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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Honestly at this point I really don't care if a company worth billions loses an infinitesimal fraction of that when a store gets looted.

    They have insurance, they ain't losing shit.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Grislo wrote: »
    Good on the protestors. That dude should 100% be in jail woth no bond awaiting first appearance. Any other non cop person would be.

    He should have been in prison ages ago, assuming just some of this is accurate (enough of it seems to be):

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    This is all correct BUT

    and here’s the super shitty part

    When comparing Chauvin’s record to the average record of a Minneapolis cop, a former HR/internal affairs person said it was pretty typical

    Fuckkk

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Almost like all cops are bastards or something

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Ah so Minneapolis is a RAMPART situation.

    Bring in the feds, salt the earth, start over.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    To view this as an isolated incident or a singularly-modern bad culture is, unfortunately, inaccurate

    Racism is so deeply ingrained in the Minneapolis P.D. that the American Indian Movement was founded to try and curb Minneapolis police violence against native people, and that was in 19 fucking 68.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    I totally forgot Castille’s murder was also basically in Minneapolis

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Zxerol wrote: »
    hey when people say "acab" and you're like "nuh uh #notallcops"



    Seems like it’d be cheaper to keep him in a nice, safe jail cell.
    Good on the protestors. That dude should 100% be in jail woth no bond awaiting first appearance. Any other non cop person would be.

    I used to think aw man don't grab a damned tv from target, it muddies the water.

    Now? Fuck it. Clean out that store and burn it down. Just leave the actual local businesses alone. Fuck a kohls or auto zone or whatnot tho.


    And in five seconds, any lingering issues I had with the rioting as it currently stands are washed away.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    And for those that will cry but what of target employees.

    The ceo could cover the pay for the entirety of the rebuild and not even notice the numbers moving

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Those Target employees are going to be laid off and receive unemployment benefits instead of being forced to work during a deadly pandemic

    Their store getting burned down is pretty much a best case scenario right now

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I certainly assume that when a Target is burnt down the corporation makes a profit somehow

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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    I certainly assume that when a Target is burnt down the corporation makes a profit somehow

    If video games have taught us anything, you get points for destroying a target, right?

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    Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    Hobnail wrote: »
    I certainly assume that when a Target is burnt down the corporation makes a profit somehow

    If video games have taught us anything, you get points for destroying a target, right?

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Honestly at this point I really don't care if a company worth billions loses an infinitesimal fraction of that when a store gets looted.

    I barely care if they lose the full billions.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    I totally forgot Castille’s murder was also basically in Minneapolis

    It was in Roseville/Falcon heights, where the state fairgrounds are

    Right outside the place where my childhood comic book store was

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    All my power just went out. Shit's about to get real

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    shiiiit be safe

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Indeed please be careful everyone local

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular

    So is it really even a target store at that point?

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    It's out in at least a 12 block radius something big got hit I think

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular

    So is it really even a target store at that point?

    In the same sense that first Whole Foods that just autocharged you for all goods on walking out was still a Whole Foods, yeah. Companies experiment everywhere with real stores.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited May 2020
    I think the implication is that it's a real Target store but they use it as a lab to test new policies and see how much shit gets stolen under these policies.

    Which is a whole Implication on top of everything else.

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    H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    I mean hell. The history of cops in America is literally tied to slavery. Some of the earliest groups that would become police were created with the sole purpose of catching escaped slaves. When that's the roots of your organization there's no amount of piecemeal reform that is going to fix the systemic issues.

    The concept of an organization that exists to enforce laws isn't inherently terrible, but the shit we have in this country is one of the worst forms of that in the world. You can't just throw a bit more training and body cameras at it and go "well that's fixed".

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    I think the implication is that it's a real Target store but they use it as a lab to test new policies and see how much shit gets stolen under these policies.

    Which is a whole Implication on top of everything else.

    Yeah lots of companies have test stores where they test new signage and such, which are also functional stores. This Target just seems like the perfect one to be looted for a variety of reasons.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    I mean hell. The history of cops in America is literally tied to slavery. Some of the earliest groups that would become police were created with the sole purpose of catching escaped slaves. When that's the roots of your organization there's no amount of piecemeal reform that is going to fix the systemic issues.

    The concept of an organization that exists to enforce laws isn't inherently terrible, but the shit we have in this country is one of the worst forms of that in the world. You can't just throw a bit more training and body cameras at it and go "well that's fixed".

    That's really the biggest thing in the long run, not the racism but that you have a LOT of legacies and standards mashed up into a singular mythical "law enforcement" chimera, ignoring the realities of their histories.

    Then you have this thing crash into economic complexities, regional complexities, sexuality and its role in society, and good old fashioned racial dogma, and you get today's comedy of errors.

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    I'm gonna move to a lighthouse and hang myself I think

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    I mean hell. The history of cops in America is literally tied to slavery. Some of the earliest groups that would become police were created with the sole purpose of catching escaped slaves. When that's the roots of your organization there's no amount of piecemeal reform that is going to fix the systemic issues.

    The concept of an organization that exists to enforce laws isn't inherently terrible, but the shit we have in this country is one of the worst forms of that in the world. You can't just throw a bit more training and body cameras at it and go "well that's fixed".

    The other big part of their history is violently suppressing workers, so it kind of follows a general theme.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Ever notice how it's only after the police start firing on crowds that fires start breaking out?





    Dr. Jason Johnson is a professor of politics and journalism at Morgan State University and a political analyst.

    Yeah, the police are basically setting incidentally off the fires and then letting them burn with the complicity of local fire departments. That's how it happens. Then it gets blamed on "rioters."

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    Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    “Abolish cops huh, but have you thought about... crime?!”

    It’s so genuinely frustrating the lack of imagination that keeps us from moving past this one thing

    Like yeah, the people calling to abolish the police have thought about what if crime still happens.

    Anyway I dunno this all sucks, I hope you’re all safe wherever you are

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Everyone please keep in mind that as this continues that we're gonna be seeing a lot of information over the next few days, and not all of it is going to necessarily be correct. Last night people were saying that the Target was burned to the ground, and it wasn't. This isn't necessarily anyone on the grounds' fault, because there's a fucking lot happening and it's probably impossible to get a full idea of what's going on when you're in the thick of it. But also keep in mind that people who aren't there are going to draw their own conclusions and post it out as fact.

    Just...be careful not to take everything at face value. A lot of people have a vested interest in making things look worse than they are, and it isn't always immediately apparent who to trust as a source.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Fuck, on their good days most pd's are just a source of revenue for their local govt's via tickets, fines and bail. The whole system of law enforcement is fucked from top to bottom.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    The concept of an organization that exists to enforce laws isn't inherently terrible, but the shit we have in this country is one of the worst forms of that in the world. You can't just throw a bit more training and body cameras at it and go "well that's fixed".

    Especially when shit like this happens literally on camera, in broad daylight, in front of a crowd of staring, horrified people.

    That's not carelessness or lack of professionalism. That's crime-lord "it's about sending a message" shit.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    So while we're on the subject of abolishing the police, do district attorneys get lumped into the same garbage skiff?

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    So while we're on the subject of abolishing the police, do district attorneys get lumped into the same garbage skiff?

    Cop is a cop, so yeah

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Okay, good. I view the DAs unwilling to levy charges against these cops worse than the cops themselves. They're the ones setting the examples that this behavior is acceptable.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Okay, good. I view the DAs unwilling to levy charges against these cops worse than the cops themselves. They're the ones setting the examples that this behavior is acceptable.

    often that's done because cops that do get charged rarely get convicted because the public is just as complicit

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Okay, good. I view the DAs unwilling to levy charges against these cops worse than the cops themselves. They're the ones setting the examples that this behavior is acceptable.

    often that's done because cops that do get charged rarely get convicted because the public is just as complicit

    I...do not want to believe this is true. Fuck.

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