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    Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    As protests continue in Portland after deadly clash, 2 sheriffs say they're not sending deputies to help

    Though Portland protesters are growing smaller in number, a deadly clash over the weekend prompted Oregon's governor to call on outside law enforcement agencies to rein in demonstrations. Two Portland-area sheriff's departments said Monday that they will not deploy deputies.

    Despite Gov. Kate Brown's announcement on Sunday that three neighboring law enforcement jurisdictions and Oregon State Police would help the Portland Police Bureau respond to the protests, the Clackamas County and Washington County Sheriff's Offices said Monday they will not send deputies due to what they said were policy disagreements and a lack of political support from Portland officials for law enforcement.

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    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    remember the story a week or so ago where police in colorado had some medics shoot a dude up with ketamine for no reason and killed him?

    well that shit ain't an Isolated Incident, if you can believe it

    this other dude made it out okay, despite the fact that he was passed out drunk when the cops called him and mixing booze and ketamine is dangerous as hell, but it did land him in the ICU for a couple days

    i'm looking forward to somebody proposing a law banning police from holding people down while medical people drug them against their will for no other reason than "the fuck you gonna do about it." it also seems to me like the medical people definitely get some share of the blame in this shit too
    It is scarily common to just put a person in crisis in a k-hole. I brought it up with a paramedic friend and they didn't even seem to care about the ethical ramifications. I found it disgusting.

    that is just so fucked up

    i've never done the stuff myself but i used to hang out with some folks who did semi-regularly. i'm ambivalent about people willingly subjecting themselves to that shit, to say nothing of just doping people up rather than dealing with whatever's actually wrong with them

    like okay i'm not a medical professional so maybe i don't get to have a say in shit like this, but jesus
    unfortunately neither are EMTs and paramedics
    they aren't qualified to administer ketamine or rather shouldn't be qualified to administer anesthetics that have risk of death in the field

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited September 2020
    you're hella right about the north vs south thing. we have no hope until we can stop framing it like the benighted hill people in the south are doing all the racism while we enlightenedly tut tut at them, meanwhile last i heard the north was still more segregated than the south

    It is a serious issue with the education (both formalized and non) that you receive in the area.

    I spent a long time talking about my partner (who is from a similar sort of upper middle liberal town in New Jersey) about it last weekend.

    And we both had the experience that we learned about some of our country's nastier history. Not all of it, of course, and not necessarily in school in the way that you think about learning about such things. But the way that we learned about such things were presented in a way that... well, quite honestly, it was presented in the way that world history was.

    For an example, sundown towns - overall small and specific, and it was something that both of us learned at some point - I believe it may have been in school for me, but my range there broadens a bit as a history major. They are something that, from that Northeastern education, we learned was a part of our history, but they were also something that were implicitly a Southern problem. Whether or not that implication was taught (by teachers strictly using examples that were located in the South, for instance) or something that we both just picked up from all of our regional background radiation, I'm not entirely sure, but I don't think it's a particularly uncommon problem regardless. This was something that happened elsewhere, either because racism just happens elsewhere, or because yes, individual peoples might still be racist in the Northeast (and boy howdy, they are), but it's not as much of an institutional thing.

    And like, all of that is wrong. I'm glad I knew about sundown towns or whatever the hell else, but there's so much of it that I learned in a way that was not accurate to the way the world actually works, and I'm not sure sometimes if that is actually better, y'know? That slanted view of history, that idea that the rest of the country is effectively a foreign nation with foreign nation problems that you might visit but don't actually exist in, that's all very not good!

    Straightzi on
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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Extremely enraging and also totally unsurprising.

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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    As a career firefighter in the Northeast (and generally I think this applies all over the US) there's a rough hierarchy in the civil/emergency services and top to bottom it kind of goes:

    Police/Fire: in locales where both services are paid they make the same money and have the same "prestige" amongst the people looking for these jobs. Fire is typically only paid fully in cities so in most places police officer is the "top" jobs. Fuck cops.

    EMT/Paramedic - Not paid in a ton of places, occasionally paramedics are also firefighters, both of these jobs are typically paid less and in most cases you work for a private entity. Usually a stepping stone for people looking to move up a tier. The nicest thing I can say for sure about these folks is that the medics at least graduated high school and the EMTs graduated grade school. Medics oscillate between good people and people with god complexes. Both of these groups should be paid more like nurses should be paid more.

    Corrections officers- I have met/work with many former corrections officers. People who get out of this job - might/likely - will be assholes. People who flourish in this job are fucking nightmares. The standards are abysmal even in places where the pay is good. This is where people who are too stupid to become cops end up. People who are too stupid to become corrections officers don't exist, they're just not persistent enough.

    It's a job that combines everything bad about police work with everything that's bad about being an orderly in a mental health facility. The only people who stay are those that can't find better work and those who indulge in the ample opportunities for brutality. Every story I've heard from a CO is an awful problem with a societally damning resolution.

    With all that being said a lot of police and fire usually are cut from the same cloth when it comes to socioeconomic background. They're usually from multigenerational families, they grow up in the same neighborhoods and associate with families who are the same. In a lot of towns it'll come down to kids in these families taking both tests and just going with which one offers a job first.

    Everyone else on that spectrum just kind of looks upward trying to get to the top.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Prison guards and military police are consistently the worst fucking people a given society can produce

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Prison guards and military police are consistently the worst fucking people a given society can produce

    Tobacco company lawyers and lobbyists.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Having worked in two different prisons, can confirm that.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Prison guards and military police are consistently the worst fucking people a given society can produce

    Tobacco company lawyers and lobbyists.

    I've never had enough money to meet anyone like that

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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Prison guards and military police are consistently the worst fucking people a given society can produce

    Like I said, anyone with a soul gets out.

    People who tell you they love the job should not be trusted.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Y'all, don't worry, the NFL's got this


    NFL will write "End racism" and "It takes all of us" in end zones.

    Not only is this hilariously pathetic, it's coming from a league that had a slur for a team name until THIS SUMMER

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Y'all, don't worry, the NFL's got this


    NFL will write "End racism" and "It takes all of us" in end zones.

    Not only is this hilariously pathetic, it's coming from a league that had a slur for a team name until THIS SUMMER

    Also that blacklisted Kaepernick

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    RedTide wrote: »
    The nicest thing I can say for sure about these folks is that the medics at least graduated high school and the EMTs graduated grade school.

    hey, using someone's lack of higher education as an insult is pretty fuckin gross

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Imagining the guy who's gonna go out and do a racism, but real quick he's gonna turn on the TV and check out how the Dolphins are playing. And then, what's that? Down at the end of the field? "End... Racism?"

    And the man sits down. Slips off his racism clogs. Lets a single tear roll down his face.

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    Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    Y'all, don't worry, the NFL's got this


    NFL will write "End racism" and "It takes all of us" in end zones.

    Not only is this hilariously pathetic, it's coming from a league that had a slur for a team name until THIS SUMMER

    Also that blacklisted Kaepernick

    oh cool, now that racism is settled maybe we can get cracking on something else

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    A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Y'all, don't worry, the NFL's got this


    NFL will write "End racism" and "It takes all of us" in end zones.

    Not only is this hilariously pathetic, it's coming from a league that had a slur for a team name until THIS SUMMER

    Also that blacklisted Kaepernick

    oh cool, now that racism is settled maybe we can get cracking on something else

    The commish said that maybe they should have listened to Kaepernick a few weeks ago, so it's all water under the bridge. NFL is settling all kinds of long-standing disputes recently, it's amazing.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2020
    I have some bad news about the discourse you're going to be enjoying for the next week or so
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    Official yard signs! In MY videogames!

    Coinage on
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Wasn't it AOC who was playing Animal Crossing back when it released?

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    I have some bad news about the discourse you're going to be enjoying for the next week or so
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    Official yard signs! In MY videogames!

    https://youtu.be/s8vfui3OljY

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Biden advertising on Animal Crossing is perfect because it'll pick up all those votes from kids who hadn't heard his name before and absolutely zer
    Coinage wrote: »
    I have some bad news about the discourse you're going to be enjoying for the next week or so
    H8euHVG.jpg
    Official yard signs! In MY videogames!

    I love this because it implies to me that the Biden campaign thinks the antipathy younger voters have with the campaign comes from the way its being advertised and not the thing being advertised. Its just so misguided.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Oh god jesus christ what is that

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2020
    the only politician who can be rendered as a twee homunculus without causing some heavy uncanny valley brain poisoning is Pete Buttigieg

    tynic on
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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Oh god jesus christ what is that

    A mistake

    Children's rights are human rights.
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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited September 2020
    Oh hey it’s this year’s Pokémon go to the polls

    They really are intent in making every single mistake of 2016 aren’t they?

    rhylith on
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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    "The problem with 2016 is that we didn't 2016 hard enough" <-- dem strategists, presumably.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    I have some bad news about the discourse you're going to be enjoying for the next week or so
    H8euHVG.jpg
    Official yard signs! In MY videogames!

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    "The problem with 2016 is that we didn't 2016 hard enough" <-- dem strategists, presumably.

    And it's like I guess so you know like same thing but harder does have precedent a harder kick might get the dead dog past the line

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    the ironic thing about "pokemon go to the polls" is that it sounded insincere as fuck but by all accounts Hilary was a huge pokeman fan

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I would gladly go back to 2016 right now.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    the ironic thing about "pokemon go to the polls" is that it sounded insincere as fuck but by all accounts Hilary was a huge pokeman fan

    Sincerely insincere is a good summary of the DNC

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Can Pokemon even vote? They're animals.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    Can Pokemon even vote? They're animals.

    Many pokemon are sentient and more intelligent than supercomputers.

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    Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Oh hey it’s this year’s Pokémon go to the polls

    They really are intent in making every single mistake of 2016 aren’t they?

    they didn't make any mistakes in 2016, the election was stolen from them by russian meddlers and bernie bros

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    UrsusUrsus Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Oh hey it’s this year’s Pokémon go to the polls

    They really are intent in making every single mistake of 2016 aren’t they?

    they didn't make any mistakes in 2016, the election was stolen from them by russian meddlers and bernie bros

    The same Bernie Bros that are not numerous enough to matter in elections and should therefore be ignored.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    The Magicians established the talking animals should be able to vote

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    LabelLabel Registered User regular
    Honestly as long as there's not significant opportunity cost to "yard signs" in a video game (and with a budget in the hundreds of million I doubt it) then I don't really give a shit if the Biden campaign does this.

    So long as it's not all they're doing.

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    mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Oh hey it’s this year’s Pokémon go to the polls

    They really are intent in making every single mistake of 2016 aren’t they?

    they didn't make any mistakes in 2016, the election was stolen from them by russian meddlers and bernie bros

    Read all about it in Joe Biden's 2022 bestseller, "Well, It Definitely Wasn't *My* Fault: What Happened, Part Two", assuming America still has bookstores by then

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Label wrote: »
    Honestly as long as there's not significant opportunity cost to "yard signs" in a video game (and with a budget in the hundreds of million I doubt it) then I don't really give a shit if the Biden campaign does this.

    So long as it's not all they're doing.

    there's basically zero cost to this, it's not even a promotion through nintendo, they're just posting QR codes for the designs that you can load into your game

    it probably took all of 5 minutes for an intern to run the images through one of the sites that auto-generates an AC pattern for you

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