So how are people building Baal, exactly? Since I don't have The Catch yet, I'm just using the Deathmatch for now, so the main stats on her sands/goblet/headpiece right now are ER/Electro/Atk%. But I was thinking, with all the electro damage and burst damage she gets from her passive, The Catch, and the emblem artifact set, an electro damage goblet might not actually be ideal? So when I get the other spear, I'm thinking about rolling with ER/Atk%/Crit Rate instead.
Maybe passing on Atk% would be right instead if I'm consistently supporting her with Sara or Bennett, though.
EDIT: I'm also entertaining the idea of building her for EM, but I'm going to try a normal build first.
Normal build would be ER/Electro/CR or CD and skimp ATK as much as possible because you're going to get so much from Emblem and potentially Engulfing. Engulfing can carry 300% ER and be in good shape, otherwise aim for 200%.
I've seen math that ATK Goblet beats Electro if you have no ATK buffer in team but that's pretty rare and also I think only for Catch, not for Engulfing.
So how are people building Baal, exactly? Since I don't have The Catch yet, I'm just using the Deathmatch for now, so the main stats on her sands/goblet/headpiece right now are ER/Electro/Atk%. But I was thinking, with all the electro damage and burst damage she gets from her passive, The Catch, and the emblem artifact set, an electro damage goblet might not actually be ideal? So when I get the other spear, I'm thinking about rolling with ER/Atk%/Crit Rate instead.
Maybe passing on Atk% would be right instead if I'm consistently supporting her with Sara or Bennett, though.
EDIT: I'm also entertaining the idea of building her for EM, but I'm going to try a normal build first.
Normal build would be ER/Electro/CR or CD and skimp ATK as much as possible because you're going to get so much from Emblem and potentially Engulfing. Engulfing can carry 300% ER and be in good shape, otherwise aim for 200%.
I've seen math that ATK Goblet beats Electro if you have no ATK buffer in team but that's pretty rare and also I think only for Catch, not for Engulfing.
That makes a lot of sense. It turns out I never kept an atk% goblet with decent substats, so it's a moot point right now anyway.
I'm thinking about trying a team of Ningguang/Baal/Sara/Zhongli. Running the new pair might not be as good as just using Fischl and whoever, but Ningguang teams aren't especially needy in my experience, so I think it's a good team to play around with. Baal and Sara are both level 70 now and have their relevant talents at 6. Incidentally I thought of this idea while beating up the new electro boss for ascending those two, because Ningguang and Yanfei kinda trivialize that thing. If I like that team, then it might convince me to make more of an effort for Ningguang's C6.
Getting into fishing a bit, and a quick heads up for people who are going to be looking to get The Catch. Fish don't seem to respawn very quickly, and there's a particular fish you need a bunch of that, as far as I know, only spawns in one location and there's only a few there. Catching them doesn't take long, mind, but unless you go world-hopping it's gonna take a few days to get enough. I'll probably be able to get the weapon itself tomorrow, but taking it to R5 is gonna take a bit more doing.
Getting into fishing a bit, and a quick heads up for people who are going to be looking to get The Catch. Fish don't seem to respawn very quickly, and there's a particular fish you need a bunch of that, as far as I know, only spawns in one location and there's only a few there. Catching them doesn't take long, mind, but unless you go world-hopping it's gonna take a few days to get enough. I'll probably be able to get the weapon itself tomorrow, but taking it to R5 is gonna take a bit more doing.
Which fish and which location?
The purple fish in the electrified shipwreck west of Inazuma city.
There seems to be some variability in when fishing spots regen. The consensus I heard was 3 days, but I've had a couple respawn 1 day or so after being cleared. Sadly the spoilered spot wasn't one of them. I think it might be related to how some fishing spots are glowing when you approach them, but I have no idea what the mechanics of it are.
Ain't no particular sign I'm more compatible with
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Hell yes. I just got C2 Sara, 76 rolls after getting Baal. Now I can save that pity for a new 5*, even if it's a 50/50. Considering I got C6 Xiangling too, this banner is a complete success. It's kinda funny too that I just got that constellation for Sara after using her in floors 9 and 10 of the abyss. It'll go a long way to making her usable in 11 and 12, though!
Also just got C1 Keqing off the standard banner. I was actually considering giving her another look to use with Baal. She's not the most powerful character in the world in a quickswap team, but she can still do some pretty good damage if built for it.
I haven’t used her yet, but got Baal to 80/80 and 4/7/6
She has a pretty poor set of fate artifacts so I’ll need to work on those more, really need an ER sands.
I haven’t attempted floor 12, but got through 11 pretty easily this time. I took a little too long on the cryo cube and lost a star on 11-3. Still feel like the pyro cube is overturned for what it is.
Whoever designed these new particle challenges needs to brush up on course design. So many times I've started one, picked up a few and was like "okay where am I supposed to go now?" which is completely counter to the point.
Raiden seems tailor made to go with three very specefic teams atm, and all are with primary dps with downtime.
Eula/Raiden + 2 supports superconduct. Childe/Raiden + 2nd off-field electro + support electrocharged. Yoimiya (or Yanfei)/Raiden + 2 supports overload. Raiden recharges energy to help the main dps have burst uptime, and takes the field herself during their downtime.
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edited September 2021
Finished Archon quests.
That sure has some juicy lore stuff.
This is huge spoilers, AVOID AVOID AVOID AVOID AVOID UNTIL FINISHED
GO AWAY WHAT DID I JUST SAY
Baal actually being not Baal but her twin was pretty interesting. I still don't like her (losing a Vision literally sucks away a persons hopes and dreams, it's shown pretty conclusively how fucked up this is, she might as well have just killed them), and she got away scot free, but she's a God, what can you do?
Also completely confirmed from talking to Yae Miko afterwards that a Gnosis has nothing to do with an Archon's power. Ei gave it away centuries ago and did all the super powerful Archon stuff we've seen since then. It's literally just a hotline to heaven, and that's it really. Ei had already severed her connections to Celestia on her own after she took over from Baal.
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Did my two week break, triggered Stellar Reunion for the fourth time. Got two Xianglings (c3 -> c5, just what I wanted), a Raiden and Sara on two consequential pulls (how very fitting) and stopped there. Then spent my standard fates since they aren't changing that banner and got c3 Qiqi, yay. Qiqi and Raiden were both pity pulls so other than getting the Xianglings and Sara I wanted to that wasn't very lucky at all.
Now I have to figure out what I'm doing with the 52 fates I have left. I guess I'll wait and see which reruns we are getting next patch, weapon banner or Kokomi aren't too enticing.
Also the new thunderbird fight attacks too quickly as somebody else already mentioned. It feels like there's not even time to get one lousy charged attack off if not shielded. It's not a tough fight with Zhongli but just getting hit by every damn attack while spamming a ridiculous shield seems kinda stupid gameplay.
I tried the Raiden build du jour, and threw some mostly random elemental mastery gear on her, and a not fully levelled spear for a decent 850 EM, with good room for improvement.
Definitely seems to have some potential, but also turns her into a pretty boring addition to a team.
I could hit a high EM still if I went for an electro damage goblet, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea...
I threw Raiden in my Childe abyss team in place of Fischl (except for floor 11 because Fuck Floor 11); she did her job well enough even though she isn't built at all right now.
Really need to farm up an Emblem of Severed Fate set for her, but unfortunately that domain in particular seems to enjoy fucking with me when it comes to drops.
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edited September 2021
I quite like Aloys super cross looking serious face. It's a great juxtaposition with her bobble headed anime look.
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I threw Raiden in my Childe abyss team in place of Fischl (except for floor 11 because Fuck Floor 11); she did her job well enough even though she isn't built at all right now.
Really need to farm up an Emblem of Severed Fate set for her, but unfortunately that domain in particular seems to enjoy fucking with me when it comes to drops.
I started getting some really sick Shimenawa drops when I resolved that I was going to pass on Yoimiya after losing the 50/50...
(...when I already had a full set farmed out for her that's just going to sit and rot.)
This matches my experience so far as well. Seems pretty easy to get those angelfish that spawn in only one location since you don't actually need that many of them. The koi and pufferfish, even though they show up in more place, need ridiculous numbers.
Question: why do they keep referring to the enemy units in the shogun's army as ronin? Aren't they acting under the shogun's order/wishes thereby making them literally the opposite of ronin?
Need to pour a lot more resin in to really charge up (ha) her artifacts instead of the 'decent' set I have on but that is a future Spectrum problem.
It'll probably be a good while before I do her last ascension since I'm splitting resources between her and Sara, but I also took her burst talent to level 8 today. Finally, a good use for those items that let you convert boss drops into different drops from the same boss.
I'm in decent shape for artifacts since I had been farming the Emblem dungeon nonstop for Beidou anyway, but I've got some work ahead of me in the weapons department.
I was close to pity on the standard banner, so I went through my character list and got a few randoms up to Ascension 3 with leftover mats for blue fates.
Ended up pulling Primordial Jade Wing Spear, which is cool... but also slightly annoying considering I just finished max ascending Skyward Spine yesterday.
Oh well, it's a great weapon and will come in handy if I ever want to build Rosaria or run Raiden + Xiangling national team style comps, just another thing I'm gonna have to spend resin on eventually.
Feeling pretty good about this! Ningguang is pretty far from being one of my most powerful characters, so I I'm really happy that I was able to pull this off with that second team. The second half of 12-2 was the real problem this time, but I think it would be consistent if I had a little more investment in those characters. I was consistently clearing it within 10 seconds of the goal, so I just needed a really clean run to get 3 stars.
Also I swear I wasn't making a point to clear this with as many electro characters as possible, but I guess that's how it worked out.
Thinking about it, I might be pretty tempted to roll for Eula next time she comes around. I wouldn't mind having another excuse to use Raiden more, and I actually don't have anyone built for physical damage yet.
Shame she really doesn't work with Sara at all, but I might not be so committed to using the two new characters together once they're not new anymore.
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I don't have Eula but I am thinking about building a team with Raiden, Razor, Rosaria, and Jean for some lightning fun shenanigans.
Eula is probably the character I like playing most, so I would wholeheartedly endorse picking her up.
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Out of the characters I've missed, the ones I would want most are Venti and Albedo. Heavily leaning toward the latter. Eula is very cool (HAH), but eh...
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I've seen math that ATK Goblet beats Electro if you have no ATK buffer in team but that's pretty rare and also I think only for Catch, not for Engulfing.
That makes a lot of sense. It turns out I never kept an atk% goblet with decent substats, so it's a moot point right now anyway.
I'm thinking about trying a team of Ningguang/Baal/Sara/Zhongli. Running the new pair might not be as good as just using Fischl and whoever, but Ningguang teams aren't especially needy in my experience, so I think it's a good team to play around with. Baal and Sara are both level 70 now and have their relevant talents at 6. Incidentally I thought of this idea while beating up the new electro boss for ascending those two, because Ningguang and Yanfei kinda trivialize that thing. If I like that team, then it might convince me to make more of an effort for Ningguang's C6.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/pgl05w/am_i_playing_xiao_correctly/
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Which fish and which location?
There seems to be some variability in when fishing spots regen. The consensus I heard was 3 days, but I've had a couple respawn 1 day or so after being cleared. Sadly the spoilered spot wasn't one of them. I think it might be related to how some fishing spots are glowing when you approach them, but I have no idea what the mechanics of it are.
Also just got C1 Keqing off the standard banner. I was actually considering giving her another look to use with Baal. She's not the most powerful character in the world in a quickswap team, but she can still do some pretty good damage if built for it.
She has a pretty poor set of fate artifacts so I’ll need to work on those more, really need an ER sands.
I haven’t attempted floor 12, but got through 11 pretty easily this time. I took a little too long on the cryo cube and lost a star on 11-3. Still feel like the pyro cube is overturned for what it is.
I just got the 5th (got noelle from the beginner wish) character but I have been enjoying the exploration and combat.
Eula/Raiden + 2 supports superconduct. Childe/Raiden + 2nd off-field electro + support electrocharged. Yoimiya (or Yanfei)/Raiden + 2 supports overload. Raiden recharges energy to help the main dps have burst uptime, and takes the field herself during their downtime.
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That sure has some juicy lore stuff.
This is huge spoilers, AVOID AVOID AVOID AVOID AVOID UNTIL FINISHED
Also completely confirmed from talking to Yae Miko afterwards that a Gnosis has nothing to do with an Archon's power. Ei gave it away centuries ago and did all the super powerful Archon stuff we've seen since then. It's literally just a hotline to heaven, and that's it really. Ei had already severed her connections to Celestia on her own after she took over from Baal.
Now I have to figure out what I'm doing with the 52 fates I have left. I guess I'll wait and see which reruns we are getting next patch, weapon banner or Kokomi aren't too enticing.
Also the new thunderbird fight attacks too quickly as somebody else already mentioned. It feels like there's not even time to get one lousy charged attack off if not shielded. It's not a tough fight with Zhongli but just getting hit by every damn attack while spamming a ridiculous shield seems kinda stupid gameplay.
Definitely seems to have some potential, but also turns her into a pretty boring addition to a team.
I could hit a high EM still if I went for an electro damage goblet, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea...
Really need to farm up an Emblem of Severed Fate set for her, but unfortunately that domain in particular seems to enjoy fucking with me when it comes to drops.
(...when I already had a full set farmed out for her that's just going to sit and rot.)
This matches my experience so far as well. Seems pretty easy to get those angelfish that spawn in only one location since you don't actually need that many of them. The koi and pufferfish, even though they show up in more place, need ridiculous numbers.
I don't plan to do very much of this, but the fish respawning rate has definitely left something to be desired.
i haven't started yet, it's fine if you want
Need to pour a lot more resin in to really charge up (ha) her artifacts instead of the 'decent' set I have on but that is a future Spectrum problem.
It'll probably be a good while before I do her last ascension since I'm splitting resources between her and Sara, but I also took her burst talent to level 8 today. Finally, a good use for those items that let you convert boss drops into different drops from the same boss.
I'm in decent shape for artifacts since I had been farming the Emblem dungeon nonstop for Beidou anyway, but I've got some work ahead of me in the weapons department.
Ended up pulling Primordial Jade Wing Spear, which is cool... but also slightly annoying considering I just finished max ascending Skyward Spine yesterday.
Oh well, it's a great weapon and will come in handy if I ever want to build Rosaria or run Raiden + Xiangling national team style comps, just another thing I'm gonna have to spend resin on eventually.
Finished a basic artifact set for her, so just need another week to get the Catch...
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Feeling pretty good about this! Ningguang is pretty far from being one of my most powerful characters, so I I'm really happy that I was able to pull this off with that second team. The second half of 12-2 was the real problem this time, but I think it would be consistent if I had a little more investment in those characters. I was consistently clearing it within 10 seconds of the goal, so I just needed a really clean run to get 3 stars.
Also I swear I wasn't making a point to clear this with as many electro characters as possible, but I guess that's how it worked out.
There's been word of replacing Kazuha/Sucrose with Raiden in the International team to good effect that has me interested.
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Shame she really doesn't work with Sara at all, but I might not be so committed to using the two new characters together once they're not new anymore.
Mona and Jean are the two characters I 'regret' not spook lucking into.
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I wish I had Mona tho I want bigger numbers.
I most regret not getting Albedo because I want all the meteors all the time.
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Useful yes. Very fun. You can live without tho.