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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Pat is awesome

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    pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    It’s very easy to dislike Pat if he’s in your division, doubly so since he’s on the chiefs. He seems decent as a person, though.

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    DirtyboyDirtyboy Registered User regular
    Who hates Mahomes? He seems like a good guy

    I am a lifelong Raiders fan, screw the Chefs.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ok. That makes sense.

    Even as a Giants fan though I could never hate Romo.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Hawkstone wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    The hospital system my wife works for announced a vaccine requirement of its workers a few weeks ago and it caused a firestorm. Her email box is full of women that report to her panicking that the vaccine is going to sterilize them.

    There is a lot of misinformation that has been tragically effective.

    It is both frightening and staggering how wildly undereducated about this the nursing community is with some hospitals reporting dozens of nurses refusing the Vaccine. It really shakes my already minimal trust in American medicine. It feel like the min bar should be some where north of "understands basic statistics and keeps abreast of the drugs they administer"

    She manages administrative and other non-medical personnel but you're not wrong. The nurses aren't happy about it either. To be fair, it's a lot to tell someone they have to quit if they don't get a vaccine that has yet to be fully FDA approved but the more visceral reactions are definitely rooted in conspiracy theory nonsense.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    what I don't get is how there is no benefit to spreading misinformation about the vaccine causing sterilization. how does that make a person's life better? it doesn't.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    The big dumb anti intellectual cult in this country is so goddamn frustrating

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Jars wrote: »
    what I don't get is how there is no benefit to spreading misinformation about the vaccine causing sterilization. how does that make a person's life better? it doesn't.

    1. Trolling gets people off.
    2. By telling people sweet, sweet lies that they are eager to believe and positioning yourself as the truthsayer of said lies, then you succeed at isolating people from those who would warn them of you, and make them more vulnerable to your other lies.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    what I don't get is how there is no benefit to spreading misinformation about the vaccine causing sterilization. how does that make a person's life better? it doesn't.

    1. Trolling gets people off.
    2. By telling people sweet, sweet lies that they are eager to believe and positioning yourself as the truthsayer of said lies, then you succeed at isolating people from those who would warn them of you, and make them more vulnerable to your other lies.

    Fuck, it worked for that shit brain Trump on a grand scale

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Telling people that they're smarter than everyone else because they realize you're speaking the truth and the official story is bullshit has always been an extraordinarily effective technique.

    People love to be told they're smart.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2021
    I am smart.
    I believe X.
    Therefore, a X is a smart position.

    I am smart.
    Only a dumb person would fall for a con.
    Therefore, I cannot fall for a con.

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    EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Dirtyboy wrote: »
    Who hates Mahomes? He seems like a good guy

    I am a lifelong Raiders fan, screw the Chefs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmgice3ieZ4

    He puts ketchup on steak , probably eats it well done . He is the enemy of all mankind. Now Brady can be a jerk but he plays for my team now so he is beyond reproach.

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    DirtyboyDirtyboy Registered User regular
    Would be nice if these players would just say why they aren't getting the vaccine instead of saying "make your own decisions".



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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    It’s very easy to dislike Pat if he’s in your division, doubly so since he’s on the chiefs. He seems decent as a person, though.

    He's passed me a couple of times this year on the freeway on my way into work. While I couldn't see his mop, there aren't too many silver Ferrari 812s on the local roads round here.

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    EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Dirtyboy wrote: »
    Would be nice if these players would just say why they aren't getting the vaccine instead of saying "make your own decisions".




    Lol I was actually just coming to talk about these , dude has issues.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Cole Beasley has proven himself a total clod yet again

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    H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    I guess he either doesn't realize some people have compromised immune systems that keep them from getting vaccines or he just doesn't give a shit about them.

    (Got a pretty good feeling as to which option the answer is though)

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Those are fine questions to ask, they have pretty easy answers. The real deal is how he responds to the answers.

    1) A low chance of something happening, happening to you, does not then make it likely something else with a low probability will happen to you
    1b) The vaccine makes a recurrence of covid less severe
    1c) Why does it even matter if there is a low chance of getting it again? Why does that make it more worthwhile to not get it? This doesn't really make sense to me.

    2) This is essentially correct as far as we know. You are not a danger to people who have been vaccinated. You are, however, a danger to those around you who have not been vaccinated, who cannot be vaccinated.
    2b) Also, as long as there is a significant portion of the population that is vulnerable to Covid, it will continue passing through them, and possibly mutate to a variant
    that is resistant to the vaccine. That would be very very bad, and would obviously be dangerous to everyone.

    Great, asked and answered, hope this clears everything up. Armed with this knowledge I'm sure you'll make your way to the closest vaccination station.

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    TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    Of course, Cole Beasley gonna Cole Beasley.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    shut up and catch footballs

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    I guess he either doesn't realize some people have compromised immune systems that keep them from getting vaccines or he just doesn't give a shit about them.

    (Got a pretty good feeling as to which option the answer is though)

    I'm sure he didn't know when he made those tweets, and I'm also sure that once he finds out (if he hasn't already) he 100% will not care and will make up some new excuse for not getting it

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    EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited June 2021
    So coles back at it . And having a little meltdown . Would be sad but the dudes a prick.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
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    DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    "If you're vaccinated, why do you care if I wear a mask?"

    Cause I am capable of caring for more than just my own self. I don't want you to get it, and I don't want you to give it to other people.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    People with his mindset don't take into account the immuno compromised like my wife and mother or all the kids who can't be vaccinated yet.

    It's just so fucking selfish.

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    H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    Mulletude wrote: »

    I'm sure he didn't know when he made those tweets, and I'm also sure that once he finds out (if he hasn't already) he 100% will not care and will make up some new excuse for not getting it

    ding ding ding

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    EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Dude sure does mention living free a lot.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    I'm curious how getting a shot hinders your freedom.

    I mean, I guess my freedom was slightly hindered by being feverish for 12 hours after mine and left me on the couch to nap and play video games.

    He's a pro athlete in great shape. He has no excuse.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Why are y'all posting that jerk's selfish reprehensible thoughts in here?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Why are y'all posting that jerk's selfish reprehensible thoughts in here?

    To dunk on them because he's a shitheel, but I can understand if it irks you.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    I mean this is the NFL thread, he's a notable member of the NFL, he has reach/influence within the fan community, covid is a major issue for the upcoming season, and his views reflect a larger trend within the league (and society in general). The tweets seem pretty relevant and worth discussing, as reprehensible as they are.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    I mean, if I was an nfl coach and I had a player risking missing games because of a covid quarantine I would break my foot off in his ass

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Ok. That makes sense.

    Even as a Giants fan though I could never hate Romo.

    Romo never won anything

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    To expand upon this, as a 2000s era Panthers fan I hated playing Michael Vick's Falcons and the way he'd pull a win out of his ass no matter what Carolina did. But we played in a Super Bowl and they didn't, so who cares? I fucking loathed Tom Brady's Patriots before that Super Bowl was even played - he'd already won one and Bill Simmons shit talked my team. The fact that the Panthers lost just cemented my hate well before Spygate

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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Ok. That makes sense.

    Even as a Giants fan though I could never hate Romo.

    Romo never won anything

    Yeah Romo literally never took a game from us that mattered in the long run.

    Like I dislike Brady and Bellichek for who they are as people but as part of the NFL we beat them twice and Bellichek actually helped us win a couple of titles so who cares.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Jars wrote: »
    I mean, if I was an nfl coach and I had a player risking missing games because of a covid quarantine I would break my foot off in his ass

    There are very few NFL coaches who don’t agree with him though and I don’t see even Andy or Arians or Stefanski unofficially disciplining a dude over it (I’m assuming these are 3 of the least chuddy coaches)

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Jars wrote: »
    I mean, if I was an nfl coach and I had a player risking missing games because of a covid quarantine I would break my foot off in his ass

    There are very few NFL coaches who don’t agree with him though and even I don’t see Andy or Arians or Stefanski unofficially disciplining a dude over it (I’m assuming these are 3 of the least chuddy coaches)

    But Andy and the Chiefs captains have proven capable of bringing skeptical players around to the fact science works, the vaccines are a net social good, and if nothing else it will be majorly important for game prep and team activies.

    Gronk Light Travis Kelce initially hesitant on vaccine has becomes a vocal spokesman for getting vaccinated

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I mean, if I was an nfl coach and I had a player risking missing games because of a covid quarantine I would break my foot off in his ass

    There are very few NFL coaches who don’t agree with him though and even I don’t see Andy or Arians or Stefanski unofficially disciplining a dude over it (I’m assuming these are 3 of the least chuddy coaches)

    But Andy and the Chiefs captains have shown capable of bringing skeptical players around to the fact science works and the vaccines are a net social good and if nothing else is majorly important for game prep and team activies.

    Gronk Light Travis Kelce initially hesitant on vaccine has becomes a vocal spokesman for getting vaccinated

    This is good, we need more publicity on this kind of thing.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I mean, if I was an nfl coach and I had a player risking missing games because of a covid quarantine I would break my foot off in his ass

    There are very few NFL coaches who don’t agree with him though and even I don’t see Andy or Arians or Stefanski unofficially disciplining a dude over it (I’m assuming these are 3 of the least chuddy coaches)

    But Andy and the Chiefs captains have shown capable of bringing skeptical players around to the fact science works and the vaccines are a net social good and if nothing else is majorly important for game prep and team activies.

    Gronk Light Travis Kelce initially hesitant on vaccine has becomes a vocal spokesman for getting vaccinated

    Future Brown Travis Kelce

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I mean, if I was an nfl coach and I had a player risking missing games because of a covid quarantine I would break my foot off in his ass

    There are very few NFL coaches who don’t agree with him though and even I don’t see Andy or Arians or Stefanski unofficially disciplining a dude over it (I’m assuming these are 3 of the least chuddy coaches)

    But Andy and the Chiefs captains have shown capable of bringing skeptical players around to the fact science works and the vaccines are a net social good and if nothing else is majorly important for game prep and team activies.

    Gronk Light Travis Kelce initially hesitant on vaccine has becomes a vocal spokesman for getting vaccinated

    Future Brown Travis Kelce

    He's got us to 3 AFC championship games, 2 Super Bowls, and 1 ring and been a great community ambassador, I'd be less broken up about him leaving due to business than when Tony G left us "for the shot at a winner", and won only 1 playoff game in ATL in his twilight years.

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