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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Is there a better Ryzen than that intel CPU at the same price point?

    Probably when the 5000 series comes out. The R5 5600 is gonna be a beast (I hope).

  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    I know it is not exciting like the Nvidia GPUs, but Amazon just notified me that the cooler master NR200P case is in stock. If anyone was looking for that. That's the one with the riser and the tempered glass side so it is more expensive. I got the non-p a few days ago I don't know if they're still in stock.

    They seem to go fast though.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhyCdraz54s

    tl;dr: it wasn't the capacitors, it was rushed launch meaning drivers weren't quite ready, possibly plus the cards being clocked to the limit.

  • HalfazedninjaHalfazedninja Author of Jake Howard: Multiverse 101! Behind YouRegistered User regular
    Is there a better Ryzen than that intel CPU at the same price point?

    The prices were about the same actually and the intel squeaked out slightly better overall

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    V1m wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhyCdraz54s

    tl;dr: it wasn't the capacitors, it was rushed launch meaning drivers weren't quite ready, possibly plus the cards being clocked to the limit.

    That would explain why last week's driver fixed a bunch of issues.

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    Hey, want to see something funny? So this is a usual pinout for the front panel USB pins on a motherboard.
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    This is the pinout on my Shuttle HOT 591P
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    Ok, some needle nose pliers got all the wires rearranged in the USB header for the bracket I got. Except I have a second problem. The USB bracket I have has pin 9 filled in on it's header, and my motherboard has all 10 pins, despite 2 of them being listed as doing nothing. I guess I have choices. Clip the extra pin off the motherboard, or make a new hole on the USB bracket connector. I chose to make a new hole. My tools...
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    Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Heated the safety pin with the butane torch I used to light my cigars, pushed it through the connector to make a new hole, and it fits like a glove on the motherboard. Found a USB Mass Storage driver for Windows 95, tested a little thumb drive on both ports, works fantastic.

    Played a good chunk of GLQuake, Quake 2 and Dark Forces 2 on it tonight, just to get a feel for how it's doing. GLQuake stutters constantly, but the other two are smooth as butter. Go figure.

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    V1m wrote: »

    tl;dr: it wasn't the capacitors, it was rushed launch meaning drivers weren't quite ready, possibly plus the cards being clocked to the limit.

    I wonder if this means this generation will last longer than normal? There were rumors of Nvidia looking at 5nm production but you'd have to imagine that's been delayed due to the pandemic.


    Edit: That machine behind him is huge but has an interesting water cooling setup.

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  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    Is there a better Ryzen than that intel CPU at the same price point?

    The prices were about the same actually and the intel squeaked out slightly better overall

    Arguably the Ryzen 5 3600 is slightly better—better at non-game applications, while the i5 seemed to pull a bit ahead in games at 3200mhz, but that board limits your memory to 2933mhz. I'm not familiar enough with the Ryzen motherboards to recommend a similar one around $100 though.

    Also, if you're like me and use a monitor for a long stretch of years and you're spending $300 already, I'd recommend getting a 1440p 27" instead of a 1080 24".

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  • DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    It's two monitors in the cart though, unless you mean just get one.

  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    Nope, missed that. Disregard!

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  • DratatooDratatoo Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Rius wrote: »
    I won't lie, Namrok; I thought the retroPC idea was pretty cool but I wasn't really sure why anyone would go to the trouble. Other then as a technical exercise. But then;
    Namrok wrote: »
    I also went to my storage unit and pulled a whole box full of my old games that should run on this thing. Just a cornucopia of 90's goodness. Diablo, StarCraft, Command & Conquer, XCom, Dungeon Keeper, System Shock, too many to list honestly. There's probably 50 games in that box. It's really made me have second thoughts about digital distribution, and how much I'm at the mercy of it to retrieve anything from it 20, 30 years from now. There is something that gives me warm fuzzies about just putting in the old cds on an airgapped system and just getting to play them again.


    Oh yeah, ok. Now I get it. And now I'm kinda jealous, lol.

    For me the reason for a retro PC are games that need HW acceleration und bare metal environment. For example I can’t get the 3D accelerated games Extreme Assault, the 3D Plattformer Montezumas Revenge, Interstate 76 and the unofficial port of PS > PC of Exhumed / Powerslave to run in an emulated environment, VM or modern OS. So, it’s easier for me to chuck the old components I still have into a box and run them natively.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    We have a Brother printer that likes to go to sleep and not show up on the network. When I get home I'm going to try to mess with settings to see if I can keep it from deep sleeping.

    Barring that, I'm considering using this as an opportunity to mess with a RPi Zero W and CUPS as a wireless print server.

    Has anyone had good experiences with CUPS as a wireless print solution at home?

  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit Tandem Electrostatic Accelerator Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    We have a Brother printer that likes to go to sleep and not show up on the network. When I get home I'm going to try to mess with settings to see if I can keep it from deep sleeping.

    Barring that, I'm considering using this as an opportunity to mess with a RPi Zero W and CUPS as a wireless print server.

    Has anyone had good experiences with CUPS as a wireless print solution at home?

    Is it on WiFi? Mine Brother printer had the same issue and required a power cycle after a few days in inactivity. The only solution I’ve found is to put it on a wired connection.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    Yep, my Brother printer is also stupid about not being able to wake from sleep on wireless. Finally gave up and wired it instead.

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    My Samsung printer remembers, and tries to connect to, my work laptop from 2 jobs ago but can't/won't find computers or laptops on the network.

    Printers are weird yo.

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Amazon put a bunch of cards up at 5 am EST this morning, they sold out in ~12 minutes.

    On the one hand, that means they probably didn't get snapped up by bots, so that's good. On the other, not pleased that Amazon is catering to the dracula/moleperson market.

  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    Amazon put a bunch of cards up at 5 am EST this morning, they sold out in ~12 minutes.

    On the one hand, that means they probably didn't get snapped up by bots, so that's good. On the other, not pleased that Amazon is catering to the dracula/moleperson market.

    12 minutes? That's progress, at least.

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    And considering the number of RTX 3080 cards on Ebay hasn't significantly gone up recently (320 to 400 with "RTX 3080" search term), I'm hoping this means trying to resell them has proven to not nearly be as profitable as expected, since these aren't limited products or concert tickets.

  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
    In related news, Nvidia has removed all mention of the FE cards from their Canadian site, meaning I'll likely have to go secondary market to purchase one now. QQ
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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    With luck, Nvidia's announcements re: shipping volumes will encourage people not to deal with the scalpers. With any luck, at least a fraction of them will be dissuaded from trying the same game with Navi2. I'd like to be able to choose from in-stock, at-MSRP price cards before Christmas please.

    I don't ask much and I don't live at all extravagantly, but I have decided a swish new video card is my consolation prize for this shitty year 4 years and I want one. I don't care if it is capitalist consumerism brainwashing me into believing that fulfillment comes from soon-to-be-obsolete materiel possessions. I want a new goddamb video card, and I want a good one.

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  • cardboard delusionscardboard delusions USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    Amazon put a bunch of cards up at 5 am EST this morning, they sold out in ~12 minutes.

    On the one hand, that means they probably didn't get snapped up by bots, so that's good. On the other, not pleased that Amazon is catering to the dracula/moleperson market.

    12 minutes? That's progress, at least.

    I don't understand the time significance, bots sleep?

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    3clipse wrote: »
    Amazon put a bunch of cards up at 5 am EST this morning, they sold out in ~12 minutes.

    On the one hand, that means they probably didn't get snapped up by bots, so that's good. On the other, not pleased that Amazon is catering to the dracula/moleperson market.

    12 minutes? That's progress, at least.

    I don't understand the time significance, bots sleep?

    12 minutes is hundreds of times slower than launch day, which means less scalpers theoretically or far more supply

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  • DratatooDratatoo Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Mugsley wrote: »
    We have a Brother printer that likes to go to sleep and not show up on the network. When I get home I'm going to try to mess with settings to see if I can keep it from deep sleeping.

    Barring that, I'm considering using this as an opportunity to mess with a RPi Zero W and CUPS as a wireless print server.

    Has anyone had good experiences with CUPS as a wireless print solution at home?


    Raises hand. I used Raspberian (Raspberry OS) and CUPS to share an old HP Laserjet via AirPrint. Unproblematic setup, ran for years without problems. But I used a Raspberry 3b.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    And considering the number of RTX 3080 cards on Ebay hasn't significantly gone up recently (320 to 400 with "RTX 3080" search term), I'm hoping this means trying to resell them has proven to not nearly be as profitable as expected, since these aren't limited products or concert tickets.

    or a limited run of a pair of shoes

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  • DratatooDratatoo Registered User regular
    Namrok wrote: »
    Hey, want to see something funny? So this is a usual pinout for the front panel USB pins on a motherboard.
    a6m9mt78vjmx.png

    The joy of non standard internal and front panel USB connection. - the first mainboard I killed because of this. I ‘member.

  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Yep, my Brother printer is also stupid about not being able to wake from sleep on wireless. Finally gave up and wired it instead.

    This one doesn't have an ethernet port and yes it was on wifi before. That's why I was going to try a PiZero W as an adhoc USB wireless print server

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Dratatoo wrote: »
    Namrok wrote: »
    Hey, want to see something funny? So this is a usual pinout for the front panel USB pins on a motherboard.
    a6m9mt78vjmx.png

    The joy of non standard internal and front panel USB connection. - the first mainboard I killed because of this. I ‘member.

    Yeah there was a point in time that all usb pins came separated like the front led/switches do. That was awful to do.

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  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit Tandem Electrostatic Accelerator Registered User regular
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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    My PSU for my mini itx case came way earlier than expected (fans apparently are going to be here tomorrow, despite the site still saying oct 7-14, so that's cool. I might just wait till they come to build the PC so I don't have to worry about replacing fans in a day).

    It's the corsair SF600. Modular.

    Question: all my PSU's are corsair. I have extra cables from other modular ones that might make things easier (i.e. cables have mesh sleeve with heatshrinked ends), that I don't believe should be any different than the ones that came with this PSU. Any reason I can't just use them instead, if it makes my life better? I'll have to look at lengths, maybe they're too long, but otherwise I think it'd be easier to fit the rounded sleeved cables around things than the flat ones that are the default generics.

    EDIT: they're all a good bit longer, so maybe it doesn't matter.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Check the compatibility charts. Also, the years. Corsair type 2 cables are compatible with most of their psus, but that's not something you want to risk

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    So, once I get this new PSU, what was that I was reading a couple pages ago about RAM clock speed? I've never really done any significant digging into a BIOS. I understand the general premise, and I'm used to boot menu stuff, but I've always been afraid to OC, mostly based on fear of incorrectly applied thermal paste.

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  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    So, once I get this new PSU, what was that I was reading a couple pages ago about RAM clock speed? I've never really done any significant digging into a BIOS. I understand the general premise, and I'm used to boot menu stuff, but I've always been afraid to OC, mostly based on fear of incorrectly applied thermal paste.

    Well if you over-overclock your RAM, it will usually be pretty instantly evident, in that your PC won't boot (or will crash very quickly), and will reboot with your fancy new DDR3600 or whatever running at DDR4's base JEDEC stats (DDR2100). You can't hurt it unless you go to town with the over-volting.

  • MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Brody wrote: »
    So, once I get this new PSU, what was that I was reading a couple pages ago about RAM clock speed? I've never really done any significant digging into a BIOS. I understand the general premise, and I'm used to boot menu stuff, but I've always been afraid to OC, mostly based on fear of incorrectly applied thermal paste.

    I think it's enabling the xmp profile. My ram didn't run at 3600 until that was done.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Yes, to get RAM to run above the default 2133 MHz (for DDR4) clock speed, you need to enable XMP (Intel) or DOCP (AMD) in your BIOS. It's pretty straightforward, often on the main BIOS screen that it will load into.

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    (I mean, you can also set all the voltages, resistances, and timings manually, but it's a lot more work and only something you'd really bother with if you were trying to really optimize the piss out of your memory).

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  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    And I think your motherboard has to support the higher speed?

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Bigity wrote: »
    And I think your motherboard has to support the higher speed?

    True, although these days if your mobo is so old that it wouldn't support faster RAM, likely the RAM controller on your CPU wouldn't either.

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  • ICUbICUb WARegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    TUFF & FTW3 up on newegg, gogo! edits for Aorus launch

    AORUS RTX 3080 Master Launch on October 2, 2020 at 6:30 PM PST on newegg, link below provided by Gigabyte rep supposed to go live @ 630

    https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814137336

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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Anyone get one? I was a bit late and saw the add to cart for Gigabyte card but it didn't work.

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  • ICUbICUb WARegistered User regular
    Email confirmation and CC charge for the TUF, huzzah.



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