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[PC Build Thread] Nope, you still can't buy anything

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  • Idx86Idx86 Long days and pleasant nights.Registered User regular
    Right on, thanks folks. I subscribed to PCMR on Reddit and the set ups are generating some envy. Can't wait to get started soon'ish.

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Oh good, I had the 3080 vision combo in my cart again and Newegg totally randomly decided to require me to re-type my full CC number and CV even though both are saved in my profile on their stupid fucking shit ass website

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    Mvrck wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I'm really surprised Microcenter hasn't expanded in to the PNW yet. If there was on even as close as Seattle, I'd order parts there and make a train day trip of it. Portland to Seattle is a really relaxing trip and not overly expensive.

    Yeah, all we have is the sad husk of Frye's.

    The Frye's here isn't even in Portland, it's like halfway to Salem in a little town called Wilsonville. I get the same vibe when I walk in to Fry's as I do when I walk in to a mid-grade casino: Stale desperation.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Woohoo ordered an XC3 Ultra 3080

    Aaaaaaaand it's gone

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    That sucks :( Cyberpunk releasing today is likely not helping as people are feeling even worse FOMO to get a card, pushing scalping prices, leading to more bots, etc.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit 4.5 MV of POWER! Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    That sucks :( Cyberpunk releasing today is likely not helping as people are feeling even worse FOMO to get a card, pushing scalping prices, leading to more bots, etc.

    Which increases the amount of time it will take for stock to normalize, increasing bots and scalping.

    It’s a cycle that feeds itself and completely unsurprising considering the year.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Over here on the Radeon side of purchasing things, we see the same problems as everywhere else except........ 1/8th the drop frequency, and when there are drops they're either tiny or BB tells you there's none in your area.

    Given that AMD doesn't seem very interested in making graphics cards currently I've found myself toggling all the 3080 notifications. Here's hoping that I still get a 6800 (xt or no) but at this point I'll take a 3080 if I can.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    @Soggybiscuit thanks for the suggestion of the DS1621+! I've got it setup with 4x4 TB drives that have literally been collecting dust for the last 18 months + 1 10 TB drive that was my travel drive (and so has nothing unique on it). Got it all set up in SHR and now starting to copy stuff over. The 4 drive version I would have had to wait for another 10 TB to arrive before being able to transfer everything in earnest.

    UI on it seems pretty slick and easy to use. A+, would overspend on NAS again.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited December 2020
    Thawmus wrote: »
    Over here on the Radeon side of purchasing things, we see the same problems as everywhere else except........ 1/8th the drop frequency, and when there are drops they're either tiny or BB tells you there's none in your area.

    Given that AMD doesn't seem very interested in making graphics cards currently I've found myself toggling all the 3080 notifications. Here's hoping that I still get a 6800 (xt or no) but at this point I'll take a 3080 if I can.

    The bigger issue with the Radeon cards are that the fab process for them, and the locations doing that process, are also doing PS5, XBSX, and Ryzen chips.

    It's good stuff, but nowhere near enough output to meet demand across all of that.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    Over here on the Radeon side of purchasing things, we see the same problems as everywhere else except........ 1/8th the drop frequency, and when there are drops they're either tiny or BB tells you there's none in your area.

    Given that AMD doesn't seem very interested in making graphics cards currently I've found myself toggling all the 3080 notifications. Here's hoping that I still get a 6800 (xt or no) but at this point I'll take a 3080 if I can.

    The bigger issue with the Radeon cards are that the fab process for them, and the locations doing that process, are also doing PS5, XBSX, and Ryzen chips.

    It's good stuff, but nowhere near enough output to meet demand across all of that.

    I mean I get that but getting that isn't letting me exchange my money for a card so I don't care.

    Found out that Valve pushed an update to Proton so that Cyberpunk would be playable day 1 on Linux, but....you gotta have a Radeon card, for now, to do it.

    *Slowly toggles all the 3080 notes back off*

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Oh also fuck Newegg yet again, dropping 6800 stock at 1:30 AM. That's just bot feeding, fuck you Newegg.

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    Speaking of 6800's, I've been window shopping for parts for a 2004 era Win2K box. The sort of machine I built with my internship money back when Doom 3 was coming out. Man, the Geforce 6800 was a hell of a card. I eventually destroyed mine overclocking it too hard.

    2004 is a weird time to target, because you have both AGP and PCI-E, and on the Athlon 64 side you have Socket 754 and Socket 939. I think at the time I had a Socket 754 build, so that's probably what I'll go with again, despite the platform being more of a dead end in 2004 than 939 was.

    It's also funny because Geforce 6800's are most plentiful in AGP, but then you go up a year and 7800's are most plentiful in PCI-E. With prices to match. Goes from $50 on ebay to $100+.

    It's especially funny that not a single complete system with an Athlon 64 is on ebay. I got all sorts of complete systems junking up my ebay searches when I was looking for old Pentium 233 MMX platforms. Really reminds you how badly Intel ratfucked AMD back when they arguably had the best chips in the early 00's.

  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Registered User regular
    I had a socket 939 Athlon 64. I wanna say it was this one:

    https://www.newegg.com/amd-athlon-64-3500/p/N82E16819103533

    Pretty sure I parted out that PC and sold it on hardforum after I got my Q6600

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    Hello! So just less than a week after I bought a new monitor and UPS, my 4 year old PC conked out, and I'm looking to replace some of the parts. (Not entirely sure which specific part broke (basic troubleshooting with friends online narrow it to either PSU or motherboard) but I do not have the know-how or the equipment to further find out, so I'll just replace em)

    I will be able to use a GTX 680 (long time loan from a buddy), plus reuse two sticks of 8gb ddr4 ram and the PC case. I have no plans of upgrading the video card, as I'm not really a player of the latest games, still content with 1080p, and I'm probably looking to just buy a mobo/proc, a new PSU, and an SSD, so is the budget range for either processor brand enough? I figure with the gtx 680 being so old it wouldn't be worth it to upgrade my parts too much if the vidcard is what's gonna bottleneck me.

  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    Ryzen 5 5600 is probably where you want to be. They are low supply, so another option is a Ryzen 5 3600 and replace it later. You should get a B550 motherboard

  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit 4.5 MV of POWER! Registered User regular
    Hello! So just less than a week after I bought a new monitor and UPS, my 4 year old PC conked out, and I'm looking to replace some of the parts. (Not entirely sure which specific part broke (basic troubleshooting with friends online narrow it to either PSU or motherboard) but I do not have the know-how or the equipment to further find out, so I'll just replace em)

    I will be able to use a GTX 680 (long time loan from a buddy), plus reuse two sticks of 8gb ddr4 ram and the PC case. I have no plans of upgrading the video card, as I'm not really a player of the latest games, still content with 1080p, and I'm probably looking to just buy a mobo/proc, a new PSU, and an SSD, so is the budget range for either processor brand enough? I figure with the gtx 680 being so old it wouldn't be worth it to upgrade my parts too much if the vidcard is what's gonna bottleneck me.

    That GPU will be a major bottleneck for even a 3 or 4 year old game at this point and it would surprise me if you could get 1080p/60 with settings beyond medium-low. Even something like a GTX1650 Super is going to stomp that card hard in every way. What is your budget? You could maybe get those items for ~$500 for quality hardware (ie not the cheapest).

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Registered User regular
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    Namrok wrote: »
    Speaking of 6800's, I've been window shopping for parts for a 2004 era Win2K box. The sort of machine I built with my internship money back when Doom 3 was coming out. Man, the Geforce 6800 was a hell of a card. I eventually destroyed mine overclocking it too hard.

    2004 is a weird time to target, because you have both AGP and PCI-E, and on the Athlon 64 side you have Socket 754 and Socket 939. I think at the time I had a Socket 754 build, so that's probably what I'll go with again, despite the platform being more of a dead end in 2004 than 939 was.

    It's also funny because Geforce 6800's are most plentiful in AGP, but then you go up a year and 7800's are most plentiful in PCI-E. With prices to match. Goes from $50 on ebay to $100+.

    It's especially funny that not a single complete system with an Athlon 64 is on ebay. I got all sorts of complete systems junking up my ebay searches when I was looking for old Pentium 233 MMX platforms. Really reminds you how badly Intel ratfucked AMD back when they arguably had the best chips in the early 00's.

    If you're looking for a good AGP card, there's decent chance I still have a retired Geforce 7800GS AGP card sitting in a box around here somewhere. I'll take a look this weekend and if I do, it's yours if you want it.

    That card was my last desperate attempt to get playable framerates in Oblivion with all the eyecandy before I could afford to upgrade to that there newfangled PCI-eeeee stuff. :lol:

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Not seeing official documentation for it, but it sounds like Newegg is no longer honoring returns of single items out of combo deals for video cards. Buyer beware.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    FYI for all trying to buy cards right now:

    Falcodrin just updated everyone on stream that the Newegg combos no longer allow you to return the combo item.

    He was letting us know since 6800's were dropping a little this morning and Newegg is going to be putting 6800 combos up soon. 3080 combo purchasers started running into this today, so BEWARE.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Registered User regular
    That's bullshit.

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
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  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit 4.5 MV of POWER! Registered User regular
    Well, looks like Microcenter will be the future purveyor of hardware for my builds. I'm not giving Newegg another damn cent.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    It is shitty but I was honestly shocked when people started doing it because I couldn't believe Newegg had ever allowed it. The whole point of the bundle deals is to move more products, for an upsell. If the upsell just gets returned what are you even doing? Just sell the cards outside of bundles.

    It's bullshit, right up there with GameStop's forced bundle buys on consoles....but I'm fairly sure it's legal and was kind of surprised NewEgg hadn't plugged the loophole before.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Well it's more than just shitty, it's handing more cards directly to scalpers. They're going to eat the cost of the bundle easily because their margins are so damn wide, and maybe even toss the combo item up on ebay at a discount just to move it.

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  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    Hello! So just less than a week after I bought a new monitor and UPS, my 4 year old PC conked out, and I'm looking to replace some of the parts. (Not entirely sure which specific part broke (basic troubleshooting with friends online narrow it to either PSU or motherboard) but I do not have the know-how or the equipment to further find out, so I'll just replace em)

    I will be able to use a GTX 680 (long time loan from a buddy), plus reuse two sticks of 8gb ddr4 ram and the PC case. I have no plans of upgrading the video card, as I'm not really a player of the latest games, still content with 1080p, and I'm probably looking to just buy a mobo/proc, a new PSU, and an SSD, so is the budget range for either processor brand enough? I figure with the gtx 680 being so old it wouldn't be worth it to upgrade my parts too much if the vidcard is what's gonna bottleneck me.

    That GPU will be a major bottleneck for even a 3 or 4 year old game at this point and it would surprise me if you could get 1080p/60 with settings beyond medium-low. Even something like a GTX1650 Super is going to stomp that card hard in every way. What is your budget? You could maybe get those items for ~$500 for quality hardware (ie not the cheapest).

    I've honestly made my peace with that (1080p w/ medium or lower) - the latest game I'm playing that requires some level of power is Street Fighter V, and I've been playing at 1600x900 only until I replace my monitor, and I've haven't bought any new game at day 1 in like forever.

    Not really sure if the budget translates, as I don't live in the US, but I'm looking to buy the mobo+proc+ssd+PSU for maybe under the equivalent of $500, $600 total? To compare, the price of a Ryzen 5 3600 here runs around $230-250. I'll probably consider finally upgrading graphics card only next year.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    It is shitty but I was honestly shocked when people started doing it because I couldn't believe Newegg had ever allowed it. The whole point of the bundle deals is to move more products, for an upsell. If the upsell just gets returned what are you even doing? Just sell the cards outside of bundles.

    It's bullshit, right up there with GameStop's forced bundle buys on consoles....but I'm fairly sure it's legal and was kind of surprised NewEgg hadn't plugged the loophole before.

    I'd posit they're greedy asswipes for bundling to begin with. The demand is incredibly high, you don't need to bundle.

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Yeah any bundling at this point just hurts legit consumers, they're being assholes doing this.

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  • SoggybiscuitSoggybiscuit 4.5 MV of POWER! Registered User regular
    They aren't bundling to stop bots, they are bundling to put up bigger sales numbers and move inventory no one buys. None of those combos have a thing in them I would have even considered aside from the GPU.


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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
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    Namrok wrote: »
    Speaking of 6800's, I've been window shopping for parts for a 2004 era Win2K box. The sort of machine I built with my internship money back when Doom 3 was coming out. Man, the Geforce 6800 was a hell of a card. I eventually destroyed mine overclocking it too hard.

    2004 is a weird time to target, because you have both AGP and PCI-E, and on the Athlon 64 side you have Socket 754 and Socket 939. I think at the time I had a Socket 754 build, so that's probably what I'll go with again, despite the platform being more of a dead end in 2004 than 939 was.

    It's also funny because Geforce 6800's are most plentiful in AGP, but then you go up a year and 7800's are most plentiful in PCI-E. With prices to match. Goes from $50 on ebay to $100+.

    It's especially funny that not a single complete system with an Athlon 64 is on ebay. I got all sorts of complete systems junking up my ebay searches when I was looking for old Pentium 233 MMX platforms. Really reminds you how badly Intel ratfucked AMD back when they arguably had the best chips in the early 00's.

    If you're looking for a good AGP card, there's decent chance I still have a retired Geforce 7800GS AGP card sitting in a box around here somewhere. I'll take a look this weekend and if I do, it's yours if you want it.

    That card was my last desperate attempt to get playable framerates in Oblivion with all the eyecandy before I could afford to upgrade to that there newfangled PCI-eeeee stuff. :lol:

    I believe I shall take you up on that.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    They aren't bundling to stop bots, they are bundling to put up bigger sales numbers and move inventory no one buys. None of those combos have a thing in them I would have even considered aside from the GPU.


    yeah but I can offer you a 3080 and this half eaten everything bagel covered in pocket lint for an extra $200 over MSRP?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Registered User regular
    It appears that the newegg thing was a system error and you can, in fact, return the extra item.

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    They aren't bundling to stop bots, they are bundling to put up bigger sales numbers and move inventory no one buys. None of those combos have a thing in them I would have even considered aside from the GPU.


    Eh, some of the zen 3 bundles weren't terrible

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    It appears that the newegg thing was a system error and you can, in fact, return the extra item.

    This was an emotional roller coaster.

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    It appears that the newegg thing was a system error and you can, in fact, return the extra item.

    This was an emotional roller coaster.

    Much like the experience of trying to buy a 3080!

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    It appears that the newegg thing was a system error and you can, in fact, return the extra item.

    This was an emotional roller coaster.

    Much like the experience of trying to buy a 3080!
    Nah, we could actually see this

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Oohhh, someone else is making a white 3080



    Zotac, but actually kind of fits the scheme instead of the Vision which... sorta fits?

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  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    Another upside, you probably actually have a shot with getting a Zotac

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    The regular Zotac Trinity OC is $30 more than the founders' edition and performs essentially identically, at slightly cooler speeds. I would... probably settle for a white version of it, if desperate enough.

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    edited December 2020
    Nice to see a white GPU. I gave up on doing a completely white internal build because at the time (and still somewhat today) white motherboards, GPU's and radiators have limited options.

    GnomeTank on
    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie Registered User regular
    My case, keyboard, and mouse are white. I'd love to match up the internals someday.

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
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