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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    yuumi is just such a badly designed champion, you gotta wonder what they were thinking tbh.

    “We need a champion for people who don’t like the game but are constantly dragged into it by their friends.”

    I think they designed the champion especially for women who are asked to duo support but yeah are perhaps not super interested (obviously not saying this is the case for all women who play league; however the playerbase is overwhelmingly male and straight so there are a lot of women who end up in this situation!) The way the design is hyper cute just kinda makes me think that. And I do think it's advantageous for them to create champions like that, so you can play with your less invested friends! (Also obviously a high skill, on point Yuumi can really do a lot jumping out and blocking skillshots, etc; not saying that isn't true).

    I think the designers did not quite think about how bad invulnerability feels to play against. Which you think they might know after they had to redesign Poppy. I think also that the relative sparsity of healing is good for League, or it's what I'm used to anyway, so playing against big heals feels (emotionally, if not rationally) unfair and unusual. I was banning Yuumi for a while cause I hate how she enables assassins who I would otherwise blow up! But now I'm banning Hecarim or Yasuo again, so my Yuumi hate subsided I guess.

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  • PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    Queing as Yuumi with a Hec duo is *Muah chefs kiss*

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Been relearning ADC, don't think I've yet seen a bard that didn't feed like a maniac, but all the same, I'm 2-0 in my gold promos.

    e: think my incredible run of matchmaking luck has finally run out.

    e2: wait nm lol
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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular

    that third kill is among the hardest i've ever laughed at league. i ended 13/0/2, ori had 5 deaths and 4 of them were to my ult, 3 cross map. SMDR is the best ability in league of legends.

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Phasen wrote: »
    Queing as Yuumi with a Hec duo is *Muah chefs kiss*

    Garen yuumie was. Power lane for a little while. I was happy because everyone's first favorite champion was in the meta.

  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Watched a sneaky video and he was using the blitzgg app. What is this and why should I install it?

  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    my supports are being mean to me ;_;

    ;_;

    ;_;

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    my supports are being mean to me ;_;

    ;_;

    ;_;

    I always just farm at tower and let them go all in in their own when my support ints. Fuck em.

  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    my supports are being mean to me ;_;

    ;_;

    ;_;

    I always just farm at tower and let them go all in in their own when my support ints. Fuck em.

    But what if the support says 'adc gap' and you're like NO IT ISNT AN ADC GAP ;_;

    (I mute them and their pings and say nothing but it makes me mad)

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  • PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    my supports are being mean to me ;_;

    ;_;

    ;_;

    I always just farm at tower and let them go all in in their own when my support ints. Fuck em.

    But what if the support says 'adc gap' and you're like NO IT ISNT AN ADC GAP ;_;

    (I mute them and their pings and say nothing but it makes me mad)

    But what if there is an ADC gap?

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    yuumi is not for support players yuumi is for people who specialise in the smug passive aggressive role, an incredibly important part of inflicting emotional damage on the opposing team

    pls respect

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  • R-demR-dem Registered User regular
    I was once having a bad game top and our Yuumi support was like "sigh our top laner has no arms" and literally my entire team was like "wtf you're playing Yuumi"

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    R-dem wrote: »
    I was once having a bad game top and our Yuumi support was like "sigh our top laner has no arms" and literally my entire team was like "wtf you're playing Yuumi"

    a top laner below master thinking they have arms and flaming a cat GODDESS now thats incredibly embarrassing

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Thinking about diving back into LoL.

    Vel'Koz still a viable champion?

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Thinking about diving back into LoL.

    Vel'Koz still a viable champion?

    If you don't mind playing support

    With very slightly more detail, I do like him, but he feels bad playing into any assassins...and some fighters, even.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    literally every seraphine i've laned with has made me want to put an icepick through my brain. they all fuck with waves, steal cs, and basically are trying to play the carry with an adc next to them.

    the one i just finished a game with abandoned me at 5 minutes, left me in lane against ez/maokai with an elise chain diving me under tower, and even mid/late game refused to stop stealing cs, she ended with 134 in 40 minutes. like, it wasn't just catching cs, she was rotating to waves i was going to and clearing it with spells while i was.

    i'm this close to banning sera so i never have to play with one, which is something i've never done. idk how an uwu egirl champion has the literal worst humans in league playing her, but somehow they did it, they beat the draven and yasuo mains. congrats guys.

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    literally every seraphine i've laned with has made me want to put an icepick through my brain. they all fuck with waves, steal cs, and basically are trying to play the carry with an adc next to them.

    the one i just finished a game with abandoned me at 5 minutes, left me in lane against ez/maokai with an elise chain diving me under tower, and even mid/late game refused to stop stealing cs, she ended with 134 in 40 minutes. like, it wasn't just catching cs, she was rotating to waves i was going to and clearing it with spells while i was.

    i'm this close to banning sera so i never have to play with one, which is something i've never done. idk how an uwu egirl champion has the literal worst humans in league playing her, but somehow they did it, they beat the draven and yasuo mains. congrats guys.

    Ah man I had a great Jhin/Sera lane earlier. She was playing it like...hm, basically like if you had a Neeko support, just trying to land her poke so I could follow with W and then we either follow up with more or leave it there. It was a super dominant lane into Ezreal Zyra, which I would basically expect I think.

    Phasen wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    my supports are being mean to me ;_;

    ;_;

    ;_;

    I always just farm at tower and let them go all in in their own when my support ints. Fuck em.

    But what if the support says 'adc gap' and you're like NO IT ISNT AN ADC GAP ;_;

    (I mute them and their pings and say nothing but it makes me mad)

    But what if there is an ADC gap?

    How DARE u

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    ya i'm not saying anything about sera the champion, i've played into some sera comps that are difficult to deal with.

    it's the players, they're all like midlaners who don't feel like queuing mid or something.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Majority of my supports I feel are top/mid mains who get autofilled and pick carry supports they don’t really know how to play as a kind of silent protest against the injustice of it all

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I tend to play a carry support in ranked simply because I don’t trust randos.

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    Majority of my supports I feel are top/mid mains who get autofilled and pick carry supports they don’t really know how to play as a kind of silent protest against the injustice of it all

    I queue Top/Support and I normally play carry supports. Either my ADC is going to feed or they will be competent but top will feed so we need two carries to deal with one of us getting deleted every fight.

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    if u type "x gap" and ur below gm ur 100% guaranteed bad

    its just how it is

    everybody out there blaming everybody other than themselves for the fact they are embarrassingly, awe-inducingly bad at a very basic videogame

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    carry supports are great, i love playing with a brand or swain who just 1v2s the lane while i get to hit people sometimes on our all ins and cs in peace lol.

    but like, just remember i exist every once in a while in the midgame and don't steal all the cs and we're good.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    based on Cred's suggestion I have been trying out morg a few times

    Still not great on her shield but its amazing what even a poorly timed shield will do when the enemy team has a rammus and the only AP they have is on Akali.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Honestly, I’ve been mulling over support Sera a bit. I’ve had some really good games with her... and some where it went poorly. I’m starting to think going full support items on her is a bit of a trap. She definitely feels like she *wants* big AP mage items to keep her abilities feeling like a threat. The weaker stuff like Athene’s and Ardent really feel like they were meant for enchanters, which she really isn’t.

    Economy and actually being able to *afford* said items is a different problem. I wonder how much of her was built for the upcoming item rework.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    So I've only been playing URF and I've played almost 20 games as Maokai now and it is so fun. Just had a game where we were losing and then it all turned around and I 1v2 against Galio and Sylas while my teams Amumu and Akali cleaned up Trist, Anivia, and Morgana.

    The game before that my friend as Blitz and me as Maokai 2v5 their team and scored an ace, I got a quadra cause I got to the fight late.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    To be clear, carry supports are legit and I have coasted to several wins behind a 25-Mejais-stack brand or swain before. But I still get a twinge of uncertainty whenever I see one locked in and wonder if I’m getting one of those or if I’m getting a mid main autofill who’s going to fuck my wave, abandon lane when our opponents are freezing, and spend minutes waiting in the enemy jungle brush to try to one-shot someone three levels above them.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    blitz.gg has a thing where if you do less damage than your support as an adc it complains about your performance.

    i have had it yell at me when the brand who's "supporting" me does like 65k damage. what do you want! i did what i could but i was just in the backpack on this one blitz!

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    based on Cred's suggestion I have been trying out morg a few times

    Still not great on her shield but its amazing what even a poorly timed shield will do when the enemy team has a rammus and the only AP they have is on Akali.

    Morgana support is really worthwhile to have. She fills this really unique place on a team--almost like Thresh in a way, in that she's very pick oriented and also has some utility that no one else has.
    If you are good at black shield, you can utterly deny an engage 2v2, and it's just great. Or in a teamfight later, instead of using it reactively you can preemptively drop it on someone like a Talon and give him license to do his business unperturbed by enemy cc.
    I think in lane she can be kind of hard, because if you do land your Qs it's huge poke damage or allin, but if you don't--and sometimes you just can't--you end up being kind of reactive--and yet have to stay even with your adc positionwise in order to pressure.
    You can do a full AP sort of build or you can build a bunch of support items or do half and half, and they're all good.

    Morgana is great, basically.

    Wrt carry supports, I pretty much stopped playing support when they put in the item that penalizes you for csing. So...ummmm....well. Perhaps I am the problem. To be clear, I wouldn't ever take cs in lane, but sometimes during the games there were times where I needed to push out a lane and I hate getting punished for doing so!

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Also perhaps 40 LP gold 2 is just an accurate reflection of my skill level; I mean I'm seem to be incapable of going much above or below it so maybe that's where I am as adc this season and that's that.
    Still for the next 7 days I'm going to try.
    Rules:
    1. Only play Jhin or Sivir do not randomly pick someone else; idc that you've had a few amazing performances on Kai'sa in like bronze flex queue, you always get absolutely bodied as Kai'sa in ranked.
    2. Dodge absolutely shitty lobbies even if that means you can't play again until tomorrow and there's 7 days left in the season. You understand comps enough to know when you see garbage that has like a 30% chance of winning at best.
    3. Play one warm up game first to make sure you aren't too hungry and/or drunk to be able to actually play well

    let's gooo

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    You only get punished for CSing too much. Randomly taking some creep late in the game usually isn’t enough to trigger it, and it does fade over time.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    I think it’s 4 cs per minute? It’s actually a lot to hit the penalty iirc

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  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    I played LoL something like since 2013 to 2017, but was never any good (Gold III at best) - after buying new PC at 2017 I stopped playing to focus on single player games, because I was getting too frustrated with losing. I return to the game in 2018 for osmething like a month, but soon stopped playing again (I guess it was when Kai'Sa and Neeko were released?).

    Now, I reinstalled the game again because my best friend, who stopped playing even sooner than me (maybe in 2014?) got an idea to return here and play with me in co-op.

    How much did change in last 2 years in the game? Should I read about any changes in meta before returning to the game? I still have something 12600 Blue Essence, which should allow me to buy 2 new champions - which ones would you recommend for someone with a low skill level, like me?

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    what roles/champions did you play?

    also there have been a lot of changes, and in uh.... 8? days the new preseason is going live that is going to totally rework the item system which is probably going to totally upend the meta anyway, so i wouldn't spend too much time digging into the current stuff.

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    If your intent is to stick strictly to co-op, there are a LOT more bots around (and by "bots" I don't mean the AI controlled enemy champions)...so, if you're going to have 2-3 randoms joining you, plan on bringing something self-sufficient. I find Lux, Zoe, Nidalee, and Jinx make for solid choices (actually, there are a bunch that are good choices...I just have a soft spot for those 4 if I'm expecting to have a couple of bots on my team).

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  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Knight_ wrote: »
    what roles/champions did you play?

    also there have been a lot of changes, and in uh.... 8? days the new preseason is going live that is going to totally rework the item system which is probably going to totally upend the meta anyway, so i wouldn't spend too much time digging into the current stuff.

    I was mostly sticking to Top, while also sometimes playing Jungle or Support when it was required. I liked Mid, but I was not very good at it.

    I guess my most used champions were Irelia, Fiora, Vi, Swain, Poppy, Leona and Trundle?

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  • tosoraktosorak Registered User regular
    I have no idea if he's in a good place right now, but I always enjoy landing a Mundo cleaver. Especially if you get the skin that turns them into ukuleles. Id suggest playing a bunch of ARAMs and see if a new character catches your eye.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Just bear in mind that there's no ARAM-coop mode. Shoot...Riot even removed Twisted Treeline from the game, so that's one fewer map to play in co-op.

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Asthariel wrote: »
    I was mostly sticking to Top, while also sometimes playing Jungle or Support when it was required. I liked Mid, but I was not very good at it.

    I guess my most used champions were Irelia, Fiora, Vi, Swain, Poppy, Leona and Trundle?

    Swain is very different now...

    If you're really wanting a new champion or two, try out Sett? He's very simple and a solid top laner; he's decent enough to fill as jungle or support if desired as well. Punch all the things. And feel free to add me if you want to play not co-op...though maybe not until after the season ends (going to attempt to grind ranked).

    As @Knight_ is noting, preseason is just about to hit, so the item system is being completely reworked soon. That might scramble things a bit.

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  • AstharielAsthariel The Book Eater Registered User regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    Asthariel wrote: »
    I was mostly sticking to Top, while also sometimes playing Jungle or Support when it was required. I liked Mid, but I was not very good at it.

    I guess my most used champions were Irelia, Fiora, Vi, Swain, Poppy, Leona and Trundle?

    Swain is very different now...

    If you're really wanting a new champion or two, try out Sett? He's very simple and a solid top laner; he's decent enough to fill as jungle or support if desired as well. Punch all the things. And feel free to add me if you want to play not co-op...though maybe not until after the season ends (going to attempt to grind ranked).

    As @Knight_ is noting, preseason is just about to hit, so the item system is being completely reworked soon. That might scramble things a bit.

    I think I played some Swain after his rework, so unless he got reworked again, I think I will manage.

    I also read already that Sett seems like a champion in my style, so I will probably try him out.

    Also, I am from EUNE, so I will probably be unable to play with most of you, unless Riot abandoned this dumb rule that you have to pay money to change servers?

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