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Black Lives Matter

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 19
    So are we gonna see a wave of copycats now?

    Almost certainly

    You'll have white supremacists crossing state lines with assault rifles to murder protestors, possibly at the protests for this very trial

    There was already an asshole somewhere around the courthouse with an AR15 yesterday

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    he's a fired cop from Ferguson

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Not often something gets written on twitter directly aimed at my thought processes. Always need to work on being better wherever i'm at.



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    The most illustrative thing rn is who on here is writing stuff like "it's hard to feel safe today. take care of yourselves" and who has the luxury to instead spend time speculating about whether or not he'll get a book deal.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    The judge specifically and the judicial system in general guaranteed this outcome.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    of great we've moved to the armed thugs patrolling the streets part of fascism

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    edited November 19
    Jars wrote: »
    of great we've moved to the armed thugs patrolling the streets part of fascism

    Moved to? We already have cops. Right now we're in the "Brown Shirts pick fights and kill people in the street with impunity" stage of Fascism Rising.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    or have we always been there??

  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    We have always been there but for a few scant cases of consequences for the "unlucky ones" that stepped too far out of line (and with ample, undeniable evidence to back it up). We are now likely looking at a situation where the fascist leg-humper fan club is going to be not only emboldened by this decision, but also willing to go out and act on it the next time there's another big civil rights protest. Expect more bullets, cars, and knives.

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  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    or have we always been there??

    I feel like it’s one of those things that’s been happening and not getting talked about much outside of flare ups that are quickly forgotten.

    Like the time the proud boys beat someone up the night that McInnis got invited to the Republican Club by the NYC GOP, performed a yellow face reinactment at said club of the assassination of Japanese Socialist Party leader Inejirou Asanuma by the ultranationalist right winger Otoya Yamaguchi, then went out and waved a katana out in the street as he left the club at the end of hte night

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited November 19
    ..... WHAT?

    Somehow I had not heard of that one. (the McInnis shit)

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    It’s another example, in a long string of examples, of why the state will not save us.

    I have always been a firm proponent in prevention rather than cure. To that end, the only way I was able to find peace in a violent system was to do good in the community around me. I urge you to track down non-state affiliated local action groups in your community groups and get involved. Ways to find these groups:
    - look at who your local protest organisers are, who is speaking at protests/gatherings and see what groups they affiliate with
    - Go to state affiliated events like soup kitchens, blanket handouts etc and quite often there will be reps for the non state groups there as well
    - Libraries and other community places will often have noticeboards with info on them
    - I have personally had little success with Twitter/Facebook, but you might find there are groups, particularly in bigger centres, that have a good online presence.
    - Don’t be disheartened that they don’t welcome you with open arms! A lot of folks are (rightly and wrongly) paranoid about security. It takes time and consistency of action to find your place a lot of the time. I am the most cop looking motherfucker, and it took me some time, but I got there eventually.
    - if you have some like minded people you know in your town, get together with them and start doing some good work yourselves!

    Also like, I take medication for anxiety. I understand it can be virtually impossible to get the help you need. Please reach out to me privately if you need some funding to get access to appropriate mental health help; we’ve got a fund of sorts together to help forumers who need help

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    So with all the efforts American police and military have implemented to prevent blue on blue incidents, efforts that fail due to glorious human error, we now have a verdict that appears to give sanction for every fuckwit that thinks they are a cowboy and can "bring order to chaos," that about right?


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  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    facetious wrote: »
    ..... WHAT?

    Somehow I had not heard of that one. (the McInnis shit)
    On stage he portrayed a different ultranationalist. Wearing glasses with caricatured Asian eyes drawn on the front, McInnes played Otoya Yamaguchi, a young far-right extremist who assassinated the leader of the Japanese Socialist Party on live television exactly 58 years ago on October 12, 1960. Images of the historical event have recently become a popular meme among the right.

    When McInnes/Yamaguchi was all done assassinating, McInnes casually cracked open a cold one and, amid crass jokes about Japanese (or generally just Asian) accents and names, delivered a serious line: “Never let evil take root.” The audience of roughly 100 people erupted in cheers and hoots of approval.

    The evil McInnes mentioned is, in his perspective, America’s rising socialist movement. “The DNC now believes socialism is better than the free market!” he said incredulously. “Well that’s new!”

    https://bedfordandbowery.com/2018/10/inside-the-proud-boy-event-that-sparked-violence-outside-of-uptown-gop-club/amp/



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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    well he's got me there. socialism is better than free market

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    Sow that wind, fucker. See what grows.

    edit: not directed at you jars, obvi

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Once again making me wish for the Democrats the GOP claims exist

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    My dad occasionally blames "socialists" or "socialism" for one of or multiple of society's woes. Every time, I ask him what socialism is and how socialists could be responsible, and he hasn't been able to answer either question a single time, yet still does it.

    I am convinced, utterly convinced, most boomers don't even have a fucking clue what socialism is. And McCarthyism is so entrenched in their mind that they are deaf to actually finding out.

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  • TonkkaTonkka Some one in the club tonight Has stolen my ideas.Registered User regular
    Oh yeah my father constantly states the the US is already a socialist country. All I have been able to respond with is "What are you talking about?"

    I never get a good answer.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Tonkka wrote: »
    Oh yeah my father constantly states the the US is already a socialist country. All I have been able to respond with is "What are you talking about?"

    I never get a good answer.

    we have plenty of socialism

    it just tends to benefit people who need it least

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Any time I bring up Medicare or Social Security as examples of socialism the only response I get from conservatives is "That's not welfare I earned those benefits!"

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Any time I bring up Medicare or Social Security as examples of socialism the only response I get from conservatives is "That's not welfare I earned those benefits!"

    point out that you too are funding them, but will never benefit from them because they will be defaulted by the time you're retirement age, and then watch as they try and mental gymnastics that shit

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    also like, public roads and hospitals and the fire department and


    this country is dogshit I hate it here so goddamn much

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I bring up the fact that medicare is socialized medicine whenever my parents say something nice about it.

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  • H0b0manH0b0man Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    Back in the lead up to the '08 election my dad was telling me about how he didn't like Hillary Clinton because she was a socialist.

    So ya that term is just a meaningless stand-in for "politician I don't like" and nobody who throws it around knows wtf they are talking about.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Any time I bring up Medicare or Social Security as examples of socialism the only response I get from conservatives is "That's not welfare I earned those benefits!"

    point out that you too are funding them, but will never benefit from them because they will be defaulted by the time you're retirement age, and then watch as they try and mental gymnastics that shit

    that's not necessarily true- but by conditioning us to think they won't be there it will make it easier to take them away

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    McCarthyism never actually stopped in this country, it just stopped having formal Congressional hearings.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    also like, public roads and hospitals and the fire department and


    this country is dogshit I hate it here so goddamn much

    None of that is socialism. There's a reason that "socialism is when the government does things" has become a mocking retort to so many right wing talking points. Something being socialism and something being socialized is not necessarily the same thing.

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    4c2

    Somehow extremely poignant

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    As my dear friend and comrade @DarkPrimus once shared with me:
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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular


    A, and I cannot emphasize the A enough, CAB

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    People suck
    Be the stranger you wish you had had in your childhood

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  • ElaroElaro Threadkiller, Harbinger of the Lock GodsRegistered User regular


    A, and I cannot emphasize the A enough, CAB

    And to heck with the government that employs them, too!

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    maybe we should start having oil and gas companies fund disaster relief instead of tax payers

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited November 21
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    god I wish

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Anybody have any idea what's going on with this whole Kyle Rittenhouse thing? For those unaware after being acquitted he is now getting attacked by the far right for saying things like "I support BLM" and "I was railroaded and it would have been so much worse if I were a PoC".

    This is a grift I haven't seen.

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  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited November 23
    Anybody have any idea what's going on with this whole Kyle Rittenhouse thing? For those unaware after being acquitted he is now getting attacked by the far right for saying things like "I support BLM" and "I was railroaded and it would have been so much worse if I were a PoC".

    This is a grift I haven't seen.

    He's off the hook at this point so now he's going to milk his murders for his whole life like Zimmerman. He's probably getting media coaching. He'll temporarily sacrifice a small portion of chud supporters to pick up more lib supporters (and do not doubt that he has lib supporters), it's easy to win the chuds back later by repeating their talking points. Expect to hear his name an annoying amount over the coming years, and do not be surprised if he wanders into politics

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    edited November 24
    The three people on trial for killing Ahmaud Arbery have all found guilty of of murder (one of malice murder and the others of felony murder)

    I dont have a full breakdown of the counts but that seems good, hopefully they wont get off on appeal or something

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    Back in the lead up to the '08 election my dad was telling me about how he didn't like Hillary Clinton because she was a socialist.

    I remember last year my dad asked me if I thought Joe Biden was a socialist, and seemed honestly surprised when I laughed in response.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

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    I think it means Heathen.

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