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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    It was so funny that you posted that question while I was running an Excel basics webex for my team with Vlookup, Index...Match and Pivot Tables. I agree though - I'd love to get a bit more familiar with Mysql as I have a project to make my life easier that I was thinking about using Access for, but it would be interesting to see what other options might be out there.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Access' strong point, and I really hate this, is that you can make UI for people that are scared of databases and queries.

    You can also save queries that work a bit like normal sql views.

    It's a great "baby's first database", it's also a great tool that gets a lot of hate too. I'd rather see a dozen access databases than a single 20 gig excel workbook with vlookups. The latter is such a big pain in the ass to actually transition to actual tools once you grow past excel.

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    The only thing I can remember about assigned books was for catcher in the rye, mainly because I hated it so much and wrote my entire paper about how much it sucked.

    I guess somewhere in that rant I had expressed comprehension of what I had read because I'm pretty sure the screed got full marks.

    I read Catcher in the Rye of my own volition (while on vacation in Greece, as it happened). Definitely the book I hated the most while reading it.

    I absolutely loathe Catcher in the Rye. Maybe I was missing the point of the book, but a story of a self-loathing, self-aggrandizing asshole, who's an asshole to others while trying to scam other people thinking he's more than what he is for the scope of an entire book is just...bleagh. I'm sure there was a point to the story, but actively hating the main narrator and his obsessive use of "phoney" was just too much for me to tolerate.

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I have gone through so many different flavors of hating that book, I’m starting to think it might be a work of genius.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    VLOOKUP is dead

    Long live XLOOKUP

    (Offer only valid for office 365 users)

    Amazing, now I can fuck up in the vertical and the horizontal at the same time, just like real life!

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    It's a shitty kid who learns that maybe at least one thing isn't shitty in the end.

    Idk. I definitely liked catcher in high school but I was struggling to escape some shitty situations then. I'll likely never read it again but I liked the perspective when I needed it

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I have gone through so many different flavors of hating that book, I’m starting to think it might be a work of genius.

    Maybe the meaning was the assholes we meet along the way...

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    The book, and work in general, I railed against the hardest was in college when we were assigned to read a chapter of James Joyce's "Ulysses"

    I cannot put together the words that fully encapsulate the hatred I have for that book

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    I have a copy of Ulysses in the library but solely for the purposes of Banned Book Week and its integral place in book censorship history.

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I actually rather liked Ulysses. I feel like Joyce is extremely up front with the fact that he derives all his nourishment from the smell of his own farts, it makes it easier to get into it, somehow.

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Fuck if I’m ever reading it again, though.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    expendable wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Once you start using vlookup more than once in a blue moon you might seriously consider using a DB like access or mysql.

    You can import excel spreadsheets into most and then you get the full power of queries and views instead of vlookups that chug spreadsheets to death and take 15 minutes to open.

    The best part is you can export that shit right back into a form excel can consume if someone above you needs a report. Hardest part is convincing other people who need to work with the data to use it over excel, but if you're solo riding it ain't no thing.

    So lets say every year I was required to inventory my entire building and then after listing everything (in a different format every year that always ends up with dozens and dozens of tabs, rather annoying) in a Google Sheet, would be required at various points throughout the year to give counts of things or gather certain information that mean using a vlookup as a one time thing or going tab by tab to count things manually.

    What does the hivemind recommend as the "learn mysql" starter pack that I could grab to start learning a new skill AND make my life easier?

    Online learning for it is cheap and plentiful.
    Coursera, Udemy, etc.

  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    That’s an easy choice, man, you’d probably only get through it like 3 or 4 times.

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Once you start using vlookup more than once in a blue moon you might seriously consider using a DB like access or mysql.

    You can import excel spreadsheets into most and then you get the full power of queries and views instead of vlookups that chug spreadsheets to death and take 15 minutes to open.

    The best part is you can export that shit right back into a form excel can consume if someone above you needs a report. Hardest part is convincing other people who need to work with the data to use it over excel, but if you're solo riding it ain't no thing.

    I don't have access to any database

    I have had opportunity to run vlookup like twice in six months, which is why I cannot remember how to do it

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I actually rather liked Ulysses. I feel like Joyce is extremely up front with the fact that he derives all his nourishment from the smell of his own farts, it makes it easier to get into it, somehow.

    It's not just Joyce's fascination with his own farts but all the academics huffing them too claiming there's so much meaning in what is explicitly a meaningless book and it's just so deep as they crawl up his ass seeking more.

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I don’t think it’s accurate to say the book is meaningless.

    It’s so densely written you can dig up an awful lot of whatever evidence you might need to support a given reading, I’ll grant you that

    but I hardly think that counts as meaningless.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    That’s an easy choice, man, you’d probably only get through it like 3 or 4 times.

    Everything's coming up Millhouse with this choice.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    I've always been curious about Joyce, but talk about being high on your own supply. The guy wrote Finnegan's Wake, and that's just...I'm not sure what to call it other than maybe a literary trainwreck written in dreamspeak.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    In terms of non-white authors*, one thing I was surprised by going to high school in rural Michigan was the standard English class reading list included:

    Native Son by Richard Wright
    Rasin in the Sun Lorraine Hansberry
    Black Like MeJohn Howard Griffin

    *okay, so excluding Griffin from that description

  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

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  • David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    The person doing stock reconciliation for us, X, works for our Irish sister company and gave her notice recently. I wasn't informed of this immediately, despite being responsible for supply and working quite closely with her, but I knew it was happening because she started CC'ing person Y on all her emails. So, OK, training the replacement. Eventually I'm told (very surprised reaction when my only response is "yeah, already figured that out") and X will be leaving in the middle of this month, while Y takes over her duties.

    Anyway, here's this weeks timeline:
    Monday: X sends out her "goodbye and thanks for the time here" email.
    Tuesday: Our trading partner sends out an email about a change in a recent invoice and CC's X on it, as normal.
    This morning: I email them back saying "Hey, X has unfortunately decided to leave the company, could you please copy Y in on all future communication?".
    This afternoon: Guy from finance comes over, "oh hey, another person quit in Ireland, Y is leaving by end of this week".

    ... seriously??

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
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    DoctorArch wrote: »
    I've always been curious about Joyce, but talk about being high on your own supply. The guy wrote Finnegan's Wake, and that's just...I'm not sure what to call it other than maybe a literary trainwreck written in dreamspeak.

    Portrait of the Artist is about the only Joyce novel I consider re-readable without needing to be checked for any underlying psychoses. Though I think Pynchon and Proust we're even higher up their own colons than Joyce.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I liked raisin in the sun but holy shit did it make me incredibly angry

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Access' strong point, and I really hate this, is that you can make UI for people that are scared of databases and queries.

    You can also save queries that work a bit like normal sql views.

    It's a great "baby's first database", it's also a great tool that gets a lot of hate too. I'd rather see a dozen access databases than a single 20 gig excel workbook with vlookups. The latter is such a big pain in the ass to actually transition to actual tools once you grow past excel.

    And in modern parlance - use Power Automate, Forms etc. and worst case dump into a CSV. Modern tech has made this shit so easy.

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  • expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    At some point district sent out a survey about school support stuff. I dunno, they send out surveys a lot lately and I tend to not bother with them because I'm busy.

    I just got a little congratulatory email about being called out by name for positive things in the district-wide survey.

    So that's nice and makes today a little brighter.

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    So the servers suddenly decide to cramp up during the last six percent.
    Man, the Director will really go out of his way to be a dick to L4D players.
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  • WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    It just keeps adding on. Knocked my head on the corner of a shelf because my office is too small.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I'm on PTO for the next two days, pretty damn excited to not come into this stupid fucking bullshit job thank fuck

    Ah, that's better already

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.

    Rags to riches

    yeah maybe if you win the goddamn lottery

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Work just dropped another big due right now project on me and I'm pissed because there's no way it can be done in the timeframe, it's using the program I've never been formally trained in beyond the basics and to get the information I need I'll have to delve very deep, and ultimately none of this work will be of any importance because they're just using it as an attachment to a budget request; a justification no one is going to read beyond a minor skim.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.
    Hm. We all read about the lifestyles of the rich and famous, though? And everyone has tried to act or be someone they were not to impress someone they looked up to. Especially with fucking Insta and Twitter thrown in the mix. The book is also full of shorter observations that could be discussed in class. Like there's a little scene where a director has taken his young and beautiful star to the party and all evening he's just leaning in closer and closer to her. It should be possible for high schoolers to connect this to recent stories of powerful movie people abusing young and beautiful stars. I wrote earlier that the book should be read along with watching the 2013 movie.

    I feel kind of silly trying to defend a book written like a century ago. I don't think Fitzgerald needs to be put on some kind pedestal here. Just kinda disagree with the notion that people couldn't relate to the work any more in 2020.

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Today has been extremely quiet. I've finished any work that needs doing, and there's a couple more things I *could* be doing, but those are predicated on attorneys getting back to me, so...

  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    I wrapped myself in one of the green tablecloths in front of the green screen so now I'm a floating head.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.

    Rags to riches

    yeah maybe if you win the goddamn lottery

    Win the lottery then successfully avoid the con artists, sudden extended "family" popping out of the woodwork, and probably an attempt or two on your life if your state is the type to plaster your face and name on the announcement.

    Easy!

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    I wrapped myself in one of the green tablecloths in front of the green screen so now I'm a floating head.

    Careful, that could lead to someone attempting to bust a buster.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.

    Rags to riches

    yeah maybe if you win the goddamn lottery

    Win the lottery then successfully avoid the con artists, sudden extended "family" popping out of the woodwork, and probably an attempt or two on your life if your state is the type to plaster your face and name on the announcement.

    Easy!

    I want to say in some parts of the world it's normal for people to wear masks, etc. when claiming?

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.

    Rags to riches

    yeah maybe if you win the goddamn lottery

    Win the lottery then successfully avoid the con artists, sudden extended "family" popping out of the woodwork, and probably an attempt or two on your life if your state is the type to plaster your face and name on the announcement.

    Easy!

    I want to say in some parts of the world it's normal for people to wear masks, etc. when claiming?

    That doesn't do much when they publish your name as having newly acquired a lot of money and information security nowadays being a total joke so people can look you up really easily

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    So I guess a CDC guy said to expect a return to normalcy by 3rd quarter 2021. I haven't been to the office in a full 6 months now, if I go with WFH for a year and a half I don't know how I'll ever go back. The commute always sucked, but it will suck so much more knowing it's unnecessary.

    I might seriously consider if I could quit and make it as an indie dev when the time comes.

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