Jessica Walter Memorial [TV] Thread

Hacksaw

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1369347473706258438

POORO DID IT, Y'ALL!

Raijin Quickfoot

Has anyone watched The Flight Attendant yet? The premise sounds like it could be interesting

kaceyp

“kaceyp” wrote:

Finished rewatching Season 7 of Supernatural last night. I still think it's probably better than Season 6, but it still missed a lot of opportunities.

Dick Roman is great (and that's due largely to James Patrick Stuart just acing the performance), but I still don't really like the direction they went with the Leviathans.

Ancient, terrifying monsters locked away in Purgatory sounded great! But they kind of wound up being Demons+. They infiltrated society by replacing individuals and set about carrying out evil plans from their cunning boss. I guess I wanted them to be more alien, more of a force that just started ripping through everything.

It's probably a casualty of the show overall being so damn unimaginative when it comes to its monster design ("New monster, huh? How 'bout this. They look human. But give 'em scary teeth. Or claws. Maybe something with the eyes, I dunno.")

Update: Last night I had a dream in which Dick Roman and I went to a mall.

The trip there was bizarre but the important part is that I’m relatively sure that I was worried the entire time about being eaten.

Jimothy

So we knew that Superstore was ending this season, which is for the best since Amy left, but just yesterday it was announced that a Cheyenne and Bo spinoff is in development

I love Cheyenne and I mostly like Bo, so I'd at least check it out. I do kind of want to see Cheyenne's actor in a new role though

Lars

With the start of a new TV thread, and we're in a pandemic when most network shows are going on winter break, I was going to make a list of good shows to watch.

Unfortunately a bunch of shit I was going to list seems to no longer be on any streaming service unless you want to pay separately to rent/buy it. So that leaves me with uh...

Don't Trust the B in Apt 23 and Better off Ted are streaming on Hulu (Don't Trust the B's episodes might be in the wrong order), and Farscape is on Amazon Prime.

That's without getting into streaming originals, like Castlevania and The Witcher on Netflix, The Tick and Jean-Claude Van Johnson on Amazon Prime, and Doom Patrol and Harley Quinn on HBO Max.

Quetzi

This is the best possible news regarding Superstore for me personally

Rorshach Kringle

cheyenne is far and away my favorite character so yeah

gimme that spinoff

Bedigunz

Rorshach Kringle wrote: »

Marcus is far and away my favorite character so yeah

gimme that spinoff

Garlic Bread

keep cheyenne and bo the same age but have their baby age at a rapid pace

by the third season their baby should be older than them

MegaMan001

Straightzi wrote: »

This is the best possible news regarding Superstore for me personally

.....Nichole Sakura?

Rorshach Kringle

Bedigunz wrote: »

Rorshach Kringle wrote: »

Marcus is far and away my favorite character so yeah

gimme that spinoff

no i don't want that

Raijin Quickfoot

Marcus can’t lead a show! He’s a great side character but not a lead

Jimothy

I will miss Ben Feldman, hope he lands on another good show next

MalReynolds

Oh what Bo is gettin a spin off bwa bwa bwaaahhhhhhhh

Raijin Quickfoot

Bo always reminds me of the white rapper Dee dated for an episode on Its Always Sunny

spono

Garlic Bread wrote: »

keep cheyenne and bo the same age but have their baby age at a rapid pace

by the third season their baby should be older than them

Then spin off Harmonica into her own show, which is actually a reboot of Superstore

Prohass

Watching this episode of xfiles about a cult, and there was all these odd shots and I couldn’t quite figure out what was wrong with them. Then I realised they were playing b roll backwards. They must have not done enough shots or something so a few scenes with like shots of people sitting or looking around often had the same shots just reversed to make it look like more footage

Grislo

Lars wrote: »

With the start of a new TV thread, and we're in a pandemic when most network shows are going on winter break, I was going to make a list of good shows to watch.

Unfortunately a bunch of shit I was going to list seems to no longer be on any streaming service unless you want to pay separately to rent/buy it. So that leaves me with uh...

Don't Trust the B in Apt 23 and Better off Ted are streaming on Hulu (Don't Trust the B's episodes might be in the wrong order), and Farscape is on Amazon Prime.

That's without getting into streaming originals, like Castlevania and The Witcher on Netflix, The Tick and Jean-Claude Van Johnson on Amazon Prime, and Doom Patrol and Harley Quinn on HBO Max.

I can't remember where I streamed The B in apt 23, but it was definitely in the wrong order. I think it was only a few episodes towards the end, which should clearly have been inserted earlier, but it was odd.

knitdan

Been watching through HIMYM again out of boredom

-Lots of stuff in this show has not aged well at all. NPH’s character Barney is a straight-up sexual predator, which gets played for laughs all the time. There’s also a lot of transphobic jokes, and the T word is thrown around very casually (usually by Barney)

-The show goes on for way too many seasons. A big moment that I had thought of as the beginning of the show's third act...comes at the end of season 5. Out of 9. It really feels like the show became a victim of its own success and rather than wrap it up in a timely fashion they kept inventing reasons to keep it going.

-Character development occasionally happens and then gets discarded. Most often with Barney, who is basically this show’s Urkel, with all that entails. Often he will be shown coming to some big important self-realization only for it to be immediately undercut, sometimes in the same episode. This happens also with Robin and occasionally Ted. There’s very little actual growth out of any of these people over the course of the show and that’s just sad.

SimBen

Random Expanse season 5 thoughts (not a book reader)

Now wondering when the plot will lead Jim Holden to confront his hidden past, because that sure is what literally everyone else is doing (except uh, I guess Bobbie and Chrisjen). Unless the Protomolecule now counts as his past because that's literally what his whole life we've seen has been about? Also Alex, you say you want to get back in touch with your ex-wife and kids but you sure weren't holding a pan of all-edge lasagna at her doorstep, dummy.

Things sure are not going well for anyone at the end of episode 3, and I hope Amos was nowhere near that crash site. He was supposed to leave Earth but I don't think we've seen him actually take off?

Hobnail

Book reader spoilers

Holden really doesnt have a past to confront, he was raised all loving and nice polygamy style on a big ranch

Zonugal

Yesterday I started thinking about how I'd put together a list of ten Simpsons episodes for repeated watching in the future, something akin to a mini-season of TV.

And my first few cracks were raw chaos as I started picking my favorite episodes and then couldn't stop. I was overwhelmed in favorites.

So this morning I decided to structure it with two factors/themes:
-- Each family member would get one signature episode
-- The entire mini-season would be about the villainy of Mr. Burns

I decided to initially work backwards with the finale of this mini-season being Who Shot Mr. Burns Part #1 & #2, with 22 Short Films About Springfield right before it as to give a snap-shot of the residents of the town who would soon turn on the corrupt billionaire.

The full list ended up being:

-- Last Exit to Springfield [S4-E17]: Homer becomes union leader and leads a company strike when Mr. Burns takes away the company dental plan.
-- Rosebud [S5-E4]: After his birthday party goes wrong, Mr. Burns begins to want his childhood toy, a teddy bear named Bobo; Homer finds that Maggie is in possession of the doll.
-- Two Dozen and One Greyhounds [S6-E20]: Santa's Little Helper's new mate has puppies, and Mr. Burns schemes to steal them and make them into a coat.
-- Summer of 4’2’’ [S7-E25]: After realizing how unpopular she is, a disillusioned Lisa sees the vacation to Ned Flanders' beach house as an opportunity to reinvent herself.
-- $pringfield (Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling) [S5-E10]: Mr. Burns builds a casino when Springfield decides to legalize gambling, with Marge becoming addicted to the slot machines.
-- Bart Sells His Soul [S7-E4]: Bart casually sells his soul to Milhouse for five dollars but later regrets it. Moe converts his dank bar into a fun family restaurant.
-- Raging Abe Simpson And His Grumbling Grandson in ‘The Curse of the Fly Hellfish’ [S7-E22]: Another member of Grampa Simpson's WWII platoon dies, leaving only him and Mr. Burns. Years earlier, the men stole a number of priceless masterpieces from Nazi Germany, and now Mr. Burns aims to ensure he is the one to inherit them.
-- 22 Short Films About Springfield [S7-E21]: A series of vignettes highlights a day in the life of various Springfield residents.
-- Who Shot Mr. Burns Part #1 & #2 [S6-E25/S7-E1]: After Mr. Burns steals oil from Springfield Elementary, an unknown person, seemingly in retaliation, shoots him.

Snicketysnick

Started series 3 of Dark, was about an hour of

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wut

very fun episode!

everyone should have goatees but I will settle for eyepatch man having one arm instead

tynic

Honestly one of my favorite things about dark (end of S3 spoilers)

is that the eye patch and armlessness are never explained.

kaceyp

Finished Ted Lasso today. I thought the way they ended the season was perfect

It would have been maybe a little too much if they'd actually won. And them losing because Jamie made the extra pass is pure poetry. I actually wish they hadn't felt the need to really point it out in the scenes after.

Also, Higgins' devil beard was truly awful.

Super glad I watched this show and very much looking forward to the next season.

Ringo

That standup bass! I loved it

Blake T

kaceyp wrote: »

Finished Ted Lasso today. I thought the way they ended the season was perfect

It would have been maybe a little too much if they'd actually won. And them losing because Jamie made the extra pass is pure poetry. I actually wish they hadn't felt the need to really point it out in the scenes after.

Also, Higgins' devil beard was truly awful.

Super glad I watched this show and very much looking forward to the next season.

I don’t think they were explicitly pointing it out exactly. I think what they were showing is the consequences of him doing that.

Desserted

Blake T wrote: »

kaceyp wrote: »

Finished Ted Lasso today. I thought the way they ended the season was perfect

It would have been maybe a little too much if they'd actually won. And them losing because Jamie made the extra pass is pure poetry. I actually wish they hadn't felt the need to really point it out in the scenes after.

Also, Higgins' devil beard was truly awful.

Super glad I watched this show and very much looking forward to the next season.

I don’t think they were explicitly pointing it out exactly. I think what they were showing is the consequences of him doing that.

Agreed. I think the later scenes were demonstrating the difference in influences and why he is the way he is. Going to see some good character development there!

Tamin

Raijin Quickfoot wrote: »

Has anyone watched The Flight Attendant yet? The premise sounds like it could be interesting

I just finished episode 2, and I'm quite happy with it.

kaceyp

Blake T wrote: »

kaceyp wrote: »

Finished Ted Lasso today. I thought the way they ended the season was perfect

It would have been maybe a little too much if they'd actually won. And them losing because Jamie made the extra pass is pure poetry. I actually wish they hadn't felt the need to really point it out in the scenes after.

Also, Higgins' devil beard was truly awful.

Super glad I watched this show and very much looking forward to the next season.

I don’t think they were explicitly pointing it out exactly. I think what they were showing is the consequences of him doing that.

Well I mean in terms of

they specifically had his dad yell at him for making the pass, and then had the note from Ted praising him for making the pass. They definitely pointed it out. It's not really a criticism so much as "if they hadn't wanted to highlight the contrast between Ted/Jamie's Dad, it would've been a nice subtle irony."

Tbh though I also wasn't a huge fan of Jamie's reveal about his dad in the first place either. Writing-wise it just felt a little ham-fisted, "oh here's the exact reason Jamie is self-absorbed and selfish and he's able to clearly state the cause and his motivations in specific detail." But I realize the show is also not a Deep Character Study or complicated drama or anything, I just think the writing in that bit was a little clunkier than usual.

Zonugal

I just finished Mortal Kombat: Conquest, the 1998 prequel TV series to the 1995 film.

The last third of its episodes were wild and its season/series finale was pure, concentrated insanity.

I am wild-struck from it.

Like, it may be the boldest season/series finale I've ever seen for a show in its first season.

Ringo

kaceyp wrote: »

Blake T wrote: »

kaceyp wrote: »

Finished Ted Lasso today. I thought the way they ended the season was perfect

It would have been maybe a little too much if they'd actually won. And them losing because Jamie made the extra pass is pure poetry. I actually wish they hadn't felt the need to really point it out in the scenes after.

Also, Higgins' devil beard was truly awful.

Super glad I watched this show and very much looking forward to the next season.

I don’t think they were explicitly pointing it out exactly. I think what they were showing is the consequences of him doing that.

Well I mean in terms of

they specifically had his dad yell at him for making the pass, and then had the note from Ted praising him for making the pass. They definitely pointed it out. It's not really a criticism so much as "if they hadn't wanted to highlight the contrast between Ted/Jamie's Dad, it would've been a nice subtle irony."

Tbh though I also wasn't a huge fan of Jamie's reveal about his dad in the first place either. Writing-wise it just felt a little ham-fisted, "oh here's the exact reason Jamie is self-absorbed and selfish and he's able to clearly state the cause and his motivations in specific detail." But I realize the show is also not a Deep Character Study or complicated drama or anything, I just think the writing in that bit was a little clunkier than usual.

I think the writing is less subtle there because they ran the back half of that character's arc in a very constrained format. It literally had no time to show a more flowing organic progression, but after the last few years of Netflix programming I'm glad they wedged it in there to complete the season and not leave it hanging.

Also a testament to the show's writing and directing that even a truncated arc managed to hit the right notes for a proper finale. That's hard to pull off. Looking at you, Dragon Prince

PaperLuigi44

Discovery

And there's the workaround for that Section 31 show, kinda didn't need 2 more mirror episodes in that era but if it means Phillipa has more of a conscious then... Uh, thinking about it more I enjoy S31 as antagonists so Black Ops Starfleet has a steep hill to climb even if Georgiou is more likable.

Guardian of Forever was a good pull though, I totally was convinced Carl was a Q.

Fandyien

We tried to watch the new version of The Stand and it's absolutely dire:

Instead of doing everything in a linear way, it's all done via flashbacks, and most of the characters don't even appear in the first episode. The very first scene is corpse disposal in Boulder, then it flashes back to formerly-Molly-Ringwald and the dorky guy, then proceeds to bounce around between Boulder and other flashbacks. Whoopi Goldberg seems likely to be the best part of the show but they really botch her introduction by removing the guitar and making her jump out and surprise people in the corn instead of being a soothing presence.

They change the doctors a bit too, but mostly it just feels really weird because it's all out of order. seeing corpse disposal before you see Campion leave, trying to learn all these other people's narratives before you know about the disease's origin, etc etc makes it fairly difficult to follow, actually, since the way the scene is outlined it really isn't 100% obvious that Campion is at a military lab where the flu is being developed. if I hadn't seen the original 1994 version relatively recently, I'd have both had a difficult time following the plot and I would have been frustrated by all the quick cuts, flashbacks, and just baffling hypermodern hectic editing choices.

also, and I assume this was in reaction to the ongoing real-world thing, they changed it from a flu to a goofy thing that makes you swell up like one of those frogs with a giant neck

I'll watch the next few episodes out of morbid curiosity but it was incredibly disappointing, they just seem to have utterly lost the plot and general spirit of the original miniseries/book

Chall

That sounds pretty bad. Maybe I should rewatch the older one. I remember liking it but I think I was around 10 last time so I don't really remember a lot about it

Hobnail

I'm sure there is a very good rather long movie or perhaps series to be made of The Stand but lord it would be a highly transformative sort of adaptation

kaceyp

So Weekend Update on SNL has had a tradition for the last few years in their last pre-holiday episode of having Colin Jost and Michael Che "exchange" jokes -- writing jokes that the other one has to read live supposedly without having seen them yet. The bigger joke is trying to make each other look bad. Che's jokes for Jost to read usually involve making Jost say something racist.

I have to say, the last joke this time was pretty perfect just purely in terms of making Colin Jost, specifically, say it:

https://twitter.com/ghcstbusted/status/1340536054399569921?s=20

It was announced that Creed singer Scott Stapp will play Frank Sinatra in an upcoming movie. But the good news is, Sammy Davis, Jr. will be played by Scarlett Johannson.

facetious

I'm almost never interested in tv shows, but yesterday I learned about the existence of Alice in Borderland and based on what I heard and the trailer it seems the sort of thing I might enjoy. Have any of you watched it to give an opinion?

Zonugal

@Rorshach Kringle requested this, so here ya go:

Zonugal's Mortal Kombat: Conquest Rankings

Character Ranking
#1. --Raiden (Jeffrey Meek)
#2. --Quan Chi ('Adoni Maropis)
#3. --Shao Kahn (Jeffrey Meek)
#4. --Sub-Zero (J.J. Perry)
#5. --Taja (Kristanna Loken)
#6. --Siro (Daniel Bernhardt)
#7. --Kiri (Sung Hi Lee)
#8. --Mileena (Megan Brown)
#9. --Vorpax (Tracy Douglas)
#10. --Shang Tsung (Bruce Locke)
#11. --Mika (Jaime Pressly)
#12. --Siann (Dana Hee)
#13. --Scorpion (Chris Casamassa)
#14. --Omegis (Angelica Bridges)
#15. --Reptile (Jon Valera)
#16. --Kung Lao (Paolo Montalbán)
#17. --Kitana (Dara Tomanovich)/(Audie England)
#18. --Rain (Percy 'Spitfire' Brown)
#19. --Noob Saibot (Master Sultan Uddin)
#20. --Reiko (Jim Helsinger)
#21. --Qali (Roshumba Williams)
#22. --Kreeya (Fabiana Udenio)
#23. --Sora (Renee Tenison)
#24. --Geneviere "Jen" Reyland (Jennifer Renton)
#25. --Ankha (Tahitia Hicks)
#26. --Baron Reyland (John Reilly)

Episode Ranking
#1. --Quan Chi (Ep 9)
#2. --The Serpent and the Ice (Ep 15)
#3. --Vengeance (Ep 22)
#4. --Unholy Alliance (Ep 10)
#5. --Immoral Kombat (Ep 4)
#6. --Balance of Power (Ep 20)
#7. --Noob Saibot (Ep 6)
#8. --Kreeya (Ep 16)
#9. --Stolen Lies (Ep 21)
#10. --Shadow of a Doubt (Ep 12)
#11. --In Kold Blood (Ep 18)
#12. --Festival of Death (Ep 14)
#13. --Flawed Victory (Ep 19)
#14. --The Master (Ep 17)
#15. --Thicker Than Blood (Ep 11)
#16. --Debt of the Dragon (Ep 7)
#17. --Cold Reality (Ep 3)
#18. --Twisted Truths (Ep 13)
#19. --Undying Dream (Ep 8)
#20. --Warrior Eternal Part #1 & #2 (Ep 1 & 2)
#21. --The Essence (Ep 5)

In closing, I have many thoughts & opinions regarding Mortal Kombat: Conquest but while the first half of the show had a lot of issues, the last third of the show more than makes up for it.

Rorshach Kringle

mortal kombat: conquest and lost have one thing in common, too: a dumb cgi smoke monster

Sweeney Tom

Chall wrote: »

That sounds pretty bad.

I will say, at least one ep in, that Alexander Skarsgaard as Randall Flagg has worked out better than I expected