Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I was this many years old when I realized that the stupid fucking rap ends with "GOTTA GO FOR THE
ONE PIECE IT'S THE NAME OF THE TREASURE
ON THE GRAND LINE"
Jesus. Christ.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
THIS WAS MURDER. MURRRRDDDEERRRRRRRRRRR. Most commenters wave it away as our little heroine just exercising self defense or defense of property, but if it toddler attacks you, you can't respond with deadly force and call it justified self defense.
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DHSChase lizards.....bark at donkeys..Registered Userregular
I was this many years old when I realized that the stupid fucking rap ends with "GOTTA GO FOR THE
ONE PIECE IT'S THE NAME OF THE TREASURE
ON THE GRAND LINE"
Jesus. Christ.
in almost 15 years since i started following One Piece i have never once willingly watched a second of the Pirate Rap and i will take that to my grave.
"Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
i unironically love it. more descriptive anime raps please
One Piece rap is the best thing 4kids ever produced.
Like, people who don't like one piece will look at it and go "what is this shit", but it unintentionally managed to land in precisely the manic ridiculousness that one piece actually is. It's great. If you like the series, there's a decent chance you'll find it hilarious.
THIS WAS MURDER. MURRRRDDDEERRRRRRRRRRR. Most commenters wave it away as our little heroine just exercising self defense or defense of property, but if it toddler attacks you, you can't respond with deadly force and call it justified self defense.
They werent toddlers and she probably heard them say they were there to kill her. Also its the second home that was burned down shes probably pissed
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It's self-defense. The problem is that neither party understands one another, and Spider... looks like a goddamned spider and not the version she imagines herself to look like. It wasn't going to end well either way.
I was just confused because people were talking about comparing it with 3.0 which I thought was the first film in this new reboot so I though it was yet another reboot film.
I mean, can you blame me. Would you put it past them? The name doesn't help.
There are four Rebuild of Evangelion movies.
Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone
Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance
Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo
Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time
The first one is fairly close to being a remake of the first six-ish episodes of the show, with some added weirdness, and the second movie diverges more but roughly lines up with events up to episode 20ish... but then it just completely diverges into its own thing.
I also haven't really looked into 3.0+1.0 spoilers but, well, from the release of the first movie I'm pretty sure people have been suspicious about it not being a reboot. Episode 26 of the TV series is probably the key to sorting out the entire continuity mess, not even joking in the slightest. And yes, I'm including the high school AU in that.
And also there are .33 versions of the first three movies, but that just means it's the Blu-Ray release.
So we have any info what's in store for it after episode 170? Break until the manga catches up?
I am guessing hiatus until source material builds up (which is slow going, since the author has been ~16 pages a week instead of 20 for a while now, and a lot of them are (kickass looking) one-frame two-page spreads).
I also think they're getting a movie announcement, but I'm less confident in that guess.
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So I'm caught up to spider #10 which I think is current.
I was correct that the spider stuff was happening before the academy stuff.
But are we just seeing a villain origin story of how she turned into that spider themed demon lord who's doing all the murders? Cause I'm not really interested in that.
I looked ahead
Its not going where you think
I'm not really looking ahead, but I did read your spoiler. Regardless:
Kumoko just massacred a whole bunch of humans when she's powerful enough to drive them away without murdering them, and then post-credits she tries to justify it/handwave it away for the audience.
I still like Spider as of episode 10, but:
She's too happy go lucky to be Evil with a capital E, but she is doing evil shit left and right. I get the inkling the author will try to justify Kumoko.
It was interesting seeing the human's perspective of Kumoko and how terrifying she is.
I was just confused because people were talking about comparing it with 3.0 which I thought was the first film in this new reboot so I though it was yet another reboot film.
I mean, can you blame me. Would you put it past them? The name doesn't help.
There are four Rebuild of Evangelion movies.
Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone
Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance
Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo
Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time
The first one is fairly close to being a remake of the first six-ish episodes of the show, with some added weirdness, and the second movie diverges more but roughly lines up with events up to episode 20ish... but then it just completely diverges into its own thing.
I also haven't really looked into 3.0+1.0 spoilers but, well, from the release of the first movie I'm pretty sure people have been suspicious about it not being a reboot. Episode 26 of the TV series is probably the key to sorting out the entire continuity mess, not even joking in the slightest. And yes, I'm including the high school AU in that.
And also there are .33 versions of the first three movies, but that just means it's the Blu-Ray release.
To be specific, they're 1.11, 2.22, and 3.33. I expect that the next one will presumably be 3.33+1.11 or something weird like that.
There's also 1.01 (limited edition DVD release, minor improvements and goodies - actual animation frames were included), but I don't think they ever did a similar thing for the other two movies.
THIS WAS MURDER. MURRRRDDDEERRRRRRRRRRR. Most commenters wave it away as our little heroine just exercising self defense or defense of property, but if it toddler attacks you, you can't respond with deadly force and call it justified self defense.
They werent toddlers and she probably heard them say they were there to kill her. Also its the second home that was burned down shes probably pissed
Yeah, it's established that she doesn't speak or understand the language of that world's humans. They were there, armed, having burned down yet another of her houses, and brandishing their weapons at her after she has a history of armed men chasing her down tunnels trying to kill her. It's understandable that she responded with force that escalated to lethal.
Ironically, if they had just let the sorcerer go up and investigate her like he wanted to everybody probably would have been saved.
i unironically love it. more descriptive anime raps please
Not a rap, but the ending song to My Neighbor Totoro pretty much summarises exactly what you've just watched (spoilered in case you haven't watched My Neighbor Totoro, I guess):
Who leaves the seeds,
For you to find?
Follow them and you will see,
a treasure there.
[...]
You only see him when you're very young,
a magical adventure for you!
It's magic for you.
Rain tumbles down...
the bus is late.
Suddenly, a furry wet giant
is by your side!
Don't be afraid...
just open wide!
Your umbrella for him,
watch him play in the rain!
[...]
And on a moonlit night,
he plays a magic flute in the sky!
or the ending to Ponyo does the same sort of thing, if you somehow hadn't noticed:
Ponyo, Ponyo, Ponyo, fishy in the sea
Tiny little fishy, who could you really be?
Ponyo, Ponyo, Ponyo, magic sets you free
Oh, she's a little girl with a round tummy
[...]
or the ending theme to Arrietty -- I think it's the complete directness that does it:
Yeah, it reads less like murder and more like a misunderstanding that could have been solved with talk no jutsu, and almost was.
Anyways, Kumoko obviously turned into an extremely evil demon lord and TOTALLY murdered the hero in cold blood and the Hero title can never ever ever be transferred EVER unless the person dies and was conveniently transferred to someone who could possibly resist the effects of the Hero title and be reasoned with thanks to being an Isekai protagonist.
And the teacher elf is TOTALLY absolutely the teacher and NOT Kumoko in disguise she’s just randomly absent all the time everybody what’s that the demon lord is randomly absent all the time that’s just a coincidence and elf teacher also has admin privileges and just so happened to track everyone down and is able to edit skills(or Kumoko 100% found her first.)
I have a feeling Spider is picking up that plotline that Overlord just fucking dropped for no reason, with our Isekai’d characters personalities being tampered with/overwritten to make an “interesting story.” for D, who’s watching this like a videogame admin/anime, and Kumoko’s taking steps to undermine them/protect her classmates at the very least.
Reasons for my/more rampant speculation!
1. Kumoko seems to know our isekai boy’s relationship to his brother in detail, “eh, I’ll feel bad for forgettable isekai protagonist.”(when contemplating killing the Hero.
2. Our Hero actually wants peace, so I wager a guess he did something at the last minute that caused he and Kumoko to come to an understanding, but since he’s not a isekai she took care of the real problem and transferred the hero title.
3. “Elf teacher”’s insistence on declaring skills a bad thing, immediately juxtaposed with Kumoko reveling in skills. I’d wager this he director being a bit too clever for their own good, but that justaposition is only used for two things, to indicate a rival character, or immediately contrast a character with how they previously felt. This is probably my main argument that Elf teacher is Kumoko and not just the actual teacher in contact with Kumoko. She’s keeping secrets from the kids for essentially no reason, like the location of the other kids, and most importantly, seems to know he exact status of every single one of them, including possible non-human ones, but claims Kumoko isn’t just missing, but dead, which we now know is an obvious lie.
Anyways, this isn’t tied to anything at all, but I like how they subtly confirm how much time has passed in the Wizard vs Kumoko fight, and indeed, it has literally not even been a YEAR since she hatched.
I really like this show, as even with the biggest mystery solved “does Kumoko get out of the cave/have a human form.”, what I really want to see is that 15 years that she spent tracking down the other isekai’s and literally every piece of information in that time gap.
Yeah, it reads less like murder and more like a misunderstanding that could have been solved with talk no jutsu, and almost was.
Anyways, Kumoko obviously turned into an extremely evil demon lord and TOTALLY murdered the hero in cold blood and the Hero title can never ever ever be transferred EVER unless the person dies and was conveniently transferred to someone who could possibly resist the effects of the Hero title and be reasoned with thanks to being an Isekai protagonist.
And the teacher elf is TOTALLY absolutely the teacher and NOT Kumoko in disguise she’s just randomly absent all the time everybody what’s that the demon lord is randomly absent all the time that’s just a coincidence and elf teacher also has admin privileges and just so happened to track everyone down and is able to edit skills(or Kumoko 100% found her first.)
I have a feeling Spider is picking up that plotline that Overlord just fucking dropped for no reason, with our Isekai’d characters personalities being tampered with/overwritten to make an “interesting story.” for D, who’s watching this like a videogame admin/anime, and Kumoko’s taking steps to undermine them/protect her classmates at the very least.
Reasons for my/more rampant speculation!
1. Kumoko seems to know our isekai boy’s relationship to his brother in detail, “eh, I’ll feel bad for forgettable isekai protagonist.”(when contemplating killing the Hero.
2. Our Hero actually wants peace, so I wager a guess he did something at the last minute that caused he and Kumoko to come to an understanding, but since he’s not a isekai she took care of the real problem and transferred the hero title.
3. “Elf teacher”’s insistence on declaring skills a bad thing, immediately juxtaposed with Kumoko reveling in skills. I’d wager this he director being a bit too clever for their own good, but that justaposition is only used for two things, to indicate a rival character, or immediately contrast how a character with how they previously felt. This is probably my main argument that Elf teacher is Kumoko and not just the actual teacher in contact with Kumoko. She’s keeping secrets from the kids for essentially no reason, like the location of the other kids, and most importantly, seems to know he exact status of every single one of them, including possible non-human ones, but claims Kumoko isn’t just missing, but dead, which we now know is an obvious lie.
Anyways, this isn’t tied to anything at all, but I like how they subtly confirm how much time has passed in the Wizard vs Kumoko fight, and indeed, it has literally not even been a YEAR since she hatched.
I really like this show, as even with the biggest mystery solved “does Kumoko get out of the cave/have a human form.”, what I really want to see is that 15 years that she spent tracking down the other isekai’s and literally every piece of information in that time gap.
Kumoko isn't the only one the teacher claimed was dead, though.
Horimiya opening with some casual homophobia today and a much more typical romance anime episode after and was not as good as the previous stuff. Show is kinda meandering now.
As far as spider, the show has been subverting expectations a lot so far and I agree with the folks who say this isn’t gonna be another overlord. Excited to see how it plays out.
Apropos of nothing sometimes I think about the "Never Knows Best" cigarette shot from FLCL and how it's the most angsty MySpace ass hot topic shit and how much I fuckin love it unironically
So I'm caught up to spider #10 which I think is current.
I was correct that the spider stuff was happening before the academy stuff.
But are we just seeing a villain origin story of how she turned into that spider themed demon lord who's doing all the murders? Cause I'm not really interested in that.
I looked ahead
Its not going where you think
I'm not really looking ahead, but I did read your spoiler. Regardless:
Kumoko just massacred a whole bunch of humans when she's powerful enough to drive them away without murdering them, and then post-credits she tries to justify it/handwave it away for the audience.
I still like Spider as of episode 10, but:
She's too happy go lucky to be Evil with a capital E, but she is doing evil shit left and right. I get the inkling the author will try to justify Kumoko.
It was interesting seeing the human's perspective of Kumoko and how terrifying she is.
So I'm caught up to spider #10 which I think is current.
I was correct that the spider stuff was happening before the academy stuff.
But are we just seeing a villain origin story of how she turned into that spider themed demon lord who's doing all the murders? Cause I'm not really interested in that.
I looked ahead
Its not going where you think
I'm not really looking ahead, but I did read your spoiler. Regardless:
Kumoko just massacred a whole bunch of humans when she's powerful enough to drive them away without murdering them, and then post-credits she tries to justify it/handwave it away for the audience.
I still like Spider as of episode 10, but:
She's too happy go lucky to be Evil with a capital E, but she is doing evil shit left and right. I get the inkling the author will try to justify Kumoko.
It was interesting seeing the human's perspective of Kumoko and how terrifying she is.
I gotta give you some pushback on this at least a LITTLE bit.
As someone with an "alternate" skin color who has had to deal with the predominant "race" of an area feeling like it's it's moral imperative to kill my "kind" indiscriminately in their homes I'm not gonna lose sleep on people who fucked around and found out.
Just because she's more powerful then them she's supposed to handwave the SECOND time they tried to murder her in her home?
But guys she's a BIG SCARY SPIDER WHO WAS HULKING UP AND COMING RIGHT AT ME AFTER I KICKED THEIR DOOR DOWN AND POINTED A GUN AT THEM with the INTENT TO MURDER THEM.
But yes she should ABSOLUTELY understand she's a BIG SCARY BLACK MAN and in that situation where some white dude is pointing a gun at them in her home SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND RECOGNIZE SHE'S A BIG SCARY BLACK MAN AND JUST RUN AWAY!!!
I went a little bit harder than I should have, sorry, but yeah, the rhetoric you used hit a little too close to home. Just because they're humans doesn't mean you can't defend yourself when they're trying to MURDER YOU because you are big and scary.
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So I'm caught up to spider #10 which I think is current.
I was correct that the spider stuff was happening before the academy stuff.
But are we just seeing a villain origin story of how she turned into that spider themed demon lord who's doing all the murders? Cause I'm not really interested in that.
I looked ahead
Its not going where you think
I'm not really looking ahead, but I did read your spoiler. Regardless:
Kumoko just massacred a whole bunch of humans when she's powerful enough to drive them away without murdering them, and then post-credits she tries to justify it/handwave it away for the audience.
I still like Spider as of episode 10, but:
She's too happy go lucky to be Evil with a capital E, but she is doing evil shit left and right. I get the inkling the author will try to justify Kumoko.
It was interesting seeing the human's perspective of Kumoko and how terrifying she is.
I gotta give you some pushback on this at least a LITTLE bit.
As someone with an "alternate" skin color who has had to deal with the predominant "race" of an area feeling like it's it's moral imperative to kill my "kind" indiscriminately in their homes I'm not gonna lose sleep on people who fucked around and found out.
Just because she's more powerful then them she's supposed to handwave the SECOND time they tried to murder her in her home?
But guys she's a BIG SCARY SPIDER WHO WAS HULKING UP AND COMING RIGHT AT ME AFTER I KICKED THEIR DOOR DOWN AND POINTED A GUN AT THEM with the INTENT TO MURDER THEM.
But yes she should ABSOLUTELY understand she's a BIG SCARY BLACK MAN and in that situation where some white dude is pointing a gun at them in her home SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND RECOGNIZE SHE'S A BIG SCARY BLACK MAN AND JUST RUN AWAY!!!
I went a little bit harder than I should have, sorry, but yeah, the rhetoric you used hit a little too close to home. Just because they're humans doesn't mean you can't defend yourself when they're trying to MURDER YOU because you are big and scary.
Whelp,
I'm showing my privilege, since I didn't even consider that perspective. Sorry, I wasn't trying to mean it that way.
The thing that irked me about the scene was the author hand-waving Kumoko's guilt about the situation. If she's really a high school girl, I would think she would have some compunction about murdering all those humans.
Instead she's either:
A) fully embracing being a monster/spider dehumanizing the humans because she's treating this whole adventure like a game, and they're just NPCs
Or maybe she just lacks perspective on herself that's she's a scary looking spider monster.
Again, sorry if I've given offense, I will own my words had that connotation besides my intent behind them. Should I just drop it?
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THIS WAS MURDER. MURRRRDDDEERRRRRRRRRRR. Most commenters wave it away as our little heroine just exercising self defense or defense of property, but if it toddler attacks you, you can't respond with deadly force and call it justified self defense.
Aside from the fact that these were adults and not toddlers
1. Stand your Ground: While some places say that you have a right to stand your ground anywhere, a lot of places say you have a duty to retreat and not use lethal force unless it becomes necessary. There is an exception for this when you are inside your own home. If you're inside your home what you can do to defend yourself changes simply because you're supposed to be safe there and there is no place to retreat to
2. If someone, even a gat damn child, comes at you with lethal force you can defend yourself with lethal force in many circumstances.
3. These are not children these are adults and she did not attack first at all, even when her home was invaded.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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I liked Megalobox but no sports anime has dethroned Hajime No Ippo for me.
Also for all the problematic 80s shit in Ippo nothing makes me cringe as hard as that rap scene from the first season of Megalobox. Never do that again please.
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Horimiya opening with some casual homophobia today and a much more typical romance anime episode after and was not as good as the previous stuff. Show is kinda meandering now.
As far as spider, the show has been subverting expectations a lot so far and I agree with the folks who say this isn’t gonna be another overlord. Excited to see how it plays out.
Once Horimiya gets past the initial setup, it's a very meandering series.
I liked Megalobox but no sports anime has dethroned Hajime No Ippo for me.
Also for all the problematic 80s shit in Ippo nothing makes me cringe as hard as that rap scene from the first season of Megalobox. Never do that again please.
THIS WAS MURDER. MURRRRDDDEERRRRRRRRRRR. Most commenters wave it away as our little heroine just exercising self defense or defense of property, but if it toddler attacks you, you can't respond with deadly force and call it justified self defense.
Aside from the fact that these were adults and not toddlers
1. Stand your Ground: While some places say that you have a right to stand your ground anywhere, a lot of places say you have a duty to retreat and not use lethal force unless it becomes necessary. There is an exception for this when you are inside your own home. If you're inside your home what you can do to defend yourself changes simply because you're supposed to be safe there and there is no place to retreat to
2. If someone, even a gat damn child, comes at you with lethal force you can defend yourself with lethal force in many circumstances.
3. These are not children these are adults and she did not attack first at all, even when her home was invaded.
You're right, less adults and toddlers and more adults and a literal GOD beyond human understanding. The strongest human mage in the world said as much.
Also legality doesn't equal ethics. Legally you can kill people because they're trying to destroy or steal your property. Ethically you cannot kill people if your life isn't in any danger.
The ethical thing to do would be to just leave the situation.
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pretty concise plot summary, actually.
I personally think it is fuckin fantastic
easy question to answer, gimme ninety seconds
I was this many years old when I realized that the stupid fucking rap ends with "GOTTA GO FOR THE
ONE PIECE
IT'S THE NAME OF THE TREASURE
ON THE GRAND LINE"
Jesus. Christ.
in almost 15 years since i started following One Piece i have never once willingly watched a second of the Pirate Rap and i will take that to my grave.
One Piece rap is the best thing 4kids ever produced.
Like, people who don't like one piece will look at it and go "what is this shit", but it unintentionally managed to land in precisely the manic ridiculousness that one piece actually is. It's great. If you like the series, there's a decent chance you'll find it hilarious.
This is good commercial
This will be here until I receive an apology or Weedlordvegeta get any consequences for being a bully
And also there are .33 versions of the first three movies, but that just means it's the Blu-Ray release.
I am guessing hiatus until source material builds up (which is slow going, since the author has been ~16 pages a week instead of 20 for a while now, and a lot of them are (kickass looking) one-frame two-page spreads).
I also think they're getting a movie announcement, but I'm less confident in that guess.
I'm not really looking ahead, but I did read your spoiler. Regardless:
I still like Spider as of episode 10, but:
It was interesting seeing the human's perspective of Kumoko and how terrifying she is.
To be specific, they're 1.11, 2.22, and 3.33. I expect that the next one will presumably be 3.33+1.11 or something weird like that.
There's also 1.01 (limited edition DVD release, minor improvements and goodies - actual animation frames were included), but I don't think they ever did a similar thing for the other two movies.
Ironically, if they had just let the sorcerer go up and investigate her like he wanted to everybody probably would have been saved.
And You Say Run
Not a rap, but the ending song to My Neighbor Totoro pretty much summarises exactly what you've just watched (spoilered in case you haven't watched My Neighbor Totoro, I guess):
or the ending to Ponyo does the same sort of thing, if you somehow hadn't noticed:
or the ending theme to Arrietty -- I think it's the complete directness that does it:
Anyways, Kumoko obviously turned into an extremely evil demon lord and TOTALLY murdered the hero in cold blood and the Hero title can never ever ever be transferred EVER unless the person dies and was conveniently transferred to someone who could possibly resist the effects of the Hero title and be reasoned with thanks to being an Isekai protagonist.
And the teacher elf is TOTALLY absolutely the teacher and NOT Kumoko in disguise she’s just randomly absent all the time everybody what’s that the demon lord is randomly absent all the time that’s just a coincidence and elf teacher also has admin privileges and just so happened to track everyone down and is able to edit skills(or Kumoko 100% found her first.)
I have a feeling Spider is picking up that plotline that Overlord just fucking dropped for no reason, with our Isekai’d characters personalities being tampered with/overwritten to make an “interesting story.” for D, who’s watching this like a videogame admin/anime, and Kumoko’s taking steps to undermine them/protect her classmates at the very least.
Reasons for my/more rampant speculation!
1. Kumoko seems to know our isekai boy’s relationship to his brother in detail, “eh, I’ll feel bad for forgettable isekai protagonist.”(when contemplating killing the Hero.
2. Our Hero actually wants peace, so I wager a guess he did something at the last minute that caused he and Kumoko to come to an understanding, but since he’s not a isekai she took care of the real problem and transferred the hero title.
3. “Elf teacher”’s insistence on declaring skills a bad thing, immediately juxtaposed with Kumoko reveling in skills. I’d wager this he director being a bit too clever for their own good, but that justaposition is only used for two things, to indicate a rival character, or immediately contrast a character with how they previously felt. This is probably my main argument that Elf teacher is Kumoko and not just the actual teacher in contact with Kumoko. She’s keeping secrets from the kids for essentially no reason, like the location of the other kids, and most importantly, seems to know he exact status of every single one of them, including possible non-human ones, but claims Kumoko isn’t just missing, but dead, which we now know is an obvious lie.
Anyways, this isn’t tied to anything at all, but I like how they subtly confirm how much time has passed in the Wizard vs Kumoko fight, and indeed, it has literally not even been a YEAR since she hatched.
I really like this show, as even with the biggest mystery solved “does Kumoko get out of the cave/have a human form.”, what I really want to see is that 15 years that she spent tracking down the other isekai’s and literally every piece of information in that time gap.
As far as spider, the show has been subverting expectations a lot so far and I agree with the folks who say this isn’t gonna be another overlord. Excited to see how it plays out.
"What should we do for the sequel's opening?"
"Remix and add rap!"
It's so early '00s. You're an angel, yo yo yo.
Deku vs Todoroki comes close though.
PSN: Robo_Wizard1
Bonus: it's a remix with rap
I gotta give you some pushback on this at least a LITTLE bit.
Just because she's more powerful then them she's supposed to handwave the SECOND time they tried to murder her in her home?
But guys she's a BIG SCARY SPIDER WHO WAS HULKING UP AND COMING RIGHT AT ME AFTER I KICKED THEIR DOOR DOWN AND POINTED A GUN AT THEM with the INTENT TO MURDER THEM.
But yes she should ABSOLUTELY understand she's a BIG SCARY BLACK MAN and in that situation where some white dude is pointing a gun at them in her home SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND RECOGNIZE SHE'S A BIG SCARY BLACK MAN AND JUST RUN AWAY!!!
I went a little bit harder than I should have, sorry, but yeah, the rhetoric you used hit a little too close to home. Just because they're humans doesn't mean you can't defend yourself when they're trying to MURDER YOU because you are big and scary.
Whelp,
The thing that irked me about the scene was the author hand-waving Kumoko's guilt about the situation. If she's really a high school girl, I would think she would have some compunction about murdering all those humans.
Instead she's either:
A) fully embracing being a monster/spider
Or maybe she just lacks perspective on herself that's she's a scary looking spider monster.
Again, sorry if I've given offense, I will own my words had that connotation besides my intent behind them. Should I just drop it?
Ooohhh this looks good.
1. Stand your Ground: While some places say that you have a right to stand your ground anywhere, a lot of places say you have a duty to retreat and not use lethal force unless it becomes necessary. There is an exception for this when you are inside your own home. If you're inside your home what you can do to defend yourself changes simply because you're supposed to be safe there and there is no place to retreat to
2. If someone, even a gat damn child, comes at you with lethal force you can defend yourself with lethal force in many circumstances.
3. These are not children these are adults and she did not attack first at all, even when her home was invaded.
Also for all the problematic 80s shit in Ippo nothing makes me cringe as hard as that rap scene from the first season of Megalobox. Never do that again please.
Once Horimiya gets past the initial setup, it's a very meandering series.
Also legality doesn't equal ethics. Legally you can kill people because they're trying to destroy or steal your property. Ethically you cannot kill people if your life isn't in any danger.
The ethical thing to do would be to just leave the situation.