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Black Lives Matter

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    The three people on trial for killing Ahmaud Arbery have all found guilty of of murder (one of malice murder and the others of felony murder)

    I dont have a full breakdown of the counts but that seems good, hopefully they wont get off on appeal or something

    I think they're still facing federal charges, too.

  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    Reminder that the authorities in the Arbery case tried their damndest to bury it, and the only reason his killers aren't walking free today is that one of the dipshits himself recorded and distributed that video which blew everything up. The former DA is still facing obstruction charges for it.

    So a big congrats to William Bryan for helping you and your homies get busted to jail. You arguably did more for the state's case than the state itself.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for other people"

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  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

    They also think socialism/communism/fascism/authoritarianism are synonymous.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    The three people on trial for killing Ahmaud Arbery have all found guilty of of murder (one of malice murder and the others of felony murder)

    I dont have a full breakdown of the counts but that seems good, hopefully they wont get off on appeal or something

    it is tremendously hard to overturn murder convictions

    like

    winning the lottery while also winning an olympic medal hard

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for anyone"

    They spent the better part of a decade getting the saying:

    "The scariest words in the English language: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

    drilled into their heads by a guy that once got out acted by a chimpanzee.

    First they came for the Muslims and we said...NOT TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS!
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  • QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    Anybody have any idea what's going on with this whole Kyle Rittenhouse thing? For those unaware after being acquitted he is now getting attacked by the far right for saying things like "I support BLM" and "I was railroaded and it would have been so much worse if I were a PoC".

    This is a grift I haven't seen.

    He's off the hook at this point so now he's going to milk his murders for his whole life like Zimmerman. He's probably getting media coaching. He'll temporarily sacrifice a small portion of chud supporters to pick up more lib supporters (and do not doubt that he has lib supporters), it's easy to win the chuds back later by repeating their talking points. Expect to hear his name an annoying amount over the coming years, and do not be surprised if he wanders into politics

    It's maddening how clear the line will be from this to "after trying it, I became disillusioned with teh left and..."

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Registered User, ClubPA regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

    They also think socialism/communism/fascism/authoritarianism are synonymous.

    "I mean they are called the national socialists!"

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

    They also think socialism/communism/fascism/authoritarianism are synonymous.

    "I mean they are called the national socialists!"

    My go-to counter is "Yes and it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and yet"

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

    They also think socialism/communism/fascism/authoritarianism are synonymous.

    "I mean they are called the national socialists!"

    My go-to counter is "Yes and it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and yet"

    Fascism is socialism for the nationalists and genocide for everyone else. It just that it turns out who the nationalists are is completely up to the discretion of the fascists.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

    Socialism is when the Democrats do literally anything, just like how critical race theory is anything that mentions a non-white race

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    It's funny because there are all these brown people from former Soviet proxy states and soviet states that could tell you (vague right wingers) about living under a communist government. Pity y'all don't ask them with open ears and just instead shop ala cart for data that supports your viewpoints. Pretty sure the left does the safe with words like racism and nazi's but they are not the ones enabling medical debt that is crushing the middle class (lower class just dies)

    Also

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I just legitimately don't understand what these people think socialism / socialist means.

    I know its propaganda and it means whatever they want it to mean but I want to sit each of them down and ask them to explain it to me.

    Literally just "socialism is when the government does stuff for people"

    They also think socialism/communism/fascism/authoritarianism are synonymous.

    "I mean they are called the national socialists!"

    My go-to counter is "Yes and it's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and yet"

    Fascism is socialism for the nationalists and genocide for everyone else. It just that it turns out who the nationalists are is completely up to the discretion of the fascists.

    Fascism is really hard to define in government terms because it's more like a religion or a worldview but I I think it's important to point out that the Nazis were not socialism for the in-group and genocide for everyone else. They were pretty hardcore capitalists when you get down to it.

    There is a reason they got a lot of support from business owners after all.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    a lot of people willfully misunderstand that party names are just ground zero for their propaganda

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    There were a bunch of them in the early days who were all about socialism for the in group. Ernst Rohm and his whole faction were so inclined. Naturally that scared the industrialists who then lent on Hitler, so a lot of that rhetoric faded away

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    There were a bunch of them in the early days who were all about socialism for the in group. Ernst Rohm and his whole faction were so inclined. Naturally that scared the industrialists who then lent on Hitler, so a lot of that rhetoric faded away

    The Night of the Long Knives definitely sped that up.

    First they came for the Muslims and we said...NOT TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS!
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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    There were a bunch of them in the early days who were all about socialism for the in group. Ernst Rohm and his whole faction were so inclined. Naturally that scared the industrialists who then lent on Hitler, so a lot of that rhetoric faded away

    The Night of the Long Knives definitely sped that up.

    Was home dude really Hitler's boyfriend or was that just creative thinking on historical fan fiction?

    The one offered suicide in jail but who insisted Hitler would come for him.

  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited November 26
    Tef wrote: »
    There were a bunch of them in the early days who were all about socialism for the in group. Ernst Rohm and his whole faction were so inclined. Naturally that scared the industrialists who then lent on Hitler, so a lot of that rhetoric faded away

    The Night of the Long Knives definitely sped that up.

    Was home dude really Hitler's boyfriend or was that just creative thinking on historical fan fiction?

    The one offered suicide in jail but who insisted Hitler would come for him.

    Rohm, very doubtful. Neither one really showed any inclination towards that sort of familiarity.

    It was more of a Stalin vs. Trotsky situation, with Rohm having massively tight control of the SA but thinking him and Adolf were actual friends (they were not). Hitler disposing of him and ordering the Night of Long Knives was a way to eliminate most of those most loyal to Rohm and anyone else not named Adolf Hitler, once the political pressure from the oligarchs was put on Hitler as Chancellor.

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  • ElaroElaro Threadkiller, Harbinger of the Lock GodsRegistered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    There were a bunch of them in the early days who were all about socialism for the in group. Ernst Rohm and his whole faction were so inclined. Naturally that scared the industrialists who then lent on Hitler, so a lot of that rhetoric faded away

    The Night of the Long Knives definitely sped that up.

    Was home dude really Hitler's boyfriend or was that just creative thinking on historical fan fiction?

    The one offered suicide in jail but who insisted Hitler would come for him.

    Rohm, very doubtful. Neither one really showed any inclination towards that sort of familiarity.

    It was more of a Stalin vs. Trotsky situation, with Rohm having massively tight control of the SA but thinking him and Adolf were actual friends and Hitler disposing of him and ordering the Night of Long Knives to eliminate most of those most loyal to Rohm and anyone else not named Adolf Hitler, once the political pressure from the oligarchs was put on Hitler as Chancellor.

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