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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Yeah, all the cool cyberpunk games are coming out this month.

    So next month can have the rotten garbage one take up all the press coverage.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    I'm on the fence about WD:L

    On the one hand, I absolutely loved WD2 and everything about it. On the other hand, nothing about this game looks like it's retained the expected charm of its predecessor.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    legion sounded cool at first but the most recent display of it really soured me, it looks kinda lame

    and i'm already at a point where i don't feel great about paying ubisoft for anything

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    H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    The core concept of Legion, playing as randomly generated people you recruit instead of bespoke characters, was designed specifically to make me not want to play the game.

    Also ya Ubisoft is a big yikes right now.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Also the idea that the evil mega corporation in the game used a social media algorithm to cause Brexit instead of it being the result of decades of complicated interconnect factors is just dumb as hell. Facebook and Twitter may have helped Brexit along, but they sure as shit didn't cause it with their engagement math.

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    PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    It doesn’t help as much for the PC side of things (or those that want digital libraries) but if you were wanting to play WD/AC/UbiSomething on console you could always buy a used disc. You get to play, and your purchase doesn’t give the corporation any extra money.

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    VeagleVeagle Registered User regular
    For PC, I'm pretty sure Legion and Valhalla are both on Ubi's subscription service at launch.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    I'm mad as hell. Let's play Borderlands 3 for the first time to cope.

    Edit - Just kidding my computer can't handle the game well.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I finally played a bit of rdr2 on pc

    That game is dang pretty

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Also the idea that the evil mega corporation in the game used a social media algorithm to cause Brexit instead of it being the result of decades of complicated interconnect factors is just dumb as hell. Facebook and Twitter may have helped Brexit along, but they sure as shit didn't cause it with their engagement math.

    For Game = $, then Politics = 0

    That's Ubisoft math baby

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    Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Perrsun wrote: »
    I tried DRG in early access and couldn’t get into it, but then some friends that had kept playing helped me see the reward loop, especially after lvl 25.

    for anybody that might be looking at it, here’s what you’d be working towards, which I didn’t initially know about:

    - You’ll do your regular Assignments and missions to get money and minerals and XP.
    - Hitting lvl 25 on any character gives you a Promotion Assignment. (You also stop getting XP at 25, so do your promotion missions on a different character). Once you promote a character you get access to a few extra-fun things:
    - Deep Dives. These are kind of like raids. 3 missions in a row without coming back to the base to restock, so you’re completely dependent on the Nitra you find to call in resupplies. Deep Dives reward you with cosmetics and Overclocks.
    - Overclocks. Weapon mods beyond the ones you get as you level up. Clean over clocks give you a slight boost with no downfall. Balanced give you a big benefit at the cost of something else. Unstable changes a big aspect of your gun (e.g. your Gunner’s minigun loses a lot of accuracy... but also your bullets bounce off of walls... or your Engineer’s grenade launcher loses a ton of ammo... but now it shoots nukes that leave an AoE behind).
    - Core Hunt. A weekly Assignment set that rewards cosmetics and Overclocks.

    Once I opened up the Overclock system (and I REALLY opened up the rate at which you can obtain cosmetics) that’s where I had the most fun. Now I keep playing to see what new Overclocks I can get, or new beards/mustaches (lip beards)/sideburns (cheek beards) I get.

    I have over 250 hours in Deep Rock and it's still enjoyable. I do have most of the overclock's and cosmetics though, which slowed me down. But for those coming back, a big content patch just came out with 2 new mission types that should energize me back for a bit. If you can get a couple friends, it can be pretty relaxing in a way.

    I'm still waiting for them to add in limited ammo heavy weapon drops. Get enough X and call down a shoulder mounted missile launcher for the gunner, or a giant 2 handed drill for the driller. Once they are out of ammo they drop to the ground and that's it. Throw in some new boss type monsters and you have a great content update.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I've only played a bit with some friends, but I had a good time

    Early on it's pretty slow to make progress thouggh it feels like

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    The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    Deep rocks slow and fine and at least when I played it does not like it not following it's rules which is a problem when you can build holes down to be no where

    It isn't like a problem but you have to realize what the game is looking for before you can really get in to it

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Defend America from alternate-universe America is an amazing pitch

    Fuck man I'm trying but my vote only counts for so much.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    I finally played a bit of rdr2 on pc

    That game is dang pretty

    Have you accidentally shot someone you're trying to talk to and/or punched your own horse yet?

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    SE++ BATTLETECH
    Laconis system

    We have reached something of a company inflection point. With a second combat-ready Heavy added to our lance, we have effectively moved to a whole new weight division, and as a result our missions feature less bullshit and more curbstomping light mechs for wealth and profit. Our pilot roster, too, is more experienced, with many of our Mechwarriors gaining or on the cusp of attaining their third skill ability.

    In fact, now might be an opportune time to cover our roster and everyones role and expertise in the company:

    Pilots:
    Commander Xero is the company's combat leader, a lead-from-the-front, thick-of-the-fight commander. When not in the medbay, they usually are found anchoring the team's lance, drawing fire and punching holes in the oppostion forces.
    Role: Assault Mech: smof Skills: Guts / Gunnery Abilities: Bulwark, Multiattack, Coolant Vent

    @Baidol is our most experienced and skilled pilot, essentially because they're mostly hanging around in the rearguard and therefore don't spend as much time in medbay. To date they have usually been providing long-range fire support piloting Munkus Beaver, however during this tour on Laconis he was the first of the squad to achieve Called Shot Mastery, just as commander Xero headed back into medbay again. This allowed the team to attain all-new levels of salvage with him in control in Smof, and he is now probably quite keen on some of the company's newly acquired heavy mechs.
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    MAD-3R Mechslinger duel, and it's high noon.
    Role: Ranged Support Mech: Munkus Beaver* / smof Skills: Tactics / Gunnery Abilities: Bulwark, Multiattack, Breaching Shot

    @3clipse is our first-choice forward mobile flanker and skirmisher, making extensive use of jump jets to control the engagement range in milski. Their excellent mobility means they are expert at getting into flanking positions and are capable of jumping in to deliver knockout blows before jumping away to safety again.
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    While not as mobile as he is in milski, @3clipse can also tear strips of enemy mechs when piloting something heavier like Tofystedeth.
    Role: Skirmisher Mech: milski Skills: Piloting / Gunnery Abilities: Multiattack, Sure footing, Ace Pilot

    @I Zimbra is usually found in the fastest mech on the field, where evasion and intelligence are the stock-in-trade. While they might lack the armament to go toe-to-toe with the big stompys, their ability to mark targets is crucial to the teams success, and they have enough sting to be capable of a coup-de-grace or wrecking havok on opposition vehicles.
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    @I Zimbra is particularly good at driving a whole damn 35 ton mech into any holes punched in an oppostion mech's armour.
    Role: Scout Mech: Jenner / Tamin Skills: Piloting / Gunnery Abilities: Sure footing, Sensor Lock, Ace Pilot

    @Brolo has been the team supersub; a competent allrounder comfortable stepping into any role vacated through injury or death. Equally capable of providing ranged fire support from distance as he is in an agile forward role, Brolo can carve armour off enemies from all angles and his presence in the team provides the kind of deep bench that you need to thrive and survive on prolonged deployments.
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    Good Mechwarrior; probably don't want to put him in charge of procurement, though.
    Role: All-rounder Mech: milski / Munkus Beaver / Tamin Skills: All Abilities: Multiattack, Sure footing

    @Sprout has slowly moved further back in the field over time, starting in the company as another forward scout but slowly developing a valuable and accurate punch capable of stripping limbs and armaments off of enemy mechs. Their preferred tactic is to find somewhere high and flanking, but it is not unknown to find them in closer ranges, especially in the later stages of an engagement.
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    Decisions, decisions.
    Role: Sharpshooter Mech: Munkus Beaver / smof Skills: Tactics / Gunnery Abilities: Bulwark, Sensor Lock, Master Tactician

    We also had two new additions to the roster in Laconis:

    @YaYa was hired as a straight replacement for @Der Waffle Mous, intended to take the role of melee brawler, for which he was placed as pilot in the newly refitted Thunderbolt 'Tofystedeth', where upon he was immediately shot in the head 3 times during his very first mission, the first before he had even managed to engage the enemy himself. With one mission completed, his foreseeable tenure with the company will likely be experiencing the next 2-3 system deployments from the inside of medbay.
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    Not In The Face, Not In The Face!
    Role: Target practice Mech: Medbay gurney Skills: Guts / Pilot Abilities: Bulwark, Sure footing

    @Zonugal was acquired as further backup for our vanguard forces in the wake of continued attrition to our frontline mechwarriors. A grizzled veteran with extensive technical knowledge of the functioning of a jumpship, the face of a sea captain, and who refers to command as 'skipper', he is relentless, fearless, and dogged in the face of the enemy, his short period with the company marked by his constant harrassment and pursuit of enemy forces.
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    Ripping the (other) arm off an opposition Phoenixhawk.
    Role: Scout Mech: Tamin / Tofystedeth Skills: Piloting / Tactics Abilities: Sure footing, Sensor Lock

    The core of our unit is now competent and balanced, meaning Laconis becomes something of a happy Heavy hunting ground, filling in the gaps in our company's tactical capabilities.
    Mechs:
    Our current line up of combat-ready mechs includes:

    Jenner JR7-D: Dependable fast scout. Lacks significant punch, but has more speed and jump jets than anything else in the lineup.

    Wolverine 6R: Built as an SRM brawler, this mech was almost immediately superceded. With more suitable brawler chassis coming online and facing increasingly heavier enemy mechs, this is now more of an armoured scout equipped with a powerful alpha strike, but is likely to be retired for something more powerful in the not too distant future.

    Firestarter FS9-H @Tamin: We have two Firestarter mechs, the luckier of which has been nicknamed @Tamin (it has only lost 2 limbs and no pilots). Highly mobile and armed with a powerful array of support weapons, it is our preferred light scout mech and is capable of delivering a nasty punch to enemy mechs with exposed weakpoints in their armour.

    Thunderbolt-5SE @Tofystedeth: Laconis system is the first deployment for this Thunderbolt, one of my favourite brawler mechs. Armed with as many MLs and SRMs as we can fit and armour to match, this big stompy robot can weather taking multiple attacks as it closes to its preferred range, before finishing opponents off with melee and support weapons. Named @Tofystedeth in honor of both its big claws and memorial of its intended pilot, @Der Waffle Mous, this big guy performs excellently in its first tour, engaging and taking down multiple mechs in close combat.

    Enforcer 4R @milski: Still an effective performer at this level, milski is an effective balance of mobility, armour and armament. Excellent for hit-and-fade and flanking strategies, using superior mobility to control the battlefield.

    Vindicator 1R @Munkus Beaver: The venerable Vindicator is slowly losing effectiveness as we face bigger and heavier mechs, but the PPC can still punch through smaller mechs and disrupt bigger ones so it hasn't been retired just yet, although it is being increasingly deployed as an anti-scout light-mech killer rather than one of the core damage-dealers of the lance it used to be.

    Marauder 3R Smof: The headhunter. Easily the most deadly of our current lineup, smof is at the core of our recent elevated success, including multiple salvage acquisitions here on Laconis while piloted by @Baidol, including a Shadowhawk, Phoenixhawk, Warhammer, Archer-2S, and an additional Marauder-3R.

    The first of these to be readied for action in our next tour will be the Archer-2S, filling the much-needed combat role of lance missile boat. The mechtechs have already affectionately christened this mech "Ironknuckle", and it is expected to be ready before we reach our next planned deployment.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Oh my God Brolo fell for the old “the coke is actually powdered baby aspirin” con

    Except he didn’t even get the baby aspirin

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Aw yeah, headhunter. I love biting people's heads off. Which is what I assume that means

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    The lack of any Catapults is most disappointing.

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Glal wrote: »
    The lack of any Catapults is most disappointing.

    I have encountered only 1 so far in the entire career to date and didn't get any of it as salvage (that was the mission where we acquired the Thunderbolt now known as Tofystedeth and I really needed a frontline brawler).

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    By the time you encounter enough Catapults to salvage you’ve probably already got a better, heavier missile boat.

    Downside to infinite weight per mission you’re generally not going to field a Catapult.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Why you gotta do me like that?

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    I'm exceedingly happy as a Firestarter mech, that sounds great.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
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    https://www.techspot.com/review/2124-geforce-rtx-3070/

    the 3070 is really impressive at $500

    can't wait to see what intel and amd pull out to compete, should cause prices to actually be competitive this generation

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Yeah I think I'm gonna be perfectly happy with a 3070, though I'll want to grab a new monitor first probably

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Yeah I think I'm gonna be perfectly happy with a 3070, though I'll want to grab a new monitor first probably

    yeah it's sort of a waste if you're not running 1440p and over 60hz

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    I'm up to Orzammar on my DA Origins playthrough. I remember this being a slog? The deep roads, specifically. Like there was one too many maps of it.

    Even Haven, which I just did, was more than I remembered. In my head it was a few cultists and then you see the High Dragon. But it's actually two full maps of cultists, then you see the high dragon (which is an optional fight, depending) then the puzzle section before you get the Ashes.

    Anyways, in Orzammar, I'm tempted to support the seemingly-bad guy this time around. I supported Harrowmont all those years ago and I remember getting the surprise bad(ish) ending for the dwarves. There were supposedly hints but so far I'm not seeing any.

    A properly kitted-out dual wield rogue is a complete nightmare of a character. I kill any standard enemy in like 4 stabs, which come super fast thanks to my Momentum mode. And I'm pretty settled in on Alistair/Morrigan/Wynne, which is probably the best 3 companions? Wynne has all the heals, and now I have to find new spells for her to pick up. Morrigan has been grabbing all the Entropy spells to lock down and debuff badguys for me to stab more effectively, plus they're party-safe so I can let the AI cast them freely.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    yeah in DA: Origins you can win pretty much every fight in the game by just picking a mage, bringing Wynne and Morrigan, and then spamming AoE:

    Grease Fire:
    Grease + Any Fire Spell

    and then later on:

    Storm of the Century:
    Spell Might + Blizzard + Tempest

    with buffs to lightning damage, and using a stealth character to scout, you never have to actually fight anybody, and you can kill pretty much everybody before they can get close enough to engage your party

    honestly between the deep roads and the fade, dragon age origins was the most boring possible game for me

    and between my disappoint in that and my frustrations with ME1, I pretty much stopped playing bioware games altogether



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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Manage a Dwarven mining colony in the unexplored mountains of Mara. As a war rages in the Overworld, you will need to craft, explore and fight as you provide your allies with the finest weapons and gear to assist in the war against evil.
    20201007 Hammerting (dwarf fortress-like, mining, management, simulation, real-time, dwarves)




    Ghostrunner offers a unique single-player experience: fast-paced, violent combat, and an original setting that blends science fiction with post-apocalyptic themes. It tells the story of a world that has already ended and its inhabitants who fight to survive.
    20201027 Ghostrunner (action, first-person, insta-death, cyberpunk, parkour)

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Defend America from alternate-universe America is an amazing pitch

    Is alternate-universe America just this universe's America

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Ghostrunner looks rad and I look forwards to playing it in an hour.

    Ghostrunner already sucks because it's going to be another game where any talk about it is tainted by fucking 'git gud' cretins conveying the exact energy as a 15 year old telling a class mate they listen to music no one would understand.

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    yeah in DA: Origins you can win pretty much every fight in the game by just picking a mage, bringing Wynne and Morrigan, and then spamming AoE:

    Grease Fire:
    Grease + Any Fire Spell

    and then later on:

    Storm of the Century:
    Spell Might + Blizzard + Tempest

    with buffs to lightning damage, and using a stealth character to scout, you never have to actually fight anybody, and you can kill pretty much everybody before they can get close enough to engage your party

    honestly between the deep roads and the fade, dragon age origins was the most boring possible game for me

    and between my disappoint in that and my frustrations with ME1, I pretty much stopped playing bioware games altogether

    As I recall, the initial pitch for DA:O was "Bioware goes back to the isometric RPG". It came out in 2009, their last one prior had been NWN in 2003, or Throne of Bhaal in 2001. In the meantime they had done KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect.

    I seem to recall that crowd being pretty pleased with it? Certainly these types of games were thin on the ground in 2009. No more D&D or Forgotten Realms, which was good and bad. Spell combos were a unique thing, I know that. It does show signs of some of the simplification that most RPGs, certainly most of the AAA ones, have undergone. Only 3 classes. Ability points and trees, rather than feats and spell selections. A behind the back camera option. Party size of 4 instead of 6. It's interesting to come back to it having played Pillars 1 & 2, later Dragon Age games, and other similar stuff.

    I also had a hankerin' for some real crunchy character creation so I fired up Icewind Dale 2. The lack of a Beamdog version is real rough on the resolution and UI. And I had forgotten it was 3.0 (or 3.5?) D&D. So you've got feats and skill points. But it's great brain work to come up with a good party of 6 that has all the stuff you want. It's the only IE game I never beat. And I don't know if I'll stick with it, we'll see. I've done that beginning part way too many times already.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    I finally played a bit of rdr2 on pc

    That game is dang pretty

    Have you accidentally shot someone you're trying to talk to and/or punched your own horse yet?

    I think I shot Micah when we were riding off to do that train robbery at the beginning.

    ... I shoulda finished the job

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Manage a Dwarven mining colony in the unexplored mountains of Mara. As a war rages in the Overworld, you will need to craft, explore and fight as you provide your allies with the finest weapons and gear to assist in the war against evil.
    20201007 Hammerting (dwarf fortress-like, mining, management, simulation, real-time, dwarves)

    This is giving me Dungeon Keeper vibes even though the comparison is a little off.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    captaink wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    yeah in DA: Origins you can win pretty much every fight in the game by just picking a mage, bringing Wynne and Morrigan, and then spamming AoE:

    Grease Fire:
    Grease + Any Fire Spell

    and then later on:

    Storm of the Century:
    Spell Might + Blizzard + Tempest

    with buffs to lightning damage, and using a stealth character to scout, you never have to actually fight anybody, and you can kill pretty much everybody before they can get close enough to engage your party

    honestly between the deep roads and the fade, dragon age origins was the most boring possible game for me

    and between my disappoint in that and my frustrations with ME1, I pretty much stopped playing bioware games altogether

    As I recall, the initial pitch for DA:O was "Bioware goes back to the isometric RPG". It came out in 2009, their last one prior had been NWN in 2003, or Throne of Bhaal in 2001. In the meantime they had done KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect.

    I seem to recall that crowd being pretty pleased with it? Certainly these types of games were thin on the ground in 2009. No more D&D or Forgotten Realms, which was good and bad. Spell combos were a unique thing, I know that. It does show signs of some of the simplification that most RPGs, certainly most of the AAA ones, have undergone. Only 3 classes. Ability points and trees, rather than feats and spell selections. A behind the back camera option. Party size of 4 instead of 6. It's interesting to come back to it having played Pillars 1 & 2, later Dragon Age games, and other similar stuff.

    I also had a hankerin' for some real crunchy character creation so I fired up Icewind Dale 2. The lack of a Beamdog version is real rough on the resolution and UI. And I had forgotten it was 3.0 (or 3.5?) D&D. So you've got feats and skill points. But it's great brain work to come up with a good party of 6 that has all the stuff you want. It's the only IE game I never beat. And I don't know if I'll stick with it, we'll see. I've done that beginning part way too many times already.

    yeah Dragon Age was originally supposed to be a PC title that was being worked on after NWN2, but by then the PC market had shrunk considerably as consoles had grown

    it's a bit simplified when compared to the stat-fests that were the Infinity Engine games, and some of those things made it generally easier to play - you don't have to understand THAC0 and Spell Saves to create an effective character.

    but really the thing that just let it down was just a lack of imagination - darkspawn were not compelling villains but you spend most of the game fighting them, the gather factions sidequest structure ultimately don't make a big difference to the story, a lot of the binary "tough choices" they force you into just feels like bad writing rather than compelling conflicts, the environments were visually bland, the setting for the first game hints at a more interesting world but then ends up being a pretty bog-standard elf/dwarf/human generic-european-medieval fantasy setting, with most of the accompanying tropes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZeo9IkJgXY

    by the time I had gotten to the deep roads I had more-or-less had my fill of it, by the time I had completed the deep roads I was exasperated with it, and pushing myself to get to the ending just left me with a strong dislike for most of the decisions that Bioware had made throughout

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    PeasPeas Registered User regular
    Hammerting seems like something extremely up my jam, hope it's good

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    Yeah whenever I look at the DA wiki, the various choices and outcomes take up a lot of space. That had to have been a significant writing and design task. The possibility space for the ending has to be pretty massive. It's an interesting thing but I think they didn't get that complicated in the following 2 games for good reason. Even just playing it I get caught up in what I want to happen and I find I need to reel myself back and say "Do I care?".

    Maybe that's why the Darkspawn are such an uninspired bad guy. Probably the blandest Bioware badguy? I can't remember the NWN badguy so that might win by default. But NWN was kind of a proof-of-concept anyways, the campaign was an afterthought. Maybe Loghain should be considered the real villain, he's pretty interesting.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    The only thing I remember about Dragon Age was a burning need to utterly annihilate the Qun and probably the Chantry as well

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    The only thing I remember about Dragon Age was a burning need to utterly annihilate the Qun and probably the Chantry as well

    Dragon Age II is the game for you.

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