize the chances of something coming loose, but can make it tougher to pull them out of your tray, going to be trade offs.
But, you're absolutely correct. Shipping fragile stuff in your checked baggage is asking for bad times. If you can reduce your army to something that can be a magnetized carry-on, that'd be the best way to go I'd think.
Some big things:
-End of True LOS
-Kind of a mix of 4th/5th edition style terrain
-Terrain gets keywords
-Hordes get worse
-Combat is different and so is movement
-MSU and tough MSU are very good
-Most armies are a solo battalion/brigade not multiple
-CP penalty for soup isn't huge
-Outflanks will help mitigate alpha strikes
So yeah seems big.
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