The General [Coronavirus] Discussion Thread: Fauci's Return

Aim

Yeah, one good advice I got is to take photos of the card when you get it.

Brody

I know my state made a record of my vaccinations, you might be able to ask for a replacement if yours did as well?

Corvus

I got my AZ shot at a pharmacy here in BC, and I didn't even get a real vaccination card, just like, the kind of print out stickers you get with a standard prescription. However, socialized medicine and all, it's in my digital health records, that I can access on the web or by phone. It's a minor miracle that it works, given health IT in our province seems to be a complete shit show.

Huh, sweet, I just checked and I can log in to my health records and download/print a PDF of my vaccination card.

Grundlestiltskin

Brody wrote: »

I know my state made a record of my vaccinations, you might be able to ask for a replacement if yours did as well?

Already done. The pharmacy that sponsored the vaccine events is being kind enough to mail us the replacement cards because their nearest location is an hour away.

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Gennenalyse Rueben

My grandparents have been fully vaccinated since mid-March, I've been fully vaccinated for over a week and now, finally, my sister and mother have gotten vaccinated as well.

My sister was just procrastinating, by my mother? I was convinced she would never get vaccinated. She kept making excuses, listens to right-wing media all the time and so my assumption was that there would be an endless series of new excuses until she caught it. But nope, she's vaccinated now!

jungleroomx

Orca wrote: »

jungleroomx wrote: »

I got dizzy as hell right after my 2nd shot.

It went away pretty quickly but still freaked me the hell out

This is why the 15 minute waiting period!

This was after it.

zepherin

Gennenalyse Rueben wrote: »

My grandparents have been fully vaccinated since mid-March, I've been fully vaccinated for over a week and now, finally, my sister and mother have gotten vaccinated as well.

My sister was just procrastinating, by my mother? I was convinced she would never get vaccinated. She kept making excuses, listens to right-wing media all the time and so my assumption was that there would be an endless series of new excuses until she caught it. But nope, she's vaccinated now!

People are often unwilling to risk their lives when they want others to risk theirs. It’s like how people who have gotten the MMR vaccine try to convince other people not to vaccinate their children.

Jean

Corvus wrote: »

I got my AZ shot at a pharmacy here in BC, and I didn't even get a real vaccination card, just like, the kind of print out stickers you get with a standard prescription. However, socialized medicine and all, it's in my digital health records, that I can access on the web or by phone. It's a minor miracle that it works, given health IT in our province seems to be a complete shit show.

Huh, sweet, I just checked and I can log in to my health records and download/print a PDF of my vaccination card.

Here we get a QR code by email as vaccination proof. It's not yet clear how or even if it will be used.

zagdrob

Went to the grocery store today and our Meijer had prominent signs at the entrance 'masks are not required for fully vaccinated customers'. I was masked of course.

It made me very proud of my area, probably 95% of the people I saw were wearing masks. I'm sure it will drop as time goes on, and our area was hit pretty hard, but seeing people - most likely vaccinated - still masking up made me feel pretty good.

We can't do anything different until either the vaccine is released for under 12 or next February when our kid turns 12. Most likely this will be resolved by the end of summer, but we aren't doing anything different because of that.

Ringo

jungleroomx wrote: »

Orca wrote: »

jungleroomx wrote: »

I got dizzy as hell right after my 2nd shot.

It went away pretty quickly but still freaked me the hell out

This is why the 15 minute waiting period!

This was after it.

I think it's more helpful if you try to only have adverse reactions while still in the monitoring period. Otherwise, like, what's the point?

Phoenix-D

So, about that idea that letting vaccinated people go maskless might encourage people to get vaccinated:
https://morningconsult.com/2021/05/18/cdc-mask-guidance-comfort-poll/

Unvaccinated adults are roughly twice as likely as their vaccinated peers to say they’re OK going maskless at school, a religious gathering, sports game, concert, work conference, shopping mall or gym.

Oops.

The good news:

Fifty-one percent of unvaccinated adults, for example, are comfortable resuming their normal routines without donning a mask, compared with 34 percent of vaccinated adults.

So the actual impact will be blunted.

Riboflavin

We're working on getting back to more normal. My sister is visiting from DC and we went to several stores and lunch and everywhere we went was mask optional.
I didn't wear one all day which was kinda nice.

Drows

Got my second shot. Man, there was a lot more traffic getting there than the first one.

TetraNitroCubane

Nine members of the New York Yankees have tested positive for COVID. They were all fully vaccinated at the time of receiving a positive test.

Nine members of MLB’s New York Yankees who are vaccinated have tested positive for Covid with “breakthrough” infections.

The people who have tested positive include second baseman Gleyber Torres, pitching coach Matt Blake, third base coach Phil Nevin, first base coach Reggie Willits and five members of the Yankees’ traveling staff, the team said in a release.

“Fortunately, they’re all you know doing quite well,” Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, said Sunday.

Seven of the infected members are asymptomatic and two have mild symptoms.

And while the Yankees situation seems like a higher percentage than the general population, it’s actually likely that the CDC’s numbers are missing a lot of breakthrough cases happening in the country. That’s because testing is way down, especially for vaccinated people, says Zach Binney, an epidemiologist at Oxford College of Emory University. The CDC says that fully vaccinated people do not need to get tested following a known exposure.

The Yankees, on the other hand, “are a bit of a unique atmosphere, because all of their personnel were still being tested regularly, so that’s why we uncovered each and every case that occurred, whereas in another environment we probably wouldn’t have done that,” Binney says. (All the cases were discovered during routine daily testing.)

This is interesting for a number of reasons:

1. The fact that they are infected but mostly asymptomatic means that the vaccines are really kicking ass and doing exactly what they're supposed to.
2. The fact that they got infected at all, though, when the team is over 85% vaccinated, means that there's a good possibility the infections were passed among individuals who are infected AND vaccinated. There might've been an unvaccinated super spreader, so it's hard to say. But there's a chance here that the virus is spreading between individuals despite vaccination.
3. There's a good point being made about how most vaccinated people aren't being tested, and that the Yankees are a very special case. Otherwise it might never have been caught at all.

All of that adds up to: Bad news if you're not vaccinated. Hardly news if you are vaccinated. Here's to hoping the stragglers get their jabs soon.

Sleep

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

moniker

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

I don't even have a kid, but I have nieflings and cousins once removed and friends with kids and friends who teach middle school and it is just incredibly frustrating how their existence gets swept away by pretending that the only people without the shot are anti-vaxx Trumpers and Goop aficionados who deserve to get sick.

Shadowfire

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

Or a wife with zero b cells.

Corvus

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

I've got two five and under, and I'm just trying to keep in mind the falling case rates in my area and larger number of people being vaccinated, including starting with kids down to 12 soon here, which will mean way less covid circulating.

Nothing we can really do until the trials for vaccines for little kids finish up. Moderna has a trial in six month old plus that started in March, and there are a range of trials at other age ranges from five to six years up going on.

stopgap

I havent seen any firm information on risk to younger kids say 4 and 8. Is there any actual literature on risk.

Commander Zoom

Since this is (alas) still going on, who wants to make a new thread?

tinwhiskers

moniker wrote: »

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

I don't even have a kid, but I have nieflings and cousins once removed and friends with kids and friends who teach middle school and it is just incredibly frustrating how their existence gets swept away by pretending that the only people without the shot are anti-vaxx Trumpers and Goop aficionados who deserve to get sick.

Learned a new word today! I assumed that this was an auto-correct issue referring to some sort of tiefling esq creature. Which...is actually pretty apt.

urahonky

Went to Kroger to pick up some fruits and veggies. Apparently they lifted the mask mandate? None of the employees were wearing a mask. And only about 30% of the adults were.

Ringo

tinwhiskers wrote: »

moniker wrote: »

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

I don't even have a kid, but I have nieflings and cousins once removed and friends with kids and friends who teach middle school and it is just incredibly frustrating how their existence gets swept away by pretending that the only people without the shot are anti-vaxx Trumpers and Goop aficionados who deserve to get sick.

Learned a new word today! I assumed that this was an auto-correct issue referring to some sort of tiefling esq creature. Which...is actually pretty apt.

My google search on nieflings had 7 entries on the definition, 2 entries that used the word without being about it and then the 10th search result - "How safe is Salt Lake City?" on Quora

I assume it was a Tiefling asking and that the answer was "not very"

Tastyfish

Shadowfire wrote: »

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

Or a wife with zero b cells.

I'd have thought these new vaccines would work with T cells too?

Gilgaron

Tastyfish wrote: »

Shadowfire wrote: »

Sleep wrote: »

It's so fun having a small child that can't get vaccinated yet.

Or a wife with zero b cells.

I'd have thought these new vaccines would work with T cells too?

Without a humoral response you're going to be fighting from the back foot even if your T cells are ready

Corvus

I think niblings is the more common variation of the word for nieces and nephews.

Anyhow, we're at 50% total population with one dose now in BC, and kids down to 12 are going to start getting shots, and can get shots when a parent does, or you can take all your kids to one appointment. Pretty nice system it seems.


Edit: This part is interesting:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/covid-19/vaccine/youth

Information for youth 12 to 17
Getting vaccinated is easy. You can go to your appointment by yourself, make plans with friends to get appointments at the same time or ask a parent or trusted adult to help you.

Under the Infants Act, you can give consent as a mature minor to receive health care, like getting a vaccine.

Basically, kids can get vaccinated regardless of what their parents might think.

jungleroomx

jungleroomx wrote: »

I'm getting my 2nd shot tomorrow so I'm not too worried about myself.

I should've been more worried about myself. I'm getting fucking steamrolled right now.

Phoenix-D

SF Supervisor:

https://twitter.com/MattHaneySF/status/1395494482699718658

Zero patients with #COVID19 at San Francisco General Hospital today.

For first time since March 5th 2020, over 14 months ago.

Overwhelming gratitude to the physicians, nurses, & staff of SF General for their incredible, tireless work that has undoubtedly saved countless lives.

Meanwhile King County WA put out a health thing that's basically "please keep wearing masks indoors unless everyone is vaccinated or we hit 70%" and the replies are all "BUT YOU SAID LISTEN TO THE SCIENCE LAST YEAR" and similar bullshit, despite that being an entirely reasonable precaution. Sigh.

webguy20

Oregon continues it's downward trend. Not quite back to last summer levels but here's hoping it continues. Our deaths lagged pretty perfectly with the most current wave though. So hopefully those start dropping soon.

urahonky

jungleroomx wrote: »

jungleroomx wrote: »

I'm getting my 2nd shot tomorrow so I'm not too worried about myself.

I should've been more worried about myself. I'm getting fucking steamrolled right now.

Hopefully it breaks soon! I had 48 hours of it.

Veevee

TetraNitroCubane wrote: »

Nine members of the New York Yankees have tested positive for COVID. They were all fully vaccinated at the time of receiving a positive test.

Nine members of MLB’s New York Yankees who are vaccinated have tested positive for Covid with “breakthrough” infections.

The people who have tested positive include second baseman Gleyber Torres, pitching coach Matt Blake, third base coach Phil Nevin, first base coach Reggie Willits and five members of the Yankees’ traveling staff, the team said in a release.

“Fortunately, they’re all you know doing quite well,” Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, said Sunday.

Seven of the infected members are asymptomatic and two have mild symptoms.

And while the Yankees situation seems like a higher percentage than the general population, it’s actually likely that the CDC’s numbers are missing a lot of breakthrough cases happening in the country. That’s because testing is way down, especially for vaccinated people, says Zach Binney, an epidemiologist at Oxford College of Emory University. The CDC says that fully vaccinated people do not need to get tested following a known exposure.

The Yankees, on the other hand, “are a bit of a unique atmosphere, because all of their personnel were still being tested regularly, so that’s why we uncovered each and every case that occurred, whereas in another environment we probably wouldn’t have done that,” Binney says. (All the cases were discovered during routine daily testing.)

This is interesting for a number of reasons:

1. The fact that they are infected but mostly asymptomatic means that the vaccines are really kicking ass and doing exactly what they're supposed to.
2. The fact that they got infected at all, though, when the team is over 85% vaccinated, means that there's a good possibility the infections were passed among individuals who are infected AND vaccinated. There might've been an unvaccinated super spreader, so it's hard to say. But there's a chance here that the virus is spreading between individuals despite vaccination.
3. There's a good point being made about how most vaccinated people aren't being tested, and that the Yankees are a very special case. Otherwise it might never have been caught at all.

All of that adds up to: Bad news if you're not vaccinated. Hardly news if you are vaccinated. Here's to hoping the stragglers get their jabs soon.

And yet CBS This Morning ran a segment this morning that was all about how vaccinated people can not spread this at all and have Zero fear of spreading to unvaccinated people they interact with, so go live like you used to.

I feel this might have been some rather negligent reporting on their part...

Marathon

Veevee wrote: »

TetraNitroCubane wrote: »

Nine members of the New York Yankees have tested positive for COVID. They were all fully vaccinated at the time of receiving a positive test.

Nine members of MLB’s New York Yankees who are vaccinated have tested positive for Covid with “breakthrough” infections.

The people who have tested positive include second baseman Gleyber Torres, pitching coach Matt Blake, third base coach Phil Nevin, first base coach Reggie Willits and five members of the Yankees’ traveling staff, the team said in a release.

“Fortunately, they’re all you know doing quite well,” Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, said Sunday.

Seven of the infected members are asymptomatic and two have mild symptoms.

And while the Yankees situation seems like a higher percentage than the general population, it’s actually likely that the CDC’s numbers are missing a lot of breakthrough cases happening in the country. That’s because testing is way down, especially for vaccinated people, says Zach Binney, an epidemiologist at Oxford College of Emory University. The CDC says that fully vaccinated people do not need to get tested following a known exposure.

The Yankees, on the other hand, “are a bit of a unique atmosphere, because all of their personnel were still being tested regularly, so that’s why we uncovered each and every case that occurred, whereas in another environment we probably wouldn’t have done that,” Binney says. (All the cases were discovered during routine daily testing.)

This is interesting for a number of reasons:

1. The fact that they are infected but mostly asymptomatic means that the vaccines are really kicking ass and doing exactly what they're supposed to.
2. The fact that they got infected at all, though, when the team is over 85% vaccinated, means that there's a good possibility the infections were passed among individuals who are infected AND vaccinated. There might've been an unvaccinated super spreader, so it's hard to say. But there's a chance here that the virus is spreading between individuals despite vaccination.
3. There's a good point being made about how most vaccinated people aren't being tested, and that the Yankees are a very special case. Otherwise it might never have been caught at all.

All of that adds up to: Bad news if you're not vaccinated. Hardly news if you are vaccinated. Here's to hoping the stragglers get their jabs soon.

And yet CBS This Morning ran a segment this morning that was all about how vaccinated people can not spread this at all and have Zero fear of spreading to unvaccinated people they interact with, so go live like you used to.

I feel this might have been some rather negligent reporting on their part...

Well, until there is some info that confirms whether or not a vaccinated person did actually infect the players the current understanding is that vaccinated people do not spread the infection to others. That second point above is just speculation.

jungleroomx

urahonky wrote: »

jungleroomx wrote: »

jungleroomx wrote: »

I'm getting my 2nd shot tomorrow so I'm not too worried about myself.

I should've been more worried about myself. I'm getting fucking steamrolled right now.

Hopefully it breaks soon! I had 48 hours of it.

I drank nearly a gallon of water and slept for a solid 10 hours.

Woke up in what was probably a cold sweat a few hours before, but now was dried up and gross feeling (sheets are in the hamper).

Feel insanely better.

Hahnsoo1

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/05/ohios-53-vaccination-surge-tied-to-1m-lottery-n-y-and-md-announce-lotteries/

Filed under:

On May 13, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine announced the Buckeye State’s lottery, in which residents ages 18 and up who receive at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine can enter to win a $1 million cash prize in one of five weekly drawings. Vaccinated residents ages 12 to 17, meanwhile, can enter a lottery to win one of five full-ride college scholarships, which would cover a full four-years’ worth of tuition, room and board, and books to any Ohio state college or university.

Since the announcement, the rate of vaccination in Ohio has increased 28 percent, the state’s department of health announced Thursday. The department also noted that week-to-week vaccination counts jumped 53 percent. About 113,000 residents were vaccinated between May 13 and May 18 after the lottery began, compared with just 74,000 residents vaccinated between May 6 and May 11.

A sizable chunk of the increase is from adolescents ages 12 to 15, who became eligible to receive a Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine around the time the lottery was announced. But the health department notes that vaccinations among adults appeared to be in a free fall prior to May 13, with a 25 percent drop in vaccinations just in the weekend starting May 7, compared with the previous weekend.

On Thursday, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan stood next to a person dressed as a lottery ball as he announced his state’s $2 million “VaxCash” promotion. Starting May 25, the state will randomly select one vaccinated resident to win a $40,000 cash prize every day for 41 days, ending on July 4. Residents need not register; any Marylander vaccinated in the state will be automatically entered into the lottery.

(snip)

Meanwhile, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Thursday announced the state’s “Vax & Scratch” promotion. Residents ages 18 and up who get vaccinated at one of 10 state-run mass vaccination sites will be given a $20 state lottery scratch-off ticket for a chance to win up to $5 million.

This is also pretty ridiculous (from the article):

Gilgaron

Marathon wrote: »

Veevee wrote: »

TetraNitroCubane wrote: »

Nine members of the New York Yankees have tested positive for COVID. They were all fully vaccinated at the time of receiving a positive test.

Nine members of MLB’s New York Yankees who are vaccinated have tested positive for Covid with “breakthrough” infections.

The people who have tested positive include second baseman Gleyber Torres, pitching coach Matt Blake, third base coach Phil Nevin, first base coach Reggie Willits and five members of the Yankees’ traveling staff, the team said in a release.

“Fortunately, they’re all you know doing quite well,” Aaron Boone, Yankees manager, said Sunday.

Seven of the infected members are asymptomatic and two have mild symptoms.

And while the Yankees situation seems like a higher percentage than the general population, it’s actually likely that the CDC’s numbers are missing a lot of breakthrough cases happening in the country. That’s because testing is way down, especially for vaccinated people, says Zach Binney, an epidemiologist at Oxford College of Emory University. The CDC says that fully vaccinated people do not need to get tested following a known exposure.

The Yankees, on the other hand, “are a bit of a unique atmosphere, because all of their personnel were still being tested regularly, so that’s why we uncovered each and every case that occurred, whereas in another environment we probably wouldn’t have done that,” Binney says. (All the cases were discovered during routine daily testing.)

This is interesting for a number of reasons:

1. The fact that they are infected but mostly asymptomatic means that the vaccines are really kicking ass and doing exactly what they're supposed to.
2. The fact that they got infected at all, though, when the team is over 85% vaccinated, means that there's a good possibility the infections were passed among individuals who are infected AND vaccinated. There might've been an unvaccinated super spreader, so it's hard to say. But there's a chance here that the virus is spreading between individuals despite vaccination.
3. There's a good point being made about how most vaccinated people aren't being tested, and that the Yankees are a very special case. Otherwise it might never have been caught at all.

All of that adds up to: Bad news if you're not vaccinated. Hardly news if you are vaccinated. Here's to hoping the stragglers get their jabs soon.

And yet CBS This Morning ran a segment this morning that was all about how vaccinated people can not spread this at all and have Zero fear of spreading to unvaccinated people they interact with, so go live like you used to.

I feel this might have been some rather negligent reporting on their part...

Well, until there is some info that confirms whether or not a vaccinated person did actually infect the players the current understanding is that vaccinated people do not spread the infection to others. That second point above is just speculation.

Agreed, many (all?) sports teams are doing fairly constant surveillance testing so if this was a widespread phenomena I feel like we should have known already, but if it is legit and new there should be confirmation from other sports teams soon enough.

jungleroomx

City is completely maskless except for hospitals/clinics and rest homes.

We're at 70% at least one shot of Moderna (40% fully) had 20 cases last week and no deaths since early March, so maybe it's time?

Either way walking into a gas station maskless felt wrong.

skippydumptruck

Oregon's getting in on the lottery payout as vaccine incentive train too, toot toot

1 $1M winner statewide, 1 $10k winner from each county (yay for residents of Wheeler County, pop. 1440), and 5 100k scholarships for kiddos

moniker

I am so annoyed that this is going to work.

Quid

I'm annoyed it's going to work.

I'm excited I get to finally participate in a lottery.