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This came up today as an example of wonderful .mil PowerPoint culture
The people who make .mil powerpoints and the people who edit the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy are basically the same person, one just makes a fuckton more money
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
I’m halfway through the last book in jk nemisin’s earthquake trilogy. Am I supposed to... understand the magic system?
There isn't a 'system' that gets laid out in a way that could be codified to rpg rules, no.
There are two things happening:
geology magic which takes energy from the earth (thus makes it colder)
silver magic which takes magic from idk people energy or whatever and can do more things than just geology
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
In the same way I can make a true statement about mathematics that doesn't apply to our physical reality, yes.
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
It bothers me unnecessarily that the "don't be killed" onion's lines don't match up with the content's lines
Is there a secret military philosophy egg that lives inside the onion?
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
Does a universe exist at all if there are no minds in it?I'm not sure this is the best counterfactual
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Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
In the same way I can make a true statement about mathematics that doesn't apply to our physical reality, yes.
Exactly what i was trying to ask. So then i think you are squarely a moral realist, as defined by the Stanford moral anti realism page
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
In the same way I can make a true statement about mathematics that doesn't apply to our physical reality, yes.
Exactly what i was trying to ask. So then i think you are squarely a moral realist, as defined by the Stanford moral anti realism page
I suppose so, but I think that depends on whether you think math is real.
I would say "I think ethics is as real as math is".
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Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
Does a universe exist at all if there are no minds in it?I'm not sure this is the best counterfactual
I was just trying to phrase the third question about anti realism.
That said, if you posit a reality in which rocks move in curves but there is no life, i don't see how you could argue things don't exist there
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
Does a universe exist at all if there are no minds in it?I'm not sure this is the best counterfactual
I mean, given that we are all the Godhead dreaming itself....
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HonkHonk is this poster.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
Dizzy
Half of all presenters don’t know jack shit what they’re talking about. I remain convinced that around 40% of having a C-level job is just having a high cringe tolerance and being able to speak in tongues while maintaining confidence.
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
In the same way I can make a true statement about mathematics that doesn't apply to our physical reality, yes.
Exactly what i was trying to ask. So then i think you are squarely a moral realist, as defined by the Stanford moral anti realism page
I suppose so, but I think that depends on whether you think math is real.
I would say "I think ethics is as real as math is".
It's defined really explicitly in the articles, your position is one of several on the realist side
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
Does a universe exist at all if there are no minds in it?I'm not sure this is the best counterfactual
After the big bang but before brains there was nothing EM has spoken
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
Does a universe exist at all if there are no minds in it?I'm not sure this is the best counterfactual
After the big bang but before brains there was nothing EM has spoken
Actually immediately after the big bang a Boltzmann brain formed that spanned all existing matter
This came up today as an example of wonderful .mil PowerPoint culture
The people who make .mil powerpoints and the people who edit the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy are basically the same person, one just makes a fuckton more money
Isn't he canonically an American who says random shit in Japanese because he thinks it sounds cool?
He's an American weeaboo and also the president of an African nation that he named after himself
So he's guilty gears cecil rhodes?
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SummaryJudgmentGrab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front doorRegistered Userregular
I am really really tired, and not getting anything done at work / answering tons of phone calls
And I'm like...just burnt out. I've been wearing the same pajamas around the house for like a week because work and then my kid comes home and that's a full time job till 8pm, and then we're too fucking fried to do anything but sit
I'm having a minor panic attack that I was going to play a game of league while my wife went to go get our daughter from daycare and I did not get up from my work desk and run over to my play desk quickly enough, and so now I do not have enough time. And I was planning on working tonight to do my actual work, because I have a project that will take two hours and I've put off (and been miserable about) for two months now.
Uhh it was pretty clear that if you reach into the earth and form a high and tight geomantic torus then you transfer that toric energy to do your work. Did this help?
#AntFacts: Moral Ant Realism is the philosophy that the only moral agents in the universe are ants, and that all other beings are merely automatons acting without the Soul of Antness that burns bright within our formicidae friends. This moral philosophy is so trivially proven accurate that most college PHIL courses leave the disclaimer unspoken that all human philosophy is based on falsely negating the moral agency of ants.
I am really really tired, and not getting anything done at work / answering tons of phone calls
And I'm like...just burnt out. I've been wearing the same pajamas around the house for like a week because work and then my kid comes home and that's a full time job till 8pm, and then we're too fucking fried to do anything but sit
I'm having a minor panic attack that I was going to play a game of league while my wife went to go get our daughter from daycare and I did not get up from my work desk and run over to my play desk quickly enough, and so now I do not have enough time. And I was planning on working tonight to do my actual work, because I have a project that will take two hours and I've put off (and been miserable about) for two months now.
I don't play games I can't pause until kids are asleep anymore.
League took too long even before I had kids.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I’m halfway through the last book in jk nemisin’s earthquake trilogy. Am I supposed to... understand the magic system?
I mean, not really. It isn't ever like, described in a way that isn't sort of sensory and subjective. There also don't really appear to be rules or anything, it's more vague.
I don't find that it matters though, those questions just aren't germane for the story.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
one good thing about watching soccer is if i know i need to start the potatoes in fifteen minutes and i look up and it's the 81st minute then when i look up again it's the 96th minute because i guess the ref is giving Burnley as much opportunity as they need to tie this up
well i also know it's been exactly 15 minutes and i should start the potatoes
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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HonkHonk is this poster.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
Dizzy
Oi ref get glasses mate those potatoes was boild to longs
My beliefs in regard to moral realism is that ethics are a sort of logically deducible game theoretical solution for the behavior necessary to allow social organisms to successfully live together, and are thus capable of being conditionally true, and moral sentiment is an emotional heuristic for approximating ethical behavior, in the same way that disgust is an emotional heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior.
this would make traffic laws an issue of morality.
there are lots of rules that make us all living together work well, but it doesn't seem like that is a moral rule.
also moral sentiment then is a heuristic for approximating going the speed limit? I don't really understand what you are saying here.
Disgust is a heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior? So when I'm disgusted by the conduct of the people at the capitol last week that's about cleanliness?
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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The people who make .mil powerpoints and the people who edit the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy are basically the same person, one just makes a fuckton more money
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
ah understood; I thought otherwise because of the framing discussion
I believe you are not
Do you think it's possible to make a true statement about ethics that would still be true if there were no minds in the universe?
Chu if you don't understand how to control your magic I will be forced to kill you
There isn't a 'system' that gets laid out in a way that could be codified to rpg rules, no.
There are two things happening:
geology magic which takes energy from the earth (thus makes it colder)
silver magic which takes magic from idk people energy or whatever and can do more things than just geology
In the same way I can make a true statement about mathematics that doesn't apply to our physical reality, yes.
Is there a secret military philosophy egg that lives inside the onion?
but they're listening to every word I say
Does a universe exist at all if there are no minds in it?I'm not sure this is the best counterfactual
Exactly what i was trying to ask. So then i think you are squarely a moral realist, as defined by the Stanford moral anti realism page
I suppose so, but I think that depends on whether you think math is real.
I would say "I think ethics is as real as math is".
I was just trying to phrase the third question about anti realism.
That said, if you posit a reality in which rocks move in curves but there is no life, i don't see how you could argue things don't exist there
I mean, given that we are all the Godhead dreaming itself....
That or King because of the Leopard mask.
but they're listening to every word I say
It's defined really explicitly in the articles, your position is one of several on the realist side
After the big bang but before brains there was nothing EM has spoken
but they're listening to every word I say
Actually immediately after the big bang a Boltzmann brain formed that spanned all existing matter
Prove me wrong
Maybe he is all those things at once.
but they're listening to every word I say
Making that Philosophy coin.
But if you don't mind it don't matter.
but they're listening to every word I say
And I'm like...just burnt out. I've been wearing the same pajamas around the house for like a week because work and then my kid comes home and that's a full time job till 8pm, and then we're too fucking fried to do anything but sit
I'm having a minor panic attack that I was going to play a game of league while my wife went to go get our daughter from daycare and I did not get up from my work desk and run over to my play desk quickly enough, and so now I do not have enough time. And I was planning on working tonight to do my actual work, because I have a project that will take two hours and I've put off (and been miserable about) for two months now.
I don't play games I can't pause until kids are asleep anymore.
League took too long even before I had kids.
but they're listening to every word I say
I mean, not really. It isn't ever like, described in a way that isn't sort of sensory and subjective. There also don't really appear to be rules or anything, it's more vague.
I don't find that it matters though, those questions just aren't germane for the story.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
well i also know it's been exactly 15 minutes and i should start the potatoes
this would make traffic laws an issue of morality.
there are lots of rules that make us all living together work well, but it doesn't seem like that is a moral rule.
also moral sentiment then is a heuristic for approximating going the speed limit? I don't really understand what you are saying here.
Disgust is a heuristic for approximating sanitary behavior? So when I'm disgusted by the conduct of the people at the capitol last week that's about cleanliness?
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche