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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Aldo wrote: »
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    bowen wrote: »
    If I had to pick from Ulysses or Gatsby to read on repeat until my death I'd take Ulysses hands down every fucking time.

    Yeah Gatsby really loves that nihilistic look of "oh hey capitalism...yep...yep...it looks pretty cool at first, but then it ends up shit and all the fancy stuff you bought means nothing...you'll never get the girl...and people are terrible"

    That's always felt like the largest problem Gatsby has. People, high schoolers in particular, don't really relate to the rags to riches lifestyle of the roaring 20s and that it's completely unrelatable to anyone's personal life other than maybe you'll get shot by someone you pissed off through a series of really shit misunderstandings or someone accusing you of doing something you didn't.
    Hm. We all read about the lifestyles of the rich and famous, though? And everyone has tried to act or be someone they were not to impress someone they looked up to. Especially with fucking Insta and Twitter thrown in the mix. The book is also full of shorter observations that could be discussed in class. Like there's a little scene where a director has taken his young and beautiful star to the party and all evening he's just leaning in closer and closer to her. It should be possible for high schoolers to connect this to recent stories of powerful movie people abusing young and beautiful stars. I wrote earlier that the book should be read along with watching the 2013 movie.

    I feel kind of silly trying to defend a book written like a century ago. I don't think Fitzgerald needs to be put on some kind pedestal here. Just kinda disagree with the notion that people couldn't relate to the work any more in 2020.

    Sure but I still hate the book and hated reading it in high school versus To Kill a Mockingbird or the other dozens of better books. Shit I liked Ethan Frome better than Gatsby, and Frome was baaaaaaad.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    gimme sir arthur c clarke any day but teachers don't like sci fi books because lolnerds

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Lotta "I don't like it therefore it's bad" going on. Bet I could dig out a bunch of people who hate Arthur C Clarke (or rather the literature thereof) (pretty sure there's also a lot of people who hate him for other, unrelated reasons)

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  • Kayne Red RobeKayne Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    I liked Gatsby a lot actually, and even if you hate it the book is what, a hundred pages?

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I remember not liking that its spoken of as "the great american novel" more than the book itself.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Lotta "I don't like it therefore it's bad" going on. Bet I could dig out a bunch of people who hate Arthur C Clarke (or rather the literature thereof) (pretty sure there's also a lot of people who hate him for other, unrelated reasons)

    I feel like science fiction should have a place for high schoolers but Clarke isn't anywhere on the list. Not much I think he does especially well compared to others out there.

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  • expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    Tech at another school posts in the group chat. This person has been in this department longer than I have.

    OtherTech: This particular student (post screenshot of student name, dob, id#, etc) can't login to their Google account. We have tried on multiple devices and networks, is this an easy fix?

    Me: Check the admin console and see if it's locked out or disabled?

    OtherTech: It's not working.

    Manager 2 levels higher than us: I checked the console for you, the account is active.

    Me: Reset the password?

    OT: Still can't login.

    Manager: Do you have a good network connection?

    OT: Yes, tried on two different devices. I can login but the student account can't.

    Manager: Reset the password

    OT: It's not working.

    Manager: The account is being locked out with bad attempts. You need to reset the password.

    OT: We have a new device and it's still not working.

    Our Immediate Supervisor: Hey OT I just unlocked the account and reset the password.

    OT: working now

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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    expendable wrote: »
    Tech at another school posts in the group chat. This person has been in this department longer than I have.

    OtherTech: This particular student (post screenshot of student name, dob, id#, etc) can't login to their Google account. We have tried on multiple devices and networks, is this an easy fix?

    Me: Check the admin console and see if it's locked out or disabled?

    OtherTech: It's not working.

    Manager 2 levels higher than us: I checked the console for you, the account is active.

    Me: Reset the password?

    OT: Still can't login.

    Manager: Do you have a good network connection?

    OT: Yes, tried on two different devices. I can login but the student account can't.

    Manager: Reset the password

    OT: It's not working.

    Manager: The account is being locked out with bad attempts. You need to reset the password.

    OT: We have a new device and it's still not working.

    Our Immediate Supervisor: Hey OT I just unlocked the account and reset the password.

    OT: working now

    I'll facepalm for you expendable...*sigh*

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    expendable wrote: »
    Tech at another school posts in the group chat. This person has been in this department longer than I have.

    OtherTech: This particular student (post screenshot of student name, dob, id#, etc) can't login to their Google account. We have tried on multiple devices and networks, is this an easy fix?

    Me: Check the admin console and see if it's locked out or disabled?

    OtherTech: It's not working.

    Manager 2 levels higher than us: I checked the console for you, the account is active.

    Me: Reset the password?

    OT: Still can't login.

    Manager: Do you have a good network connection?

    OT: Yes, tried on two different devices. I can login but the student account can't.

    Manager: Reset the password

    OT: It's not working.

    Manager: The account is being locked out with bad attempts. You need to reset the password.

    OT: We have a new device and it's still not working.

    Our Immediate Supervisor: Hey OT I just unlocked the account and reset the password.

    OT: working now

    Hey I think I used to work with that person!

    ... I'm sorry...

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    We all used to work with that person at some point.

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    It looks like my district is definitely pushing towards a hybrid model next month. Half the students in the building at a time. A-K Monday-Tuesday. L-Z Thursday-Friday. Wednesday alternates. Class will be synchronous so if they are at home they still join the live class in the school through teams.

    I predict a shit-show. I'm more isolated so should be safer. If we let any students into the library, it will be under very controlled situations where they use hand sanitizer before entering and leaving.

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Have we talked about John Steinbeck?

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  • NoughtNought Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    The person doing stock reconciliation for us, X, works for our Irish sister company and gave her notice recently. I wasn't informed of this immediately, despite being responsible for supply and working quite closely with her, but I knew it was happening because she started CC'ing person Y on all her emails. So, OK, training the replacement. Eventually I'm told (very surprised reaction when my only response is "yeah, already figured that out") and X will be leaving in the middle of this month, while Y takes over her duties.

    Anyway, here's this weeks timeline:
    Monday: X sends out her "goodbye and thanks for the time here" email.
    Tuesday: Our trading partner sends out an email about a change in a recent invoice and CC's X on it, as normal.
    This morning: I email them back saying "Hey, X has unfortunately decided to leave the company, could you please copy Y in on all future communication?".
    This afternoon: Guy from finance comes over, "oh hey, another person quit in Ireland, Y is leaving by end of this week".

    ... seriously??

    I know this one.

    It's a good news/bad news situation.

    Good news, you wont have to deal with someone only half trained in the position.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    Have we talked about John Steinbeck?

    We did East of Eden in 11th grade. I'd never really encountered a generational story before. Also i remember something about syphilis. But i honestly can't recall anything about it despite remembering it fondly? Also it's real long. It was summer reading or i don't know if they could have justified it.

    though I think, generally grapes of wrath is the more traditional academic choice?

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    The manager who interviewed me for the EPP place added me on linkedin! Good sign, I think. Though I think there's one more interview to go at least.

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    Have we talked about John Steinbeck?

    We did East of Eden in 11th grade. I'd never really encountered a generational story before. Also i remember something about syphilis. But i honestly can't recall anything about it despite remembering it fondly? Also it's real long. It was summer reading or i don't know if they could have justified it.

    though I think, generally grapes of wrath is the more traditional academic choice?

    In my school district Of Mice & Men is the traditional Steinbeck novel read by every student in junior high.

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    Have we talked about John Steinbeck?

    We did East of Eden in 11th grade. I'd never really encountered a generational story before. Also i remember something about syphilis. But i honestly can't recall anything about it despite remembering it fondly? Also it's real long. It was summer reading or i don't know if they could have justified it.

    though I think, generally grapes of wrath is the more traditional academic choice?

    Personally east of Eden was a defining book for me. Lee's "thou mayest rule over sin" and meditating on psychopaths like Cathy are things I've come back to all my life.

    Agreed it's too long for school. Grapes of wrath is the east choice. i think Cannery Row and tortilla flats get slept on.

    Of mice and men needs a clear, strong syllabus to avoid reinforcing ableist attitudes

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    So remember a while back when I posted about how much work it was to get a bunch of people to be available for deposition preps and depositions when we're working on a deadline for a deposition that HAD to be done by next week? And there was the one guy that said he was available, but then he wasn't, but then it turns out he was?

    Well today I get an email saying that hey, actually we're going to push his deposition back, and we're going to submit a stipulation to continue the trial date, which would also push back this deadline.

    Like, come on. In the end this is a good thing, but after all that work, this deposition gets pushed back again?!? Arrrrgh!

    At least the other ones went by fine.

  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Grapes of Wrath. That final scene with Rosasharn. It just has embedded itself into my brain. Definitely had an impact on me. Just a profound mental image that's stayed with me since high school.

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited September 17
    Moriveth wrote: »
    So remember a while back when I posted about how much work it was to get a bunch of people to be available for deposition preps and depositions when we're working on a deadline for a deposition that HAD to be done by next week? And there was the one guy that said he was available, but then he wasn't, but then it turns out he was?

    Well today I get an email saying that hey, actually we're going to push his deposition back, and we're going to submit a stipulation to continue the trial date, which would also push back this deadline.

    Like, come on. In the end this is a good thing, but after all that work, this deposition gets pushed back again?!? Arrrrgh!

    At least the other ones went by fine.

    Saw that one coming. :bro:

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited September 17
    What I don't like about Gatsby is when idiots think it's something they want to emulate, like those "Gatsby parties" of yesteryear.

    As a story it's fine I suppose. I wasn't really into it but it didn't inspire feelings one way or the other so there's that.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Tox wrote: »
    expendable wrote: »
    Tech at another school posts in the group chat. This person has been in this department longer than I have.

    OtherTech: This particular student (post screenshot of student name, dob, id#, etc) can't login to their Google account. We have tried on multiple devices and networks, is this an easy fix?

    Me: Check the admin console and see if it's locked out or disabled?

    OtherTech: It's not working.

    Manager 2 levels higher than us: I checked the console for you, the account is active.

    Me: Reset the password?

    OT: Still can't login.

    Manager: Do you have a good network connection?

    OT: Yes, tried on two different devices. I can login but the student account can't.

    Manager: Reset the password

    OT: It's not working.

    Manager: The account is being locked out with bad attempts. You need to reset the password.

    OT: We have a new device and it's still not working.

    Our Immediate Supervisor: Hey OT I just unlocked the account and reset the password.

    OT: working now

    Hey I think I used to work with that person!

    ... I'm sorry...

    At least once a day at a client's house:

    Me: Alright cool, please enter your email's password here.

    Client: My email doesn't have a password.

    Me: soul leaves body

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  • JedocJedoc Once to start a new life and once just to start a fireRegistered User regular
    When I was in high school and wanted to be a famous author, Steinbeck was one of my role models. Specifically, I wanted my podunk home town to become famous for stupid they were for not appreciating me.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Tox wrote: »
    expendable wrote: »
    Tech at another school posts in the group chat. This person has been in this department longer than I have.

    OtherTech: This particular student (post screenshot of student name, dob, id#, etc) can't login to their Google account. We have tried on multiple devices and networks, is this an easy fix?

    Me: Check the admin console and see if it's locked out or disabled?

    OtherTech: It's not working.

    Manager 2 levels higher than us: I checked the console for you, the account is active.

    Me: Reset the password?

    OT: Still can't login.

    Manager: Do you have a good network connection?

    OT: Yes, tried on two different devices. I can login but the student account can't.

    Manager: Reset the password

    OT: It's not working.

    Manager: The account is being locked out with bad attempts. You need to reset the password.

    OT: We have a new device and it's still not working.

    Our Immediate Supervisor: Hey OT I just unlocked the account and reset the password.

    OT: working now

    Hey I think I used to work with that person!

    ... I'm sorry...

    At least once a day at a client's house:

    Me: Alright cool, please enter your email's password here.

    Client: My email doesn't have a password.

    Me: soul leaves body

    This actually was the case at my last job. We had a login for the intranet and our Outlook was tied to the intranet login and didn't have its own individual password, since they were inaccessible from the internet at large.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    well I just presented my last freelance project to the startup guys we were working with and they seemed ecstatic about all of it so that's awesome. Now I am out of gas. untethered. enter the void, empty, and become wind.

    so A) payday. B) now I'm back to not working in a covid job market.

    Complicated feels.

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  • FishmanFishman Mawidge, the bwessed awwangement; that dweam wiffim a dweam... Registered User regular
    I discovered Google Play Music has hit final end-of-life and deactivated itself on my phone as I jumped on the train for my morning commute.

    So now I've had to work all day without access to the 1000-odd mp3's that were on my phone 2 days ago.

    Not going to lie, those mp3 files are directly tied to my productivity in the office. Finding this afternoon a struggle today.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    I discovered Google Play Music has hit final end-of-life and deactivated itself on my phone as I jumped on the train for my morning commute.

    So now I've had to work all day without access to the 1000-odd mp3's that were on my phone 2 days ago.

    Not going to lie, those mp3 files are directly tied to my productivity in the office. Finding this afternoon a struggle today.

    I should put my mp3s on my phone and listen that way but there are times I just don't want to listen to that
    It would be block the nurgle cult and general uglyness of work but I don't know how or should I do it {I have headphones on my old mp3 but I had not used it in a age so it will not keep a charge from I tired it a few months ago}

  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    edited September 17
    For me it's "what happens when you reset your password using the 'forgot password?' link?"
    "I know my password"
    Me: *mutes, swears, clears throat* let's try it anyway...

    e: or "the system is showing a bad password flag on my end"
    "No the password is right"
    :rotate:

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  • JedocJedoc Once to start a new life and once just to start a fireRegistered User regular
    I'm sorry. I sometimes blame IT to make people stop asking questions.

    "Yeah, I don't know, sometimes they just reset things for no reason. Try it anyway."

    You're all brave, and you don't deserve it. I still do it, though.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    I discovered Google Play Music has hit final end-of-life and deactivated itself on my phone as I jumped on the train for my morning commute.

    So now I've had to work all day without access to the 1000-odd mp3's that were on my phone 2 days ago.

    Not going to lie, those mp3 files are directly tied to my productivity in the office. Finding this afternoon a struggle today.

    They made duplicate version that is slightly shittier in every way on YouTube.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I remember not liking that its spoken of as "the great american novel" more than the book itself.

    and lit teacher's predilection because of it being so

    I mean this borders on "what makes something good?"

    I'd probably hate it a lot less if I didn't have to spend a month and a half writing about whatever inane symbolism in the book the teacher wanted us to write about to make sure I read the fucking thing. I'd probably hate a lot of the books a lot less if we never did that.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    I remember we spent 25 minutes in class discussing what "yellow sound" meant and my brain checked out less than 8 seconds into the class period and I just thought about boobs the whole time.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I remember we spent 25 minutes in class discussing what "yellow sound" meant and my brain checked out less than 8 seconds into the class period and I just thought about boobs the whole time.

    it's the pee sound obviously

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I remember we spent 25 minutes in class discussing what "yellow sound" meant and my brain checked out less than 8 seconds into the class period and I just thought about boobs the whole time.

    it's the pee sound obviously

    you know the brown note? well

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    oh no

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I remember we spent 25 minutes in class discussing what "yellow sound" meant and my brain checked out less than 8 seconds into the class period and I just thought about boobs the whole time.

    it's the pee sound obviously

    The pee is silent!

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Complicated online meeting etiquette question
    a few months before I left my old job I moved across to a new project (Mars, yay)
    I never technically left the project because there's some crossover between it and my new job so I'm basically folding the project into my current research
    but administratively and infrastructurally, I'm ignoring the hell out of it on the "never go to a meeting you don't have to" principle

    There's at least one meeting a week, they always email the weblink and a password, and I always trash the email immediately. But now ... now I need to ask them something. And I'm not even sure who to ask.
    I'm wondering how weird it would be to just sort of ... slide into the weekly meeting and act like I've always been there

    i figure if there's enough people on the call my thumbnail could have plausibly been bumped to the next page over for six months, right? that sounds likely

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited September 17
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I remember we spent 25 minutes in class discussing what "yellow sound" meant and my brain checked out less than 8 seconds into the class period and I just thought about boobs the whole time.

    And the green light at the end of that dumb wharf, which really felt like a detail that was aimed entirely at English teachers, like the ambiguity at the end of The Giver.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    Any of you ever get a professional to rewrite your resume?

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Mully once tried rewriting mine but ran screaming into the distance about a third of the way through

    ... So, no I guess

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