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The Day the Music Died - Act I: Rock Rebellion - A [Phalla] - It's Over!

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    House of the Rising Sun population is higher today than it was on D3 by 1. Going to post our house chat group list. We've been talking since at the latest D2 with each other. I know Jdark recommended not revealing info, but at this point either the mafia are in the ring or they already have a very good idea who is.

    House of Rising Sun:
    Gizzy
    MamaWolf
    Heffling
    BlueCyan
    *To be edited in later if permission is given*

    On Day 3 (when I had perfect info) we were at six population. Today we are at seven. This change happened today.

    ... your count's not quite right.

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Day 1
    5 Cj iwakura – discrider (10), Invictus (26), Gizzy (27), JPants (28), JusticforPluto (29)
    2 Jdarksunshalmelo (7), Lostninja (14)
    2 Heffling – cj iwakura (9), Phyphor (23)
    2 Wildcat – Gizzy (19), Zombie Hero (24), premium (25)
    2 InvictusAuralynx (30), kime (31)

    1 Obifett – Bluecyan (1)
    1 Shalmelojdarksun (2)
    1 JusticeforPluto – Wildcat (3)
    1 Green/H3 Knuckles – mamawolf (4), mamawolf (17)
    1 Bluecyan – Heffling (6)
    1 PhyphorGizzy (13), Invictus (15), romanqwerty (16)
    1 Romanqwerty – ObiFett (18)
    1 Zombie Hero – 38thDoe (22)
    1 Mamawolf – Green/H3 (5), discrider (8)

    0 Kime – romanqwerty (11), JPants (20)
    0 Discrider – mamawolf (12)
    0 Gizzy – Auralynx (21)

    Day 2
    8 CJ iwakuraDiscrider (1), Heffling (2), romanqwerty (4), Obifett (9), JPants (10), Auralynx (11), Gizzy (15), shalmelo (16), 38thdoe (18)
    4 Bluecyan – Gizzy (3), Mamawolf (5), Zombie Hero (6), Kime (8), premium (17), Discrider (19), CJ iwakura(20)
    4 Green/H3 Knuckles – Bluecyan (12), Mamawolf (13), Discrider (22), jdarksun (23)
    1 AuralynxJpants (7), Justice for Pluto (21)
    1 premium – Wildcat (14)

    Missing votes: H3/Green, LostNinja

    Day 3
    4 Romanqwerty – Mamawolf (5), shalmelo (16), Zombie Hero (18), premium (19), discrider (20)
    4 Lost Ninja – Heffling (2), JPants (9), Green/H3 (10), romanqwerty (15)
    4 Premium – Gizzy (7), Bluecyan (8), mamawolf (12), wildcat (14), discrider (17)
    2 ShalmeloDiscrider (3), Lost Ninja (6), jdarksun (13)
    1 Jdarksun – Obifett (11)
    0 Green/H3 – Lost Ninja (1)
    0 Kime – romanqwerty (4)

    Missing votes: 38thDoe, JusticeforPluto, kime

    Day 4
    5 Shalmelo – wildcat (2), Bluecyan (4), mamawolf (5), romanqwerty (20), discrider (21), Obifett (22)
    5 Zombie Hero – Lostninja (10), Heffling (11), 38thDoe (12), shalmelo (13), kime (16), H3Knuckles (19)
    3 kime – Gizzy (7), Zombie Hero (17), JPants (18)
    2 Romanqwerty – JusticeforPluto (3), discrider (6), kime (8), Obifett (23)

    1 Discrider - 38thdoe (14)
    0 Jpants – discrider (9)
    0 JusticeforPluto - Zombie Hero (15)
    0 Lost Ninja – romanqwerty (1)

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    House of the Rising Sun population is higher today than it was on D3 by 1. Going to post our house chat group list. We've been talking since at the latest D2 with each other. I know Jdark recommended not revealing info, but at this point either the mafia are in the ring or they already have a very good idea who is.

    House of Rising Sun:
    Gizzy
    MamaWolf
    Heffling
    BlueCyan
    *To be edited in later if permission is given*

    On Day 3 (when I had perfect info) we were at six population. Today we are at seven. This change happened today.

    ... your count's not quite right.

    His count is correct for those that have given permission to share this information.

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    BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    @Gizzy thanks for the count, minor correction, D3 you have mamawolf twice, should X out the Roman vote (had three way tie)

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Thanks! corrected

    ** another small correction, realized I didn't have H3/Green's vote counted on Day 1

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    JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    So it looks like ZH was pushed in an effort to save Shalmelo.

    LostNinja for now.

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    JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    After looking at those vote records i don't feel any better about kime and way worse about discrider.

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Is it that time? Time for what? For a Gizzy list I just spent hours thinking about and typing? Yes it is!


    1. 38thDoe – village feel
    due to conversations, no strong read from vote record, could change depending on H3 alignment.
    Claimed converted to partisan D2; Turned back into a villager D3
    Day 1 – Only vote on ZH. It doesn’t seem like any of the wagons were on mafia. no read.
    Day 2 – Last vote on winning CJ, shortly after 2 mafia voted. If H3 turns up mafia this could look bad.
    Day 3 – Missed the vote
    Day 4 – voted ZH, competing wagons were roman and shalmelo. I talked him out of voting ZH, he then moved vote to discrider


    3. Bluecyan – Village
    Day 1 – first vote of the day, only vote on Obifett – no read
    Day 2 – first vote on H3/Green after wagons on himself and CJ formed. Mafia pushed vote on Blue. – reads village.
    Day 3 – pushed vote on mafia – village read
    Day 4 – pushed vote on mafia – village read

    5. Discrider - Village
    Day 1 – First vote on CJ, wagons hadn’t formed – no read
    Day 2 – First vote on CJ, moved to Bluecyan, moved to H3/Green – could look good if H3 is mafia
    Day 3 – First vote on shalmelo (mafia), moved to premium (mafia) in a good push position, then moved to roman after two other mafia votes. Could be a bad look.
    Day 4 – Pushed romanqwerty as steam was building on shalmelo, moved to Jpants shortly thereafter, revealed converting shalmelo to partisan, then tied the vote on shalmelo. Could be read like mafia accussing mafia to look good. My personal feel is village move.

    6. Gizzy – Village of course
    Day 1 – Lots of suspicious vote movement! Voted to Phyphor, then he revealed game info. Voted for wildcat for no reason. Then moved vote to CJ agreeing that his comments seemed weird.
    Day 2 – Voted Bluecyan early, moved vote to CJ jumping competing wagons. Mafia vote movement happened right afterwards. This one could look shady, again depends on H3.
    Day 3 – Voted mafia, first vote on wagon. Not really any competing wagons at the time, couple of votes on shalmelo.
    Day 4 – steam building on shalmelo, but voted for kime (reason being because at the time discrider was vouching for shalmelo). Could look bad if kime is village.

    7. Green H3Knuckles – leaning suspicious
    Day 1 – Green had early vote on mamawolf. – no read
    Day 2 – missed the vote
    Day 3 – voted for Lost Ninja instead of wagons on premium/shalmelo. Could look bad if LostNinja is village. Would be hilarious if lost was mafia.
    Day 4 – Pushed ZH instead of shalmelo – bad look (if ZH is village)

    8. Heffling – mostly no read
    based on votes with exception of day 4, leaning village due to house conversation
    Day 1 – Early vote on bluecyan – no read
    Day 2 – Early vote on CJ – no read
    Day 3 – Early vote on Lost Ninja – no read
    Day 4 – Vote on ZH when shalmelo wagon had some steam – bad look (if ZH is village)

    11. JPants – no read
    based on votes until other alignments are revealed
    Day 1 – later vote on CJ, possible competing wagons were jdark, heffling, wildcat, (invictus had no votes at this time), - no read
    Day 2 – mid CJ wagon, H3 had no votes on him at the time – no read
    Day 3 – pushed LostNinja over premium/shalmelo. Looks bad, unless lost is mafia.
    Day 4 – pushed kime wagon instead of shalmelo. Looks bad, unless kime is mafia.

    12. JusticeforPluto - Suspicious
    Day 1 – Late vote on CJ, jdark/heff/wildcat were tied at 2 (no votes on invlctus at this time) – no read
    Day 2 – Late vote on Auralynx, avoiding all wagons. Slight m-vibe.
    Day 3 - Missing vote
    Day 4 – Early vote on roman, who mafia tried to push on day 3. M-vibe

    13. Kime - Suspicious
    Day 1 – last vote of the day on Invictus .. looks weird b/c Invictus seemed village then won the vote. But could be whatever b/c day 1 – slight m-vibe
    Day 2 – On Bluecyan wagon before H3 had any votes – no read
    Day 3 – Missing vote
    Day 4 – Pushing ZH instead of shalmelo, vote happened while he had 1 vote on himself so was not one of the wagons at the time – Looks bad, unless ZH is mafia

    14. LostNinja – Leaning village
    Day 1 – voted jdark, 14th vote of the day, no wagons at the time – no read
    Day 2 – Missing vote
    Day 3 – 2nd vote on shalmelo (mafia), before disc moved his vote off. Later that day became a wagon himself competing against 2 mafia. Those 2 mafia didn’t vote for him though. – mostly village read
    Day 4 – Voted ZH while shalmelo and roman wagons were building steam – could look bad, unless ZH is mafia

    15. MamaWolf - Village
    Day 1 – Green/H3, to Discrider, back to Green/H3 – no read
    Day 2 – Moved from Bluecyan to H3/Green – no read
    Day 3 – moved from roman to good push position on premium wagon – village
    Day 4 – good early push position on shalmelo wagon – village

    16. ObiFett - Suspicious
    Day 1 – 18th vote of the day, only vote on roman – no read
    Day 2 – Middle of CJ wagon – no read
    Day 3 – 11th vote of the day, only vote on jdark. Avoided Lost Ninja/premium/shalmelo wagons – m-vibe
    Day 4 – Last votes of the day, late vote on shalmelo, moved off to roman – m-vibe

    19. Romanqwerty - Village
    Day 1 – wagon steam position on Phyphor, left vote there after wagon dissipated – could be slight m-vibe
    Day 2 – earlyish on CJ wagon – no read
    Day 3 – 2 mafia tried to vote him out, seemed to be winning the vote – Village
    Day 4 – pushed shalmelo vote – Village

    21. Wildcat - Village
    Day 1 – Early and only vote on J4P, push vote by premium before CJ wagon formed – Village
    Day 2 – Voted premium, 13th vote of the day and only vote while there were other wagons – this could read as villager responding to being voted for day 1
    Day 3 – Good position on premium – Village
    Day 4 – Early vote on shalmelo – village

    22. Zombie Hero – Village
    (for those meta reasons everyone hates)
    Day 1 – Late day vote on wildcat, followed by premium – doesn’t seem like mafia would have a reason to pile together here so this reads village to me.
    Day 2 – Pushed bluecyan, premium also pushed bluecyan. ZH’s vote was at a point where the only wagon was CJ. I think normally I might say slight m-vibes but we were talking and voting blue for the same reasons that day.
    Day 3 – Right between two mafia on roman when the other wagons were those 2 mafia. Looks bad, but like he said in a funny too bad kind of way.
    Day 4 – He pushed kime, shalmelo (mafia) pushed ZH – looking village to me

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Re-reading everyone I found suspicious - I think I'm feeling the most wary of Obifett

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    But also, seeing H3's alignment would help me make stronger opinions on several people. So from an information standpoint, I'd be cool with that vote.

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    MamaWolfMamaWolf The wolf pack guides all to safetyRegistered User regular
    My analysis while not hours spent on it just gut feelings.

    1. 38thDoe – village vibe

    3. Bluecyan – village because of communication we've had and been very pro village from day 1.

    5. Discrider - though we don't have our usual "You're mafia" tit for tat, I only assume it's because we both realize neither of us are actually mafia.

    6. Gizzy – Village because of her analysis

    7. Green H3Knuckles – obviously voted day 1 because spouse originally, but seriously too quiet even when trying to communicate. Mafia vibes

    8. Heffling – village vibes

    11. JPants – mixed views

    12. JusticeforPluto - Mixed views because of quietness as well.

    13. Kime - mafia cause Kime and I attempted to reach out through message and litterally got back "just letting you know I saw this" and nothing else. Though this could be cause Kime forgot about it and just never got back.

    14. LostNinja – Village vibes though I'm not 100% on that

    15. MamaWolf - Village cause well I said so

    16. ObiFett - mafia vibes

    19. Romanqwerty - mixed feels

    21. Wildcat - Village

    22. Zombie Hero – Village maybe...I'm not 100% on this either

    My vote Kime cause I don't want to judge H3 based off of Green if he was possibly just being quiet cause of not feeling well. But H3 is high on my list.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Here's where I'm at in this game:

    I left a clue about my house on like Day 1. No one reached out. Jdark said its bad to tell anyone your house. So I've not reached out to anyone since.

    Yesterday, I was on board with Shalmelo being voted out (hence my vote post saying I was putting a vote in stone). Then I swapped out to keep the tie to force other people to make a choice.

    Fwiw, looking at my activity objectively, I too would think I'm mafia. But not sure what else I should be doing this game.

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    38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Don’t swap off targets to make a tie when there is much vote manipulation?

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Ah I see your house clue now, prob way too subtle!

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    House of the Rising Sun population is higher today than it was on D3 by 1. Going to post our house chat group list. We've been talking since at the latest D2 with each other. I know Jdark recommended not revealing info, but at this point either the mafia are in the ring or they already have a very good idea who is.

    House of Rising Sun:
    Gizzy
    MamaWolf
    Heffling
    BlueCyan
    *To be edited in later if permission is given*

    On Day 3 (when I had perfect info) we were at six population. Today we are at seven. This change happened today.

    ... your count's not quite right.

    His count is correct for those that have given permission to share this information.

    So are you saying there's one more confirmed person who hasn't given authority for their name to be revealed?

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    edited July 2020
    I bbc code badly, will repost my vote.

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    JusticeForPluto because he was decently active early, then dropped off the face of the earth.

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    House of the Rising Sun population is higher today than it was on D3 by 1. Going to post our house chat group list. We've been talking since at the latest D2 with each other. I know Jdark recommended not revealing info, but at this point either the mafia are in the ring or they already have a very good idea who is.

    House of Rising Sun:
    Gizzy
    MamaWolf
    Heffling
    BlueCyan
    *To be edited in later if permission is given*

    On Day 3 (when I had perfect info) we were at six population. Today we are at seven. This change happened today.

    ... your count's not quite right.

    His count is correct for those that have given permission to share this information.

    So are you saying there's one more confirmed person who hasn't given authority for their name to be revealed?

    In our group chat? No, there's just one who hasn't given permission. Our 6th member is a mystery person who is not part of the chat / hasn't revealed or reported in.

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Wildcat wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    House of the Rising Sun population is higher today than it was on D3 by 1. Going to post our house chat group list. We've been talking since at the latest D2 with each other. I know Jdark recommended not revealing info, but at this point either the mafia are in the ring or they already have a very good idea who is.

    House of Rising Sun:
    Gizzy
    MamaWolf
    Heffling
    BlueCyan
    *To be edited in later if permission is given*

    On Day 3 (when I had perfect info) we were at six population. Today we are at seven. This change happened today.

    ... your count's not quite right.

    His count is correct for those that have given permission to share this information.

    So are you saying there's one more confirmed person who hasn't given authority for their name to be revealed?

    In our group chat? No, there's just one who hasn't given permission. Our 6th member is a mystery person who is not part of the chat / hasn't revealed or reported in.

    Aah, now I understand - thanks.

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    But also, seeing H3's alignment would help me make stronger opinions on several people. So from an information standpoint, I'd be cool with that vote.

    I would not be cool with that vote.

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    Kime and J4P feel the most suspicious to me at the moment. I keep changing my opinion of discrider every 10 minutes or so :P

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    romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    I like Gizzy's analysis. I agree with most of that there.


    Kime is the top of my suspicious list.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    If someone changed house, I think we should be attempting to find that person.
    Because there should be a 1982 Mafia, and they likely jumped ship.

    But I don't have much info on who's claimed what to figure out who hasn't claimed and might now have joined the house of Sun.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    .... Or divide and conquer involves changing a player's house?

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I think I'm alright to vote for Kime again.

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    romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    Who said a little while back that you shouldn't reveal your house?

    I'm starting to think more and more that the village should publicly reveal what houses they are since it is almost certain that the mafia has that info anyway.

    I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'm 1982.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    That'd be Jdark who died because of their shalmelo votes at the very least.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Don’t swap off targets to make a tie when there is much vote manipulation?

    eh, gotta do something to create an interesting voting trail and discussion.

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    H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    Who said a little while back that you shouldn't reveal your house?

    I'm starting to think more and more that the village should publicly reveal what houses they are since it is almost certain that the mafia has that info anyway.

    I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'm 1982.

    jdarksun (village) was concerned that it only aided mafia and partisans, so it wasn't in vanillagers interests to communicate their house. But that was early game when there was a lot less information about. At this point the consensus is that ne'er-do-wells can piece enough together that it doesn't really matter anymore.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    kime

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    He also said this -after- becoming the 7th Heaven Built house member by telling me while I was counting in thread.
    So, he may have been wondering who would agree with him.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    kime-wagon woooooo

    I feel like the reasoning is..... lacking? Which is pretty bad on day 5 lol

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    romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    @kime

    Your vote history is bad and none of the 3 village coordinated house groups vouch for you as working with them (to the best of my knowledge). Claim a house and explain the lack of contact and I might move my vote to one of the other people who also fail those two criteria.

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    kime-wagon woooooo

    I feel like the reasoning is..... lacking? Which is pretty bad on day 5 lol

    Weak mafia argument is weak, old buddy...

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    @kime

    Your vote history is bad and none of the 3 village coordinated house groups vouch for you as working with them (to the best of my knowledge). Claim a house and explain the lack of contact and I might move my vote to one of the other people who also fail those two criteria.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I'm not sure my vote history is that bad though grumble Grumble

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    GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Yeah I thought jfp’s and obi’s votes looked a little worse, hence going a different direction today. But now you claiming heaven house has me O.o

    8 member party house eh?

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Yeah I thought jfp’s and obi’s votes looked a little worse, hence going a different direction today. But now you claiming heaven house has me O.o

    8 member party house eh?

    Don't blame me!

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Yeah I thought jfp’s and obi’s votes looked a little worse, hence going a different direction today. But now you claiming heaven house has me O.o

    8 member party house eh?

    Don't blame me!

    Oh, but we will.

    Having said that, !JusticeforPluto.

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    BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Yeah I thought jfp’s and obi’s votes looked a little worse, hence going a different direction today. But now you claiming heaven house has me O.o

    8 member party house eh?

    That's actually agrees with what I have seen. SUPER weird for kime to claim Heaven at this point, other two houses would have been a safer call. Ironically this is about the only thing that gives me pause. But if my other option is Obi then kime has a better chance of turning up red.

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