Hmmmm. Dual blades is calling to me because they can also be the lord of the skies like insect glaive can.
I made the Qornu Waga, because they're dope looking. I want to make either the Altair or Sworn Rapiers, but since Guild Tickets are limited right now, I'm taking opinions.
Any thoughts?
i've been rocking the narga blades along with his full set and i feel like i'm in the matrix, it's pretty ridiculous
narga blades especially have white sharpness and 40% affinity, it's almost not fair
Hmmmm. Dual blades is calling to me because they can also be the lord of the skies like insect glaive can.
I made the Qornu Waga, because they're dope looking. I want to make either the Altair or Sworn Rapiers, but since Guild Tickets are limited right now, I'm taking opinions.
Any thoughts?
i've been rocking the narga blades along with his full set and i feel like i'm in the matrix, it's pretty ridiculous
narga blades especially have white sharpness and 40% affinity, it's almost not fair
I've been running Narga duals with a set that has Weakness Exploit 3, Earplugs 4, and Razor Sharp 3 (among other skills). Crits for DAYZ, it doesn't stop for roars, and the White sharpness lasts a ridiculous length of time.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Huh. I don't remember this being a thing, but I don't recall getting hit by Rathian's Tailflip after cutting her tail in World. In all other Monster Hunters, she continues to poison you with the tail flip after a tail cut. Supposedly, lore-wise, the different variants of Rathians from different regions have different spike patterns which explain the differences, I guess.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Huh. I don't remember this being a thing, but I don't recall getting hit by Rathian's Tailflip after cutting her tail in World. In all other Monster Hunters, she continues to poison you with the tail flip after a tail cut. Supposedly, lore-wise, the different variants of Rathians from different regions have different spike patterns which explain the differences, I guess.
Okay, maybe this is because this rathian doesn't fly as high, as I didn't get hit in World. But as I am a musical bonker, I don't cut tails that often.
Speaking of which, I am ecstatic to see so many Hunting Horns out. Nearly every group seems to have one.
Oh shoot. I didn't realize it from the demo, but it looks like Rise significantly weakened the damage of the SnS shieldfall out of backhop jump slash. You need to complete a Perfect Rush or burn a wirebug to get the full damage. That might completely kill this weapon for me. I absolutely hate how the Perfect Rush feels, so if that's where the design is headed then it's probably time to move on. If I thought a monster was going to let me stand stock-still for five straight seconds I'd have brought a Charge Blade.
Maybe I'll relearn Insect Glaive instead for my mobility weapon. Or give aerial Dual Blades a try and see if that does anything for me (I have doubts on that one).
Oh shoot. I didn't realize it from the demo, but it looks like Rise significantly weakened the damage of the SnS shieldfall out of backhop jump slash. You need to complete a Perfect Rush or burn a wirebug to get the full damage. That might completely kill this weapon for me. I absolutely hate how the Perfect Rush feels, so if that's where the design is headed then it's probably time to move on. If I thought a monster was going to let me stand stock-still for five straight seconds I'd have brought a Charge Blade.
Maybe I'll relearn Insect Glaive instead for my mobility weapon. Or give aerial Dual Blades a try and see if that does anything for me (I have doubts on that one).
SnS is actually completely revitalized for me because of the Drill Slash. It lays in the pain very quickly, and you can follow up with X+A for a round slash for a big hit, followed by a roll to reposition. I usually approach with the slide attack, combo into some slashes, then go into Drill Slash.
Yeah it feels like in this rathian loses her tail but she can't still inexplicably hit you like its still attached (like the range seems like its not diminished) could very much be a bug.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
It's the constant running back and forth just.... just stop please
I mean, she can only do it up to three times in a row. You dodge the first two, then chase after her on the third. Or first one, if she only does two. There's a tell for it.
EDIT: I've yet to see her do the double tail flip, which is the bane of greedy Hunters everywhere.
It's the constant running back and forth just.... just stop please
I mean, she can only do it up to three times in a row. You dodge the first two, then chase after her on the third. Or first one, if she only does two. There's a tell for it.
EDIT: I've yet to see her do the double tail flip, which is the bane of greedy Hunters everywhere.
She does it while enraged specifically. She'll do flip, aerial reposition, flip again, land.
It's the constant running back and forth just.... just stop please
I mean, she can only do it up to three times in a row. You dodge the first two, then chase after her on the third. Or first one, if she only does two. There's a tell for it.
EDIT: I've yet to see her do the double tail flip, which is the bane of greedy Hunters everywhere.
She does it while enraged specifically. She'll do flip, aerial reposition, flip again, land.
No, that's not what I'm talking about. That one's easy to dodge. The double tail flip is where she'll flip, then immediately flip again, which punishes people who try to attack her after the first flip.
It's the constant running back and forth just.... just stop please
I mean, she can only do it up to three times in a row. You dodge the first two, then chase after her on the third. Or first one, if she only does two. There's a tell for it.
EDIT: I've yet to see her do the double tail flip, which is the bane of greedy Hunters everywhere.
It's not difficult and I don't get hit by it but it's like, for the love of god just stand still so I can kill you
I'm really itching to try aerial dual blades, but I can't settle on the switch skill combination
I'm very keen on both roundslash and the piercing bind, but I have to give either one (or both!) up for the ability to attack on titan monsters!!!
Tower Vault doesn't seem worth it to me, as you can just sheathe, do a normal Wirebug vertical, and activate any attacks that you would have on the draw. I run with Feral Demon Mode and Demon Flight, but keep Piercing Bind.
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*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
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Fuck, looks like I'm gonna need to grind it out with Lance
I've bounced off of everything else I've tried for several hours. I think I just really really need to get my guard skills from outside armor pieces, I think, because most of them are kind of shit.
If I could get a 3 Guard and 3 Guard Up with a 3 deco slot talisman I'd be set.
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I'm really itching to try aerial dual blades, but I can't settle on the switch skill combination
I'm very keen on both roundslash and the piercing bind, but I have to give either one (or both!) up for the ability to attack on titan monsters!!!
Tower Vault doesn't seem worth it to me, as you can just sheathe, do a normal Wirebug vertical, and activate any attacks that you would have on the draw. I run with Feral Demon Mode and Demon Flight, but keep Piercing Bind.
Yeah, with the jump on attack option there, Tower Vault just seems redundant.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
I'm really itching to try aerial dual blades, but I can't settle on the switch skill combination
I'm very keen on both roundslash and the piercing bind, but I have to give either one (or both!) up for the ability to attack on titan monsters!!!
Tower Vault doesn't seem worth it to me, as you can just sheathe, do a normal Wirebug vertical, and activate any attacks that you would have on the draw. I run with Feral Demon Mode and Demon Flight, but keep Piercing Bind.
Hmmm. Okay, that helps. I am really reliant on the flurry rush for positioning, so I need to figure out how to play around with this.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
Nah, you can be way out of range of the talons and still get poisoned. Only Rathalos has venomous talons.
Maybe the whole underside of the tail is lined with small venomous barbs, but the sides and top aren't? That's the most consistent explanation I can think of.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
Nah, you can be way out of range of the talons and still get poisoned. Only Rathalos has venomous talons.
Maybe the whole underside of the tail is lined with small venomous barbs, but the sides and top aren't? That's the most consistent explanation I can think of.
I think they may have coded hitboxes in Rise in such a way that removing the tail isn't actually removing the collision zone.
I'm really itching to try aerial dual blades, but I can't settle on the switch skill combination
I'm very keen on both roundslash and the piercing bind, but I have to give either one (or both!) up for the ability to attack on titan monsters!!!
Tower Vault doesn't seem worth it to me, as you can just sheathe, do a normal Wirebug vertical, and activate any attacks that you would have on the draw. I run with Feral Demon Mode and Demon Flight, but keep Piercing Bind.
Hmmm. Okay, that helps. I am really reliant on the flurry rush for positioning, so I need to figure out how to play around with this.
i can't explain exactly how i adapted my playstyle, but i'm running the same setup as Hahnsoo and i haven't really had any major issues with positioning
part of that certainly has to do with having full evade extender, i'm sure
I'm really itching to try aerial dual blades, but I can't settle on the switch skill combination
I'm very keen on both roundslash and the piercing bind, but I have to give either one (or both!) up for the ability to attack on titan monsters!!!
Tower Vault doesn't seem worth it to me, as you can just sheathe, do a normal Wirebug vertical, and activate any attacks that you would have on the draw. I run with Feral Demon Mode and Demon Flight, but keep Piercing Bind.
Hmmm. Okay, that helps. I am really reliant on the flurry rush for positioning, so I need to figure out how to play around with this.
i can't explain exactly how i adapted my playstyle, but i'm running the same setup as Hahnsoo and i haven't really had any major issues with positioning
part of that certainly has to do with having full evade extender, i'm sure
Yeah, I'll have to play around just using dashes. I'm just muscle-memorying flurry rush to get closer and reposition. We will see! I do have a full evade extender set, so I'll try it tonight.
Is there much point in having elements or status effects on big weapons like the greatsword? I guess that's why GS tends to have higher elemental damage numbers
Is there much point in having elements or status effects on big weapons like the greatsword? I guess that's why GS tends to have higher elemental damage numbers
Usually, there's some way for all weapons to inflict status or element better (like, for a while, GS charges amplified Elemental damage in some versions of MH), but the big, slow ones still aren't great at it. Hammer at least has the spinning attacks to lay down many hits in a short period of time. SwAxe has a few attacks that are tailor-made for delivering status and element. GS has always been the realm of "Raw damage is king".
That being said, there are Greatswords in some of the games that look like giant swordfish that inflict Ice Element and GS that look like cats that inflict Para, and I'm here for it.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
The real question is, why does getting hit by the tail spin 100% of the time inflict poison? Usually that stuff has to get into the blood stream somehow. You're telling me regardless of quality of armor, every single tail spin that connects penetrates through the armor to poison the hunter instantly? You're never just kind of bludgeoned away by a glancing blow?
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Yian Garuga used to do this to me all the time and it was always irritating.
EDIT: Re: Duals skills, not only is Tower Vault unnecessary, but I am super reliant on Piercing Bind for part breaks/tail cuts. My general offense is... all over the place, literally.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
The real question is, why does getting hit by the tail spin 100% of the time inflict poison? Usually that stuff has to get into the blood stream somehow. You're telling me regardless of quality of armor, every single tail spin that connects penetrates through the armor to poison the hunter instantly? You're never just kind of bludgeoned away by a glancing blow?
I guess I just assumed that the fact that every fucking piece of armor I can craft includes prominently exposed thighs probably had something to do with it.
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*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
The real question is, why does getting hit by the tail spin 100% of the time inflict poison? Usually that stuff has to get into the blood stream somehow. You're telling me regardless of quality of armor, every single tail spin that connects penetrates through the armor to poison the hunter instantly? You're never just kind of bludgeoned away by a glancing blow?
I mean maybe the poison sac is still there in the tail somewhere and it's now just leaking all over the place. Just because I can't deliver the poison into you with a hypodermic needle doesn't mean you won't get poisoned if you get slathered in it from it's poisonous tail stump.
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BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
Relevant to the Dual Blades conversation, I made a sheet to track which dual blades are the best in each element (and raw). This assume you have handicraft, but has no other assumption for skills. Most surprising thing of note, in the Raw category, Narga DB aren't actually the best, unless you have Critical Boost (unless thats not in the game yet).
At some point I'll probably add additional weapons to the list, or if you want to make a copy and do it yourself, it should do the math for you (the math being just a straight sharpness modifier, I didn't get too deep into all the different skills, like crit ele or ele boost).
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Relevant to the Dual Blades conversation, I made a sheet to track which dual blades are the best in each element (and raw). This assume you have handicraft, but has no other assumption for skills. Most surprising thing of note, in the Raw category, Narga DB aren't actually the best, unless you have Critical Boost (unless thats not in the game yet).
At some point I'll probably add additional weapons to the list, or if you want to make a copy and do it yourself, it should do the math for you (the math being just a straight sharpness modifier, I didn't get too deep into all the different skills, like crit ele or ele boost).
"Assuming Handicraft" is a big ask, though, considering there are only two armor pieces with it (for a total of 3 points), and the Gloves slot for Handicraft conflicts with 3 points of Attack Boost from Rath gloves. You can get it on Talismans, but that eats the Talisman slot.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
The real question is, why does getting hit by the tail spin 100% of the time inflict poison? Usually that stuff has to get into the blood stream somehow. You're telling me regardless of quality of armor, every single tail spin that connects penetrates through the armor to poison the hunter instantly? You're never just kind of bludgeoned away by a glancing blow?
I guess I just assumed that the fact that every fucking piece of armor I can craft includes prominently exposed thighs probably had something to do with it.
*Fights a Rathian, keeps getting poisoned by tail*
Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
The real question is, why does getting hit by the tail spin 100% of the time inflict poison? Usually that stuff has to get into the blood stream somehow. You're telling me regardless of quality of armor, every single tail spin that connects penetrates through the armor to poison the hunter instantly? You're never just kind of bludgeoned away by a glancing blow?
I guess I just assumed that the fact that every fucking piece of armor I can craft includes prominently exposed thighs probably had something to do with it.
It's not for sexy reasons it's because ladies are sensitive to inner thigh chafing when wearing mythical monster based armors. If they didn't expose the thighs, you'd just be complaining about all the time spent gratuitously rubbing ointment on their thighs.
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i've been rocking the narga blades along with his full set and i feel like i'm in the matrix, it's pretty ridiculous
narga blades especially have white sharpness and 40% affinity, it's almost not fair
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Okay, so all I have to do is cut the tail, no more poison! Just like in World!
*Cuts tail, but still get poisoned by Rathian's stumpy tail*
Wait...what?
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Dear Satan.....
this is definitely true, but i'm doing so much raw damage i almost don't miss the elemental stuff
i can't say if i'm actually doing more damage than i would be with something else, but it feels good and sometimes that's all that matters in MH
Pukei Pukei is the best example of this one. Cut off the poison tube? Poison just sprays everywhere like diarhea.
Okay, maybe this is because this rathian doesn't fly as high, as I didn't get hit in World. But as I am a musical bonker, I don't cut tails that often.
Speaking of which, I am ecstatic to see so many Hunting Horns out. Nearly every group seems to have one.
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Dear Satan.....
Maybe I'll relearn Insect Glaive instead for my mobility weapon. Or give aerial Dual Blades a try and see if that does anything for me (I have doubts on that one).
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It's the constant running back and forth just.... just stop please
EDIT: I've yet to see her do the double tail flip, which is the bane of greedy Hunters everywhere.
She does it while enraged specifically. She'll do flip, aerial reposition, flip again, land.
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I'm very keen on both roundslash and the piercing bind, but I have to give either one (or both!) up for the ability to attack on titan monsters!!!
It's not difficult and I don't get hit by it but it's like, for the love of god just stand still so I can kill you
I guess I had assumed Rathian's poison sacks or w/e were actually in her talons, since the poison has always been included after tail cuts. Also, if it were in the tail, why wouldn't a tail swipe poison you?
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I've bounced off of everything else I've tried for several hours. I think I just really really need to get my guard skills from outside armor pieces, I think, because most of them are kind of shit.
If I could get a 3 Guard and 3 Guard Up with a 3 deco slot talisman I'd be set.
Yeah, with the jump on attack option there, Tower Vault just seems redundant.
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Steam: Korvalain
Hmmm. Okay, that helps. I am really reliant on the flurry rush for positioning, so I need to figure out how to play around with this.
Maybe the whole underside of the tail is lined with small venomous barbs, but the sides and top aren't? That's the most consistent explanation I can think of.
I think they may have coded hitboxes in Rise in such a way that removing the tail isn't actually removing the collision zone.
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i can't explain exactly how i adapted my playstyle, but i'm running the same setup as Hahnsoo and i haven't really had any major issues with positioning
part of that certainly has to do with having full evade extender, i'm sure
Yeah, I'll have to play around just using dashes. I'm just muscle-memorying flurry rush to get closer and reposition. We will see! I do have a full evade extender set, so I'll try it tonight.
If this had one more level 2 slot (so I could hit const 4) it would be perfect, but otherwise I think I'm done gearing up bow for now.
Completely out of aquaglow jewels though, just making all my ele attack decos took 50 of the things.
That being said, there are Greatswords in some of the games that look like giant swordfish that inflict Ice Element and GS that look like cats that inflict Para, and I'm here for it.
The real question is, why does getting hit by the tail spin 100% of the time inflict poison? Usually that stuff has to get into the blood stream somehow. You're telling me regardless of quality of armor, every single tail spin that connects penetrates through the armor to poison the hunter instantly? You're never just kind of bludgeoned away by a glancing blow?
Yian Garuga used to do this to me all the time and it was always irritating.
EDIT: Re: Duals skills, not only is Tower Vault unnecessary, but I am super reliant on Piercing Bind for part breaks/tail cuts. My general offense is... all over the place, literally.
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I mean maybe the poison sac is still there in the tail somewhere and it's now just leaking all over the place. Just because I can't deliver the poison into you with a hypodermic needle doesn't mean you won't get poisoned if you get slathered in it from it's poisonous tail stump.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rKoelN9BcOPB16F86Vhfq2BsDUEWNW4dUimekUb7o4A/edit?usp=sharing
At some point I'll probably add additional weapons to the list, or if you want to make a copy and do it yourself, it should do the math for you (the math being just a straight sharpness modifier, I didn't get too deep into all the different skills, like crit ele or ele boost).
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Technically not every armor set, but yes.
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PSN: AbEntropy
It's not for sexy reasons it's because ladies are sensitive to inner thigh chafing when wearing mythical monster based armors. If they didn't expose the thighs, you'd just be complaining about all the time spent gratuitously rubbing ointment on their thighs.