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[Heroes of the Storm] thread: Don't get excited, Dibby; we're just talking.

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    Also 47 (or whatever) sub specs just refers to the talent trees that have been in the game since vanilla, like frost/fire/arcane for mages. 3 specs each (except 4 for druids and 2 for demon hunters) times amount of classes.

    More SL covenant stuff in spoilers:
    Angels utility spell is a little butler that gives you free health potions and lets you change talents and repair anywhere.

    Skeletons utility let you cast a shield on yourself and also the shield is even chunkier if you are standing on a pile of dead enemies.

    Vampire utility gives you a ground target teleport.

    Tree utility gives you a blink that turns you into a magical animal that runs a bit faster than walking speed and has a few more blinks in it before it expires.

    A lot of these are customized by your choice of soulbind or other things. Like the tree animal comes in a variety of skins you can pick. Or the vampire teleport turning either instant cast or having twice the charges.

    @kime, google "night fae plate armor"

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Oh yeah the tree plate set actually slaps unironically because it's a style of plate armour that they just, never do in the game, so it rules to have it available. Very few complaints about the cosmetics.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    This is silly and annoying
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    I was hoping for a easy two themed one for the last couple of days alas no

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    If you play ranked, does it fill all with each game?

    Also, does Varian fill 2 classes?

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    If you play ranked, does it fill all with each game?

    Also, does Varian fill 2 classes?

    He used to as that is why I was annoyed with it since when things like that happened I would play Varian as a tank to knock out both quests

  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Yes, Storm League games fulfill all quest requirements simultaneously.

  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Also 47 (or whatever) sub specs just refers to the talent trees that have been in the game since vanilla, like frost/fire/arcane for mages. 3 specs each (except 4 for druids and 2 for demon hunters) times amount of classes.

    I had been referring to the 12 base classes multiplied by the 4 covenants. I hadn't considered adding the number of talent trees into the equation, but that certainly complicates everything even more lol.

  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Also 47 (or whatever) sub specs just refers to the talent trees that have been in the game since vanilla, like frost/fire/arcane for mages. 3 specs each (except 4 for druids and 2 for demon hunters) times amount of classes.

    I had been referring to the 12 base classes multiplied by the 4 covenants. I hadn't considered adding the number of talent trees into the equation, but that certainly complicates everything even more lol.

    Ah my mistake but yeah. For example in 9.0 tree covenant was best for fire mages, vampire for frost, and skeleton for arcane (for best being defined as biggest numbers), but in 9.1 that shifted to angel for arcane and vampire for fire too.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Been trying out a bunch of NotParadox builds.

    "5 second stun" Uther


    Yrel

    This one is a bit tricky because some talents have been nerfed since the video was made. Dauntless was an auto-pick at 50 armor, but now it's 35. Curious if it's still considered auto-pick.

    But the idea is to jump in, proc Holy Avenger to reduce the jump cooldown to 1 second, attack, instant hammer stun, jump, attack, quick Q. Keep Dauntless up forever, keep stacking spell damage with Velen's Chosen, set up enemies with the hammer and the reduced armor from Templar's Verdict.

    Been having above average success with it, but it really does rely on a team who can quickly take advantage of you hitting the enemy backline into them and killing them while the armor debuff is up. Also you have to get ready for lots of rando teammate bitching because what you contribute doesn't show up that much on the stats screen and they'll do the typical tank blame (low damage, low xp, most deaths).

  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Ended up looking through some old videos last night and came across this match from like 4 years ago. It's just the live audio with @Dibby (on Dehaka) and myself talking through the game. But it was wild to watch back through and realize how much has changed since then. Like I didn't realize structures all had Ammo at that stage. And my own gameplay is really poor. I don't die but I could have multiple times. Made a bunch of mistakes that make me cringe looking back on them, lol. Anyway, thought it would be fun to share --

    https://youtu.be/-UQYpecGrRQ

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    The weird thing is, even though it's QM, there's a diablo on both teams.


    The WEIRDEST thing however, is that Zag exits the nydus from the same direction no matter where you click. Wtffffffffff???!???

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    edited September 2021
    Yeah dude there's a lot of little things like that in the video that I noticed, too, for sure. Minor differences from the modern game, but when you look back on it again, it seems super weird.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Costco employs over 270,000 people with over $166 billion in revenue, of which $21 billion is in gross profit.

    Their CEO, W. Craig Jelinek, is paid less than $1 million and receives under $8 million in total compensation.

    This may sound like a lot, but Activision Blizzard employs just 9,500 people, with over $8 billion in revenue, of which nearly $6 billion is gross profit.

    Their CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid $1.5 million in salary and more than $150 million in total.

    Yes, you read that right. $8 million vs. $150 million.

    I highlight this only to illustrate the sheer greed and gluttony involved when the latter has fired 800 people in 2019 and hundreds more in 2020, in the middle of a global pandemic where they saw record profits (some of which came at the cost of those aforementioned salaries). Costco has employed orders of magnitude more people and not only did not lay people off but provided them additional hazard pay during the pandemic. And yet the CEO of the former makes less than a tenth of the latter, largely due to an inordinate amount of awarded equity - something which incentivizes shitty behavior like firing a bunch of people in order to skew the bottom line for a given fiscal quarter/year.

    By the way, an entry-level position like Junior Developer at Activision Blizzard starts at roughly $40,000 a year. Given the additional education and relative opportunity cost, that is a shit salary. You can start at Costco as a front-end cashier for $16 an hour, which comes with full benefits and the opportunity to work overtime, for a minimum of $33,000. If you assume 4 years of service, you will easily see an income of more than $40,000 a year by the time that junior developer starts their job. All without the additional burden of student loans.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Bobby Kotick could stop receiving any income forever, and his networth would still allow him to spend $40,000 per day for the next 41 years until he was 98 years old.

    He's set for life. The good life. For the rest of his life. With no income. He won.

    And he still mass lays off workers during record profit years in order to squeeze out a little extra money he doesn't need.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    Costco employs over 270,000 people with over $166 billion in revenue, of which $21 billion is in gross profit.

    Their CEO, W. Craig Jelinek, is paid less than $1 million and receives under $8 million in total compensation.

    This may sound like a lot, but Activision Blizzard employs just 9,500 people, with over $8 billion in revenue, of which nearly $6 billion is gross profit.

    Their CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid $1.5 million in salary and more than $150 million in total.

    Yes, you read that right. $8 million vs. $150 million.

    I highlight this only to illustrate the sheer greed and gluttony involved when the latter has fired 800 people in 2019 and hundreds more in 2020, in the middle of a global pandemic where they saw record profits (some of which came at the cost of those aforementioned salaries). Costco has employed orders of magnitude more people and not only did not lay people off but provided them additional hazard pay during the pandemic. And yet the CEO of the former makes less than a tenth of the latter, largely due to an inordinate amount of awarded equity - something which incentivizes shitty behavior like firing a bunch of people in order to skew the bottom line for a given fiscal quarter/year.

    By the way, an entry-level position like Junior Developer at Activision Blizzard starts at roughly $40,000 a year. Given the additional education and relative opportunity cost, that is a shit salary. You can start at Costco as a front-end cashier for $16 an hour, which comes with full benefits and the opportunity to work overtime, for a minimum of $33,000. If you assume 4 years of service, you will easily see an income of more than $40,000 a year by the time that junior developer starts their job. All without the additional burden of student loans.
    I'm not defending Kotick because fuck that guy, but just to be a little more precise about the numbers, Kotick made that much in 2020 specifically. It's not his typical annual compensation. Looking at the "Trend Analysis" on that page, he made significantly less in 2016-2019: like 80% less in those years (still a crazy amount of money, no tiny violins here, and still way more than Costco guy). So 2020 does seem to be an outlier and is quite the curiosity. I am wondering what his 2021 numbers will look like.

    FWIW, no 2020 data for Costco guy yet for some reason, but judging from the trend line it would likely just be some reasonable percentage increase over his 2019 ~$8million haul.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Fuck Bobby Kotick.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Oops! All Capitalism

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    Oh shit we shit-talking Blizz again?


    I got chu:
    https://www.gamebyte.com/activision-blizzard-accused-of-intimidating-employees-and-union-busting


    ed: also if that $40K is in Irvine, that is basically poverty considering cost-of-living in that whole area.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Oh shit we shit-talking Blizz again?


    I got chu:
    https://www.gamebyte.com/activision-blizzard-accused-of-intimidating-employees-and-union-busting


    ed: also if that $40K is in Irvine, that is basically poverty considering cost-of-living in that whole area.

    Can confirm. Used to work in that industry and I had to share an apartment with 4 other guys to be able to barely scrape by. Irvine is ludicrously expensive to live in and most people working at the entry level for them are either living at home or crammed into shared living space arrangements to make ends meet.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    So I hear the Diablo 2 remake launch isn't feeling so well, Mr. Stark.
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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    bro that's a 1000 x 1700 picture :D

  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    I played single player and had no issues. Serves folks right wanting to be social and have friends :P

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    I played HotS for the first time in probably almost two years today.

    QM is still a trashfire. Good ol' HotS

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
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  • DeliciousTacosDeliciousTacos Registered User regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    I played HotS for the first time in probably almost two years today.

    QM is still a trashfire. Good ol' HotS

    It is, but I’m kind of enjoying the game more than I did at its height, because so many of the toxic tryhard players have moved on to newer, hotter games. I remember back when it seemed like 75% of my matches would get decided by which team had the least obnoxious crybaby yelling at them

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    At first, I thought that ETC armor buff to 60 was on any ability. Then I reread it and saw it was from Heroic abilities only, which makes a lot more sense.

    Overall, I feel like this was a fairly light patch. I hope they're cooking up some better stuff and wanted to just get something out now to change things up a bit.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Kael'thas buffs, RIP trash tier/ARAM games.

  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    KTZ buffs -- yeah fuck this game tbh lol

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    I was waiting for ducks to see that part and I was not disappointed.

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    I don't post much here on this thread but I still play this game almost daily. It's fun!

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    To be fair, both the buffs to Kael and KTZ are pretty minor at best.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    To be fair, both the buffs to Kael and KTZ are pretty minor at best.

    They aren’t even buffs to KTZ, talents nobody takes got buffed

    Kael just got a 2 second CDR in his E and 1% more mana recovery on a meh talent

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Kael just got a 2 second CDR in his E and 1% more mana recovery on a meh talent
    And health.

  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    5 straight loss in a row, with the last loss being Blackheart Bay because our own Kharazim did nothing but do camps and hoard the coins. He had over 40 coins by the time of his first death.

    Kept saying the N word in chat too.

    In QM. Pretty sure nothing will happen because blizz doesn't seem to do shit about dead games. Maybe I'll eat the comms ban for cussing the dude out the entire match once it was clear what he was doing, but fucking christ.

  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    I don't post much here on this thread but I still play this game almost daily. It's fun!

    My PC hasn't been on since February. I started having some issues with it, and although I'm pretty sure it's a power supply problem I could remedy pretty easily, I didn't rush to do it because at that point, I had already finished all of my Shadowlands goals for the patch (Keystone Master, Top 10 on the Druid leaderboards for Wyrmrest Accord, Ahead of the Curve, etc) and they hadn't even announced a date for 9.1 yet. I figured it would be good to just play the "my computer is fucked" card for a bit until more content arrived. But then all the Blizzard allegations came out, and I just didn't even want to give them my business anymore. At this point, I've still not fixed it because it prevents me from playing HotS, which is the only modern Blizzard title I actually miss.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    so many of the toxic tryhard players have moved on to newer, hotter games. I remember back when it seemed like 75% of my matches would get decided by which team had the least obnoxious crybaby yelling at them

    HotS. HotS never changes...

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    FUCK though, last night was FIVE games in a row with either a Aba/Naz/Zag who decided they were going to do nothing but push lanes all game and every team fight would be a 4v5 (the Aba only ever hatted minions and his monstrosity, not ONCE other teammates).

    People, you need to do that shit planned out ahead of time with the whole team playing around that strategy. To do just decide you're going to do it unannounced in a rando game. You're not even good at it! The Jaina who's actually at team fights has more siege damage and xp than you!

    The Aba decided to go all mines talents. He used them all in lanes on minions. Not one around objectives or bushes.
    The all-push Naz went spiders and spirit.

    Fucking what?

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    MrBody wrote: »
    so many of the toxic tryhard players have moved on to newer, hotter games. I remember back when it seemed like 75% of my matches would get decided by which team had the least obnoxious crybaby yelling at them

    HotS. HotS never changes...

    Now imagine it with 20% more people involved and voice chat being incorporated from the start.

    I don't play the Overwatch anymore. I would play five games and have to report 17 people.

    Blizzard doesn't give even half a shit about their asshole infestation issues, and now we all know why.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    FUCK though, last night was FIVE games in a row with either a Aba/Naz/Zag who decided they were going to do nothing but push lanes all game and every team fight would be a 4v5 (the Aba only ever hatted minions and his monstrosity, not ONCE other teammates).

    People, you need to do that shit planned out ahead of time with the whole team playing around that strategy. To do just decide you're going to do it unannounced in a rando game. You're not even good at it! The Jaina who's actually at team fights has more siege damage and xp than you!

    The Aba decided to go all mines talents. He used them all in lanes on minions. Not one around objectives or bushes.
    The all-push Naz went spiders and spirit.

    Fucking what?
    MrBody wrote: »
    so many of the toxic tryhard players have moved on to newer, hotter games. I remember back when it seemed like 75% of my matches would get decided by which team had the least obnoxious crybaby yelling at them

    HotS. HotS never changes...

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