The reaction to Black Lives Matter really tells you all you need to know about just how goddamned racist the typical white person is in the USA
And you have people who will agree with the idea that black lives matter, but won't say it, because they're convinced the movement is a communist conspiracy
Big if true, or whatever kids were saying a few years ago
The reaction to Black Lives Matter really tells you all you need to know about just how goddamned racist the typical white person is in the USA
And you have people who will agree with the idea that black lives matter, but won't say it, because they're convinced the movement is a communist conspiracy
Big if true, or whatever kids were saying a few years ago
"Big if true" is actually a Richard Dawkins quote!
It was a reply tweet to a MRA talking point.
Dawkins is not on twitter anymore.
Children's rights are human rights.
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The Australian government conspired with American military leaders to keep black US sailors from taking shore leave whilst in Aussie ports during WWII.
So, here was a bunch of blokes, who just risked their lives fighting back the Japanese from our doorstep, being told they were not welcome to rest and relax before they shipped out to fight the Japanese again
On the other hand, after the war we largely denied them the promised benefits of the GI bill which wildly deepened socioeconomic inequalities
Have they been pushing the BLM = communist angle in the mainstream media ?
I’ve had two boomers recently start talking to me about the being on the watch for communists. It’s notable because anti-communist rhetoric is not as common down here in NZ. They’re picking it up from somewhere.
Have they been pushing the BLM = communist angle in the mainstream media ?
I’ve had two boomers recently start talking to me about the being on the watch for communists. It’s notable because anti-communist rhetoric is not as common down here in NZ. They’re picking it up from somewhere.
Yes. There's a common thread in black rights and liberation movements with various marxist ideologies. Enough so that some feel they can claim the entire effort is Marxist.
It's because Black Lives Matter was founded by Marxists. But it's also important to note there is a difference between Black Lives Matter and black lives matter. One of them is an organization that does protests and stuff, the other is a fucking reason for protest and reform and oversight. There's overlap between the two, fucking obviously, but the only thing the right is leaning on is the overlap and they're calling the whole movement Marxist and that's bad because they don't know what Marxism actually means.
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Rev Dr MLK Jr spoke about capitalism's failings a lot. There's a ton of intersectionality with black rights movements and other things, the least of which is "holy shit capitalism sucks." So when the alt-right is calling BLM "communist" and such like, okay. Not exactly a pejorative.
I agree, but I don't think saying "black lives matter" automagically makes you a fuckin' communist, or a socialist, or an anarchist or whatever. It just means you support the literal phrase "black lives matter" with no implied underpinnings or assumptions. Or at least, it should.
I agree, but I don't think saying "black lives matter" automagically makes you a fuckin' communist, or a socialist, or an anarchist or whatever. It just means you support the literal phrase "black lives matter" with no implied underpinnings or assumptions. Or at least, it should.
Or maybe I'm being naive. I'd buy that, too.
I agree with you, I'm just saying that the idea that BLM = Marxist is common in online discussion I've seen on the right, like I don't think it really is Marxist but a lot of people are definitely calling it that
I agree, but I don't think saying "black lives matter" automagically makes you a fuckin' communist, or a socialist, or an anarchist or whatever. It just means you support the literal phrase "black lives matter" with no implied underpinnings or assumptions. Or at least, it should.
Or maybe I'm being naive. I'd buy that, too.
I agree with you, I'm just saying that the idea that BLM = Marxist is common in online discussion I've seen on the right, like I don't think it really is Marxist but a lot of people are definitely calling it that
The same kind of people call anything involving LGBT rights Marxist too. Extremely one note.
I agree, but I don't think saying "black lives matter" automagically makes you a fuckin' communist, or a socialist, or an anarchist or whatever. It just means you support the literal phrase "black lives matter" with no implied underpinnings or assumptions. Or at least, it should.
Or maybe I'm being naive. I'd buy that, too.
I agree with you, I'm just saying that the idea that BLM = Marxist is common in online discussion I've seen on the right, like I don't think it really is Marxist but a lot of people are definitely calling it that
Oh, for sure, it's my mom's only talking point about BLM, and I'm 100% sure it's because she's in some weird facebook echo chamber. At least I've pointed out some of the shit she's been saying is wrong and she's accepted it, but it's a long and tiring road where she keeps believing facebook posts over me, even though I've been right every time, and every time it takes me a half an hour to prove it to her. It's even more frustrating because she is smart enough to do research and come to her own conclusions, but she seems to believe that onus is on the people posting shit on facebook, even though it definitely is not.
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Well now you see, you must ALWAYS be mindful and vigilant of the dirty pinko socialist Marxist leftist commie anarchist unionist, because they hide under your bed and infiltrate your places of learning, indoctrinating your children into the ways of thinking for themselves, and caring about their fellow man.
So of course, kill all pinko socialist Marxist leftist commie anarchist unionists now and forever if you're a true red-blooded patriot!
I was legitimately excited about the communists I kept hearing people rant and rave and worry and fear mongering about, on account of you now, being interested in communism and real actual socialism, and being the only person like that I know, but turns out there are not big groups of commies running around
That's a HUGE thing in UK online discourse amongst the right at the moment, that BLM is Marxist
In fact I've never seen so much use of the word Marxist before
this has lead to an interesting times-they-are-a-changin' thing. i'm seeing a whole lot of accusations of communism/socialism toward BLM folks, and more and more the response is becoming "yeah, what of it." that ain't to say everyone marching and/or shitposting is actually a commie, but the accusation doesn't carry nearly the weight it did ten or even five years ago
i think the red scare shit is dying out along with the boomers who grew up with it. it wasn't that long ago that you said you were a socialist and people would make the sign of the cross and call in an airstrike. people do all that patronizing works-on-paper shit still, but leftist ideas aren't the automatic conversation stopper anymore that they've always been
I was legitimately excited about the communists I kept hearing people rant and rave and worry and fear mongering about, on account of you now, being interested in communism and real actual socialism, and being the only person like that I know, but turns out there are not big groups of commies running around
Clearly, you're not watching enough Fox News.
Commies are EVERYWHERE!
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Here's the Republican litmus test on figuring out who is a "commie" and who isn't. When presented a problem with government or a disagreement about American politics, do you
a) use the power of the 1st Amendment
b) use the threat of the 2nd Amendment
If you answered 'a' you're a dirty filthy un-American Communist. If you answered 'b' you're a real American*.
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Sure love that the chief of police for my city lives out in fucking Snohomish.
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even if it's not her primary residence it's still "some peaceful protesters went to a building I have listed on a document using a public road and my part-time neighbors illegally chased them off and illegally blocked the road and this is good"
BahamutZERO yeah, I thought the same thing when I heard the news.
"Officers found" would be the language used in an incident report if someone had either called in the shots or the presence of a body. It's basically saying "This was the situation when we got here".
I'm not saying that the case isn't in fact that the officers discovered the body independent of a 911 call but the possibility that the tweeter in question or the originating article misunderstood the police reports version of events.
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How the police claim they found the victim seems largely irrelevant, on account of the police being liars and all. The suspiciousness of a highly visible local youth who was leading organization of anti-police activism being shot remains.
How the police claim they found the victim seems largely irrelevant, on account of the police being liars and all. The suspiciousness of a highly visible local youth who was leading organization of anti-police activism being shot remains.
Well yeah, but there's a difference between rational suspicion and building a conspiracy narrative partially off a misinterpretation.
That all aside the victim deserves justice and I doubt he'll get that from CPD
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I would be more credulous if these bastard cops didn't have a rich and storied history of assassinating human rights activists, especially POCs.
Sure, he may well have been a victim of a robbery gone wrong or something. I'm not prepared to rule out a bastard cop assassinating another young community organiser.
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Putin for sure sucks but also I'm all the way sick of liberal's wild excursion into fanatic McCarthyism
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I think they are referring to how Trump idolizes Putin and how he emulates his fascistic tactics.
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The reaction to Black Lives Matter really tells you all you need to know about just how goddamned racist the typical white person is in the USA
And you have people who will agree with the idea that black lives matter, but won't say it, because they're convinced the movement is a communist conspiracy
Big if true, or whatever kids were saying a few years ago
"Big if true" is actually a Richard Dawkins quote!
It was a reply tweet to a MRA talking point.
Dawkins is not on twitter anymore.
On the other hand, after the war we largely denied them the promised benefits of the GI bill which wildly deepened socioeconomic inequalities
So
Both hands are bad I guess
I’ve had two boomers recently start talking to me about the being on the watch for communists. It’s notable because anti-communist rhetoric is not as common down here in NZ. They’re picking it up from somewhere.
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Yes. There's a common thread in black rights and liberation movements with various marxist ideologies. Enough so that some feel they can claim the entire effort is Marxist.
In fact I've never seen so much use of the word Marxist before
Or maybe I'm being naive. I'd buy that, too.
I agree with you, I'm just saying that the idea that BLM = Marxist is common in online discussion I've seen on the right, like I don't think it really is Marxist but a lot of people are definitely calling it that
The same kind of people call anything involving LGBT rights Marxist too. Extremely one note.
Oh, for sure, it's my mom's only talking point about BLM, and I'm 100% sure it's because she's in some weird facebook echo chamber. At least I've pointed out some of the shit she's been saying is wrong and she's accepted it, but it's a long and tiring road where she keeps believing facebook posts over me, even though I've been right every time, and every time it takes me a half an hour to prove it to her. It's even more frustrating because she is smart enough to do research and come to her own conclusions, but she seems to believe that onus is on the people posting shit on facebook, even though it definitely is not.
So of course, kill all pinko socialist Marxist leftist commie anarchist unionists now and forever if you're a true red-blooded patriot!
this has lead to an interesting times-they-are-a-changin' thing. i'm seeing a whole lot of accusations of communism/socialism toward BLM folks, and more and more the response is becoming "yeah, what of it." that ain't to say everyone marching and/or shitposting is actually a commie, but the accusation doesn't carry nearly the weight it did ten or even five years ago
i think the red scare shit is dying out along with the boomers who grew up with it. it wasn't that long ago that you said you were a socialist and people would make the sign of the cross and call in an airstrike. people do all that patronizing works-on-paper shit still, but leftist ideas aren't the automatic conversation stopper anymore that they've always been
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How many fucking houses does the chief have?
Clearly, you're not watching enough Fox News.
Commies are EVERYWHERE!
a) use the power of the 1st Amendment
b) use the threat of the 2nd Amendment
If you answered 'a' you're a dirty filthy un-American Communist. If you answered 'b' you're a real American*.
* - as long as your complexion is light enough
@BahamutZERO yeah, I thought the same thing when I heard the news.
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"Officers found" would be the language used in an incident report if someone had either called in the shots or the presence of a body. It's basically saying "This was the situation when we got here".
I'm not saying that the case isn't in fact that the officers discovered the body independent of a 911 call but the possibility that the tweeter in question or the originating article misunderstood the police reports version of events.
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Well yeah, but there's a difference between rational suspicion and building a conspiracy narrative partially off a misinterpretation.
That all aside the victim deserves justice and I doubt he'll get that from CPD
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Ah, so that's where all the incorrectly drawn swastika graffiti around here comes from!
Nah you guys are always fucking talking. You just hear someone else speaking as your silence
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Sure, he may well have been a victim of a robbery gone wrong or something. I'm not prepared to rule out a bastard cop assassinating another young community organiser.
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that $10,000 he spent on facebook ads in 2016 went a long fucking way