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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Heavy Black decks would be strong anyway vs weenie with Cry, soot and event

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Drascin wrote: »
    If weenie tokens let you get to 6 mana without winning they deserve to lose

    It's not even difficult. It just requires you to stall a bit, which is hilariously easy in current standard, wipe them on turn 3 or 4 so you still have a bit of life, and then this just comes in and re-wipes on turn 6 and gets you hp back.

    Nothing about Massacre Wurm gets hp back.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    I was expecting a wintoa suspension in bo1, but not bo3 too. Good thing I didn't use my wild cards on her yet.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Suspended? Why the change in verbiage?

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Means wotc didn't need to give arena players wild cards that they spent on the card.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Suspended? Why the change in verbiage?

    Historic has suspensions since it's digital only and they want to be flexible about cards being "on probation" before totally banning them. They may want Winota to have a chance with containment priest before being totally banned

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Suspended? Why the change in verbiage?

    They changed their verbiage around Historic a while back. Cards that are "suspended" are functionally banned, but philosophically are still under consideration depending on how the meta shakes out. I believe they've said that all cards in Historic will move to suspended before being either returned to the format or banned.

    It's basically a way of saying "there's still a possibility this card will come back," rather than a true ban which is meant to be a more permanent "we don't see this ever being able to come back."

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/historic-suspension-announcement-2019-12-10
    Historic is evolving rapidly, both from general play and because it's receiving new cards fairly regularly. To support it properly, we need a way to control the balance that works well with Magic's history of using bans and restrictions while allowing more flexibility to adjust as Historic changes.

    Suspending cards gives us that mechanism. For gameplay purposes, a suspension works like a ban, in that the card will not be legal to use in the format while it is suspended. But unlike how we handle banning cards, we plan to use the flexibility that the digital format provides to move cards onto and off of the suspension list more commonly. The "off of" portion there is important. Suspension isn't a final verdict, it's an indication that we think this card may be causing issues, and we'd like to see what the meta looks like without that influence.

    Suspension is also a temporary measure. All the cards we're suspending here will be removed from the suspension list by or before the Ranked Historic queue returning in March. Some may be returned to the playable pool (likely because we believe the new environment provides the appropriate answers or countermeasures), and the rest will move to being fully banned.

    It's meant to be something of a step before outright banning in Historic, on account of how they're trying to make the format update a bit more dynamically.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    But bans aren't permanent, anyway. There's no functional difference...right?

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    i'm liking core 21 a lot more than ikoria

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    But bans aren't permanent, anyway. There's no functional difference...right?

    functionally? no

    bans tend to take a lot to overturn though

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Drascin wrote: »
    If weenie tokens let you get to 6 mana without winning they deserve to lose

    It's not even difficult. It just requires you to stall a bit, which is hilariously easy in current standard, wipe them on turn 3 or 4 so you still have a bit of life, and then this just comes in and re-wipes on turn 6 and gets you hp back.

    Nothing about Massacre Wurm gets hp back.

    I read the second sentence opposite way, turns out. Instead of making opponent lose life, I read it as you gaining life per death.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    yeah massacre wurm usually ends the game when it does its thing

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
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    yeah massacre wurm usually ends the game when it does its thing

    Although when it doesn't, the fact that the "lose 2 life" trigger is a completely separate thing from the ETB trigger always catches someone by surprise.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    yeah ive seen many a reading comprehension loss to the card

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    You can really ranch people in Commander by casting a Mascara Wurm before combat, swinging in, and then grabbing your pen and saying "and 5 of your creatures died so you lose ten" and they just immediately pick the card up to make sure you're not doing them a swindle.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    yeah ive seen many a reading comprehension loss to the card

    this is just M:TG summed up

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    Angelic Ascension
    1W
    Instant
    Exile target creature or planeswalker. Its controller creates a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying.
    Interesting twist on the Beast Within/White Beast Within formula. The cost and speed are nice, but an Angel is a hefty creature to deal with. I can see this card being good friends with 3feri though. Either kill your opponent's creature/walker and then -3 to bounce the Angel and draw, or lay down a 3feri on turn 5, bounce/draw one of their things, then when they go to kill 3feri you hit it with the Ascension and start beating them with your new Angel.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    But bans aren't permanent, anyway. There's no functional difference...right?

    Historic doesn't get the same level of attention as every other format. As far as we know the suspensions are only determined by the Arena team with little-to-no-input from any of the people responsible for the B&R list. So keeping the name different helps keep that distinction in language as well as reality.

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    EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
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    Angelic Ascension
    1W
    Instant
    Exile target creature or planeswalker. Its controller creates a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying.
    Interesting twist on the Beast Within/White Beast Within formula. The cost and speed are nice, but an Angel is a hefty creature to deal with. I can see this card being good friends with 3feri though. Either kill your opponent's creature/walker and then -3 to bounce the Angel and draw, or lay down a 3feri on turn 5, bounce/draw one of their things, then when they go to kill 3feri you hit it with the Ascension and start beating them with your new Angel.

    There is also the more white side of the equation where you basically use it as a god willing on your creature in response to an opponent's spell or after declaring blockers.

    Actually what would the rules be for an opponent attacking your planeswalker and you blow it up in response. can you still block that creature with the angel?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
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    Angelic Ascension
    1W
    Instant
    Exile target creature or planeswalker. Its controller creates a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying.
    Interesting twist on the Beast Within/White Beast Within formula. The cost and speed are nice, but an Angel is a hefty creature to deal with. I can see this card being good friends with 3feri though. Either kill your opponent's creature/walker and then -3 to bounce the Angel and draw, or lay down a 3feri on turn 5, bounce/draw one of their things, then when they go to kill 3feri you hit it with the Ascension and start beating them with your new Angel.

    There is also the more white side of the equation where you basically use it as a god willing on your creature in response to an opponent's spell or after declaring blockers.

    Actually what would the rules be for an opponent attacking your planeswalker and you blow it up in response. can you still block that creature with the angel?

    Did you blow it up before or after the declare blockers phase? That’s your answer.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
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    Angelic Ascension
    1W
    Instant
    Exile target creature or planeswalker. Its controller creates a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying.
    Interesting twist on the Beast Within/White Beast Within formula. The cost and speed are nice, but an Angel is a hefty creature to deal with. I can see this card being good friends with 3feri though. Either kill your opponent's creature/walker and then -3 to bounce the Angel and draw, or lay down a 3feri on turn 5, bounce/draw one of their things, then when they go to kill 3feri you hit it with the Ascension and start beating them with your new Angel.

    There is also the more white side of the equation where you basically use it as a god willing on your creature in response to an opponent's spell or after declaring blockers.

    Actually what would the rules be for an opponent attacking your planeswalker and you blow it up in response. can you still block that creature with the angel?

    Did you blow it up before or after the declare blockers phase? That’s your answer.

    Yep

    You can still block creatures attacking a planeswalker that left the board. This actually comes up in standard right now with things like Cavalcade of Calamity and Scorch Spitter

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    Pursued Whale
    5UU
    Creature - Whale
    When Pursued Whale enters the battlefield, each opponent creates a 1/1 red pirate creature token with "this creature cannot block" and "creatures you control must attack each combat if able."
    Spells your opponents cast that target Pursued Whale cost 3 more to cast.

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    Archdemon's Vessel
    B
    Creature - Human Cleric
    Lifelink

    When Archdemon's Vessel enters the battlefield, if it entered from your graveyard or was cast from your graveyard, exile it. If you do, create a 5/5 black demon creature token with flying.

    I really like the Vessel design; an early drop that can block or be sacrificed that also works as a reanimation target? And for conditional reanimation like Call of the Death-Dweller or Unearth? Pretty sweet.

    The whale is a fun Moby Dick design but probably not very good.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    it wouldn't be a coreset with a funny but bad giant sea creature

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    it wouldn't be a coreset with a funny but bad giant sea creature

    it's a good moby dick though

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    it wouldn't be a coreset with a funny but bad giant sea creature

    it's a good moby dick though

    But it’s blue

    Moby Dick was famously white

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    kitty will run you the fuck over

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Good sac to dreadmalkin too

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    astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    Now going to be disappointed when there isn’t a removal spell called From Hell’s Heart.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    astrobstrd wrote: »
    Now going to be disappointed when there isn’t a removal spell called From Hell’s Heart.

    From Hell's Heart {B}{R}

    Instant

    Destroy target permanent an opponent controls.

    You lose the game.

    "For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."

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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    That really needs a new Stab mechanic to use in place of Destroy though.

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    astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    Would run that in some commander groups.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    good with Hive Mind

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
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    KalTorak wrote: »
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    Pursued Whale
    5UU
    Creature - Whale
    When Pursued Whale enters the battlefield, each opponent creates a 1/1 red pirate creature token with "this creature cannot block" and "creatures you control must attack each combat if able."
    Spells your opponents cast that target Pursued Whale cost 3 more to cast.

    WHITE WHALE

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    ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    it wouldn't be a coreset with a funny but bad giant sea creature

    it's a good moby dick though

    But it’s blue

    Moby Dick was famously white

    I feel like there was a major flavor fail in not making it a white card. I know that this is blues area of the pie/sets, but make a bend for flavor in this instance.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    ZeroCow wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    it wouldn't be a coreset with a funny but bad giant sea creature

    it's a good moby dick though

    But it’s blue

    Moby Dick was famously white

    I feel like there was a major flavor fail in not making it a white card. I know that this is blues area of the pie/sets, but make a bend for flavor in this instance.

    Skin tone is not representative of color identity.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    "Stormwing's Presence"
    3UU
    Creature - Elemental
    This spell costs 2U less to cast if you have cast an instant or sorcery this turn.
    Flying
    Prowess
    When Stormwing's Presence enters the battlefield, scry 2.
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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    apropos of nothing can i just say how happy i am that prowess is back. man i love prowess

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