So tldr should I burn my pity on zhongli now, or wait for albedo?
Dunno, on the one hand I've been very underwhelmed by everything shown about albedo so far but given the backlash on zhongli it also seems unlikely they would release another (perceived as) weak 5*. Also, while these changes to zhongli all sounds great, none of it is confirmed and its all subject to change, and I'm 100% sure they are announcing it 1 day before the banner closes to encourage FOMO in a bunch of people. I can't imagine the fallout if they back out on a lot of it after getting people to roll though, so does seem unlikely.
Anyways, if it was me, I would roll for Zhongli, since he is just orders of magnitude cooler than albedo, and I'm fairly certain he's going to end up being better/more powerful than Albedo. I paid money to get to a c2 zhongli though, so take my advice with a grain of salt, lol.
Superconduct's damage is pretty low. Maybe not negligible with the right setup, but not really worth it either. The best thing about it is the drop to physical resistance, which is awkward at best with Chongyun.
He's really good at supporting Diluc and Bennett (and probably will be great for some future pyro characters). If a hydro claymore-user existed, he'd probably be great at supporting them, too. For anyone electro, Kaeya is definitely better.
It's more contextual than that.
Even though Superconduct's base damage is low, it scales with each trigger in an AoE (a behaviour that for whatever reason Overloaded doesn't seem to share). Applying it to 3 enemies results in 9 total applications of its damage; 4 - 16; 5 - 25, and so on. So for most single target large enemies, Kaeya or other characters who apply Cryo just once are better for the physical resist malus (possibly excluding Ruin Guard, because of their massive 70% phys res meaning Chongyun's cryo-typing gives you an effective 60% defense penetration; it'll depend on what your Physical Damage % stat is at). On the other hand, against groups of enemies, being able to repeatedly proc Superconduct will do deceptively high amounts of damage because of the way it scales. Beidou is better than Razor for this because her ult doesn't disable her charged attack, which attacks faster and in a wider sweep than her normal attack, allowing much quicker triggers, but Razor is still pretty good (and both Chongyun and Razor's ult eventually give extra attack speed). Obviously, both of these cases only apply while their respective ults are available.
I'll admit, that's certainly better than I was thinking. I'm still not really sold, though. You'd need to hit five targets to do as much damage to each of them as you would with Electro-Charged, and that's not counting the extra AOE effect where Electro-Charged spreads to adjacent wet enemies. And I don't exactly hear people talking about Electro-Charged being especially powerful (although I personally think it's underrated). Chongyun sounds alright for Beidou, but still not nearly as good as Xingqiu. And since Razor gets physical damage as his ascension stat, you'll always be cutting some amount of his damage away.
I also think you're underestimating Kaeya quite a bit. His E skill is pretty effective for just switching to him, throwing that out to trigger superconduct, and go back. But with his burst up, you'll be able to do the same kinda thing you're describing with Chongyun without hurting Razor's physical damage. It's not as expensive as the likes of Xingqui's either, so stack some energy regen on it and you can use it pretty frequently.
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Well there are only so many stats, and having him scale off HP allows him to use gear that is otherwise undervalued
And the changes to Zhongli himself are relatively minor but the changes to Geo are significant and make Zhongli much better at his job
He can create shields with like 20k effective HP now
Although I like the "When life gives you lemons make lemonade" attitude, it's a design issue that not even the characters that want hp want it for its main purpose.
They certainly could make a tanky dps if they wanted, so this idea he should be support seems odd to me.
So tldr should I burn my pity on zhongli now, or wait for albedo?
Personally I think I'm going to wait, stacking up gems with Zenlike patience, for the cocogoat Ayaka.
Im hoping after Cocogoat comes out, Xiao comes before Ayaka and I can save again. Im actually surprised at how much currency Ive been able to save up since draining the coffers dry on Zhongli.
Though if Rosaria is the new 4star on the Albedo banner as rumored? Fuck me I guess.
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So tldr should I burn my pity on zhongli now, or wait for albedo?
Personally I think I'm going to wait, stacking up gems with Zenlike patience, for the cocogoat Ayaka.
Im hoping after Cocogoat comes out, Xiao comes before Ayaka and I can save again. Im actually surprised at how much currency Ive been able to save up since draining the coffers dry on Zhongli.
Though if Rosaria is the new 4star on the Albedo banner as rumored? Fuck me I guess.
I thought they confirmed no new 4*s for either 1.2 banner?
So tldr should I burn my pity on zhongli now, or wait for albedo?
Personally I think I'm going to wait, stacking up gems with Zenlike patience, for the cocogoat Ayaka.
Im hoping after Cocogoat comes out, Xiao comes before Ayaka and I can save again. Im actually surprised at how much currency Ive been able to save up since draining the coffers dry on Zhongli.
Though if Rosaria is the new 4star on the Albedo banner as rumored? Fuck me I guess.
Right now people seem to think that Xiao will be in late February for the lantern festival,
So tldr should I burn my pity on zhongli now, or wait for albedo?
Personally I think I'm going to wait, stacking up gems with Zenlike patience, for the cocogoat Ayaka.
Im hoping after Cocogoat comes out, Xiao comes before Ayaka and I can save again. Im actually surprised at how much currency Ive been able to save up since draining the coffers dry on Zhongli.
Though if Rosaria is the new 4star on the Albedo banner as rumored? Fuck me I guess.
I thought they confirmed no new 4*s for either 1.2 banner?
As far as I know, no confirmation one way or the other. However, the new 1.2 preview thing says "one new character" showing Albedo, and they have pointedly not mentioned anything about any 4*s so seems extremely unlikely that Rosaria is going to be on the banner at this point.
I'm going to reiterate my prediction of Albedo/Bennett/Kaeya/Lisa for posterity, but just to be clear that is based on zero data.
So tldr should I burn my pity on zhongli now, or wait for albedo?
Personally I think I'm going to wait, stacking up gems with Zenlike patience, for the cocogoat Ayaka.
Im hoping after Cocogoat comes out, Xiao comes before Ayaka and I can save again. Im actually surprised at how much currency Ive been able to save up since draining the coffers dry on Zhongli.
Though if Rosaria is the new 4star on the Albedo banner as rumored? Fuck me I guess.
Right now people seem to think that Xiao will be in late February for the lantern festival,
if so, it'd be Albedo, Ganyu, <Unknown>, Xiao
Depending on information we get about albedo, I really like the look of xiao, so I’d be happy to just save up gems until end of February, that would be great
I'm hoping to get Albedo on my side account that has Zhongli to see if that's a thing at all (hitting pity soon but it's not guaranteed to be the banner character), but my real account will be continuing to wait. I'm really interested in both Ganyu and Xiao though, so it's probably going to be tough to make a decision next time.
The buffs to Geo stuff and Zhongli aren't due until 1.3, but I've been content with him as is. The best part about using a secondary account is that I have no concern about any decisions that I make. If I get Albedo and he doesn't pan out, it's fine.
The buffs to Geo stuff and Zhongli aren't due until 1.3, but I've been content with him as is. The best part about using a secondary account is that I have no concern about any decisions that I make. If I get Albedo and he doesn't pan out, it's fine.
I had a question about 1.3. That's the current playtest server right? If they are testing something standalone like Geo, could they move it up? I'm just being hopeful cause my last two character pulls have been Zhonli and Ningguang.
Someone on reddit said it's basically their only "non-live" test environment, so yes they could push out "minor" changes like this quicker. Still wouldn't hold your breath tho.
is sucrose good? I get the fischl/bennet part of that though
If nothing else, she has this passive: "When Sucrose crafts Character and Weapon Enhancement Materials, she has a 10% chance to obtain double the product." I just want her for that and to have an anemo character so I don't have to keep on swapping the traveller back and forth.
Haha, awesome! I’m happy to be wrong. Fischl was my top hope here. Couldn’t care less about sucrose since I have venti, but now I’m probably going to end up with Albedo anyways.
... I really wonder who’s going to be on the Ganyu banner now
ugh, I really need bennet, but albedo isn't kinda leaving me cold. If he was literally any other element, his powers would be great, for reactons, but with geo? bleh
is sucrose good? I get the fischl/bennet part of that though
Sucrose is a fantastic support unit. Her only problem is that she's not as powerful as Venti, so people who have him probably aren't going to bother with her. Even then, there are situations where she's better, since Venti's vortex has issues with pulling enemies too high for you to hit sometimes.
I have Bennet C1, and... all the rest look meh until C6? Or am I missing something.
His C1 is really all he needs, yeah. And his C6 is actually awful; it's an active detriment to many scenarios where you would use him. I'd recommend not activating that constellation if anyone ever gets it.
I have Bennet C1, and... all the rest look meh until C6? Or am I missing something.
Fischl has a place-able turret (OZ/raven) and is a good bow based phys dps (with c1/c2, I forget which allows Oz to shoot when you do). She kinda becomes a little machine gun.
Sucrose looks like a poor mans Venti, but I don't have her yet so I dunno.
sucrose is supposed to be a more DPS focused version of venti. But without the insane crowd control and grouping. but she does get bonus EM, which is really nice
Venti is so good at coop domains that don’t have large boss enemies, it’s insane
It’s so silly to pop off his ultimate, it immediately recharges, and the dudes fall down and in two seconds the cooldown comes off and they’re tumbling on their asses again
Venti is so good at coop domains that don’t have large boss enemies, it’s insane
It’s so silly to pop off his ultimate, it immediately recharges, and the dudes fall down and in two seconds the cooldown comes off and they’re tumbling on their asses again
Yeah, I didn't really pull on his banner at the time, because I didn't want a tone deaf bard. But seeing him in coop makes me have second thoughts. Kinda sucks that none of the new 5 stars are getting added to the standard banner, I have no idea when they'll return.
Random stats, but it took me 78ish pulls to get 1 Xinyan on the last banner. So good luck trying for Bennet. (I'm also like 60 pulls in on the path to the next 5 star, might wait for what's after Albedo.) Also, patch preload is up.
Trying to get all the lvl 90 domains solo farmable is a task and a half. I can do 2 now though.
Sucrose is to Venti as Flintheart Glomgold is to Scrooge McDuck. He's the second richest duck in the world and totally inferior to Scrooge... but he's still the second richest duck in the world.
...That is to say she may be a poor man's Venti, but a poor man's Venti is still a fuckin' rich man.
And if nothing else, try and get 1 of her just for the crafting bonus.
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Also, maybe this is just poor wording on their part, but it sounds like they scaled back the proposed "get Basic Fates at certain Ascension intervals", so now it's only when the Traveler ascends?
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If the albedo banner has Bennett, I don't think I can wait
Dunno, on the one hand I've been very underwhelmed by everything shown about albedo so far but given the backlash on zhongli it also seems unlikely they would release another (perceived as) weak 5*. Also, while these changes to zhongli all sounds great, none of it is confirmed and its all subject to change, and I'm 100% sure they are announcing it 1 day before the banner closes to encourage FOMO in a bunch of people. I can't imagine the fallout if they back out on a lot of it after getting people to roll though, so does seem unlikely.
Anyways, if it was me, I would roll for Zhongli, since he is just orders of magnitude cooler than albedo, and I'm fairly certain he's going to end up being better/more powerful than Albedo. I paid money to get to a c2 zhongli though, so take my advice with a grain of salt, lol.
I'll admit, that's certainly better than I was thinking. I'm still not really sold, though. You'd need to hit five targets to do as much damage to each of them as you would with Electro-Charged, and that's not counting the extra AOE effect where Electro-Charged spreads to adjacent wet enemies. And I don't exactly hear people talking about Electro-Charged being especially powerful (although I personally think it's underrated). Chongyun sounds alright for Beidou, but still not nearly as good as Xingqiu. And since Razor gets physical damage as his ascension stat, you'll always be cutting some amount of his damage away.
I also think you're underestimating Kaeya quite a bit. His E skill is pretty effective for just switching to him, throwing that out to trigger superconduct, and go back. But with his burst up, you'll be able to do the same kinda thing you're describing with Chongyun without hurting Razor's physical damage. It's not as expensive as the likes of Xingqui's either, so stack some energy regen on it and you can use it pretty frequently.
Although I like the "When life gives you lemons make lemonade" attitude, it's a design issue that not even the characters that want hp want it for its main purpose.
They certainly could make a tanky dps if they wanted, so this idea he should be support seems odd to me.
Im hoping after Cocogoat comes out, Xiao comes before Ayaka and I can save again. Im actually surprised at how much currency Ive been able to save up since draining the coffers dry on Zhongli.
Though if Rosaria is the new 4star on the Albedo banner as rumored? Fuck me I guess.
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I thought they confirmed no new 4*s for either 1.2 banner?
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Right now people seem to think that Xiao will be in late February for the lantern festival,
if so, it'd be Albedo, Ganyu, <Unknown>, Xiao
As far as I know, no confirmation one way or the other. However, the new 1.2 preview thing says "one new character" showing Albedo, and they have pointedly not mentioned anything about any 4*s so seems extremely unlikely that Rosaria is going to be on the banner at this point.
I'm going to reiterate my prediction of Albedo/Bennett/Kaeya/Lisa for posterity, but just to be clear that is based on zero data.
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Depending on information we get about albedo, I really like the look of xiao, so I’d be happy to just save up gems until end of February, that would be great
I had a question about 1.3. That's the current playtest server right? If they are testing something standalone like Geo, could they move it up? I'm just being hopeful cause my last two character pulls have been Zhonli and Ningguang.
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Man do they want people to pull for Albedo.
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is sucrose good? I get the fischl/bennet part of that though
If nothing else, she has this passive: "When Sucrose crafts Character and Weapon Enhancement Materials, she has a 10% chance to obtain double the product." I just want her for that and to have an anemo character so I don't have to keep on swapping the traveller back and forth.
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fischl is like, one of the best DPS in the game and her Cs are very helpful for that
... I really wonder who’s going to be on the Ganyu banner now
Sucrose is a fantastic support unit. Her only problem is that she's not as powerful as Venti, so people who have him probably aren't going to bother with her. Even then, there are situations where she's better, since Venti's vortex has issues with pulling enemies too high for you to hit sometimes.
His C1 is really all he needs, yeah. And his C6 is actually awful; it's an active detriment to many scenarios where you would use him. I'd recommend not activating that constellation if anyone ever gets it.
Fischl has a place-able turret (OZ/raven) and is a good bow based phys dps (with c1/c2, I forget which allows Oz to shoot when you do). She kinda becomes a little machine gun.
Sucrose looks like a poor mans Venti, but I don't have her yet so I dunno.
It’s so silly to pop off his ultimate, it immediately recharges, and the dudes fall down and in two seconds the cooldown comes off and they’re tumbling on their asses again
Yeah, I didn't really pull on his banner at the time, because I didn't want a tone deaf bard. But seeing him in coop makes me have second thoughts. Kinda sucks that none of the new 5 stars are getting added to the standard banner, I have no idea when they'll return.
Random stats, but it took me 78ish pulls to get 1 Xinyan on the last banner. So good luck trying for Bennet. (I'm also like 60 pulls in on the path to the next 5 star, might wait for what's after Albedo.) Also, patch preload is up.
Trying to get all the lvl 90 domains solo farmable is a task and a half. I can do 2 now though.
It looks better, but better enough that being Geo isn't purely negative...?
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...That is to say she may be a poor man's Venti, but a poor man's Venti is still a fuckin' rich man.
And if nothing else, try and get 1 of her just for the crafting bonus.
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All the other stuff is just gravy.
Hoooooly shit best news ever
Also, maybe this is just poor wording on their part, but it sounds like they scaled back the proposed "get Basic Fates at certain Ascension intervals", so now it's only when the Traveler ascends?