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[2020 ELECTION] THREAD OF WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FORK

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Trump says he cancels, but he's just testing the waters. We all know he'll change his mind at least 3 times before the weekend.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    I was gonna post that picture of the sunken boat with a Trump flag but apparently that's a fake? Boo-urns.

  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Trump says he cancels, but he's just testing the waters. We all know he'll change his mind at least 3 times before the weekend.

    If Biden comes out with a statement along the lines of “well, I’ll be there” Trump wouldn’t be able to resist.

    He can’t stand anyone getting attention but him.

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    "I'm grateful that President Trump values his health and the health of his staff enough to avoid putting either at risk while he's recovering from COVID-19 and potentially still contagious. While it's unfortunate that this debate will be canceled, I look forward to using the time to communicate our vision for the country to the American people in other ways."

    Biden can call Trump a loser while complimenting him just fine.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Trump says he cancels, but he's just testing the waters. We all know he'll change his mind at least 3 times before the weekend.

    His base will love it as a show of ... power? negotiating? winning?

  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    Bless his heart.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    I was gonna post that picture of the sunken boat with a Trump flag but apparently that's a fake? Boo-urns.

    whatever picture you're seeing may be fake, but the story about the larger boats circling around and creating enough wake to sink the smaller boats absolutely happened

    and is maybe not the metaphor he means to evoke here given the "rising tide" analogy used to describe Reagonomics but

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Biden on Trump’s threat to skip the next debate: “We don’t know what the president’s going to do. He changes his mind every second.” https://t.co/pDucnlh9uZ
    Bloomberg reporter

    Absolutely spot on response. Calling him chickenshit is too on the nose but pointing to his unreliablity makes it more costly for Trump to reverse himself and reinforces a central narrative of Trump's unfitness

    PantsB on
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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    This sounds like we’re entering the “Dementia-riddled King George III” phase of governing

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    So the claim about Biden wanting to pull out of debates was definitely projection then

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Couscous wrote: »
    So the claim about Biden wanting to pull out of debates was definitely projection then

    just because it's always projection doesn't mean this time...

    what's that?

    this just in, we're hearing it's projection

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    The boat parades and his obsession with them are absurdly silly

    Like it is so obviously silly to anyone who is not fully onboard

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    The boat parades and his obsession with them are absurdly silly

    Like it is so obviously silly to anyone who is not fully onboard

    The irony sails right past him

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    The boat parades and his obsession with them are absurdly silly

    Like it is so obviously silly to anyone who is not fully onboard

    ahahaha

    nice

  • ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    He must be consulting with my uncle who doesn't see how Trump can lose based on all of the political signs he sees supporting Trump...in Southern Ohio.

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  • Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    This sounds like we’re entering the “Dementia-riddled King George III” phase of governing

    I wonder if we'll get some great, funny Trump songs in 240-ish years, a la Hamilton.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    Biden should respectfully day he understands and is sympathetic to Trump needing to reviver from covid

    You can take the high ground and still infuriate and destroy him

    That’s the route to go

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Atomika wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Haberman at NYT


    "I don't believe 'em," Trump says of the polls showing him losing, then points to the boat parades.

    Oh honey...

    This sounds like we’re entering the “Dementia-riddled King George III” phase of governing

    I wonder if we'll get some great, funny Trump songs in 240-ish years, a la Hamilton.

    in 240-ish years I hope he's remembered about as much as Franklin Pierce

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    The boat parades and his obsession with them are absurdly silly

    Like it is so obviously silly to anyone who is not fully onboard

    It's so obvious that all their internal polling sucks but he doesn't want to hear it. So they present him with something flattering to make him feel better. And now he's latched on to it.

    Just an absolute fucking child.

    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/08/us/harris-pence-trump-biden/trump-unleashes-barrage-of-attacks-in-interview-pulling-focus-from-vp-debate
    Mr. Trump also referred to the Democratic vice-presidential nominee as a “monster,” called the director of the F.B.I. “disappointing,” posited that he might have contracted the coronavirus from a member of a military family, maintained that he is almost off medical treatments for the coronavirus and complained about not being allowed to hold rallies while he remains in quarantine.

    “I don’t think I’m contagious at all,” Mr. Trump said, without citing evidence. Of his treatments, he insisted, “I think I’m taking almost nothing.” His doctor has not said how long he will remain on steroids.
    He maintained that he was barely on any medication and tried to downplay the seriousness of what he’d been taking, as well as the virus itself. After calling an experimental antibody cocktail that is still being studied a “cure,” Mr. Trump claimed he didn’t think he really needed to take medicine.

    “It’s not a heavy steroid,” Mr. Trump said of the heavy steroid he’s been taking, dexamethasone.

    And he theorized that he could have caught the virus from a relative of a fallen service member at a ceremony he hosted for Gold Star families.

    Mr. Trump said those relatives insisted on hugging him or thanking him. “I can’t back up and say, ‘give me room, one room, give me 12 feet, stay 12 feet away,’ when they come, they come within an inch of my face sometimes,” he said. “They want to hug me and they want to kiss me. And they do. And frankly, I’m not telling them to back up.”
    Christ, what an asshole

  • AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Data for Progress, a definitely D-leaning pollster with a B- rating has it 56-41 nationally with LVs. +18 in the RV screen but I am still calling that an outlier. Trump bowing out, if he does, doesn't help.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    shryke wrote: »
    It's really going to suck when the Lincoln Project turns their attention back to the left.

    Nah. Firstly it's questionable how effective they actually are at persuading voters.

    But secondly and more importantly, the same people staffing the Lincoln Project are already turning their attention to the Democrats and have been for as long as any of us have been alive. These fuckers are not some new power rising in the east. They are just the same shits who've been doing ad-work for Republicans since always, except this time they are attacking Trump. But the rest of their colleagues with ever so slightly less morals are still hard at work.

    I don’t think any of us are friends with the Lincoln Project. This is simply a means to oust a common enemy. Because Donald Trump is terrible at his job. Uniquely terrible. I didn’t like George Bush Sr. But he was competent. Competent in a terrible sort of way, but he knew what he was doing. His son had competent advisors. Trump is such a narcissist he fired the competent advisors for thugs and boot lickers.

    He has to go.
    The Lincoln Project are an enemy of my enemy situation at the moment. We aren’t going to win their hearts, we just want their votes in November.

    zepherin on
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    The entire interview is amazingly awful

    Vox reporter with video:
    "I'm back because I'm a perfect physician specimen," Trump claims, before falsely describing Regeneron as "a cure"

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    It's really going to suck when the Lincoln Project turns their attention back to the left.

    Nah. Firstly it's questionable how effective they actually are at persuading voters.

    But secondly and more importantly, the same people staffing the Lincoln Project are already turning their attention to the Democrats and have been for as long as any of us have been alive. These fuckers are not some new power rising in the east. They are just the same shits who've been doing ad-work for Republicans since always, except this time they are attacking Trump. But the rest of their colleagues with ever so slightly less morals are still hard at work.

    I don’t think any of us are friends with the Lincoln Project. This is simply a means to oust a common enemy. Because Donald Trump is terrible at his job. Uniquely terrible. I didn’t like George Bush Sr. But he was competent. Competent in a terrible sort of way, but he knew what he was doing. His son had competent advisors. Trump is such a narcissist he fired the competent advisors for thugs and boot lickers.

    He has to go.
    The Lincoln Project are an enemy of my enemy situation at the moment. We aren’t going to win their hearts, we just want their votes in November.

    Yes, I know and haven't argued differently. My point is that there's no fear of the Lincoln Project people turning on the left. They've always been attacking the left. It's where they came from before the Lincoln Project.

  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Data for Progress, a definitely D-leaning pollster with a B- rating has it 56-41 nationally with LVs. +18 in the RV screen but I am still calling that an outlier. Trump bowing out, if he does, doesn't help.

    I mean, this makes what, the fifth poll this week showing Biden at least +12? At some point it stops being an outlier and starts being, "Yeah, I guess Biden's lead has grown".

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    The entire interview is amazingly awful

    Vox reporter with video:
    "I'm back because I'm a perfect physician specimen," Trump claims, before falsely describing Regeneron as "a cure"

    A reminder that the “perfect physical specimen” is an obese elderly man with a diet of mostly fast food, that thinks exercise depletes the finite energy supply of the human body.

  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    OremLK wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Data for Progress, a definitely D-leaning pollster with a B- rating has it 56-41 nationally with LVs. +18 in the RV screen but I am still calling that an outlier. Trump bowing out, if he does, doesn't help.

    I mean, this makes what, the fifth poll this week showing Biden at least +12? At some point it stops being an outlier and starts being, "Yeah, I guess Biden's lead has grown".

    i'm just wary because of PTSD and that these polls are all starting to "correct" their models to emphasizing likely voters, which in a year when voting is completely different from any election that has come before it makes me unsure how "correct" that change is

    all of this is admittedly gut feeling though and could be entirely off base

    cautious optimism?

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The entire interview is amazingly awful

    Vox reporter with video:
    "I'm back because I'm a perfect physician specimen," Trump claims, before falsely describing Regeneron as "a cure"

    A reminder that the “perfect physical specimen” is an obese elderly man with a diet of mostly fast food, that thinks exercise depletes the finite energy supply of the human body.

    He's a eugenicist though, so he thinks he's got "good genes".

    I think his views on biology are probably the most undercovered vile and insane thing he talks about all the time. It's honestly shocking how badly the media does at showcasing all the ways in which he's a terrible human being.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/08/us/harris-pence-trump-biden/trump-unleashes-barrage-of-attacks-in-interview-pulling-focus-from-vp-debate
    Mr. Trump also referred to the Democratic vice-presidential nominee as a “monster,” called the director of the F.B.I. “disappointing,” posited that he might have contracted the coronavirus from a member of a military family, maintained that he is almost off medical treatments for the coronavirus and complained about not being allowed to hold rallies while he remains in quarantine.

    “I don’t think I’m contagious at all,” Mr. Trump said, without citing evidence. Of his treatments, he insisted, “I think I’m taking almost nothing.” His doctor has not said how long he will remain on steroids.
    He maintained that he was barely on any medication and tried to downplay the seriousness of what he’d been taking, as well as the virus itself. After calling an experimental antibody cocktail that is still being studied a “cure,” Mr. Trump claimed he didn’t think he really needed to take medicine.

    “It’s not a heavy steroid,” Mr. Trump said of the heavy steroid he’s been taking, dexamethasone.

    And he theorized that he could have caught the virus from a relative of a fallen service member at a ceremony he hosted for Gold Star families.

    Mr. Trump said those relatives insisted on hugging him or thanking him. “I can’t back up and say, ‘give me room, one room, give me 12 feet, stay 12 feet away,’ when they come, they come within an inch of my face sometimes,” he said. “They want to hug me and they want to kiss me. And they do. And frankly, I’m not telling them to back up.”
    Christ, what an asshole

    This is close to being well done in terms of how to write about Trump imo. This stuff is good:
    “I don’t think I’m contagious at all,” Mr. Trump said, without citing evidence.
    “It’s not a heavy steroid,” Mr. Trump said of the heavy steroid he’s been taking, dexamethasone.
    Now just outright call him a liar a few times near the start too in order to establish what we're talking about.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    It is also important to directly quote trump because trying to summarize it will make it sound less silly.

    CNN reporter:
    Trump asked why the polls show him trailing: “I don’t know, I don’t understand it, I don’t believe them. I don’t believe the polls. Because we’ve never had this much support. They have a boat thing, they have 5,000 boats. They have thousands of trucks all over the country.”

  • wobblyheadedbobwobblyheadedbob Registered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The entire interview is amazingly awful

    Vox reporter with video:
    "I'm back because I'm a perfect physician specimen," Trump claims, before falsely describing Regeneron as "a cure"

    A reminder that the “perfect physical specimen” is an obese elderly man with a diet of mostly fast food, that thinks exercise depletes the finite energy supply of the human body.

    He also said he's "very young." :?

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Each boats counts as one hundred thousand votes, everybody knows that.

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Get Out The Boat 2020

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    shryke wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The entire interview is amazingly awful

    Vox reporter with video:
    "I'm back because I'm a perfect physician specimen," Trump claims, before falsely describing Regeneron as "a cure"

    A reminder that the “perfect physical specimen” is an obese elderly man with a diet of mostly fast food, that thinks exercise depletes the finite energy supply of the human body.

    He's a eugenicist though, so he thinks he's got "good genes".

    I think his views on biology are probably the most undercovered vile and insane thing he talks about all the time. It's honestly shocking how badly the media does at showcasing all the ways in which he's a terrible human being.

    Not even his call for the prosecution of his political opponent is going to get much coverage.


    "Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes -- the greatest political crime in history of our country -- then we'll get little satisfaction ... and that includes Obama and that includes Biden" -- Trump calls for Obama and Biden to be charged with crimes
    As Maria Bartiromo tries to end the interview, Trump yells out of nowhere, "why isn't Hillary Clinton being indicted?!"

    Couscous on
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Marathon wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The entire interview is amazingly awful

    Vox reporter with video:
    "I'm back because I'm a perfect physician specimen," Trump claims, before falsely describing Regeneron as "a cure"

    A reminder that the “perfect physical specimen” is an obese elderly man with a diet of mostly fast food, that thinks exercise depletes the finite energy supply of the human body.

    He also said he's "very young." :?

    I know we don’t give him any benefit of the doubt but it was obvious to me watching it that he was making a joke

  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    The debate seems like an event that had theoretical possibility to change the vector they're on. Without it I don't understand what they intend to be doing considering the time left for november 3rd.

    Statistical possibilities exist but at least the people around Trump must understand it looks like they're heading toward a loss and don't seem to do anything to change it.

    Not to be alarmist but are they starting to look seriously at ways to invalidate the election result? It doesn't look like they're doing anything to change how the result turns out.

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Get Out The Boat 2020

    I mean if they want to go boating on Election Day I’m good with it

  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    The @FiveThirtyEight nat'l polling average with 26 days until E-Day:

    2020: Biden+9.8
    2016: Clinton+6.4
    2012: Romney+0.6
    2008: Obama+7.5
    2004: Bush+1.8
    2000: Bush+2.6
    1996: Clinton+13.4
    1992: Clinton+12.9
    1988: Bush+6.6
    1984: Reagan+19.8
    1980: Reagan+4.9
    1976: Carter+0.9
    538 guy

    Biden's national polling lead is only surpassed by the blowout elections in 92 96 and 84 in the modern polling era. It is also climbing pretty rapidly since more and more post debate and post diagnosis polling is coming in. That might fade but it might not.

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    I won't lie, I was kind of mad at whichever organization framed this as Trump's first "Post-COVID" interview. In no sane world is he out of the woods yet.

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Selner wrote: »
    klemming wrote: »
    If he pulls out, will they still do the 'debate' with just Biden answering questions unopposed?

    Also, Trump's complaining they're doing this to protect Biden. Yes, yes they are. They are trying to protect as many people as they can from your infectious disease cloud, you goose.

    I think this would be a nice thing to do, considering how Trump interrupted and stole so much of his time in the first debate. Just let Joe be on national television answering questions from "undecided" voters for 30-60m.

    Biden had that townhall the other night, which folks here were negative about but the press seemed to like. Just let him do that again, with a bigger national audience.

    It also ties into one of trump's attacks against hillary and biden with how they're both too sick/low energy to perform the role of president, but here you have a sitting president sick with the plague now refusing to participate in a debate ~an act which is basically unprecedented for a sitting president~.

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