Geez that sucks! Would it help if he'd stay with a trusted family member for a few days to kinda reset the social rules he has to abide by? It seems like you have to escalate something to try and get through to him, but what could work?
He could stay with grandma, but that's more of a reward then a punishment. They visit her every other weekend and she lets them have all kinds of fun.
I'm open to anything.
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Geez that sucks! Would it help if he'd stay with a trusted family member for a few days to kinda reset the social rules he has to abide by? It seems like you have to escalate something to try and get through to him, but what could work?
He could stay with grandma, but that's more of a reward then a punishment. They visit her every other weekend and she lets them have all kinds of fun.
I'm open to anything.
Did you try Time Outs in coordination with the teachers?
Also, have the teachers start lavishing extensive praise during whatever moments he behaves, even if it's small. Make him like doing the good things (and know what those are) to build on.
Does he do anything similar to this at home at all?
I also feel like the teachers are giving up a little easily. Dealing with problematic behavior is part of their job, and "misbehave and I get to go home and everyone pays attention to me" is a really bad lesson from them...
Geez that sucks! Would it help if he'd stay with a trusted family member for a few days to kinda reset the social rules he has to abide by? It seems like you have to escalate something to try and get through to him, but what could work?
He could stay with grandma, but that's more of a reward then a punishment. They visit her every other weekend and she lets them have all kinds of fun.
I'm open to anything.
Obviously she's allowed to be a source of joy and fun in their life, but maybe she wants to help you and yours to see if he could stay with her for a few days and follow the rules of her house?
Yeah, the school really should be coming up with a plan and not sending him home? Like, if it's a thing the teachers cannot handle, then he should be evaluated for an IEP with extra help. My son has a 1:1 para partially because he's a runner who needs individual help. He's smart as a whip, but needs a lot of redirection.
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Geez that sucks! Would it help if he'd stay with a trusted family member for a few days to kinda reset the social rules he has to abide by? It seems like you have to escalate something to try and get through to him, but what could work?
He could stay with grandma, but that's more of a reward then a punishment. They visit her every other weekend and she lets them have all kinds of fun.
I'm open to anything.
Did you try Time Outs in coordination with the teachers?
Also, have the teachers start lavishing extensive praise during whatever moments he behaves, even if it's small. Make him like doing the good things (and know what those are) to build on.
Does he do anything similar to this at home at all?
I also feel like the teachers are giving up a little easily. Dealing with problematic behavior is part of their job, and "misbehave and I get to go home and everyone pays attention to me" is a really bad lesson from them...
Well, the school has been dealing with his erratic behavior for 3 weeks now. He's been very disruptive for a while now. They've been trying to work with him, but they thought a go home early day would be the best.
I haven't had many opportunities to coordinate with the school for time outs, so I'm not sure if they'll even do them. The center manager told me that they'll talk with their behavior specialists and see what they can do tomorrow.
She's been having us focus on choices and decisions being good and bad, and not letting him think that he's good or bad. Today I told him no several times because of his bad choices. I'm really hoping that this stuff starts sinking in soon.
Geez that sucks! Would it help if he'd stay with a trusted family member for a few days to kinda reset the social rules he has to abide by? It seems like you have to escalate something to try and get through to him, but what could work?
He could stay with grandma, but that's more of a reward then a punishment. They visit her every other weekend and she lets them have all kinds of fun.
I'm open to anything.
Obviously she's allowed to be a source of joy and fun in their life, but maybe she wants to help you and yours to see if he could stay with her for a few days and follow the rules of her house?
Spitballin' here, of course.
It's possible. She does let the kids run her over all the time. Her discipline is basically non-existent. Of course, without his sister around, grandma might be able to get Luke to listen to her.
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If you want more thoughts or whatnot, let us know what the school says re: Time Outs and their ideas
"Decisions being good or bad, and not the person being good or bad" is, I mean, the right thing to do and very important. It's just also like.... tangential to your problems, I feel.
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So we were going to wait until after lockdown, but it's been a long 5 weeks, with at least 2-? more to go.
So I finally caved on getting Ellie a blind bag type toy, we got her 2 magic color reveal barbies.
The absolute fucking elated JOY on her face when she opened the courier bag, and the fact that she's now playing with them in her own little world and everything is worth it.
The whole "omg mommy i need to complete the whole set!" that I was expecting, and it happened is *less* cool.
But i'll go with the absolute JOY right now. and deal with the "shiny shiny shiny" later.
Food taste is highly subjective and there's no "right" or "wrong" way to enjoy the food you're eating.
That being said, Athena dunking any food she's been given into water before eating it like some kind of raccoon is WRONG and I'm trying my best to break that habit.
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It seems really obvious in hindsight, so maybe we are just very dumb
But by simply not giving the boy any snacks when he comes home, he is a billion percent more likely to actually eat the dinner we present to him
My oldest is having trouble adjusting to only getting 15 minutes to eat lunch before being sent outside at Kindergarten, we've had a bunch of meltdowns about why I didn't bring snacks when we pick him up to transfer to after school care.
He was prepped for this at daycare, but we had about a month between him finishing daycare and school starting, so I think he forgot.
And our little dude turned one. Somehow, I have 2 kids whose age can be reported in years now.
My oldest is having trouble adjusting to only getting 15 minutes to eat lunch before being sent outside at Kindergarten, we've had a bunch of meltdowns about why I didn't bring snacks when we pick him up to transfer to after school care.
He was prepped for this at daycare, but we had about a month between him finishing daycare and school starting, so I think he forgot.
And our little dude turned one. Somehow, I have 2 kids whose age can be reported in years now.
Our boy is one tomorrow, and it feels like forever and an eyeblink. I don’t even know how we got here.
Incidentally, thank you, thread, you all have helped more than you know.
(I was all for packing the goblin off tomorrow to daycare, but was overruled!)
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one of the coolest things for me, as a mum, has been those instances of "wow, holy shit. when did you get so much older?".
Like, the other night at dinner, Ellie was chatting along as she always does but then I blinked and suddenly, the hand movements and body movements were suddenly just so much older than they were the second before. And nothing about her really changed, just i suddenly/finally noticed another "baby/toddler" motion had disappeared. Or a word that she used to struggle with is suddenly clear. Or the legs that just keep getting longer and suddenly she can reach the buttons on the microwave.
Just the weirdest feeling of time moving ever on and then suddenly the brain going "hold up that kid is older than she was 2 weeks ago".
I noticed that with Little King's running. His legs are longer, but he is also more athletic: there's a bounce in his step and a focus on his face to accelerate and avoid obstacles.
one of the coolest things for me, as a mum, has been those instances of "wow, holy shit. when did you get so much older?".
Like, the other night at dinner, Ellie was chatting along as she always does but then I blinked and suddenly, the hand movements and body movements were suddenly just so much older than they were the second before. And nothing about her really changed, just i suddenly/finally noticed another "baby/toddler" motion had disappeared. Or a word that she used to struggle with is suddenly clear. Or the legs that just keep getting longer and suddenly she can reach the buttons on the microwave.
Just the weirdest feeling of time moving ever on and then suddenly the brain going "hold up that kid is older than she was 2 weeks ago".
this is how it is with my littlest cousin
I'll be talking to him and look over and realize he's standing casually and talking and gesturing like an adult and I'm just like "oh geez, you're a human."
still talks incessantly about Fortnite, but whatever.
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I call my kid "my favorite tiny human" because he's a hooman bean, and it helps me to remember that's the final goal is a grown hooman, especially when he's doing something decidedly not grown up (or stubbornly immature because he takes after his dear old dad a bit too much sometimes).
I also call him buddy, boo, and dude, because he's a sweet kid.
I also call him mischief and gremlin because . . . quod erat demonstrandum.
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My son is still being quite unruly. The school is going to contact us on Monday and we're going to work out a joint plan to help steer him back in the right direction.
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My son is still being quite unruly. The school is going to contact us on Monday and we're going to work out a joint plan to help steer him back in the right direction.
Working together with the school for a solid plan is a great step, good luck!
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I cannot keep up with how quickly T is picking up words. I know this is normal for their age (20 months) but holy shit. It’s like I basically don’t seem them at all for 2 days (I work 12 hour shifts those days) and then when I’m back it’s like… they’re suddenly and independently pointing at new things we’ve never pointed out before and naming them clearly with great enunciation!
It happened with “plane” a few weeks ago, “jelly” and “wobble” last week and today it just happened with “apple”, “bus”, “cake”, and “seat”. Calling Bodhi “bah-DEE” instead of “bo-bo.” Using request/command words appropriately, like “come”. Repeating words we say perfectly.
I feel like I’m surprised every time I read a familiar book with her, and she points to something that I’ve never bothered to name, and then just names it.
This brain expansion is of course paired with real Big Feelings which is no fun at all, but I try to remember that it’s a package deal and is what’s supposed to be happening, and that makes things a bit easier all round.
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Dude, I wish 20 months was where my dude had started talking. He doesn't like looking at faces, especially not eyes, and he doesn't show any interest in mimicking actual moth movements. He's barely even interested in talking, and it still sometimes takes prompting to even get him to tell me what he wants, because his first inclination is to drag me bodily to the thing he wants or get whatever he wants himself (which can be . . . worrying). I've mentioned before though that he's autistic and (mostly) non-verbal. His good words are hi, yes, no, downstairs, upstairs, c'mon, food, eat, hungry, more, mum, dad, ball/balls, again, play, back, and all of those are still . . . mushy? Like, hyee, yee-ush, non, doe-stay-ews, ub-stay-ews, g'mon, pfoodt, ead, 'ungwee, mow-uh, dadt, baowls, uh-gayen, pray, and batk, as examples.
And yes, he says "mum" flawlessly.
He has other situational words, but he's almost 5 and at this point I just let whatever he's going to say be it, for the most part. Which actually makes for funny things, like: I lay down with him to snuggle him to sleep (because otherwise he won't actually go to sleep, he's wound up so much), and the other night out of nowhere he said, "key-shees" (kissies) and I asked him how many, and he was quiet, so I said "do you need one kissy, or two kissies?" and he held his hands up, both as fists, and then started counting, "won, doo, free, foe-uh, fibe, zeex, zeben, aight, nin, den" while holding up each finger one after the other, and then grinned like a hyena. He knew exactly what he was requesting, and when I made sure by asking, "you need ten kissies?" he responded with an even bigger grin and a loud "yee-ush!"
See, this is why I find it so funny, having my ideas of communication challenged by this kid. I know he gets it. He's got the thought up there. And I know he recognizes words, or at least that letters make words and there's certain words he's more interested in than others. He's just not specifically inclined to say anything at all. It's almost like he's thinking "I've already had the thought, I've already told myself, why isn't that good enough?" and I have to day, I do understand that thought process. Like, he's non-verbal almost because he doesn't understand that we can't hear what he just thought. I've asked him a question before and he'll narrow his eyes and stare at me like he's going to bore holes in my skull, which is when I say "I can't hear your thoughts, dude", and he then proceeds to reach for my hand with a sigh to get me up to drag me to "the thing".
He still surprises me, though. The other day I was helping him drink water and he hit the cup because he didn't want any more water, and it got all over him, and in a fit of sadness he looked down and suddenly spouted, "oh no, I'mb all itcky!" and then instantly began to take his wet clothes off. He is my funny little dude.
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Son is due in nursery three full days next week. Me and my wife are off all week as it's her birthday so we'll get three days of doing stuff we can't usually do due to having a toddler.
He's been under the weather today again and has started getting a bit of a temp.
If he gets sick again and we have to cancel all our plans I'll lose my mind.
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The funniest word in the world is Butt and Athena is really testing its versatility. We've tried to tell her that it's not appropriate to use that much and especially not at school. If she's playing and calls me a "(Random Word) Butt" she'll do a quick check of my face to see if it's ok, but if I ask her what she just called me Athena will try to mitigate the damage with "I said a...cute face!"
We successfully called farts toots with both of my kids and it survived into elementary school and it's probably in the top five of our greatest parenting accomplishments.
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Ellie will do something similar to the 'toots' that Ripley does.
but instead of doing 'toot' she will just go "STINK"
and it can be either butt stink or foot stink, but you will get stinked at some point and it is *hilllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaarious*
Eldest (C) woke up 2am Thursday night and threw up everywhere. Completely emptied his stomach, all over his bed, floor, beanbag and a few books. That meant C had to miss out of the last day of school term, which he was looking forward to (they do a colour funrun). So he was sick and sad all day.
And last night, the youngest (O) wakes up at about the same time and YEP, spews all over the bed. And then, we bring him into our bed after cleaning up, and he.... spews over our bed, including down a gap between the mattress and bed frame.
He has spewed a few times since, including just now down the hallway, although this was just water and iceblocks.
Definately gastro come home from school.
Now my wife and I have to cross all our fingers and toes that we're not next.
Some of the worst illnesses I ever got were from my kids.
I avoided mono my entire childhood and early adulthood and our daughter got infected with it probably a week before daycare shut down for COVID back in march 2020. Once I caught it, I was sick as a dog for nearly 8 full weeks. 0/10 would not recommend.
Tonight we will be having separation anxiety, and waking up constantly to cry about it until someone comes to see us. Then crying more when they leave.
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He could stay with grandma, but that's more of a reward then a punishment. They visit her every other weekend and she lets them have all kinds of fun.
I'm open to anything.
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Did you try Time Outs in coordination with the teachers?
Also, have the teachers start lavishing extensive praise during whatever moments he behaves, even if it's small. Make him like doing the good things (and know what those are) to build on.
Does he do anything similar to this at home at all?
I also feel like the teachers are giving up a little easily. Dealing with problematic behavior is part of their job, and "misbehave and I get to go home and everyone pays attention to me" is a really bad lesson from them...
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Spitballin' here, of course.
Well, the school has been dealing with his erratic behavior for 3 weeks now. He's been very disruptive for a while now. They've been trying to work with him, but they thought a go home early day would be the best.
I haven't had many opportunities to coordinate with the school for time outs, so I'm not sure if they'll even do them. The center manager told me that they'll talk with their behavior specialists and see what they can do tomorrow.
She's been having us focus on choices and decisions being good and bad, and not letting him think that he's good or bad. Today I told him no several times because of his bad choices. I'm really hoping that this stuff starts sinking in soon.
It's possible. She does let the kids run her over all the time. Her discipline is basically non-existent. Of course, without his sister around, grandma might be able to get Luke to listen to her.
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"Decisions being good or bad, and not the person being good or bad" is, I mean, the right thing to do and very important. It's just also like.... tangential to your problems, I feel.
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So I finally caved on getting Ellie a blind bag type toy, we got her 2 magic color reveal barbies.
The absolute fucking elated JOY on her face when she opened the courier bag, and the fact that she's now playing with them in her own little world and everything is worth it.
The whole "omg mommy i need to complete the whole set!" that I was expecting, and it happened is *less* cool.
But i'll go with the absolute JOY right now. and deal with the "shiny shiny shiny" later.
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That being said, Athena dunking any food she's been given into water before eating it like some kind of raccoon is WRONG and I'm trying my best to break that habit.
But by simply not giving the boy any snacks when he comes home, he is a billion percent more likely to actually eat the dinner we present to him
Our ridiculous child came home from daycare yesterday, had a screaming jag / tantrum, went to bed and crashed out asleep.
Waiting for when he woke up starving from missing dinner was agonising.
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which is why when ellie gets home from school she gets a cold dinner. cucumber, cheese, crackers/pretzels, and some lunch meat.
I hold off the witching hour hangry meltdown, and she gets something vaguely healthy.
some nights, that's all she'll eat. Others, she'll then come have a warm dinner with us. Especially if it's roasted chicken, or salmon.
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He was prepped for this at daycare, but we had about a month between him finishing daycare and school starting, so I think he forgot.
And our little dude turned one. Somehow, I have 2 kids whose age can be reported in years now.
Our boy is one tomorrow, and it feels like forever and an eyeblink. I don’t even know how we got here.
Incidentally, thank you, thread, you all have helped more than you know.
(I was all for packing the goblin off tomorrow to daycare, but was overruled!)
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Like, the other night at dinner, Ellie was chatting along as she always does but then I blinked and suddenly, the hand movements and body movements were suddenly just so much older than they were the second before. And nothing about her really changed, just i suddenly/finally noticed another "baby/toddler" motion had disappeared. Or a word that she used to struggle with is suddenly clear. Or the legs that just keep getting longer and suddenly she can reach the buttons on the microwave.
Just the weirdest feeling of time moving ever on and then suddenly the brain going "hold up that kid is older than she was 2 weeks ago".
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I noticed that with Little King's running. His legs are longer, but he is also more athletic: there's a bounce in his step and a focus on his face to accelerate and avoid obstacles.
Don't gotta ask me twice to play Alien, Athena! Unless you ask for the movie in which case I would probably say no, you're only 3.
this is how it is with my littlest cousin
I'll be talking to him and look over and realize he's standing casually and talking and gesturing like an adult and I'm just like "oh geez, you're a human."
still talks incessantly about Fortnite, but whatever.
I also call him buddy, boo, and dude, because he's a sweet kid.
I also call him mischief and gremlin because . . . quod erat demonstrandum.
Bad news: This has increased the amount of interactions I have with strangers about 20,000%
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Working together with the school for a solid plan is a great step, good luck!
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It happened with “plane” a few weeks ago, “jelly” and “wobble” last week and today it just happened with “apple”, “bus”, “cake”, and “seat”. Calling Bodhi “bah-DEE” instead of “bo-bo.” Using request/command words appropriately, like “come”. Repeating words we say perfectly.
I feel like I’m surprised every time I read a familiar book with her, and she points to something that I’ve never bothered to name, and then just names it.
This brain expansion is of course paired with real Big Feelings which is no fun at all, but I try to remember that it’s a package deal and is what’s supposed to be happening, and that makes things a bit easier all round.
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And yes, he says "mum" flawlessly.
He has other situational words, but he's almost 5 and at this point I just let whatever he's going to say be it, for the most part. Which actually makes for funny things, like: I lay down with him to snuggle him to sleep (because otherwise he won't actually go to sleep, he's wound up so much), and the other night out of nowhere he said, "key-shees" (kissies) and I asked him how many, and he was quiet, so I said "do you need one kissy, or two kissies?" and he held his hands up, both as fists, and then started counting, "won, doo, free, foe-uh, fibe, zeex, zeben, aight, nin, den" while holding up each finger one after the other, and then grinned like a hyena. He knew exactly what he was requesting, and when I made sure by asking, "you need ten kissies?" he responded with an even bigger grin and a loud "yee-ush!"
See, this is why I find it so funny, having my ideas of communication challenged by this kid. I know he gets it. He's got the thought up there. And I know he recognizes words, or at least that letters make words and there's certain words he's more interested in than others. He's just not specifically inclined to say anything at all. It's almost like he's thinking "I've already had the thought, I've already told myself, why isn't that good enough?" and I have to day, I do understand that thought process. Like, he's non-verbal almost because he doesn't understand that we can't hear what he just thought. I've asked him a question before and he'll narrow his eyes and stare at me like he's going to bore holes in my skull, which is when I say "I can't hear your thoughts, dude", and he then proceeds to reach for my hand with a sigh to get me up to drag me to "the thing".
He still surprises me, though. The other day I was helping him drink water and he hit the cup because he didn't want any more water, and it got all over him, and in a fit of sadness he looked down and suddenly spouted, "oh no, I'mb all itcky!" and then instantly began to take his wet clothes off. He is my funny little dude.
He's been under the weather today again and has started getting a bit of a temp.
If he gets sick again and we have to cancel all our plans I'll lose my mind.
…now I want to know how how else you’d say it!
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Not that you asked me, but my guy hasn't said that one, no. At least not yet.
But as he was falling off his mom's lap one night, he reached out to catch himself and whispered, "shit!".
And he's also muttered "gotdanit" when one of his block towers tipped over.
I'm sure there's been other instances I haven't heard.
but instead of doing 'toot' she will just go "STINK"
and it can be either butt stink or foot stink, but you will get stinked at some point and it is *hilllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaarious*
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Eldest (C) woke up 2am Thursday night and threw up everywhere. Completely emptied his stomach, all over his bed, floor, beanbag and a few books. That meant C had to miss out of the last day of school term, which he was looking forward to (they do a colour funrun). So he was sick and sad all day.
And last night, the youngest (O) wakes up at about the same time and YEP, spews all over the bed. And then, we bring him into our bed after cleaning up, and he.... spews over our bed, including down a gap between the mattress and bed frame.
He has spewed a few times since, including just now down the hallway, although this was just water and iceblocks.
Definately gastro come home from school.
Now my wife and I have to cross all our fingers and toes that we're not next.
I avoided mono my entire childhood and early adulthood and our daughter got infected with it probably a week before daycare shut down for COVID back in march 2020. Once I caught it, I was sick as a dog for nearly 8 full weeks. 0/10 would not recommend.
It is 3am
Yay.
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Pray for me.