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The [NFL] Shouldn’t Play Games but they will so we are going to talk about it.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    I wasn't aware of a domestic abuse allegation on Barber but it wouldn't surprise me considering he left his pregnant wife for a 20-year-old intern he met during his brief stint at NBC.

    But Barber's downfall has very little to do with any of that. Tiki had ambition to spare but on camera he was truly terrible.

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  • HawkstoneHawkstone The state of intoxicationRegistered User regular
    So apparently with the added game the Superbowl will now be on Presidents day weekend? Or at least that is the idea being tossed around. I think more game is bad for the players but at least I have a selfish reason to appreciate the change now.

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  • CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    Yo, this is a great prank. Catching her on camera and then (probably?) bringing in Schefter's Twitter account to seal it is just brutal.



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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Strahan boomed us.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    I have some bad news for the non-Jaguars teams looking for QBs:

    1 Burrow 5 Tua
    1 Murray 6 Jones
    1 Mayfield 3 Darnold
    2 Trubisky 10 Mahomes
    1 Goff 2 Wentz
    1 Winston 2 Mariota
    3 Bortles 22 Manziel
    16 Manuel
    1 Luck 2 Griffin
    1 Newton 8 Locker
    1 Bradford 25 Tebow
    1 Stafford 5 Sanchez
    3 Ryan 18 Flacco
    1 Russell 22 Quinn
    3 Young 10 Leinart
    1 Smith 24 Rodgers
    1 Manning 4 Rivers
    1 Palmer 7 Leftwich
    1 Carr 3 Harrington
    1 Vick Brees 32

    Guys taken #1 overall aren’t always good, but the odds are pretty good over the last 20 drafts:
    15 QBs taken #1, 10 of the 15 were/are worth building around

    BUT, if the first QB isn’t the #1 pick, it doesn’t look good- Matt Ryan was good once? but that doesn’t apply this year...

    The 2nd guy taken (only listed if in the top 32, Brees was the first pick of the 2nd round the season before the Texans entered the league) is usually a stretch for a QB horny team:
    Only 4 of the 19 are obvious franchise guys (Tua and DJ might be but it’s not clear yet)

    And then it gets just slightly better for remaining 1st rounders (blanks are years with no other first rounders):
    Herbert, Love
    Haskins
    Allen, Rosen, Jackson
    Watson
    Lynch

    Bridgewater

    Tannehill, Weeden
    Gabbert, Ponder

    Freeman


    Cutler
    Campbell
    Roethlisberger, Losman
    Boller, Grossman
    Ramsay

    6 of 21 were/are franchise guys

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2
    As much as I like to laugh at the falcons Ryan isn’t really the problem and has been consistently decent-good. It’s the rest of the team that is trash .

    Edit- ughh Freeman . I had such high hopes.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Bortles and Manziel...what a first round

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Bortles and Manziel...what a first round

    The Browns drafted a guy at #22 3 times in 8 years- Weeden, Quinn, then Manziel

    Bridgewater was the 3rd and final first round QB that draft and yeah it was pretty obvious he was gonna be the best of that group before the football knowers all hyped us into Bortles (to be fair to them, they hated Manziel)

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    Per Houston Police, a criminal complaint has been filed against Deshaun and an investigation will be conducted

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Good

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Bortles and Manziel...what a first round

    The Browns drafted a guy at #22 3 times in 8 years- Weeden, Quinn, then Manziel

    Bridgewater was the 3rd and final first round QB that draft and yeah it was pretty obvious he was gonna be the best of that group before the football knowers all hyped us into Bortles (to be fair to them, they hated Manziel)

    Bortles and Gabbert really came out of nowhere. They got little if any attention during the season but at the combine they were all of a sudden hyper athletes that Jacksonville had no choice but to draft. I don't understand how those two guys ended up in the first round.

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  • CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    edited April 2
    I'm always amazed each year when some mediocre player with hundreds of hours of video of them being mediocre manages to climb the boards because they had a good pro-day. Scouts falling all over themselves to talk up a dude who played great against air. I I shouldn't be amazed, this shit happens year after year, yet somehow every spring here I am.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    Bortles and Manziel...what a first round

    The Browns drafted a guy at #22 3 times in 8 years- Weeden, Quinn, then Manziel

    Bridgewater was the 3rd and final first round QB that draft and yeah it was pretty obvious he was gonna be the best of that group before the football knowers all hyped us into Bortles (to be fair to them, they hated Manziel)

    Bortles and Gabbert really came out of nowhere. They got little if any attention during the season but at the combine they were all of a sudden hyper athletes that Jacksonville had no choice but to draft. I don't understand how those two guys ended up in the first round.

    I'm a Mizzou die hard and at best I thought Blaine was a 3rd-4th round career backup, tops. He had physical tools but couldn't read a defense for shit and didn't have much work ethic to address his weaknesses.

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  • MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    All about that sweet sweet potential

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Bortles was wrecking face at UCF along with their RB, Storm Johnson, capping off their collegiate careers with a Fiesta Bowl upset against Baylor.

    Both were drafted by the Jags.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    The real question is do you want to live in a world where Jason Mendoza doesn't have have his signature catchphrase?

    I know I don't.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him Bury me at Lone Tree DenRegistered User regular
    It's not like anyone cares if Jacksonville succeeds

    The city's motto is "You've almost left Florida! WHY DID YOU STOP?"

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    It's not like anyone cares if Jacksonville succeeds

    The city's motto is "You've almost left Florida! WHY DID YOU STOP?"

    Cause you still have 3.5 hours to get to NC

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Darnold to the panthers. On one hand I wanted to have him be our backup on the other hand if he still does badly I can laugh at the panthers . So I get to say I told you the jets were the problem or laugh at a division rival . Win win .

  • MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    I hope the Jets still do the Jets thing and draft a tight end at #2.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    I hope the Jets still do the Jets thing and draft a tight end at #2.

    I mean the way people talk about pitts he may even be worth it.

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  • RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Jets are typically more cursed then completely hapless, decision to hire Adam Gase not withstanding.

    They'll take the unluckiest quarterback of this draft.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    less than 1 out of 3 of the 2nd QBs taken in the last 20 drafts has been even starter-quality

    So good luck Jets, see you back here in 4 years

  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    First round QB drafting in the last 5 years has been way better than the previous 15, to be fair.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    First round QB drafting in the last 5 years has been way better than the previous 15, to be fair.

    Goff/Wentz
    Trubisky/Mahomes/Watson (yeah the first was a whiff but he also wasn’t the first pick which is another indicator of badness)
    Mayfield/Darnold/Allen/Rosen/Jackson
    Murray/Jones/Haskins
    Burrow/Tua/Herbert/Love

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Schefter reporting the 49ers are planning on taking Mac Jones #3 which

    1. Anything said right now has to be taken with a grain of salt

    2. You don’t trade to 3 to get Mac Jones...

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Schefter reporting the 49ers are planning on taking Mac Jones #3 which

    1. Anything said right now has to be taken with a grain of salt

    2. You don’t trade to 3 to get Mac Jones...

    You do if he's white!

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    I’m not sure that I buy it, but I’m also not sure I understand the value of smokescreening when you already have the pick locked in and the two teams ahead of you are set on their own players.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I’m not sure that I buy it, but I’m also not sure I understand the value of smokescreening when you already have the pick locked in and the two teams ahead of you are set on their own players.

    Try to trick the team ahead of you into taking him so you can get the guy you want?

    Not likely to work but it’s all I can think of.

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  • HawkstoneHawkstone The state of intoxicationRegistered User regular
    I’m not sure that I buy it, but I’m also not sure I understand the value of smokescreening when you already have the pick locked in and the two teams ahead of you are set on their own players.

    The team has literally said nothing, not a single thing about who they are drafting. Everyone who is reporting is going off Chris Simms who claims to know, but he knows squat.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Hi, resident Alabama homer.

    I would not draft Mac Jones at number 3.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular

    I’m not sure that I buy it, but I’m also not sure I understand the value of smokescreening when you already have the pick locked in and the two teams ahead of you are set on their own players.

    Try to trick the team ahead of you into taking him so you can get the guy you want?

    Not likely to work but it’s all I can think of.

    Same, but how desperate or stupid would you have to be to trade all that capital to move up to 3 so you can plant smokescreens about picking Mac Jones in the hopes that the Jets decide that actually, they want to take him and let Zach Wilson fall to you?

    I don’t have a very high opinion of nfl front offices, but that’s a stretch for me.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited April 6
    Summary of the Buzbee presser:



    Five more women approached him but he couldn't make as strong a case for them as the other 22
    At least two women will be filing police reports with Houston Police, very likely more will
    Texans provided Deshaun with a massage table, helped arrange some massages, and there's a possibility staff were aware of what he was doing

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    edited April 6
    Butters wrote: »
    First round QB drafting in the last 5 years has been way better than the previous 15, to be fair.

    Yeah I'm not sure any teams have gotten better about evaluating QB's nor is the 2nd QB taken inherently cursed. I think modern teams have pulled so many concepts from the college game, like the read option, it allows QB's that are athletic to be better than if they were in a pure pocket passer scheme that most teams ran in the past.

    Also just depends on what people's definition of a bust is. Dan Jones for example, could probably be a decent game manager QB with some athletic upside. But that would require a top 5 defense and a scheme to maximize that. So while he may not last long in NY, I'm not sure I'd call him a bust.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Shanahan was at Jones’s pro day, not Fields’s

  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    The only reason I could see the 49er's looking at Mac is that they think they have a superbowl window here for only the next couple years. And that going with a low ceiling high floor guy is better than someone who might take a year or 2.

    I still think that's a terrible way to go since you have Jimmy G for 1 more year which allows you to sit Lance or Fields. Bad teams sacrifice the future for the now.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The fact that it looks like Mac Jones is gonna get drafted higher than Devonta Smith is a travesty.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Honestly....

    Playing for Kyle Shanahan is probably the best outcome for Jones- his strengths were ball placement (just behind Fields) and executing plays/timing routes, and I feel like those are strengths that Shanahan could scheme for....although I might have thought the same about Garoppolo...

    Jones definitely benefitted from the all-time great WR/RB group, but he was really good at hitting those guys where they could make their plays

  • TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 6
    If Kyle really waste that pick on Mac Jones ,He should be eviscerated and exposed as a fraudulent Head Coach.

    If the Niners wanted a, Good ol System QB, fucking trade the #3 to the Giants for Daniel Jones. At Least he is fucking athletic, compared to Ham , Mac Jones.

    Fields, Z.Wilson , and fucking Lance will be available. If the Niners waste that pick, with the talent they already have, I don't even know anymore.

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  • HawkstoneHawkstone The state of intoxicationRegistered User regular
    Shanahan was at Jones’s pro day, not Fields’s

    They held extra pro days for Fields and Lance so the Niners could attend them all.

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