Albedo is cool but his skill gets nullified by too many domains. Unless it's just a graphical glitch on my end.
I really like albedo but he doesn't make it into my team very often for this reason. Any boss that touches his skill destroys it, and unlike other geo characters with structures like Ningguang and Zhongli, it completely destroys his usefulness.
Kazuha is absolutely the #1 character that I want. Eula's probably #2, but I can't really think of anyone else I'd be really enthusiastic about. Hu Tao and Ayaka would both be really good and all but I'm happy with what I have already for those roles. I had Albedo on an alternate account back when I felt like playing a lot more, and I definitely liked him a lot, but I don't think it was enough for me to want to roll for him here when he comes back.
Jean would definitely be a useful pickup at some point. I've thought a few times when building parties that I wish I had her, but I don't think I'd use her a lot.
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Albedo is cool but his skill gets nullified by too many domains. Unless it's just a graphical glitch on my end.
? You mean if you summon it on them? Or do they walk onto it and destroy it?
Cos for Zhongli for example you can summon it facing sideways and it wont break.
After doing a little googling, I guess it just gets destroyed. Never really thought about it having HP. Would explain why it seemed to just disappear. Seems like there are ways to mitigate that though.
Albedo is a very comfy character for overworld, where his construct is unlikely to get destroyed (and can even help you traverse the terrain, when you don't have to worry about overhangs anyway). That said, he's largely a "win more" character since his skill doesn't trigger at all against enemies who take no damage while shielded, which is the vast majority of what he brings to the table. Even worse is that pretty much every boss in the game will just outright destroy his construct by total accident because their attacks have large hitboxes and sweep all around them all the time.
If you're one of those people who think it's bad that Raiden's skill doesn't work against fully shielded enemies, just keep in mind Albedo has it way worse as far as just being nearly blank as a unit in particular encounters. He's easy enough to gear up and great when he works, but...there's a lot of times he just *doesn't* work, and it's usually in the more difficult content the game has to offer up.
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Still got a handful more chests to hunt down for the pirate thing since I bumblefucked into that like right at the end, as well as 2 electrolocus across the new islands, and the Neko and Granny dailies.
edit: found one, so only 1 more electrolocus to go
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Isnt the cooldown on his skill really low?
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This is not sounding like a particularly devastating drawback....
I specifically want him for Zhongli. My Zhongli is a dps. Yes I know what a waste, he solos bosses basically so not really. Anyway he doesn't have much ER and I want meteors on cooldown. I can achieve this with geo mc and good spacing of geo constructs to hit as many as possible with Zhongli's resonance but Albedo also does a lot of damage.
I am thinking of making him a second support set tho for the few times I want to use him as one.
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It's more of a pain in the ass than anything. Albedo's biggest perk is that he doesn't have to spend hardly any time on the field, and any of the big bosses will destroy his thing on contact. So you have to manually aim them away every time and then hope that the boss doesn't move at all. His weakness of not being able to damage shields is the huge issue. And then there's things like Oceanid where his platform can't spawn at all because you are standing in water.
Anyway, weekly reset means we can finally craft Electroculus resonance stones, if you've been keeping up on reputation quests anyway. Guess I gotta start making an effort to collect sakura blooms.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but leveling Aloy is bugged so that using exp books on her only costs 1 mora regardless of books used. If you have access to her, and think you'd be interested in leveling her, now's probably a good time.
I just got an Emblem goblet with Atk% main stat and both crit stats as substats, so I had to bring that up to level 20 to run an experiment. It ended up pretty good, but not incredible. Certainly enough to run a test with on my Raiden.
Turns out, the prediction from earlier was spot on. With an atk% goblet instead of electro%, my Raiden's damage during her burst with no outside buffs went up by a little bit. Especially notable because my electro goblet was way better, so the fact that her damage still went up is very impressive! However, as soon as she gets buffed by Sara or Bennett, that flips completely. The attack difference suddenly isn't as substantial, relatively speaking, so the electro goblet pulls ahead by a noticeable amount.
Granted, this is with her using the Skyward Spine. Once I get The Catch (soon!) and bring it to R5 (eventually!), that will give her much less base attack and a boost to her damage%. I'm actually not sure which artifact that will benefit, though, since less base attack means the atk% goblet is going to increase it by less. If anything, it's just going to make the boost from the supports that much more of a swing.
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I'm curious which way that ends up for you. I'm running ATK/Electro/Crit (the normal) on her, also with Skyward Spine. But The Catch does change things up quite a bit. And I haven't been able to get an ER.. anything of any use for her so far.
Yeah, building Raiden feels interesting cause there is never really a "right" build, instead you really gotta take into consideration what the rest of your team brings.
Like, that's kinda the case for everyone to an extent, but it feels like Raiden needs to pay attention to it even more than usual.
I'm so annoyed. Fish reset today and I'm 2 rusty koi short for making the catch. Bleh.
Puffer fish are on the to-do list still mostly, and I need twice as many of those... (but every 10 of each upgrades the spear, so not as bad). I'm well ahead of schedule on the lightning fish because there's always at least 3/rotation and you only need 18 of em total.
I'm so annoyed. Fish reset today and I'm 2 rusty koi short for making the catch. Bleh.
Puffer fish are on the to-do list still mostly, and I need twice as many of those... (but every 10 of each upgrades the spear, so not as bad). I'm well ahead of schedule on the lightning fish because there's always at least 3/rotation and you only need 18 of em total.
I got really lucky with the koi, but can't get the others to spawn... Let me know if you want to hop into my world. Should have all the koi fishing spots full.
My favorite line in this guide is "Zhongli will still end up finding himself on Raiden teams". Especially if you're using Bennett anyway, Zhongli is absolutely not needed on her teams, and his burst is both low cost and slow (and probably weak since most people don't build him for it). Yet, he's still Zhongli, the man who will get jammed into every team imaginable. And hey, I'm guilty of this, although I need him for geo resonance for Ningguang.
According to the charts in that guide, The Catch is a little bit better than Skyward Spine, and pulls ahead a bit if she has 200+ ER and is being buffed by Sara or Bennett. It also says you should pretty much always use an electro goblet if she's being buffed by one of them, although an atk% goblet will probably be better otherwise if she's not using the Vortex Vanquisher.
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Zhongli is still good because of the res shred he provides. But his burst is on the slow side which isn't great for Raiden.
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The "C6 Fischl makes just as much energy for Eula as Raiden" note in the KQM guide fully justifies my plan of holding out for Kokomi, thankfully. I was getting antsy.
...And then there's things like Oceanid where his platform can't spawn at all because you are standing in water.
I did find out there is a way to use it with Oceanid! It is still just as much of a pain in the ass though.
Been there, done that. Easier to leave him out, though.
Hey, it's news to me. Admittedly it's been a hot minute since I've had to fight Oceanid anyway (thankfully), but I could see it being worth it to deal with Albedo's struggles in something like a Noelle team.
Ok, I have decided that the team I'm going to try out for a bit is
Eula
Zhongli
Rosaria
Baal
and see how it feels. As far as Rosaria goes, I haven't used her a ton, but I do have a R5 Favonius Spear that seems like it would be good for her cryo battery purposes. However, I do have a Staff of Homa just sitting around at level 1 that I could level up for her? would that be better, even though she would lose some ER?
My favorite line in this guide is "Zhongli will still end up finding himself on Raiden teams". Especially if you're using Bennett anyway, Zhongli is absolutely not needed on her teams, and his burst is both low cost and slow (and probably weak since most people don't build him for it). Yet, he's still Zhongli, the man who will get jammed into every team imaginable. And hey, I'm guilty of this, although I need him for geo resonance for Ningguang.
According to the charts in that guide, The Catch is a little bit better than Skyward Spine, and pulls ahead a bit if she has 200+ ER and is being buffed by Sara or Bennett. It also says you should pretty much always use an electro goblet if she's being buffed by one of them, although an atk% goblet will probably be better otherwise if she's not using the Vortex Vanquisher.
R2 lvl 90 Catch get!
Took farming two worlds but not too much effort. Good enough to use on Shogun now while keeping on fishing in the background.
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I’m an idiot. I went to check how many pufferfish I needed for the rest of the upgrades and there were only two left in the store. I had bought two but managed to forget the second one in my bag. So anyways, R3 90 now
Ok, I have decided that the team I'm going to try out for a bit is
Eula
Zhongli
Rosaria
Baal
and see how it feels. As far as Rosaria goes, I haven't used her a ton, but I do have a R5 Favonius Spear that seems like it would be good for her cryo battery purposes. However, I do have a Staff of Homa just sitting around at level 1 that I could level up for her? would that be better, even though she would lose some ER?
My first instinct is that you should absolutely level it up, but give it to Zhongli instead. Either way, I think the Fav Lance is probably a good choice for Rosaria. The Staff of Homa or another more powerful weapon would certainly increase her damage by a good bit, but it's not like the fav lance is weak.
Ok, I have decided that the team I'm going to try out for a bit is
Eula
Zhongli
Rosaria
Baal
and see how it feels. As far as Rosaria goes, I haven't used her a ton, but I do have a R5 Favonius Spear that seems like it would be good for her cryo battery purposes. However, I do have a Staff of Homa just sitting around at level 1 that I could level up for her? would that be better, even though she would lose some ER?
My first instinct is that you should absolutely level it up, but give it to Zhongli instead. Either way, I think the Fav Lance is probably a good choice for Rosaria. The Staff of Homa or another more powerful weapon would certainly increase her damage by a good bit, but it's not like the fav lance is weak.
I already have a 80/80 homa on zhongli, is the thing. And Baal has her 5* weapon as well
Ok, I have decided that the team I'm going to try out for a bit is
Eula
Zhongli
Rosaria
Baal
and see how it feels. As far as Rosaria goes, I haven't used her a ton, but I do have a R5 Favonius Spear that seems like it would be good for her cryo battery purposes. However, I do have a Staff of Homa just sitting around at level 1 that I could level up for her? would that be better, even though she would lose some ER?
My first instinct is that you should absolutely level it up, but give it to Zhongli instead. Either way, I think the Fav Lance is probably a good choice for Rosaria. The Staff of Homa or another more powerful weapon would certainly increase her damage by a good bit, but it's not like the fav lance is weak.
I already have a 80/80 homa on zhongli, is the thing. And Baal has her 5* weapon as well
Oh. That changes things. Personally I'd probably refine the staff but I can totally understand being hesitant to do that. Leveling up 5* weapons is such a pain that I wouldn't want to bother with a weapon I already have, personally. Regardless of that decision, I support giving the Favonius to Rosaria. It might result in more energy than your team actually needs, but there's something to be said for having an extra allowance for being comfy. And the base attack on the fav lance is high for a 4* anyway, so the loss isn't that huge. If you find later that you don't need that much energy, you can always invest in the other homa, or something like The Catch or Deathmatch.
Yeah, I think you're right. The whole point is to have an energy machine that supplements Baal/eula - and I still don't really understand the cycles with this team anyway so the favonius should help bridge the gap.
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I really like albedo but he doesn't make it into my team very often for this reason. Any boss that touches his skill destroys it, and unlike other geo characters with structures like Ningguang and Zhongli, it completely destroys his usefulness.
Jean would definitely be a useful pickup at some point. I've thought a few times when building parties that I wish I had her, but I don't think I'd use her a lot.
? You mean if you summon it on them? Or do they walk onto it and destroy it?
Cos for Zhongli for example you can summon it facing sideways and it wont break.
After doing a little googling, I guess it just gets destroyed. Never really thought about it having HP. Would explain why it seemed to just disappear. Seems like there are ways to mitigate that though.
If you're one of those people who think it's bad that Raiden's skill doesn't work against fully shielded enemies, just keep in mind Albedo has it way worse as far as just being nearly blank as a unit in particular encounters. He's easy enough to gear up and great when he works, but...there's a lot of times he just *doesn't* work, and it's usually in the more difficult content the game has to offer up.
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Still got a handful more chests to hunt down for the pirate thing since I bumblefucked into that like right at the end, as well as 2 electrolocus across the new islands, and the Neko and Granny dailies.
edit: found one, so only 1 more electrolocus to go
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This is not sounding like a particularly devastating drawback....
I specifically want him for Zhongli. My Zhongli is a dps. Yes I know what a waste, he solos bosses basically so not really. Anyway he doesn't have much ER and I want meteors on cooldown. I can achieve this with geo mc and good spacing of geo constructs to hit as many as possible with Zhongli's resonance but Albedo also does a lot of damage.
I am thinking of making him a second support set tho for the few times I want to use him as one.
Anyway, weekly reset means we can finally craft Electroculus resonance stones, if you've been keeping up on reputation quests anyway. Guess I gotta start making an effort to collect sakura blooms.
Yet another problem Fischl solves.
I usually unload the other character's bursts into it. Or Ganyu arrows
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1zNRM4xCufwz3oceutoRSGtw0SCiwoGNHhKXPb8enZZM/htmlview
Turns out, the prediction from earlier was spot on. With an atk% goblet instead of electro%, my Raiden's damage during her burst with no outside buffs went up by a little bit. Especially notable because my electro goblet was way better, so the fact that her damage still went up is very impressive! However, as soon as she gets buffed by Sara or Bennett, that flips completely. The attack difference suddenly isn't as substantial, relatively speaking, so the electro goblet pulls ahead by a noticeable amount.
Granted, this is with her using the Skyward Spine. Once I get The Catch (soon!) and bring it to R5 (eventually!), that will give her much less base attack and a boost to her damage%. I'm actually not sure which artifact that will benefit, though, since less base attack means the atk% goblet is going to increase it by less. If anything, it's just going to make the boost from the supports that much more of a swing.
Like, that's kinda the case for everyone to an extent, but it feels like Raiden needs to pay attention to it even more than usual.
Puffer fish are on the to-do list still mostly, and I need twice as many of those... (but every 10 of each upgrades the spear, so not as bad). I'm well ahead of schedule on the lightning fish because there's always at least 3/rotation and you only need 18 of em total.
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I got really lucky with the koi, but can't get the others to spawn... Let me know if you want to hop into my world. Should have all the koi fishing spots full.
According to the charts in that guide, The Catch is a little bit better than Skyward Spine, and pulls ahead a bit if she has 200+ ER and is being buffed by Sara or Bennett. It also says you should pretty much always use an electro goblet if she's being buffed by one of them, although an atk% goblet will probably be better otherwise if she's not using the Vortex Vanquisher.
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I did find out there is a way to use it with Oceanid! It is still just as much of a pain in the ass though.
Been there, done that. Easier to leave him out, though.
Hey, it's news to me. Admittedly it's been a hot minute since I've had to fight Oceanid anyway (thankfully), but I could see it being worth it to deal with Albedo's struggles in something like a Noelle team.
Eula
Zhongli
Rosaria
Baal
and see how it feels. As far as Rosaria goes, I haven't used her a ton, but I do have a R5 Favonius Spear that seems like it would be good for her cryo battery purposes. However, I do have a Staff of Homa just sitting around at level 1 that I could level up for her? would that be better, even though she would lose some ER?
My favorite line in the guide was "QiQi: stop"
Took farming two worlds but not too much effort. Good enough to use on Shogun now while keeping on fishing in the background.
Edit:
I’m an idiot. I went to check how many pufferfish I needed for the rest of the upgrades and there were only two left in the store. I had bought two but managed to forget the second one in my bag. So anyways, R3 90 now
My first instinct is that you should absolutely level it up, but give it to Zhongli instead. Either way, I think the Fav Lance is probably a good choice for Rosaria. The Staff of Homa or another more powerful weapon would certainly increase her damage by a good bit, but it's not like the fav lance is weak.
But yeah, give it to Zhongli and he'll be happy.
I already have a 80/80 homa on zhongli, is the thing. And Baal has her 5* weapon as well