Adventures in Lordran - or tales of brave Sir Onion

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I mean if we're just gonna post Bloodborne fanart I'll put this forward:
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  • SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    Dark souls remastered is £13 on the PlayStation store.

    This thread has made me very tempted to get it. I think I'll go for a plain warrior as they seem the most study and forgiving for new players.

    Is magic as much as faff as it seems?

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited August 25
    Going to try and dark soul a bit this evening. Just need to carve a path through all the boxes and random shit piled on my floor so I can get my PC set up. This threads given me bad fomo

    Brovid Hasselsmof on
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  • Devlin_DragonusDevlin_Dragonus Gorgeous Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Dark souls remastered is £13 on the PlayStation store.

    This thread has made me very tempted to get it. I think I'll go for a plain warrior as they seem the most study and forgiving for new players.

    Is magic as much as faff as it seems?

    I bought it yesterday because it was on sale and just now noticed the thread.

    Someone preempted my question on what is a good starting build, I started wit warrior in case anyone has other suggestions.

    I got nothing for you now. Try again later.

  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited August 25
    cB557 wrote: »
    Platy wrote: »
    I forgot that you actually need the Master Key to get to Havel, considering how frequently new players used to talk about getting smashed by him

    You do not, one of the directions you can approach him from is unlocked. Can't remember which one but I assume the darkroot side.
    You still need a key for the Darkroot side. I can never remember where you get it.

    You can get it pretty quickly and effortlessly if you make a beeline for it but the master key is just such an easy pick I suppose lol

    Location:
    Moonlight Butterfly

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Null Registered User regular
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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Dark souls remastered is £13 on the PlayStation store.

    This thread has made me very tempted to get it. I think I'll go for a plain warrior as they seem the most study and forgiving for new players.

    Is magic as much as faff as it seems?

    Warriors are forgiving if you carry the best shield you can find and block everything (alternatively carry the Zweihander and pancake enemies with the strong attack)

    There are two kinds of magic, sorcerey is slow and weird at first but it allows you to eventually brute-force your way through most of the encounters in the game, the later spells do a lot of damage

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I am really bad at this game

    Kristmas KthulhuMr Fuzzbutt
  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    if you just want to focus on being a sword guy and never raising faith or intelligence, you can still mess around with pyromancy a bit for fun, since it's just tied to buying items and upgrades primarily

    even just getting the defensive pyromancies and a grenade or two can add some nice flexibility to how you approach situations, imo

    Kristmas Kthulhu
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Some notes on shields

    They have differing resistances to the various damage types

    For example a shield with 96% physical resistance and 35% fire resistance will block 96% of physical damage but only 35% of the damage you'd receive from a fireball landing on your shield

    Shields also have something called stability, a shield with a higher stability will cause you to lose less stamina upon blocking an attack

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I just spent a bunch of souls on a spear to learn I can't actually use it properly

    Should I even be buying gear at all or just finding it?

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I am really bad at this game

    We all were

    If you two-hand the hand-axe and attack with the strong attack, it should kill most hollows up to the Taurus Demon in one hit

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I would pump all souls into vitality and endurance for now

    You can eventually buy all gear later

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Hitting things isn't so bad it's not getting hit back. Even though I know I should dodge I just don't. And when I do remember to a lot of the time the enemy attacks seem to track me and hit me anyway.

    Also I keep trying to attack from too far away because I guess I forget this isn't Witcher 3.

  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Platy wrote: »
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Dark souls remastered is £13 on the PlayStation store.

    This thread has made me very tempted to get it. I think I'll go for a plain warrior as they seem the most study and forgiving for new players.

    Is magic as much as faff as it seems?

    Warriors are forgiving if you carry the best shield you can find and block everything (alternatively carry the Zweihander and pancake enemies with the strong attack)

    There are two kinds of magic, sorcerey is slow and weird at first but it allows you to eventually brute-force your way through most of the encounters in the game, the later spells do a lot of damage

    Magic buids are powerful but they take a while to gel. If you want a good starting class that can do ranged magic, pyromancer is a solid choice.

    Overall, I'd say the Knight, Warrior, and Pyromancer are the best options for new players.

  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Dark souls remastered is £13 on the PlayStation store.

    This thread has made me very tempted to get it. I think I'll go for a plain warrior as they seem the most study and forgiving for new players.

    Is magic as much as faff as it seems?

    I bought it yesterday because it was on sale and just now noticed the thread.

    Someone preempted my question on what is a good starting build, I started wit warrior in case anyone has other suggestions.

    I recommend beginner player do knight class first for survivability and learning purposes since they start with a good shield and high hp, if you want to pick up magic though the Pyromancer comes with a shield along a fireball spell which is pretty handy early game. It's not a hard recommendation though since everyone have their own playstyle and preference. Overall I will only not recommend the deprived and hunter class as your first character due to the lack of experience and certain information

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  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    I just spent a bunch of souls on a spear to learn I can't actually use it properly

    Should I even be buying gear at all or just finding it?
    i generally would recommend just using what you find, there are a lot of good weapons and armor that can be found in levels (without randomly dropping from enemies) and it's hard to know if you'll actually like a weapon until you've swung it around a bit

    when you're in an item menu you can use the X button (on a 360 controller, i guess it's probably square on the playstation?) to flip through and see the required stats on gear, it's kind of an easy detail to miss with how busy those pages are

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Hitting things isn't so bad it's not getting hit back. Even though I know I should dodge I just don't. And when I do remember to a lot of the time the enemy attacks seem to track me and hit me anyway.

    Also I keep trying to attack from too far away because I guess I forget this isn't Witcher 3.
    Grabbing a decent shield and getting the stats to use that spear is an option. Spears can attack while your shield is raised. It costs more stamina, but if you keep having trouble with dodging it's a pretty effective alternative. If you keep working at dodging it'll probably click with you in time, though.
    Don't forget, the main power of the dodge isn't in getting you away from an attack, it's using its invincibility frames to just kinda phase through it.

    ShortyKristmas Kthulhu
  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    Hitting things isn't so bad it's not getting hit back. Even though I know I should dodge I just don't. And when I do remember to a lot of the time the enemy attacks seem to track me and hit me anyway.

    Also I keep trying to attack from too far away because I guess I forget this isn't Witcher 3.
    Grabbing a decent shield and getting the stats to use that spear is an option. Spears can attack while your shield is raised. It costs more stamina, but if you keep having trouble with dodging it's a pretty effective alternative. If you keep working at dodging it'll probably click with you in time, though.
    Don't forget, the main power of the dodge isn't in getting you away from an attack, it's using its invincibility frames to just kinda phase through it.

    The estoc is also good for long distance poking:

    Kristmas KthulhucB557Fencingsax
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I would still advise against rolling forward into the enemy and rolling backwards gains distance which is important against multiple enemies

    A bad habit many people pick up is rolling into the same direction your enemy is swinging, this is how you eventually get shreked by Fume Knight

    cB557Shorty
  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I don't get the invincibility frames thing because sometimes I get hit even though I dodge

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    You're invincible only during part of the animation

    How much invincibility you get depends on your current speed (fast, medium, slow) which is determined by how encumbered you are

    With the fast roll you used to get roughly 0,44 seconds of invincibility in the middle of the animation

    Kristmas KthulhucB557Naphtali
  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I usually intuit the i-frames of the dodge as the part where you're not touching the ground. I'm not sure how accurate that is to the actual frame data, but it's worked for me so far.

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I don't like how the attacks can track you. Like I start rolling as they start swinging and they turn and hit me where I end up. I'm sure I'll get used to it but it's annoying right now.

    Tamin
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    A corpse should be left well enough alone.

    Naphtali
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited August 25
    That last piece is sweeeet

    (last page)

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I started playing Bloodbourne again and man

    Bloodbourne is just so good. SO GOOD. Best Fromsoft game by far for me.

    Naphtali
  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited August 25
    lol at you adding a U to Bloodborne. Your English is showing.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    lol at you adding a U to Bloodborne. Your English is showing.

    I do it a lot too and my englishness is two generations out!

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    lol at you adding a U to Bloodborne. Your English is showing.

    Hahaha I didn't even notice... you gotta get those u's in!

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited August 25
    A bourne is a stream. So Bloodborne means "carried by blood" while Bloodbourne means "a stream of blood".

    I don't have a point here I just thought it was interesting.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Both highly appropriate, really...

    Naphtali
  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Now I'm gonna go play some more Dark Soughls

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited August 25
    my favorite bit of real bad localization relating to bloodborne and its title is there there is a boss in the chalice dungeons named Bloodletting Beast, which is an apropos name

    except that in japanese the name translates to The Origin of the Beast Blood which changes the fucking meaning a whole lot

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Now I'm gonna go play some more Dark Soughls

    I personally enjoy a bit of Sekirou: Shadouws Die Twice

  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I don't like how the attacks can track you. Like I start rolling as they start swinging and they turn and hit me where I end up. I'm sure I'll get used to it but it's annoying right now.
    There's generally a point in the attack where the tracking ends. During the startup they can usually still track you, but once they actually swing they're locked in. I think. I've never really thought about when exactly it happens before.

    Kristmas Kthulhufurlion
  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    A thing I appreciated when playing Bloodborne was the ease at which the PS4 could save video clips and upload them to youtube, so I could record myself fighting bosses and then never watch them again and no one else will either but they are there and every couple months I can remember they exist and look at my uploads list then nod appreciatively before moving on with my life.

    The only clip worth showing other people is this one.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    I don't like how the attacks can track you. Like I start rolling as they start swinging and they turn and hit me where I end up. I'm sure I'll get used to it but it's annoying right now.
    There's generally a point in the attack where the tracking ends. During the startup they can usually still track you, but once they actually swing they're locked in. I think. I've never really thought about when exactly it happens before.

    except in dark souls 2 where shit will just do a 180 to hit you all the time

    Fencingsax
  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    In DS1 it's generally very easy to walk around enemies as they're doing their attack animation and stab them in the back

    Fencingsax
  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I will get better at it.

    Just as soon as I stop throwing myself off of scenery like the guy in that clip

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