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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd need to find the discussion about the "until it leaves the battlefield" templating on the wizards website before I'd be able to remember what it is I'm talking about.

    You might be thinking of the weird period where "substance" was a thing

    You can't write me off like that! You're just a voice, pal! You don't know a DAMN THING ABOUT RACING!!
  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    2020 the return of banding finally?

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    edited July 29
    I feel like you could errata banding to make it not bananapants fairly easily.

    I mean it basically boils down to "you get to pick how all combat damage is assigned" anyway.

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd need to find the discussion about the "until it leaves the battlefield" templating on the wizards website before I'd be able to remember what it is I'm talking about.

    You might be thinking of the weird period where "substance" was a thing

    God, I irrationally hate that.... that thing.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    I feel like you could errata banding to make it not bananapants fairly easily.

    I mean it basically boils down to "you get to pick how all combat damage is assigned" anyway.

    picking how combat damage is assigned is extremely powerful

    at the very least limited would be an absolute shitshow

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Banding is the most powerful creature keyword ever printed for limited. It's pants-on-head level of mindfuck for combat math, too.

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    I feel like you could errata banding to make it not bananapants fairly easily.

    I mean it basically boils down to "you get to pick how all combat damage is assigned" anyway.

    The problem is that it works differently for attacking and blocking (everyone with banding+one without vs. only one bander needed), it uses the old damage assignment rules (I assign two damage to my 3/3, one to my 2/2, and zero to my 1/1, or alternatively all 3 deathtouch damage goes on the 1/1), and the interaction with Trample is non-intuitive (16/16 tramples in, 1/1 banding blocks and takes 16 damage with 0 going to the player).

    Another very real reason it's not getting printed anymore is immediately visible if you look at Banding Sliver.

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Watching a close-up card magician competition. It's real good none seem interested in M:tg. Im pretty sure they could switch out cards I was holding in my hand without me noticing.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    oh there have definitely been cheaters that utilize sleight-of-hand, most recently usually shuffle manipulation

    but ultimately if you're going to learn sleight of hand in order to cheat at games to make money, magic is really not the most profitable direction you could go in

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    edited July 29
    You can maybe limit NuBanding to soulbonded creatures. Don't make it a keyword at first:

    "As long as this creature is paired with any other creature, when one of the creatures is dealt combat damage you may have any amount of combat damage dealt to the other instead."

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    The en-Kor ability was kinda-sorta a fixed banding as well - the whole "0: the next 1 damage dealt to ~ is dealt to another target creature you control instead" thing.

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    Neveron wrote: »
    The en-Kor ability was kinda-sorta a fixed banding as well - the whole "0: the next 1 damage dealt to ~ is dealt to another target creature you control instead" thing.

    Yeah but this gave us Breakfast Hulk so was it really a worthy fix?

    You can't write me off like that! You're just a voice, pal! You don't know a DAMN THING ABOUT RACING!!
  • QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    oh there have definitely been cheaters that utilize sleight-of-hand, most recently usually shuffle manipulation

    but ultimately if you're going to learn sleight of hand in order to cheat at games to make money, magic is really not the most profitable direction you could go in

    I find cheaters in magic fascinating for this reason. You choose to cheat, and magic is a good game for it, but not that profitable compared to poker or many others. Much less likely to get you shot/beat-up too though.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    oh there have definitely been cheaters that utilize sleight-of-hand, most recently usually shuffle manipulation

    but ultimately if you're going to learn sleight of hand in order to cheat at games to make money, magic is really not the most profitable direction you could go in

    Ya, this stuff was top end, like, to the point if someone used these techniques to cheat on me, I dunno if I would even be mad. The low brow shuffle sleighters and stuff are pfft.

    I want to see one of these champions go to a tourney, Opponent attacks in, suddenly entire board is Yugio.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    the few pro cheaters that get caught and actually talk about it generally say they did it because they desperately needed the validation of constantly winning and were generally just sadsacks

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  • QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the few pro cheaters that get caught and actually talk about it generally say they did it because they desperately needed the validation of constantly winning and were generally just sadsacks

    Also magic just has high enough variance both in individual games AND in matchups vs the meta that even with perfect play you may not win your games. It's a darn fun game but pro tour structure is more of a least worst than actual best way to find the best player. Which is fine and compelling! March madness is a great spectacle and a terrible way to find the best basketball team. But if you think playing good decks well should lead to consistency, you can be lead into the temptation of "deserving" to cheat as well.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    "I tap 4 black mana"

    Magician " Are you sure?"

    Look down

    Doves fly away from where land used to be.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    "I tap 4 black mana"

    Magician " Are you sure?"

    Look down

    Doves fly away from where land used to be.

    WHAT THE EFF DAVID BLAINE?!

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    "I tap 4 black mana"

    Magician " Are you sure?"

    Look down

    Doves fly away from where land used to be.

    I have seen card tricks on Penn and Teller.

    They can do some shit.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    "I tap 4 black mana"

    Magician " Are you sure?"

    Look down

    Doves fly away from where land used to be.

    WHAT THE EFF DAVID BLAINE?!

    In case someone doesn't know what he's referencing...

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular


    Some uncommons that have been downshifted to common in Double Masters are already legal in Pauper on MTGO, despite the set not being released and the cards not yet officially spoiled as downshifted, only leaked.

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    lmao

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    that's a good choice to showcase RKF art.

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  • FearghaillFearghaill If there is nothing but what we make in this world let us make goodRegistered User regular
  • Lord PalingtonLord Palington he.him.his History-loving pal!Registered User regular
    "...and every other horrible thing in my awful deck" is a classic Mountain Goats mood.

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Fuck goblins elves and craterhoof are where it's at.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    there's a gold/gems deal on the Arena store today

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Imagine finding someone, falling in love, building a life together, then discovering they play 4 color Reclamation.

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  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I bought my first and last M21 collector booster today, I stumbled across a few at a Target and thought, eh, let's gamble.

    Hits were an extended-art Grim Tutor, an extended-art foil Temple of Triumph, a foil regular Chandra, Heart of Fire, and a foil showcase Island. I think I jusssst broke even at $25/pack?

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
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    GOBLINS RISE UP

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Mono Black Control rise up!

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    That's a lot of shake-up

    ...Ugin-ramp wins, I guess?

  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    AKA "popular streamers are moving to Runeterra" Ban wave.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. 5386-8443-8937Registered User regular
    Banning cauldron familiar seems excessive

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    damn son

    Has there been a standard with a banlist this long before?

  • Lord PalingtonLord Palington he.him.his History-loving pal!Registered User regular
    Pioneer might be fun again!

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  • Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Goodbye Ballista means goodbye my interest in Pioneer.

    Also wish I got the chance to play Wilderness Rec a few more times. Lukka decks got a week to say goodbye.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Wilderness Rec has been around since war of the spark to be fair

  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Happy for all the wild cards I'm getting in time for amonkhet remastered.

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