Has there been a movie with a more false title than All Dogs Go to Heaven?
We just talked about Fantastic Beasts on the previous page.
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astrobstrdSo full of mercy...Registered Userregular
Freddy doesn’t get religious until part 3 and then gets weirdly pro-life in part 5.
There is some Christian imagery in 1, but he’s actually defeated with Balinese Hinduism. Hell, he even explicitly mocks Tina’s appeal to God. Craven had a complicated relationship with Christian faith.
Has there been a movie with a more false title than All Dogs Go to Heaven?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I’m struggling to identify any Christian ideals in Nightmare on Elm Street, but it’s been a few years.
There is a lot of subtext background stuff in 1 3 4 5 and 6 from coming back from the dead. The mob justice of death though fire and other things
I just remember from long ago it was part of a discussion of how a lot of horror movies have religionist tones in them
Like the trope of pre martial sex = death
You can watch Birdbox and Two Popes on Netflix without an account now. Remember 2018, when the Birdbox challenge seemed like one of the dumbest things people would do? Good times
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It seems wild to me that there is a discussion on Christianity's influence and display going on right now about all of the Nightmare on Elm Street films except for the second one.
I wonder what the second one's connection to conservative Christianity in America could be....
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Man, I have a kooky idea for horror movies.
How about...an ORIGINAL IP
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KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
Wow. Amazing. Nobody makes original horror these days :?
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
there has always been and there will always be too many remakes; you are just finally old enough that the majority of what is being remade is stuff you were already familiar with
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
honestly the parts of the first Fantastic Beasts where it's just autistic-coded Newt Scamander running around with the titular Beasts were like, some of the most relatable, aimed-squarely-at-me media ever produced
shame about the rest of the film and the franchise since then
Horror film from the perspective of ghosts, who are just trying to live their life after death, and humans come in and fucking murder them because they are terrified by the mere existence of the ghosts.
Horror film from the perspective of ghosts, who are just trying to live their life after death, and humans come in and fucking murder them because they are terrified by the mere existence of the ghosts.
Horror film from the perspective of ghosts, who are just trying to live their life after death, and humans come in and fucking murder them because they are terrified by the mere existence of the ghosts.
So a slightly more aggressive Beetlejuice
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
Wow. Amazing. Nobody makes original horror these days :?
There’s SOME. But there could be a lot more if they stop remaking everything.
Okay but, hear me out, could there?
Or is the remake engine an important part of keeping the genre thriving?
I have nothing specifically against remakes. Just feels like they keep remaking the remakes these days.
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
Right, what I'm saying is that remakes are worth a lot of money. Some of that is box office numbers, and some of that is fake theoretical money, but the fact of the matter is that remakes or continuations of existing IPs are worth a lot of money to someone.
And I won't pretend to understand any sort of Hollywood accounting, but if your production company gets investors or box office numbers or whatever based on their newest remake of a classic horror franchise, then they will have that money to potentially fund additional movies - maybe those will also be remakes, but maybe they will be new and original IPs.
Similarly for directors, who might be trusted more with their original vision (or trusted with more of the money that they need to make their original vision) after they do a good job of remaking a big familiar property.
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Horror film from the perspective of ghosts, who are just trying to live their life after death, and humans come in and fucking murder them because they are terrified by the mere existence of the ghosts.
So a slightly more aggressive Beetlejuice
yeah, that's totally Beetlejuice.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Right, what I'm saying is that remakes are worth a lot of money. Some of that is box office numbers, and some of that is fake theoretical money, but the fact of the matter is that remakes or continuations of existing IPs are worth a lot of money to someone.
And I won't pretend to understand any sort of Hollywood accounting, but if your production company gets investors or box office numbers or whatever based on their newest remake of a classic horror franchise, then they will have that money to potentially fund additional movies - maybe those will also be remakes, but maybe they will be new and original IPs.
Similarly for directors, who might be trusted more with their original vision (or trusted with more of the money that they need to make their original vision) after they do a good job of remaking a big familiar property.
It makes sense. You need to have the sure fire easy money makers so you can make the risky original pieces.
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astrobstrdSo full of mercy...Registered Userregular
You also get people with fresh takes on an idea with genuine love for the material. I think each remake needs to be met on its own terms. Suspiria, Satan's Slaves, The Thing, The Fly, etc. all work.
Also, people who think there aren't original horror ideas aren't paying attention to horror. This is a thrilling time to be a fan.
I sincerely can't think of a time in my life I've loved horror more than the last six years of output (years are per Wiki lists and/or Letterboxd, sorry if a film is in the wrong year when it came to a certain country)
2014: Babadook; A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night; It Follows; Under the Skin
2015: Crimson Peak; The Witch; Ex Machina; We Are Still Here
2016: Train to Busan; Raw; Ouija Origin of Evil; Hush; The Eyes of My Mother; Antibirth; Autopsy of Jane Doe; Lights Out; The Love Witch; 10 Cloverfield Lane
2017: Annabelle Creation; Get Out; Happy Death Day; Killing of a Sacred Deer; Cult of Chucky; mother!
2018: Annihilation; Suspiria 2018; The First Purge; Halloween 2018; Hereditary; In Fabric; Climax; Upgrade; Unsane; Summer of 84
2019: Midsommar; Ready or Not; The Lighthouse; Doctor Sleep; Happy Death Day 2U; The Perfection; Bliss; Crawl; Color out of Space; Us; One Cut of the Dead
This year so far: The Invisible Man; She Dies Tomorrow; The Assistant; The Lodge; Relic; Host; Horse Girl; Vivarium; The Other Lamb; Bit
Even the years that didn't have much like 2014 and 2015, what we got was so good the quality more than made up for the output. And from 2018 on it feels like we've gotten a more-than-healthy amount of both. 55 films that I remembered, saw, and felt were worth listing as my immediate highlights from the period, and only ten are remakes and/or sequels
I sincerely can't think of a time in my life I've loved horror more than the last six years of output (years are per Wiki lists and/or Letterboxd, sorry if a film is in the wrong year when it came to a certain country)
2014: Babadook; A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night; It Follows; Under the Skin
2015: Crimson Peak; The Witch; Ex Machina; We Are Still Here
2016: Train to Busan; Raw; Ouija Origin of Evil; Hush; The Eyes of My Mother; Antibirth; Autopsy of Jane Doe; Lights Out; The Love Witch; 10 Cloverfield Lane
2017: Annabelle Creation; Get Out; Happy Death Day; Killing of a Sacred Deer; Cult of Chucky; mother!
2018: Annihilation; Suspiria 2018; The First Purge; Halloween 2018; Hereditary; In Fabric; Climax; Upgrade; Unsane; Summer of 84
2019: Midsommar; Ready or Not; The Lighthouse; Doctor Sleep; Happy Death Day 2U; The Perfection; Bliss; Crawl; Color out of Space; Us
This year so far: The Invisible Man; She Dies Tomorrow; The Lodge; Relic; Host; Horse Girl; Vivarium; The Other Lamb; Bit
Even the years that didn't have much like 2014 and 2015, what we got was so good the quality more than made up for the output. And from 2018 on it feels like we've gotten a more-than-healthy amount of both. 53 films that I remembered, saw, and felt were worth listing as my immediate highlights from the period, and only ten are remakes and/or sequels
It's a shame that this entire post has to be disregarded because it left out One Cut of the Dead.
Action!
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
I get pumped reading someone else's list like that because there is so much I disagree with or feel was left out and even without putting together my own list that makes it deeply exciting to me.
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We still have dogs?
Dogs were left here as a trick by the devil to test us
This is part of his dark propaganda
Well, multiple tool use, anyways
We just talked about Fantastic Beasts on the previous page.
There is some Christian imagery in 1, but he’s actually defeated with Balinese Hinduism. Hell, he even explicitly mocks Tina’s appeal to God. Craven had a complicated relationship with Christian faith.
Isn’t the point that all dogs do go to heaven initially, but if they go back then they can go to hell
There is a lot of subtext background stuff in 1 3 4 5 and 6 from coming back from the dead. The mob justice of death though fire and other things
I just remember from long ago it was part of a discussion of how a lot of horror movies have religionist tones in them
Like the trope of pre martial sex = death
I wonder what the second one's connection to conservative Christianity in America could be....
How about...an ORIGINAL IP
There’s SOME. But there could be a lot more if they stop remaking everything.
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Okay but, hear me out, could there?
Or is the remake engine an important part of keeping the genre thriving?
shame about the rest of the film and the franchise since then
Of course a shill for Big Spooky would tell us that
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Horror film from the perspective of ghosts, who are just trying to live their life after death, and humans come in and fucking murder them because they are terrified by the mere existence of the ghosts.
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that's just The Others + Ghostbusters!
So a slightly more aggressive Beetlejuice
s'poopy.
I believe Tony Shaloub established there are 13 ghosts
I have nothing specifically against remakes. Just feels like they keep remaking the remakes these days.
And I won't pretend to understand any sort of Hollywood accounting, but if your production company gets investors or box office numbers or whatever based on their newest remake of a classic horror franchise, then they will have that money to potentially fund additional movies - maybe those will also be remakes, but maybe they will be new and original IPs.
Similarly for directors, who might be trusted more with their original vision (or trusted with more of the money that they need to make their original vision) after they do a good job of remaking a big familiar property.
He was just building on Vincent van Ghoul's work though
yeah, that's totally Beetlejuice.
It makes sense. You need to have the sure fire easy money makers so you can make the risky original pieces.
Also, people who think there aren't original horror ideas aren't paying attention to horror. This is a thrilling time to be a fan.
2014: Babadook; A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night; It Follows; Under the Skin
2015: Crimson Peak; The Witch; Ex Machina; We Are Still Here
2016: Train to Busan; Raw; Ouija Origin of Evil; Hush; The Eyes of My Mother; Antibirth; Autopsy of Jane Doe; Lights Out; The Love Witch; 10 Cloverfield Lane
2017: Annabelle Creation; Get Out; Happy Death Day; Killing of a Sacred Deer; Cult of Chucky; mother!
2018: Annihilation; Suspiria 2018; The First Purge; Halloween 2018; Hereditary; In Fabric; Climax; Upgrade; Unsane; Summer of 84
2019: Midsommar; Ready or Not; The Lighthouse; Doctor Sleep; Happy Death Day 2U; The Perfection; Bliss; Crawl; Color out of Space; Us; One Cut of the Dead
This year so far: The Invisible Man; She Dies Tomorrow; The Assistant; The Lodge; Relic; Host; Horse Girl; Vivarium; The Other Lamb; Bit
Even the years that didn't have much like 2014 and 2015, what we got was so good the quality more than made up for the output. And from 2018 on it feels like we've gotten a more-than-healthy amount of both. 55 films that I remembered, saw, and felt were worth listing as my immediate highlights from the period, and only ten are remakes and/or sequels
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It's a shame that this entire post has to be disregarded because it left out One Cut of the Dead.
Action!