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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Could always play flex

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    on a scale of 1 to Vayne how evil am I if I feel the impulse to pick Karma whenever I have to fill top

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    on a scale of 1 to Vayne how evil am I if I feel the impulse to pick Karma whenever I have to fill top

    Teemo.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    on a scale of 1 to Vayne how evil am I if I feel the impulse to pick Karma whenever I have to fill top

    Teemo.

    hey now I don't think that's fair

    top Karma ruins the game for one person, not 5 people

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Small Project L update:


    Confirming that it'll be free-to-play.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    enchanters in top lane is pretty evil

    i'd give it like, .8 vaynes

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I have recently seen something in porofessor that I had never seen before:

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    I'm on like a fifteen game loss streak.

    Some my own fault (grinding Taliyah) and a lot just kinda... well I'm top damage carry and have a good K/D but can't carry hard enough vs *insert obnoxious early/mid game spiker here*.

    On the plus side I made a Gnar cry by playing Jungle Quinn.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    happened to me last week, it's horrible, you can be 13/3/8 and if your team just wants to sprint it and throw away every lead there isn't much you can do

    edit:
    the lillia one trick experiment is working out pretty well so far
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    up to silver 3, games are still kinda a meme compared to my normals

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    lmao i queued for a ranked game tonight, literally my entire team mental boomed 30 seconds after the minions crashed. i've never seen anything like it.

    support accidentially stole blue, whatever, i smited bad, it happens. so he stayed a second to help with gromp but i was like just go it's fine. but that slight delay to lane had our bot laner non-stop typing for 5 minutes. when the support then decided to idk maybe kill midlane, i was also there and we almost killed their midlaner and then the midlaner mental boomed because, and i quote, "walking around ruining his lane" and he got run down by yasuo while typing 25 more lines of his screed and killed, then quit.

    in response to this, my teemo top walked all the way bot side and stole all my camps while saying nothing.

    and then, of course, the midlaner's duo held hostage and didn't want to surrender so it still took 18 minutes before the other team could finally win. legit the most insane i think almost everyone on this team should be banned team i've ever played with in my life, and i've played a lot of games of league.

    i just don't understand it, there is literally no way that anyone like this can actually enjoy the game at all. just like.... find something else to play friends.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Traditional udyr with Dorito feet or riot

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Dear god what I wouldn't give for a second ban to just delete Twitch from the game sometimes.

    *poof* Welp there he is, in your backline and he just deleted you. Fun and interactive buttons.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    From his tomb, guardsman bob stirs

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Dear god what I wouldn't give for a second ban to just delete Twitch from the game sometimes.

    *poof* Welp there he is, in your backline and he just deleted you. Fun and interactive buttons.

    he was hiding

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    holy fuck yeah

    Yuubee was in my amazon prime satch

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    love being at the elo where level 30 purchased accounts who have perfect vayne adc mechanics who def aren't boosting their level 400 sona friend land

    what a great time, thanks riot i really enjoyed that 25 minutes of my life

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    ok I finally broke an abysmal losing streak by playing....Ezreal??

    idk if this means I should play Ezreal because even though he is maybe a little weak rn, he doesn't really require peel and apparently we just no longer peel at all, in this community (literally played a game where my team had Leona, Rammus, and Malphite...and they let Diana kill me as Kai'sa every time. Like not even the barest attempt to stop her. And I was zooming away with R+E+Galeforce--it would not have required a lot on my team's part to stun her for the additional 0.5 second I need to escape)

    or maybe it means that now that I'm back in gold 4 I can potentially win on whatever adc and it doesn't matter if I play something like Ezreal who I have never played ranked and have barely played at all

    man, who knows

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    SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    Knight_ wrote: »
    love being at the elo where level 30 purchased accounts who have perfect vayne adc mechanics who def aren't boosting their level 400 sona friend land

    what a great time, thanks riot i really enjoyed that 25 minutes of my life

    I'd take that over the endless fucking bots showing up in my games. The past 7 games I've played have all had bots. That's not even counting the few games I dodged due to obvious bots.

    Riot needs to get this shit figured out.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Ya that happened to me last season, was constantly getting games with bot accounts who were losing their 10 ranked games before the account could be sold.

    It sucks a whole lot.

    Also, fun fact, sion ult scripting is still in the game after riot said they fixed it, had a sion 180 on me a few times in a ranked game, unsurprisingly level 32 account boosting someone else who won’t get banned.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    ok I finally broke an abysmal losing streak by playing....Ezreal??

    idk if this means I should play Ezreal because even though he is maybe a little weak rn, he doesn't really require peel and apparently we just no longer peel at all, in this community (literally played a game where my team had Leona, Rammus, and Malphite...and they let Diana kill me as Kai'sa every time. Like not even the barest attempt to stop her. And I was zooming away with R+E+Galeforce--it would not have required a lot on my team's part to stun her for the additional 0.5 second I need to escape)

    or maybe it means that now that I'm back in gold 4 I can potentially win on whatever adc and it doesn't matter if I play something like Ezreal who I have never played ranked and have barely played at all

    man, who knows

    Honestly Ez/dash adc's are so absurdly safe they feel like different characters to the current meta adc crop.

    Though yeah, I agree, people are absurdly bad at picking tanks and actually disrupting dives. They all wanna play tanks that thrust a comp and win.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    most current meta tanks want to go in, not play defensively.

    like, the current meta tanks are all vanguards like zac, ornn, sej, amumu. they all want to go in and blow up a teamfight, and their peel tools are lackluster generally. even that combo leona rammus malphite that is 3 diving tanks. they all want to go in, hard. the game does not reward them for sitting next to their carry and hoping someone comes into them, especially with all 3 because they're just going to get poked out and you lose the fight without even having it.

    basically if you want to play a normal adc you need an enchanter to help you (janna/lulu/soraka) or you're going back to the nexus unless you wait out everyone's cds. otherwise there's a reason that the meta traditional adcs right now are like, draven (absurd early damage), jhin (extreme range lets him participate without participating), and sivir (insane overtuned numbers on her aoe).

    this is why i am a jungle main now and not an adc main, it's just not worth playing until you're at higher levels imo.

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    IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    Knight_ wrote: »
    like, the current meta tanks are all vanguards like zac, ornn, sej, amumu. they all want to go in and blow up a teamfight, and their peel tools are lackluster generally. even that combo leona rammus malphite that is 3 diving tanks. they all want to go in, hard. the game does not reward them for sitting next to their carry and hoping someone comes into them, especially with all 3 because they're just going to get poked out and you lose the fight without even having it.

    Having engage tools is good, but if that's the game state and you need to just stay on your carry, you absolutely should. It's not like Leona is punished for ulting on top of her ADC or Zenith Blade-ing to someone chasing one of her allies to buy space. Sometimes you have games where that needs to be your job: there's no need to land the perfect 5-man stun if you have no damage alive to clean it up.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    she is punished though?

    every second engage tanks are standing around is a second the other team is either engaging better or poking them down

    if leona is on top of her carry and the fight is happening, odds are very good she lost tempo on the fight and was hard engaged on by something and it's probably already over unless the other team is way behind or misplays

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    she is punished though?

    every second engage tanks are standing around is a second the other team is either engaging better or poking them down

    if leona is on top of her carry and the fight is happening, odds are very good she lost tempo on the fight and was hard engaged on by something and it's probably already over unless the other team is way behind or misplays

    If no one can touch your 6 and 0 adc it literally doesn’t matter that they’re poking a support Leona.

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    she is punished though?

    every second engage tanks are standing around is a second the other team is either engaging better or poking them down

    if leona is on top of her carry and the fight is happening, odds are very good she lost tempo on the fight and was hard engaged on by something and it's probably already over unless the other team is way behind or misplays

    totally depends on the fight

    if your carry is better than their carry, it's often worth it to peel. Certainly in the game I played with 3 low-damage tanks, one of them might have come back to help. And sure, it's more fun to engage, but you can also use your E to go backwards! It's not like failing to engage is 'standing around'--or it shouldn't be, anyway

    I really like playing with Ivellius on tanks because he 100% will e.g. engage on Rammus and then roll back around and taunt whoever seems like they might be killing me on adc. He peels very, very effectively on engage tanks, even when sometimes this means doing a defensive amumu ult to block people coming in, rather than to find their backline--and it works well!

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    LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Philosopher King The AcademyRegistered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    she is punished though?

    every second engage tanks are standing around is a second the other team is either engaging better or poking them down

    if leona is on top of her carry and the fight is happening, odds are very good she lost tempo on the fight and was hard engaged on by something and it's probably already over unless the other team is way behind or misplays

    totally depends on the fight

    if your carry is better than their carry, it's often worth it to peel. Certainly in the game I played with 3 low-damage tanks, one of them might have come back to help. And sure, it's more fun to engage, but you can also use your E to go backwards! It's not like failing to engage is 'standing around'--or it shouldn't be, anyway

    I really like playing with Ivellius on tanks because he 100% will e.g. engage on Rammus and then roll back around and taunt whoever seems like they might be killing me on adc. He peels very, very effectively on engage tanks, even when sometimes this means doing a defensive amumu ult to block people coming in, rather than to find their backline--and it works well!

    Yeah, if you take out one of the enemy carries because they dove in and you locked them down. Then you lost nothing while they lost a team mate and then you clean up. Better than dying at the end of the fight as a tank because you locked down a back line damage source and suddenly you have no team left because they all died to their jungle and mid who jumped back there and blew them up.

    I mean, I've been playing basically nothing but Akali for the last couple days and I'm super happy when no one peels because it just means that I get to blow up the back line. I can for sure kill them before they can kill me.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    akali is functionally unpeelable if played correctly tho

    no tank is fast enough to keep up with her and she has insane ability to delay with her shroud. you need your own midlaner or top fighter to actually force her to run or die, tanks tickle her and then she's 3 screens away after oneshotting a squishy

    lost 4 ranked games in a row, just absolutely horrendous team fails and people making idiotic plays. two games in a row where my bot lane gets double killed before i finish krugs. like, i ended up doing about 50% of the team's total damage in my last game, just no clue what on earth i'm supposed to do to carry these matches.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Akali's hard to catch but she can still be peeled/forced to play in a way that makes your carry safer.

    Just because it's tougher to do doesn't mean there's zero value in just sitting there being obnoxious for the enemy divers.

    Alternatively everyone should play Poppy more. That stuffs literally every dive, ever, for all time.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    It’s probably also why Amumu support has been on the rise lately.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    amumu does way more damage than an engage support like leona, he can basically still instakill adcs level 2 where leona has a very hard time actually surviving the all in due to a lack of damage, and his ult is way more devastating

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    leona being considered an engage tank only still greatly perplexes me

    pretty easy to land, fast, long range root? point click stun that combos into a massive ult stun if necessary? what diver isn't gonna shit their pants at a leona that knows to keep track of their ADC?

    well, fizz and ekko, but they don't count

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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    huh I had another bit of success with ezreal, although lane was a little rough as I didn't think I would have to tell my support alistair "don't engage onto rakan and then walk slowly at kalista filling up with spears all before our first back, where I am sitting on a tear and also she's kalista, you idiot"

    but yeah I should not assume competence and ought to have just said 'hey don't engage unless we get a friendly gank, I have tear and low dmg, sorry it'll be boring lane for a while.' But once I was able to decouple from Ali, who was garbage, I managed to have such a safe time of it and output a pretty solid amount of damage

    whereas I somehow am not finding any success with Sivir despite her being one of my most played champions for years and years and also currently potentially overtuned and with a high winrate. Shouldn't that mean I do especially well with her...? I really don't understand. Maybe I just really haven't adjusted from lethality build playstyle to crit build playstyle

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I have discovered why sad mummy is the number 2 support in the meta atm

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    love games where my bot lane has died 4 times before my first clear is over.

    against a nilah.

    with lucian alistar.

    have lost 5 lillia games in a row, every one my lanes literally cannot stop inting. the nilah was 10/1 before 10 minutes, and down 2 entire items the lucian alistar are up under the enemy tower trying to fight. it's just fucking exhausting.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    I will say trying to play from behind in this game is super boring

    avoiding fights and just trying to suck up as much passive farm as you can is so incredibly not fun

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i mean, if you refuse to be carried please don't play ranked

    people who have to be the main character of every game and will sprint it down because "bro the nilah looks low" even though she gets a billion percent lifesteal and you're a full item behind her ruin so many games.

    happened again, 10/1/2 nilah at 14 minutes what fun

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    dw I only play to fill when my friends are missing one for their full stack so I'm only subjecting it to people who quite literally asked for it

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    I really appreciate them adding more pings to the game

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    It’s a real choice to add a dedicated harass ping to league but I guess lean in (I know it doesn’t mean that but it’s very funny)

    I just hope this new ping wheel actually works, I’m so tired of pinging on the way and instead pinging danger because the ping wheel has has a mind of its own for a year

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