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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    yeah they discovered them deep in SR-388, but also accidentally gave them the means to spread across the planet and potentially get off the planet and had to make metroids as an emergency measure to stop them.

    but then metroids also became a problem

    I had thought they had the metroids mostly under control... up until Mother Brain went rogue.

    Well. No. They had Zebes under control. Mother Brain had nothing to do with SR-388.

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Chozo are definitely that brand of mad science where if the laws of physics won’t allow it, why, they’ll just run the polarity through this parallel dimension full of relatively harmless entities using the power of an unstable star close to super nova. Don’t worry! They’ll stabilise the star by siphoning the energy from another, even less stable star.

    Sometimes they will offer you a nice, juicy powerup orb in the hands of a statue. But then when you grab it, the statue stands up and punches you right in the gut. This violates the intergalactic "No Take Backs" treaty.

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    So the Chozo are the Salarians, unleashing the plague that is the Krogans (metroids) on the universe in order to solve a more existential threat in the rachnai (X parasites)?

    I didn’t play that series but yes, that sound like things.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    god I hope they don't overexplain the chozo
    let cool mysterious precursors stay mysterious challenge 2021

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
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    Basically.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    god I hope they don't overexplain the chozo
    let cool mysterious precursors stay mysterious challenge 2021

    T H E B A B Y

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
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    Basically.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    like the whole reason they turned to spirituality and away from super advanced technology is that like, chozo solutions are incredibly dangerous.

    It takes a person with the strength of character of Samus to use them responsibly.

    "Responsibly" may or may not still include destruction of several planets and at least one alternate dimension. Which, considering she's a single individual, makes you wonder about the Chozo...

    that dimension pulled a gun on samus, she was well within her rights as an unlicensed walking army of one

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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    like the whole reason they turned to spirituality and away from super advanced technology is that like, chozo solutions are incredibly dangerous.

    It takes a person with the strength of character of Samus to use them responsibly.

    "Responsibly" may or may not still include destruction of several planets and at least one alternate dimension. Which, considering she's a single individual, makes you wonder about the Chozo...

    that dimension pulled a gun on samus, she was well within her rights as an unlicensed walking army of one

    No, she's licensed.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Gundi wrote: »
    like the whole reason they turned to spirituality and away from super advanced technology is that like, chozo solutions are incredibly dangerous.

    It takes a person with the strength of character of Samus to use them responsibly.

    "Responsibly" may or may not still include destruction of several planets and at least one alternate dimension. Which, considering she's a single individual, makes you wonder about the Chozo...

    TBF only two of those planet explosions was her fault and that dimension was basically actually hell.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    TBH I've kinda lost track as to what sort of destruction happened during the Prime games

    In the mainline series, the only planetary explosion she's really at fault for is SR388. Zebes was just Mother Brain being a sore loser. Twice.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Prime 1: Planet remained intact. The impact crater collapsed when she took out the Metroid Prime.

    Prime 2: Dark Aether dimension collapsed when she took all the light energy out of it and back to Original Recipe Aether. That was gonna happen one way or another, considering the Ing war happening.

    Prime 3: Most planets in the game survived, but Phaaze was super destroyed in order to take out the Phazon threat. One of the planets got a nuke dropped on it to break an energy barrier, but apparently it's otherwise fine.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Prime 1: Planet remained intact. The impact crater collapsed when she took out the Metroid Prime.

    Prime 2: Dark Aether dimension collapsed when she took all the light energy out of it and back to Original Recipe Aether. That was gonna happen one way or another, considering the Ing war happening.

    Prime 3: Most planets in the game survived, but Phaaze was super destroyed in order to take out the Phazon threat. One of the planets got a nuke dropped on it to break an energy barrier, but apparently it's otherwise fine.

    That was also the Space Pirate homeworld so who cares

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Prime 1: Planet remained intact. The impact crater collapsed when she took out the Metroid Prime.

    Prime 2: Dark Aether dimension collapsed when she took all the light energy out of it and back to Original Recipe Aether. That was gonna happen one way or another, considering the Ing war happening.

    Prime 3: Most planets in the game survived, but Phaaze was super destroyed in order to take out the Phazon threat. One of the planets got a nuke dropped on it to break an energy barrier, but apparently it's otherwise fine.

    That was also the Space Pirate homeworld so who cares

    I thought that was the sky city robot world, since Samus couldn’t get into the barrier around the Leviathan otherwise.

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    NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    god I hope they don't overexplain the chozo
    let cool mysterious precursors stay mysterious challenge 2021

    the Metroid Prime Chozo are the cool mysterious precursors that ascended to a higher plane of existence but turned into mad phazon-corrupted ghosts

    the Zebes Chozo are like... Samus' birdman parents
    they're not even dead or anything (excluding some that died for narrative reasons in spinoff comics, RIP Gray Voice), they just went into hiding what with the whole "hunted by invading space pirates" thing
    I'm pretty sure Old Bird is still alive, at least, and he's basically the Bird Dad

    and the Samus Returns ones are the cruelly betrayed Jurassic Park scientists, as mentioned

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I thought they converted themselves into beings of pure energy

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    The Tallon IV Chozo did. Then the phazon corruption got them even in that form.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2021
    I could have sworn that was their backstory even before the prime games but perhaps I am simply remembering my extrapolation of the lore in the prime games to the rest of the series

    like there's gotta be SOME reason the galaxy used to be ruled by the super advanced bird people and now they're seemingly all gone, and they have been gone long enough to mainly be known as legends among the current galactic civilizations, with only ruins left behind

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2021
    I could have sworn that was their backstory even before the prime games but perhaps I am simply remembering my extrapolation of the lore in the prime games to the rest of the series

    like there's gotta be SOME reason the galaxy used to be ruled by the super advanced bird people and now they're seemingly all gone, and they have been gone long enough to mainly be known as legends among the current galactic civilizations

    There is a possibly canon backstory manga.

    Basically, IIRC, they renounced war so Mother Brain had no problem slaughtering them all with the space pirates.

    This is the same comic where Ridley…eats Samus’ parents.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Enlong wrote: »
    The Tallon IV Chozo did. Then the phazon corruption got them even in that form.

    I think some of them are fine. Maybe all of them once Phaze blows up?

    You can get updates on Talon IV and Aether in the observatory in Sky City in MP3 saying both planets are almost back to normal, and that's before Phaze pops.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    I could have sworn that was their backstory even before the prime games but perhaps I am simply remembering my extrapolation of the lore in the prime games to the rest of the series

    like there's gotta be SOME reason the galaxy used to be ruled by the super advanced bird people and now they're seemingly all gone, and they have been gone long enough to mainly be known as legends among the current galactic civilizations

    There is a possibly canon backstory manga.

    Basically, IIRC, they renounced war so Mother Brain had no problem slaughtering them all with the space pirates.

    This is the same comic where Ridley…eats Samus’ parents.

    The general feel I always got was that the Chozo had been like a Mega Empire back in the day off the back of being like four technological revolutions above everyone else, but eventually went "guys. Guys what the fuck are we doing", so they renounced war and fucked off to live in remote enclaves in harmony with the universe and stuff, rather than break the galaxy. And that by the time Metroid the games happen, almost all these enclaves are gone, due to simple time or to getting wiped out by various assholes or to ascending to a higher plane or whatever, so Samus might very well be the last of the Chozo.

    Which would indeed present her whole crusade to destroy the metroids before evil pirates can use them for bad things in a rather cool light. Because if the Chozo made these, and she's the last Chozo, well, she's the only one left to take responsibility here.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    speaking of metroid, here's the latest trailer. it has big spoilers but it is spitting hot fire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_XnbTayTH4

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Drascin wrote: »
    I could have sworn that was their backstory even before the prime games but perhaps I am simply remembering my extrapolation of the lore in the prime games to the rest of the series

    like there's gotta be SOME reason the galaxy used to be ruled by the super advanced bird people and now they're seemingly all gone, and they have been gone long enough to mainly be known as legends among the current galactic civilizations

    There is a possibly canon backstory manga.

    Basically, IIRC, they renounced war so Mother Brain had no problem slaughtering them all with the space pirates.

    This is the same comic where Ridley…eats Samus’ parents.

    The general feel I always got was that the Chozo had been like a Mega Empire back in the day off the back of being like four technological revolutions above everyone else, but eventually went "guys. Guys what the fuck are we doing", so they renounced war and fucked off to live in remote enclaves in harmony with the universe and stuff, rather than break the galaxy. And that by the time Metroid the games happen, almost all these enclaves are gone, due to simple time or to getting wiped out by various assholes or to ascending to a higher plane or whatever, so Samus might very well be the last of the Chozo.

    Which would indeed present her whole crusade to destroy the metroids before evil pirates can use them for bad things in a rather cool light. Because if the Chozo made these, and she's the last Chozo, well, she's the only one left to take responsibility here.

    Makes you wonder if she knew the Metroids origins beforehand. She clearly didn’t know about the X, but maybe she knew that the Metroids were a Chozo creation.

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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost This is also my fault Registered User regular
    Are the Space Pirates an organization? Are they a species? Is every Space Pirate born destined to try to make the galaxy a bad place?

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Are the Space Pirates an organization? Are they a species? Is every Space Pirate born destined to try to make the galaxy a bad place?

    I haven't played MP3 all the way through, but it feels like they are a species, or collection of species.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Do space pirates get offended when you call them pirates?

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    New Metroid trailer, spoilering just in case.
    That missile swarm attack is super cool.

    It's not 100% clear to me if that's supposed to be a real live Chozo or something like the Chozo statues you fight in Super Metroid. Maybe the main one in the cutscene bits is live and the other ones seen fighting in gameplay clips are statues.

    Kraid is back and he sure is as big as ever!

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    thats a good trailer

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Nintendo also posted a text post to go along with the trailer. It mostly just lists out the things visible in the trailer, but I had missed at least one of them being a new thing.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Are the Space Pirates an organization? Are they a species? Is every Space Pirate born destined to try to make the galaxy a bad place?

    I haven't played MP3 all the way through, but it feels like they are a species, or collection of species.

    Prime implies they are an organization. Other M implies at least some are a hive mind controlled by mother brain

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    Nintendo also posted a text post to go along with the trailer. It mostly just lists out the things visible in the trailer, but I had missed at least one of them being a new thing.
    I love how similar the Chozo Warrior's suit looks to Samus'.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Are the Space Pirates an organization? Are they a species? Is every Space Pirate born destined to try to make the galaxy a bad place?

    I haven't played MP3 all the way through, but it feels like they are a species, or collection of species.

    Prime implies they are an organization. Other M implies at least some are a hive mind controlled by mother brain

    While super annoying, best to assume anything from the Prime trilogy will be treated as non-canon.

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    I got one of those Mario Game & Watch. It has a shockingly good screen for something so small.

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    Are the Space Pirates an organization? Are they a species? Is every Space Pirate born destined to try to make the galaxy a bad place?

    I haven't played MP3 all the way through, but it feels like they are a species, or collection of species.

    Prime implies they are an organization. Other M implies at least some are a hive mind controlled by mother brain

    While super annoying, best to assume anything from the Prime trilogy will be treated as non-canon.

    I think treating everything as equally non-canon post-Super Metroid is the only fair thing.

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    Are the Space Pirates an organization? Are they a species? Is every Space Pirate born destined to try to make the galaxy a bad place?

    I haven't played MP3 all the way through, but it feels like they are a species, or collection of species.

    Prime implies they are an organization. Other M implies at least some are a hive mind controlled by mother brain

    While super annoying, best to assume anything from the Prime trilogy will be treated as non-canon.

    Samus Returns at the very least treated
    the Meta Ridley stuff as canon.

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    All is canon
    Nothing is canon

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    All is canon
    Nothing is canon

    Arm is cannon

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    now we're talkin'

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    Can't wait to play this new game about the lady robot and her chorizo alien friends

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    The thing I’m looking forward to is the new voice of Samus as leaked by my uncle, which is that her voice actress is from Belfast. I’ve tried to turn this post into a funny bit twice now but I would actually just like any video game character to be Northern Irish.

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