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[Heroes of the Storm] thread: Don't get excited, Dibby; we're just talking.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited June 2020
    "we want a new map" everyone says

    "okay" says blizzard, as a finger on the monkey paw curls down

    a year later (because that's how long it takes now), blizzard comes out with a new patch for heroes of the storm. announcing a new map!

    ....the return of haunted mines.

    :hydra:

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Three new versions of mines!

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    edited June 2020
    Dibby wrote: »
    we had 10 new posts in this thread and i thought the hero announcement happened

    smdh y'all

    Bruh, I'm just trying to get people to talk about HotS so the thread doesn't wither and die.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    we had 10 new posts in this thread and i thought the hero announcement happened

    smdh y'all

    Bruh, I'm just trying to get people to talk about HotS so the thread doesn't wither and die.

    I tried that with my last relationship and it didn't work.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    we had 10 new posts in this thread and i thought the hero announcement happened

    smdh y'all

    Bruh, I'm just trying to get people to talk about HotS so the thread doesn't wither and die.

    literally the thread dies every single time you stop posting. this is a true fact full stop. i can make all the dibby posts in the world and it'll get next to no traffic and then ducks comes in all like "talk about hots for me, peasants" and we get literally more activity in the thread in one day than in a full week

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    I'd like to start organizing nights and times when we can all try to log on and group up. I miss hanging out with people. Every time I log on, I might have a dozen friends playing: a few are together in a group over here; a few are together in a group over there; a couple are doing custom matches; maybe one or two are doing Brawls; then there's always like one dude going solo queue in Storm League. Motherfuckers, let's group up!

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Join NGS, we group up as five multiple times a week lol

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    edited June 2020
    It's not my thing, man. I'm supportive of it, and I have a lot of friends who participate, but I'm not on board with everything I see out of that organization. Additionally, just frankly, I don't have that kind of time; Classic WoW has me raiding a lot, and with AQ40 to be announced relatively soon, it's only going to get more time-consuming. I'm hoping that we're able to clear MC/BWL so quickly by the time AQ40 comes out that we can finish them both on like a Thursday night, and focus Sunday/ Monday on progression in AQ40 until we're clearing that comfortably, too.

    And then there's the podcast. I've actually had to sign out of BWL this Sunday (which I hate) because I'm needed in the studio that night for the first episode back after restrictions have lifted.

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    SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    Unless my IRL friends are on, i always go "qm anyone?" in the heroes of the wang. Usually there is 0-3 people in it, and usually it's ignored.

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    tyrantula22tyrantula22 Registered User regular
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Unless my IRL friends are on, i always go "qm anyone?" in the heroes of the wang. Usually there is 0-3 people in it, and usually it's ignored.

    Yeah, that channel is basically dead. I don't think i've seen more than 3 people in it in basically forever, and even if there are no one speaks in it. Granted I'm guilty of that myself too though.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
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    Well it finally happened. I came across a teammate, who not only last picked Gazlowe with our existing comp, but also didn't soak or push a lane at all. I mean, sure, I was soak God (and Tass grabbed an empty lane when needed), but damn, I have never met a Gazlowe that just wanted to fight with the Tank/Healer in mid most of the time.

    I honestly think the winning moment in the game came when my team and the enemy team were fighting for almost 2 minutes over the bot shrine Tower while I just soaked mid/top. Nobody on my team complained or pinged for help. Hell, they were probably too focused on fighting. After the enemy team claimed the tower, we were up 10-8.

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    WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    Does anyone else think Qhira should've just been Nat Pagle with a combat fishing pole?

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    I didn't until now.

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    SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Unless my IRL friends are on, i always go "qm anyone?" in the heroes of the wang. Usually there is 0-3 people in it, and usually it's ignored.

    Yeah, that channel is basically dead. I don't think i've seen more than 3 people in it in basically forever, and even if there are no one speaks in it. Granted I'm guilty of that myself too though.

    I think some people have straight up left the channel

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I had been referring to balance with regard to objective strength (Cursed Hollow first objective routinely claims 2 Forts,
    In my experience the Cursed Hollow first objective never takes out anything. Only the third, fourth, or fifth one does. :)

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Sorry, Dibby. My internet went out a few minutes into that second match, and it still hasn't come back on. :/

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I had been referring to balance with regard to objective strength (Cursed Hollow first objective routinely claims 2 Forts,
    In my experience the Cursed Hollow first objective never takes out anything. Only the third, fourth, or fifth one does. :)

    My bad, I actually said the wrong map; meant Garden of Terror.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I had been referring to balance with regard to objective strength (Cursed Hollow first objective routinely claims 2 Forts,
    In my experience the Cursed Hollow first objective never takes out anything. Only the third, fourth, or fifth one does. :)

    My bad, I actually said the wrong map; meant Garden of Terror.

    He’s going to make the exact. Same. Joke.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I had been referring to balance with regard to objective strength (Cursed Hollow first objective routinely claims 2 Forts,
    In my experience the Cursed Hollow first objective never takes out anything. Only the third, fourth, or fifth one does. :)

    My bad, I actually said the wrong map; meant Garden of Terror.

    He’s going to make the exact. Same. Joke.
    Well now I don't have to.

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Sorry, Dibby. My internet went out a few minutes into that second match, and it still hasn't come back on. :/

    No worries homie, your Mephisto AI was a champ

    And by champ I mean he followed me like a confused puppy and literally wouldn't press buttons and only did auto attacks and tried to cast Consume Souls on Murky because Murky got low and then Bubbled immediately

    HOO BOY THAT AI IS BADDDD

    It's cool though honestly we were gonna lose that game regardless, our Varian fed like a motherfucker

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    I swear this is the single worst implementation of the HotS AI they've EVER had though. I swear to GOD. Even the previous jank-ass implementation was better than this!

    I'd love to know what the fuck HAPPENED to make it turn out so god awful. I'd LOVE to fucking know. We went from bad to worse and it blows my fucking mind. After all that hyping up of the new AI systems and how they're "going to combo you to death" and the end result is they act like a confused puppy on a very short leash. I'm doing mercs and this FUCKING AI just stands there spinning in circles only occasionally tossing out autos!

    I swear to god the AI implementation at the very beginning of this game's lifespan was BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. Remember like when there was the fuckin', the Elite AI or whatever? And they basically had fucking maphacks and godmode and shit and like PRECOGNITION insofar as landing and dodging skillshots? That AI was goddamn insane. And yet they were too afraid to actually put that in outside of VS AI games? Like oh noooo the Elite AI is too good oh nooooo it'd ruin gamessss oh noooo. Man who GIVES A SHIT yknow what else ruins games? People leaving the fucking game and insta-losing because every fight is an instant 5v4.

    How the FUCK did it get so bad??? Literally reverting these most recent changes would be an improvement at this point.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    I still don't understand why they bothered updating the AI at all...

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    DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    I still don't understand why they bothered updating the AI at all...

    Because it was really really fucking bad before, that's why

    They just managed to botch it beyond belief and make it even worse

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    It actually is really bad, yeah. Thankfully I very rarely have AI on my team, but woosh

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    What I mean is that the AI was fine for years, and then they decided to change it. That first update is what I am questioning, not everything that happened after that.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    I can't go my 3 weekly ARAM games without getting an AI on my team in at least one game, at least for part of the match.

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    General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    I swear this is the single worst implementation of the HotS AI they've EVER had though. I swear to GOD. Even the previous jank-ass implementation was better than this!

    I'd love to know what the fuck HAPPENED to make it turn out so god awful. I'd LOVE to fucking know. We went from bad to worse and it blows my fucking mind. After all that hyping up of the new AI systems and how they're "going to combo you to death" and the end result is they act like a confused puppy on a very short leash. I'm doing mercs and this FUCKING AI just stands there spinning in circles only occasionally tossing out autos!

    I swear to god the AI implementation at the very beginning of this game's lifespan was BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. Remember like when there was the fuckin', the Elite AI or whatever? And they basically had fucking maphacks and godmode and shit and like PRECOGNITION insofar as landing and dodging skillshots? That AI was goddamn insane. And yet they were too afraid to actually put that in outside of VS AI games? Like oh noooo the Elite AI is too good oh nooooo it'd ruin gamessss oh noooo. Man who GIVES A SHIT yknow what else ruins games? People leaving the fucking game and insta-losing because every fight is an instant 5v4.

    How the FUCK did it get so bad??? Literally reverting these most recent changes would be an improvement at this point.

    I miss the "good" AI. They'd gank you and steal the merc camp that you were clearing if you weren't careful, and they'd clear their own merc camps like clockwork. Granted that clockwork behavior made them predictable for a competent team, but most teams in both matches aren't super competent so it just made the fights more challenging overall on a macro level and players to pay attention to the merc camps since the bots were using them to good effect.

    Also, the way that skillshots would roll off of them like water on oil made it really satisfying to land skill shots against them.

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    Eh, the AI would leave objectives and team fights to go hunt down the Rexxar doing a camp on the other side of the map without scouting him, so that part I don’t miss.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    forty wrote: »
    I can't go my 3 weekly ARAM games without getting an AI on my team in at least one game, at least for part of the match.

    Ah, I don't ARAM, maybe it's more common there.

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    FremFrem Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    "we want a new map" everyone says

    "okay" says blizzard, as a finger on the monkey paw curls down

    a year later (because that's how long it takes now), blizzard comes out with a new patch for heroes of the storm. announcing a new map!

    ....the return of haunted mines.

    :hydra:

    what if

    and hear me out

    haunted mines had three floors

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    GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    More is better. Always

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    tyrantula22tyrantula22 Registered User regular
    edited June 2020
    Looks like there's a new little teaser out.



    Edit: Frostwolf Orc maybe? Seems like some people like Durotan for that.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited June 2020
    Looks like it's one of the huts on the orc side of the Alterac map, just zoomed in a bit and with more snow

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    General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Nobody wrote: »
    Eh, the AI would leave objectives and team fights to go hunt down the Rexxar doing a camp on the other side of the map without scouting him, so that part I don’t miss.

    Well, yeah. They were never truly good. But they had the capacity to achieve hivemind state and dunk on someone every now and then. I enjoyed watching that happen. Nowadays the AI like to pick a point on the map and oscillate back and forth around it.

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    GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Isn't there an ice/freezing character in Overwatch?

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    ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited June 2020
    Grove wrote: »
    Isn't there an ice/freezing character in Overwatch?

    Yeah, but her kit in Overwatch is pretty much literally just Jaina.

    Like, her primary fire is Jaina's E. Her RMB is Jaina's Q. Her E is ice block. Her ult is Ring of Frost.

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    I think the teaser's meant to bait folks into thinking Frostfire Ridge (Durotan, perhaps, although I really don't want another pet hero like Rexxar), but it could also easily be Alterac, or even Mount Hyjal.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    It's actually Jainas snowman who has gained sentience. He can only be played with Jaina, kinda Cho gall situation, but it's 2 seperate characters. The Snowman abities only work within a leash range of Jaina and Jaina gets a buff when he's in range.

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