[Magic The Gathering Arena] Damn it Braids, quit Peering into the Abyss!

DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
edited June 9 in Games and Technology
New thread, new set reveals:
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check out more here:
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html
or
https://scryfall.com/sets/m21

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Fuckin Braids

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  • ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    I know mythic spoiler has more "spoils" but i still like to point people to Scryfall, instead, as they usually source well and respect the time for the card revealing people. Also the best translation puns.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited June 9
    Oh man, Heroic Intervention is getting a re-print. Gonna have to jank together a big ol' green stumpy deck.

    The re-prints in general are so damn good this set. I'm really glad they're doing this to get some of the prices on the secondary market under control. Hell it's hilarious that Fabled Passage is already getting a re-print which is great since I would love to get more copies of that but the cost is kind of crazy for a fetch land that doesn't get that much play outside of Standard and EDH.

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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Standard and edh is probably the VAST majority of people playing the game.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Think I just managed to win a draft match by misreading the board state and emoting 'GG' while we were both top-decking.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Think I just managed to win a draft match by misreading the board state and emoting 'GG' while we were both top-decking.

    that or his boss came in... oh wait Covid... Had to take a conference call?

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Gonna cry after reading all the flavor text on the Dog cards

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  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Also the new hint text for "Phases out" has all sorts of startling philosophical implications

  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Spend a little (fake) money to make a bunch more (fake) money in the store today.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    speaking of flavor text, Bigger Shivan Dragon and Accumulated More Knowledge have some good stuff

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    The first one has big

    "What are you gonna do, stab me?"
    - Quote from man stabbed

    energy.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    oh damn... was about to finish putting together a Snapdax Brawl deck but it turns out the damn mutate cost gets the commander tax! LAAAME!

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited June 11
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Think I just managed to win a draft match by misreading the board state and emoting 'GG' while we were both top-decking.

    that or his boss came in... oh wait Covid... Had to take a conference call?

    Nah.
    It was 'GG' => frantic highlighting of all the cards => 'thinking' => more frantic highlighting => surrender

    We were on like 2 life to 6 (after he gained life from his vigilance tribal guy), with me continuously chump blocking his 'protected from even' dude, while flying over and pinging with cycle.

    I would have won if I had top decked a cycle card, and otherwise would likely have lost.
    But just being bad at the math worked too.

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  • BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    World Shaper in Momir is wild

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited June 12
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    Basically Stuffy Doll but with the benefit of Fighting stuff as an ability. Lots of potential for janky fun, like Cathartic Reunion it in to the grave then Call of the Death Dweller to bring it in with death touch, then just start picking fights with everything on the board.
    That or put Colossification on one of your creatures and have them fight it out.

    Also comes with it's own trailer:


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    Another fun card. Imagine this and Mirrormarch.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    And Brash Taunter is only a Rare. Damn.jpg

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Unfortunately it’s 5 CMC so call of the death dweller doesn’t work

    fuck gendered marketing
  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Figures. First Ikoria pack I open in a week and I get Winota. And she's only suspended, not banned yet, so I don't even get any wildcards out of it.

  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Shadowen wrote: »
    Figures. First Ikoria pack I open in a week and I get Winota. And she's only suspended, not banned yet, so I don't even get any wildcards out of it.

    It's only suspended in Historic...

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited June 12
    Never fails to ruin a fun game when Thassa shows up and starts her bounce BS. I despise that card. There is no good reason she should have indestructible at 4 mana cost with how strong that bounce can be.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    edited June 12
    I'm weak and got the 5 Secret Lair sleeves for Arena, for $8 total (eBay)

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Question: what's the deal with Cube Drafts on Arena? It looks like I can just hit Start and enter, when there's also options to pay with gems or gold. How's this work?

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Have you got a free draft token from somewhere? (check up by your gems, gold, wildcards etc to see)

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  • Who-PsydWho-Psyd Registered User regular
    edited June 12
    I think everyone gets one free entry to the Cube Draft?

    Quick Edit: Yeah everyone has a single free entry to the Draft.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    I hope they don't allow draft tokens to be used for the cube draft that would be unfortunate

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited June 13
    Elldren wrote: »
    Unfortunately it’s 5 CMC so call of the death dweller doesn’t work

    damn it! ... well Insatiable Hemophage Morph on to it?

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    7-2 Arena Cube free run with BR sacrifice. Also showing sideboard picks and the Unsealing/Traxos picks I was tinkering with before deciding to focus on the sacrifice thing.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Unfortunately it’s 5 CMC so call of the death dweller doesn’t work

    damn it! ... well Insatiable Hemophage Morph on to it?

    or cycle a Void Beckoner

  • BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    Did a cube draft. White was very open.

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    Results:
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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    I found another Monowhite Lifegain decklist that looks promising. The YT vid for the deck discusses how it plays. It's a bit heavy on Rares and Mythics, so I've tweaked it to my collection:
    My version:
    4x Alseid
    4x Healer's Hawk
    3x Shadowspear
    4x Pridemate
    4x Daxos
    1x Impassioned Orator
    4x Banishing Light
    2x Dreadful Apathy
    3x Heliod
    3x Linden
    2x Omen of the Sun
    1x Lurrus (as a creature)
    1x Cubwarden
    (Castle Ardenvale singleton; 2x Idyllic Grange; 2x Godless Shrine; 2x Temple of Silence)

    I'm debating dropping the Scry lands since they slow tempo. If I like this list enough, I may burn a wildcard on a Cubwarden; although I had to burn one for my third Linden

    His version:
    4 Linden, the Steadfast Queen (ELD)
    20 Plains (IKO)
    4 Ajani's Pridemate (WAR)
    4 Heliod, Sun-Crowned (THB)
    3 Hushbringer (ELD)
    4 Healer's Hawk (GRN)
    1 Lurrus of the Dream Den (IKO)
    4 Castle Ardenvale (ELD)
    3 Banishing Light (THB)
    4 Alseid of Life's Bounty (THB)
    3 Ajani, Strength of the Pride (M20)
    2 Cubwarden (IKO)
    4 Daxos, Blessed by the Sun (THB)


    I need more plays with this deck, but it may be my main deck once M21 shows up, so I'm going to start checking spoilers. I certainly need more planeswalkers.

  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    Also if anyone is interested, the full-art for the shocklands is the daily deal in the Store.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited June 13
    ...
    If I have Starfield Mystic and Lurrus in play, can I cycle a 3 CMC enchantment like Dreadful Apathy from my graveyard?
    Lurrus is 2 CMC permanent spell so.. wouldn't that be on stack rather than on card?

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    ...
    If I have Starfield Mystic and Lurrus in play, can I cycle a 3 CMC enchantment like Dreadful Apathy from my graveyard?
    Lurrus is 2 CMC permanent spell so.. wouldn't that be on stack rather than on card?

    It's an activated ability that can only be used if the card is in your hand.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    ...
    If I have Starfield Mystic and Lurrus in play, can I cycle a 3 CMC enchantment like Dreadful Apathy from my graveyard?
    Lurrus is 2 CMC permanent spell so.. wouldn't that be on stack rather than on card?

    It's an activated ability that can only be used if the card is in your hand.

    :/
    Sorry, can I play a 3 CMC enchantment from my graveyard.
    As opposed to the literal keyword cycle.

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    No, I don’t think the Starfield Mystic changes the actual CMC of the enchantment.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    No, I don’t think the Starfield Mystic changes the actual CMC of the enchantment.

    Lurrus reads permanent spell though, instead of permanent card like it's own deck restriction.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    ...
    If I have Starfield Mystic and Lurrus in play, can I cycle a 3 CMC enchantment like Dreadful Apathy from my graveyard?
    Lurrus is 2 CMC permanent spell so.. wouldn't that be on stack rather than on card?

    It's an activated ability that can only be used if the card is in your hand.

    :/
    Sorry, can I play a 3 CMC enchantment from my graveyard.
    As opposed to the literal keyword cycle.

    Nope. The CMC would still be over 2. Now if the situation were the opposite, say your opponent had Callaphe while you had Lurrus, you could still cast Heloid's Punishment on an opponent's creature, because the CMC would still be 2 even though you'd have to pay 3 to do it.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited June 14
    Ok. I don't get it, and it doesn't work.

    It seems dumb that X is as chosen and part of CMC when the spell is on the stack, but adjustments to the cost are not part of the CMC on the stack.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Ok. I don't get it, and it doesn't work.

    It seems dumb that X is as chosen and part of CMC when the spell is on the stack, but adjustments to the cost are not part of the CMC on the stack.

    These are both true though

    So like, if you have Ugin and lurrus out and cast stonecoil serpent from the yard X can at most be 2 even though Ugin reduces the cost such that it costs 0

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Ok. I don't get it, and it doesn't work.

    It seems dumb that X is as chosen and part of CMC when the spell is on the stack, but adjustments to the cost are not part of the CMC on the stack.

    CMC is just the total amount of mana printed on the card regardless of color/type. 3WWW, 4BB, 4(u/r)(u/r), and 5G all are the same CMC (in this case 6) but wildly different mana costs. If something reduced the cost of your white spells by 1, Planar Cleansing would still have a CMC of 6 even though you only had to pay 2WWW to actually cast it.

    Nothing can change CMC for most objects. Those objects with an X in their mana cost do change their CMC when on the stack but everywhere else that CMC is always the same value (where X = 0) like everything else.

    The fact that Lurrus makes you actually pay for these things instead if just putting them on the battlefield is why it has the oddly-specific wording of "permanent spell with CMC 2 or less". Contrast, say, Necropanther, which just grabs a CMC 3 or less creature. You could get a Stonecoil Serpent that way, but unless you have something else going on you probably don't want to.

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