Hit Diamond 5 Support, and the egos are getting bigger and bigger! People use mics far less, and the ones that do are a coin flip between assertive leaders and total wieners. Tanks are just running off without awareness and raging at the team, but the scoreboard says all it needs to, thankfully.
Unfortunately unlike in Overwatch, if your one tank is meek and not confident in their role, you're gonna have an incredibly awful time without the potential for the second tank to make the big plays and call-outs. It's a goalie position to be solo-tank that I don't think a lot of people are ready to take on, or want to.
Predicting the long tank queues are gonna twist the psyche of whoever endures them, kind of like Diamond-ish queues calling for the instant decapitation of any under-performing DPS just a year ago,if my memory is correct.
If you're waiting 12 minutes long to be a tank, to get placed into that leadership/in-game role, into ranked queues of often high-strung, tense, and quick-to-toxic sensisiblities... do any other game have this potential to slowly twist the role-player like that? I think the solo-tank era is gonna see some incredible new streamers and personalities pop-off.
Might grind to low Masters Support and call it quits for awhile. My true love of Overwatch was tanking, queues are insane and 10+ minutes, and I'm not interested in Open Queue GOATS.
I see that quite a bit in Plat already. The phrase 'tank ego' has come up several times.
It also seems really easy to throw by playing bad tank matchups but not modifying the playstyle. Like you can play Dva into Zarya, but you'll lose every fight if you insist on fighting Zarya first instead of the back line.
Comp matchmaking kind of seems like a mess right now. I feel like I get more stomps than I did in QP. With most people having placed with the ranking bug, I think it'll take a few weeks to stabilize people to their actual ranks.
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
Hit Diamond 5 Support, and the egos are getting bigger and bigger! People use mics far less, and the ones that do are a coin flip between assertive leaders and total wieners. Tanks are just running off without awareness and raging at the team, but the scoreboard says all it needs to, thankfully.
Unfortunately unlike in Overwatch, if your one tank is meek and not confident in their role, you're gonna have an incredibly awful time without the potential for the second tank to make the big plays and call-outs. It's a goalie position to be solo-tank that I don't think a lot of people are ready to take on, or want to.
Predicting the long tank queues are gonna twist the psyche of whomever endures them kind of like Diamond-ish queues for DPS a year ago. If you're waiting that long to be tank, are placed into that leadership/in-game role, and then probably become an egotistical monster. Kind of interested to see what the queue does to people.
Might grind to low Masters Support and call it quits for awhile. My true love of Overwatch was tanking, queues are insane and 10+ minutes, and I'm not interested in Open Queue GOATS.
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Has anybody else been having major performance issues since the last patch? About four minutes into every match, my system starts having a complete meltdown that seems to be lasting until the next one. Nothing like this at all until the last couple days. Tried lowering settings and still happening.
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i was getting some pretty bad rubberbanding the night after the patch, but idk if that was on my end or server side
The last time I played overwatch I think the hacker chick just came out.
Tried my first OW2 match and got play of the game with the new dps chick. I’m retiring in top.
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"Tank ego" is a great name for it, something I'm going to be using in my postgame one line chat when our fucking idiot Rein refuses to push forward or switch off, leaving the backline to get chewed up by enemy Sojourn and Sombra.
I haven't played Overwatch in years. I think I finally hung it up for good around the time that Hamster in the mech got added.
Still, evidently I now can't play Overwatch anymore since they shut down the servers? Kinda shitty.
Yeah, they gave it the WC3 treatment more or less.
I would be happy if they just had the option to go back to the OW1 graphics. These new lighting and reflection effects are overdone and awful.
I also just noticed something: they're obsessed with having maps take place during sunrise/sunset, in accordance to their philosophy of "MORE lighting! Regardless of final look!" Not the scenic kind of sunrise/set either, but the "holy fuck this glare hurts my eyes to be driving in" kind. I haven't noticed if the time of day changes, but it seems like every single old map is now sun-heavy.
Stop trying to blind me and just give me back the simple, contrasting night sky of Dorado.
If you convert your skins to the new $ values you get a coooooool number. My merged account is worth nearly $10,000. That is cool and also depressing. Has someone very smart done a video-essay / written article on how the weird economic inflation of the world has messed with the sanity of video game cosmetic values, because we are peaking into something else here.
I don't want Overwatch 2 to fail, but Blizzard really fucking sucks and it feels we crossed WC3 Reforged with this re-launch.
The core game is still fun and wonderful six years on, but everything around it is oh boooy. And even parts of the actual game like, lighting, character outlines, the on-fire meter, Career Profile working correctly, etc.
I want Overwatch 2 to succeed so my account can be worth 10 G on the open market and I can buy a used car. But I want it to fail hard enough that Blizzard has to actually put the work hard in to get this game back to being really great. But after mobile Diablo, leaving HOTS to die, OW2 in current form, WC3 reforged, and WoW's expansion designs being fucked I don't think we're getting much more.
2016 Blizzard was their last good hurrah and I think we just gotta coast and enjoy the fumes of a once great game, which I'm okay with. The thought of playing Overwatch for ten years was always a bit odd. Wonder if it makes it that far? Hope it does.
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edited October 2022
Dunkey did a video on Overwatch 2, but I liked this comment in the video the best for an extra jab.
The new meta discussions are which tank comps are the beefiest. Rein and Zarya are letting a third into their King's Row gambits and everyone needs to embrace Open Queue as the best mode. 4 tanks versus 4 tanks with their new balance, backed by two spiritually spent supports feels like a toned down, and more focused Total Mayhem, only with a competitive option.
I can reliably grab ahold of a tank, unlike the immense queue times elsehwere. Also, if playing the overworked and distraught supports, it lets me practice Zen shots versus every tank, which is high volume, satisfying, and ultimately a doomed shooting gallery because they're just the biiiiigest targets and no mega-kick is gonna save that little monk lad.
TLDR: Open Queue Ranked/Un-Ranked for LIFE.
Hot take - Balance changes that need to occur:
Sombra too big right now. Destroys uncommunicative teams.
Sojourn too big right now. Kit brings so much value.
Doom too weak right now, never feel good healing or covering one after loads of games.
Junkerqueen gets quashed unless team coordinates a tonne.
In fact, don't NERF D.Va and Zarya, make the other tanks as BEEFY. Make Doom as tank a terrifying sight, even for a brief moment.
Nonono, keep everyone's hp at 200 but double the tanks, make tank damage half as much to anyone aside from other tanks, and each tank has crazy passives that help nearby allies like the lucio auras.
Make it 4 DPS and 3 supports per team.
2x Tank actual sizes.
Then it's full godzilla mode. Cart the destructive Tanks around as they spew weird reality bending passives.
Junkerqueen gives everyone bleed damage.
Zarya gives everyone mini bubbles they can activate on their own.
Ball gives everyone a zip-line.
Rein lets everyone do mini charges.
I hope people will eventually learn how to use the ping system. It's very easy - every time you see an enemy trying to flank, or actively in your back line, ping them. It's that simple. The ping sound is pretty noticeable, and as a tank on the front lines it often gets me to turn around.
I also bound the standard ping button to the "Enemy Here" ping instead. I use it to call out places where I think a flanker is about to enter from.
I bound mousewheel up to "enemy" and mousewheel down to "help me."
So I can't ping on Mercy or Torb I guess.
Also, I apparently fiddle with the mousewheel a lot when I die, and I think others do too by the number of "X is respawning in Y seconds" pings I see.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
ping should just be one notification, "enemy here," not 10 different things. on console it creates an extra wheel that is more cumbersome than the voice commands.
My generic ping button is bound to T. I've had to basically redo my keybinding set up since I like to have melee bound to E. Anything that was bound to E is now bound to 3.
I think Dunkey has hit on plenty valid criticisms in the past, but part of me wonders if his "lazy Blizzard devs" angle will shift a little once he puts his money where his mouth is with his little videogame production/publishing project and gains a bit more perspective on how the sausage is actually made
I'm pleased with how generous the ping targeting on enemies are, I was worried I'd have to "land" a ping on a target in order for it to work, but if you come close it seems to get the idea.
Dunkey, much like Yahtzee, is a funny video person who can entirely miss me when he tries to have serious takes. He makes some reasonable points on that video and then complains about Roadhog not one-shotting anymore and general tank balance while playing Open Queue...
The thing about anyone who talks about "lazy" devs is that in fact devs are lazy, just not in the way non-devs think. Dev laziness generally leads to important/useful automation or reusable tools that end up making the game better, in ways that are invisible to end users. Meanwhile, the things everyone likes to chalk up to "laziness" are usually due to anything and everything but that (and are decided on at much higher levels than any developer actually doing the work of building the game is at).
"Lazy devs" almost always actually means "higher-ups who control the money said not to do the thing" and I think that Dunkey, in starting up a publisher, will become intimately familiar with that soon enough.
I mean for one thing there's absolutely a reason this release is kind of half baked, and it's because they only really worked on it full time for the last year. Before that they were stuck in dev hell on PvE. We may never know what went wrong in that time, but the pandemic and turnover from the scandals didn't help. Insulting the developers themselves is always misguided. Blame leadership if you must. But even then I think people give too much credit to Jeff and not enough to Aaron. Kotick is also a popular boogeyman but I think that's too reductive.
I think their dev strategy in the early years of OW2 was a mistake. What they've done in the last year was mostly returning to what it should have been in the first place. Sooner or later they will have both resolved the launch struggles and released PvE, and then we'll really see where the grand vision has gotten them.
the more i stare at the new models the more i realize how plasticky they all look. I stared at torb for a full minute and was wondering if he was like really good/bad claymation or something.
The article said DF is the main hero they're looking to buff S2(cause damn near everyone agrees he's the worst character in the game) mainly changes to Power Block and Meteor Strike so they aren't complete garbage I guess.
The second one was not POTG, there was a crazy DVa Quad Kill Ult later in the match. Much to my chagrin.
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edited October 2022
DvA/Sojourn/Sombra/Lucio/Moira or Kiriko, that's all it is, if you don't play that or aren't 5 stacking then you lose. The game just isn't fun right now and I'll check in with Junkenstein.
If they're going to do no serious changes until December, give us hero ban, at least we have some control given back instead of being at Sombra's whim.
That doesn't match my experience at all. I've seen pretty much everyone win (barring Doomfist). Hell, D.Va isn't even the best tank right now (it's Zarya).
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Unfortunately unlike in Overwatch, if your one tank is meek and not confident in their role, you're gonna have an incredibly awful time without the potential for the second tank to make the big plays and call-outs. It's a goalie position to be solo-tank that I don't think a lot of people are ready to take on, or want to.
Predicting the long tank queues are gonna twist the psyche of whoever endures them, kind of like Diamond-ish queues calling for the instant decapitation of any under-performing DPS just a year ago,if my memory is correct.
If you're waiting 12 minutes long to be a tank, to get placed into that leadership/in-game role, into ranked queues of often high-strung, tense, and quick-to-toxic sensisiblities... do any other game have this potential to slowly twist the role-player like that? I think the solo-tank era is gonna see some incredible new streamers and personalities pop-off.
Might grind to low Masters Support and call it quits for awhile. My true love of Overwatch was tanking, queues are insane and 10+ minutes, and I'm not interested in Open Queue GOATS.
It also seems really easy to throw by playing bad tank matchups but not modifying the playstyle. Like you can play Dva into Zarya, but you'll lose every fight if you insist on fighting Zarya first instead of the back line.
low masters is the ideal fucking around sr, live the dream without any pressure
when i burned out on tryharding doing deviant shit in masters gave me second life
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Tried my first OW2 match and got play of the game with the new dps chick. I’m retiring in top.
Still, evidently I now can't play Overwatch anymore since they shut down the servers? Kinda shitty.
Yeah, they gave it the WC3 treatment more or less.
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I would be happy if they just had the option to go back to the OW1 graphics. These new lighting and reflection effects are overdone and awful.
I also just noticed something: they're obsessed with having maps take place during sunrise/sunset, in accordance to their philosophy of "MORE lighting! Regardless of final look!" Not the scenic kind of sunrise/set either, but the "holy fuck this glare hurts my eyes to be driving in" kind. I haven't noticed if the time of day changes, but it seems like every single old map is now sun-heavy.
Stop trying to blind me and just give me back the simple, contrasting night sky of Dorado.
I don't want Overwatch 2 to fail, but Blizzard really fucking sucks and it feels we crossed WC3 Reforged with this re-launch.
The core game is still fun and wonderful six years on, but everything around it is oh boooy. And even parts of the actual game like, lighting, character outlines, the on-fire meter, Career Profile working correctly, etc.
I want Overwatch 2 to succeed so my account can be worth 10 G on the open market and I can buy a used car. But I want it to fail hard enough that Blizzard has to actually put the work hard in to get this game back to being really great. But after mobile Diablo, leaving HOTS to die, OW2 in current form, WC3 reforged, and WoW's expansion designs being fucked I don't think we're getting much more.
2016 Blizzard was their last good hurrah and I think we just gotta coast and enjoy the fumes of a once great game, which I'm okay with. The thought of playing Overwatch for ten years was always a bit odd. Wonder if it makes it that far? Hope it does.
I can reliably grab ahold of a tank, unlike the immense queue times elsehwere. Also, if playing the overworked and distraught supports, it lets me practice Zen shots versus every tank, which is high volume, satisfying, and ultimately a doomed shooting gallery because they're just the biiiiigest targets and no mega-kick is gonna save that little monk lad.
TLDR: Open Queue Ranked/Un-Ranked for LIFE.
Hot take - Balance changes that need to occur:
Sombra too big right now. Destroys uncommunicative teams.
Sojourn too big right now. Kit brings so much value.
Doom too weak right now, never feel good healing or covering one after loads of games.
Junkerqueen gets quashed unless team coordinates a tonne.
In fact, don't NERF D.Va and Zarya, make the other tanks as BEEFY. Make Doom as tank a terrifying sight, even for a brief moment.
Make it 4 DPS and 3 supports per team.
2x Tank actual sizes.
Then it's full godzilla mode. Cart the destructive Tanks around as they spew weird reality bending passives.
Junkerqueen gives everyone bleed damage.
Zarya gives everyone mini bubbles they can activate on their own.
Ball gives everyone a zip-line.
Rein lets everyone do mini charges.
8v8 mayhem.
I also bound the standard ping button to the "Enemy Here" ping instead. I use it to call out places where I think a flanker is about to enter from.
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So I can't ping on Mercy or Torb I guess.
Also, I apparently fiddle with the mousewheel a lot when I die, and I think others do too by the number of "X is respawning in Y seconds" pings I see.
It says "X is respawning in Y seconds" when you try to use acknowledge, group up, etc, as well.
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Yeah that's annoying, there are some things that are worth saying while dead. I think it makes sense as the ping button behavior though.
"no balance for S1" lmao
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I think Dunkey has hit on plenty valid criticisms in the past, but part of me wonders if his "lazy Blizzard devs" angle will shift a little once he puts his money where his mouth is with his little videogame production/publishing project and gains a bit more perspective on how the sausage is actually made
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I think their dev strategy in the early years of OW2 was a mistake. What they've done in the last year was mostly returning to what it should have been in the first place. Sooner or later they will have both resolved the launch struggles and released PvE, and then we'll really see where the grand vision has gotten them.
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The article said DF is the main hero they're looking to buff S2(cause damn near everyone agrees he's the worst character in the game) mainly changes to Power Block and Meteor Strike so they aren't complete garbage I guess.
But yeah just don't play him until then I guess.
The second one was not POTG, there was a crazy DVa Quad Kill Ult later in the match. Much to my chagrin.
If they're going to do no serious changes until December, give us hero ban, at least we have some control given back instead of being at Sombra's whim.
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