With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
In further "The Post Office is Now a Business And Will Be Gutted For Profit" news... USPS NFTs.
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Just... fuck everything about that.
I'm currently watching a two hour Folding Ideas piece on crypto and NFTs and so I am being acutely reminded of what a stupid fucking idea this is.
Is this a DeJoy brainchild? It seems like something a dipshit Trumper would come up with.
Shitting this steaming load on the doorstep of the USPS on his way out so it costs them money to get rid of it would be exactly the kind of garbage DeJoy would do. Anything to hurt the USPS so his own business can make more money.
A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
The US Senate is incredibly stupid and the US government has WAY WAY WAY too many appointed positions.
It's apparently so large, the Congressional Research Service ESTIMATES there are 1200-1400 positions. The fucking division of the Library of Congress responsible for knowing this, can't give an accurate fucking count, and their best guess could be +/- 15%.
If a voice vote is contested, then it takes at least 15m per Standing Rules. Let's go 1/2 hour total. Meaning that if TWO Senators from the opposing party object to each voice vote, and they do nothing but confirmations, and do nothing but confirm executive positions for 10 hours a day, it'd take at least three fucking months to fill a government.
That's not taking into account judicial nominees, actual debate of bills, other duties of the Senate, nothing.
It's just a ridiculous way of doing things. But the Senate being ridiculous is basically a defining feature at this point.
Meanwhile, if Congress was in recess for a single day it would be possible for Biden to just put acting people in all those positions in like, a minute. Congress hasn't been officially in recess in the past couple decades or more, has it?
A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
The US Senate is incredibly stupid and the US government has WAY WAY WAY too many appointed positions.
It's apparently so large, the Congressional Research Service ESTIMATES there are 1200-1400 positions. The fucking division of the Library of Congress responsible for knowing this, can't give an accurate fucking count, and their best guess could be +/- 15%.
If a voice vote is contested, then it takes at least 15m per Standing Rules. Let's go 1/2 hour total. Meaning that if TWO Senators from the opposing party object to each voice vote, and they do nothing but confirmations, and do nothing but confirm executive positions for 10 hours a day, it'd take at least three fucking months to fill a government.
That's not taking into account judicial nominees, actual debate of bills, other duties of the Senate, nothing.
It's just a ridiculous way of doing things. But the Senate being ridiculous is basically a defining feature at this point.
Meanwhile, if Congress was in recess for a single day it would be possible for Biden to just put acting people in all those positions in like, a minute. Congress hasn't been officially in recess in the past couple decades or more, has it?
And this is done specifically so the president can't put acting people in all these positions. Half of Congress dislikes the President at any one time, and the price for being the first to blink increases as the number of empty positions increases. Meanwhile, the machinery of the government comes closer and closer to breaking.
A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
The US Senate is incredibly stupid and the US government has WAY WAY WAY too many appointed positions.
It's apparently so large, the Congressional Research Service ESTIMATES there are 1200-1400 positions. The fucking division of the Library of Congress responsible for knowing this, can't give an accurate fucking count, and their best guess could be +/- 15%.
If a voice vote is contested, then it takes at least 15m per Standing Rules. Let's go 1/2 hour total. Meaning that if TWO Senators from the opposing party object to each voice vote, and they do nothing but confirmations, and do nothing but confirm executive positions for 10 hours a day, it'd take at least three fucking months to fill a government.
That's not taking into account judicial nominees, actual debate of bills, other duties of the Senate, nothing.
It's just a ridiculous way of doing things. But the Senate being ridiculous is basically a defining feature at this point.
So the government is actually fully broken, cooooool
With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
The US Senate is incredibly stupid and the US government has WAY WAY WAY too many appointed positions.
It's apparently so large, the Congressional Research Service ESTIMATES there are 1200-1400 positions. The fucking division of the Library of Congress responsible for knowing this, can't give an accurate fucking count, and their best guess could be +/- 15%.
If a voice vote is contested, then it takes at least 15m per Standing Rules. Let's go 1/2 hour total. Meaning that if TWO Senators from the opposing party object to each voice vote, and they do nothing but confirmations, and do nothing but confirm executive positions for 10 hours a day, it'd take at least three fucking months to fill a government.
That's not taking into account judicial nominees, actual debate of bills, other duties of the Senate, nothing.
It's just a ridiculous way of doing things. But the Senate being ridiculous is basically a defining feature at this point.
So the government is actually fully broken, cooooool
And Senate objections don't even have to be germane! So if one asshole (it's Ted Cruz or Rand Paul) wants to hold up all the nominees to the post office because say, the White House isn't giving Kentucky enough highway funding, this is totally allowed.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
Yeah there's definitely no shortage of laws passed by Democratic leadership that are coming back to bite them in the ass.
With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
Read the quote you're quoting.
"Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)"
Biden has just appointed one Democrat and one Republican. A Republican who has worked in the Trump administration and for Mitch McConnell. Nothing required Biden to put that guy on the board of directors, yet here we are.
A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
The US Senate is incredibly stupid and the US government has WAY WAY WAY too many appointed positions.
It's apparently so large, the Congressional Research Service ESTIMATES there are 1200-1400 positions. The fucking division of the Library of Congress responsible for knowing this, can't give an accurate fucking count, and their best guess could be +/- 15%.
If a voice vote is contested, then it takes at least 15m per Standing Rules. Let's go 1/2 hour total. Meaning that if TWO Senators from the opposing party object to each voice vote, and they do nothing but confirmations, and do nothing but confirm executive positions for 10 hours a day, it'd take at least three fucking months to fill a government.
That's not taking into account judicial nominees, actual debate of bills, other duties of the Senate, nothing.
It's just a ridiculous way of doing things. But the Senate being ridiculous is basically a defining feature at this point.
So the government is actually fully broken, cooooool
And Senate objections don't even have to be germane! So if one asshole (it's Ted Cruz or Rand Paul) wants to hold up all the nominees to the post office because say, the White House isn't giving Kentucky enough highway funding, this is totally allowed.
The Senate is probably like half of what is wrong with the american federal government.
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A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
5 years later and the government still isn't staffed. Last I remember reading more than 200+ positions either never got anyone in the queue, let alone confirmed.
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With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
Read the quote you're quoting.
"Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)"
Biden has just appointed one Democrat and one Republican. A Republican who has worked in the Trump administration and for Mitch McConnell. Nothing required Biden to put that guy on the board of directors, yet here we are.
Actually think about the context, indeed.
I did. You didn’t read my response I guess? We’re losing two Rs and getting 1 R and 1 D.
With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
Read the quote you're quoting.
"Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)"
Biden has just appointed one Democrat and one Republican. A Republican who has worked in the Trump administration and for Mitch McConnell. Nothing required Biden to put that guy on the board of directors, yet here we are.
Actually think about the context, indeed.
I did. You didn’t read my response I guess? We’re losing two Rs and getting 1 R and 1 D.
No we aren't.
Ron A. Bloom, who is one of the board members being replaced - despite being appointed by Trump and being a strong ally of DeJoy - is a registered Democrat who worked in the Obama administration.
With the likely confirmation of Tangherlini and Kan, Biden will have five nominees on the full board versus four from President Trump . But Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), making him unlikely to remove DeJoy. And at least two of Biden’s other confirmed nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy.
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
Read the quote you're quoting.
"Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)"
Biden has just appointed one Democrat and one Republican. A Republican who has worked in the Trump administration and for Mitch McConnell. Nothing required Biden to put that guy on the board of directors, yet here we are.
Actually think about the context, indeed.
I did. You didn’t read my response I guess? We’re losing two Rs and getting 1 R and 1 D.
No we aren't.
Ron A. Bloom, who is one of the board members being replaced - despite being appointed by Trump and being a strong ally of DeJoy - is a registered Democrat who worked in the Obama administration.
Yeah, it's replacing two strong DeJoy allies, but unknown as of yet which side the replacements fall on. Kan (the Republican replacement) also worked in the Obama administration and seems like a mostly fairly apolitical career dude. And I don't think anybody wants to say what their position is vis a vis canning what is effectively their boss until they know they have the votes, and certainly not before they're confirmed because that would basically guarantee an instant 50 votes against.
So there's that Postal Service Reform Act that, if passed, would de-couple some of the regulatory BS the USPS was intentionally hobbled with for decades.
Of course, there's no good bill that assholes can't poison pill, right? How about not just preventing the introduction of postal banking but also prohibiting the sale of postal money orders, a service which they have offered since [checks notes] 1864.
A year later and the government still isn't staffed.
The US Senate is incredibly stupid and the US government has WAY WAY WAY too many appointed positions.
It's apparently so large, the Congressional Research Service ESTIMATES there are 1200-1400 positions. The fucking division of the Library of Congress responsible for knowing this, can't give an accurate fucking count, and their best guess could be +/- 15%.
If a voice vote is contested, then it takes at least 15m per Standing Rules. Let's go 1/2 hour total. Meaning that if TWO Senators from the opposing party object to each voice vote, and they do nothing but confirmations, and do nothing but confirm executive positions for 10 hours a day, it'd take at least three fucking months to fill a government.
That's not taking into account judicial nominees, actual debate of bills, other duties of the Senate, nothing.
It's just a ridiculous way of doing things. But the Senate being ridiculous is basically a defining feature at this point.
So the government is actually fully broken, cooooool
And Senate objections don't even have to be germane! So if one asshole (it's Ted Cruz or Rand Paul) wants to hold up all the nominees to the post office because say, the White House isn't giving Kentucky enough highway funding, this is totally allowed.
Could we just buy everyone in Kentucky a new truck if they return 2 Democratic Senators? It'd be fucking cheaper than dealing with the troglodytes they keep sending us.
After a campaign by the APWU & allied unions, the U.S. Senate has passed the Postal Service Reform Act, ending the disastrous 75-year pre-funding mandate which has been artificially bankrupting the Postal Service for decades.
(The American Postal Workers Union is one of the unions of employees of the USPS.)
Incidentally, Toomy's proposal about removing the post office's ability to issue money orders never left the proposal stage.
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Did the postal banking removal still make it in?
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Not to get too deep into the weeds on this one but it's been over a century, a hundred and three years to be exact, since a version of the passed bill was first introduced and blocked by the senate.
So it passing today, under unanimous consent, means that Paul Rand's hold on the bill was dropped allowing it to pass through voice vote.
Again, fuck the Senate. It needs to die.
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On today's episode of "1922 or 2022?", we're passing laws against lynching, Russia is kicking up shit in Europe, and the interests of the wealthy are hell-bent on ruining civilization for the rest of us.
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So it looks like someone told Dejoy(or Oshkosh) to fuck off and make a small step for progrsss and instead of 10% of the new fleet being electric, it looks like it will be 40%
Fencingsax on
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A reminder that the USPS Board of Governors is now majority Biden nominees, and yet DeJoy is still there and comfortable in his post, still routing more and more postal packages through his shipping company that he and his family are actively profiting from.
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Needs to cut 50k jobs when they can't even get the mail out on time as it is. Fuckin... this is just corporate bullshit.
A reminder that the USPS Board of Governors is now majority Biden nominees, and yet DeJoy is still there and comfortable in his post, still routing more and more postal packages through his shipping company that he and his family are actively profiting from.
I can't find anything on whether there's been any moves at all to oust DeJoy recently. There's very little reporting I can find on the board in the last few months. But it's helpful to remember this shit is stupid and annoying and poorly reported on. Some things that are true afaik:
1) Biden can't fire DeJoy himself, only the Board can and those members are independent of him.
2) The Board needs 5 votes to do so.
3) The Board is not permitted to have more then 5 members of any 1 party on it. So there can be at most 5 Democrats on the board.
4) The party of the members is not the same as who appoints them. Trump appointed Democrats to the board, Biden has appointed Republicans.
5) So while Biden appointees may be a majority now, some of those appointees were not Democrats. (there was as of a few months ago still 1 Trump-appointed Democrat on the board and Biden has appointed 1 Republican)
So what may be going on, but I have no clue if this is true, is that neither the Democrat appointed by Trump nor the Republican appointed by Biden want to oust DeJoy and thus the board remains at only 4 votes for it.
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Shitting this steaming load on the doorstep of the USPS on his way out so it costs them money to get rid of it would be exactly the kind of garbage DeJoy would do. Anything to hurt the USPS so his own business can make more money.
Meanwhile, if Congress was in recess for a single day it would be possible for Biden to just put acting people in all those positions in like, a minute. Congress hasn't been officially in recess in the past couple decades or more, has it?
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And this is done specifically so the president can't put acting people in all these positions. Half of Congress dislikes the President at any one time, and the price for being the first to blink increases as the number of empty positions increases. Meanwhile, the machinery of the government comes closer and closer to breaking.
So the government is actually fully broken, cooooool
Don't link one of The Hills farcical articles without actually thinking about context.
We've already gone over the requirements for a board nomination, the board also requires pretty much a half and half split of their members to be D and R, the two people being Replaced are both R DeJoy loyalists, so this increases the number of D's on the board by 1 and decreases the number of R's on the board by 1, and of course the other two Biden nominees have shown no inclination to remove DeJoy at this point because they don't have the fucking votes to do so.
And Senate objections don't even have to be germane! So if one asshole (it's Ted Cruz or Rand Paul) wants to hold up all the nominees to the post office because say, the White House isn't giving Kentucky enough highway funding, this is totally allowed.
Yeah there's definitely no shortage of laws passed by Democratic leadership that are coming back to bite them in the ass.
Read the quote you're quoting.
"Kan is a Republican who worked in the Trump administration and for Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)"
Biden has just appointed one Democrat and one Republican. A Republican who has worked in the Trump administration and for Mitch McConnell. Nothing required Biden to put that guy on the board of directors, yet here we are.
Actually think about the context, indeed.
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The Senate is probably like half of what is wrong with the american federal government.
5 years later and the government still isn't staffed. Last I remember reading more than 200+ positions either never got anyone in the queue, let alone confirmed.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
I did. You didn’t read my response I guess? We’re losing two Rs and getting 1 R and 1 D.
No we aren't.
Ron A. Bloom, who is one of the board members being replaced - despite being appointed by Trump and being a strong ally of DeJoy - is a registered Democrat who worked in the Obama administration.
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Yeah, it's replacing two strong DeJoy allies, but unknown as of yet which side the replacements fall on. Kan (the Republican replacement) also worked in the Obama administration and seems like a mostly fairly apolitical career dude. And I don't think anybody wants to say what their position is vis a vis canning what is effectively their boss until they know they have the votes, and certainly not before they're confirmed because that would basically guarantee an instant 50 votes against.
Of course, there's no good bill that assholes can't poison pill, right? How about not just preventing the introduction of postal banking but also prohibiting the sale of postal money orders, a service which they have offered since [checks notes] 1864.
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Could we just buy everyone in Kentucky a new truck if they return 2 Democratic Senators? It'd be fucking cheaper than dealing with the troglodytes they keep sending us.
(The American Postal Workers Union is one of the unions of employees of the USPS.)
Incidentally, Toomy's proposal about removing the post office's ability to issue money orders never left the proposal stage.
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That was part of Toomey's proposal, which did not get in.
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what was the second and do they have to go to the house or the president?
I believe he is referring to the federal ban on lynching.
what?
Like, lynching was already illegal, but now it's an automatic hate crime. You know, because there were so many non-racially motivated lynchings.
this effing country
Not to get too deep into the weeds on this one but it's been over a century, a hundred and three years to be exact, since a version of the passed bill was first introduced and blocked by the senate.
So it passing today, under unanimous consent, means that Paul Rand's hold on the bill was dropped allowing it to pass through voice vote.
Again, fuck the Senate. It needs to die.
On today's episode of "1922 or 2022?", we're passing laws against lynching, Russia is kicking up shit in Europe, and the interests of the wealthy are hell-bent on ruining civilization for the rest of us.
And it happened on his birthday!
very good birthday gift
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/09/1085544583/the-senate-has-passed-bill-to-save-usps-billions-of-dollars-and-reform-deliverie
This seems like a big deal and also a good thing
Good for him!
Now get him the fuck out of there
A reminder that the USPS Board of Governors is now majority Biden nominees, and yet DeJoy is still there and comfortable in his post, still routing more and more postal packages through his shipping company that he and his family are actively profiting from.
They deliberately sabotaged the processes and removed equipment before Covid times.
Which is awful and idiocy and evil etc.
Just thought some context might be helpful.
I can't find anything on whether there's been any moves at all to oust DeJoy recently. There's very little reporting I can find on the board in the last few months. But it's helpful to remember this shit is stupid and annoying and poorly reported on. Some things that are true afaik:
1) Biden can't fire DeJoy himself, only the Board can and those members are independent of him.
2) The Board needs 5 votes to do so.
3) The Board is not permitted to have more then 5 members of any 1 party on it. So there can be at most 5 Democrats on the board.
4) The party of the members is not the same as who appoints them. Trump appointed Democrats to the board, Biden has appointed Republicans.
5) So while Biden appointees may be a majority now, some of those appointees were not Democrats. (there was as of a few months ago still 1 Trump-appointed Democrat on the board and Biden has appointed 1 Republican)
So what may be going on, but I have no clue if this is true, is that neither the Democrat appointed by Trump nor the Republican appointed by Biden want to oust DeJoy and thus the board remains at only 4 votes for it.