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Let's all complain about the [job] thread

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    Or just buy commercial liquor. Please don't drink anything that comes from a laboratory.

    Unless its the lab at the Jack Daniels distillery

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  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    Or just buy commercial liquor. Please don't drink anything that comes from a laboratory.

    In our mad max future once the liquor store has been emptied (around day 2) people are def coming for the labs though.

    I appreciate the optimism that the graduate students would not have already absconded with the good stuff and/or have not already lit the labs on fire themselves.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    I have another interview at a second place today. I'm basically taking this interview as practice because it doesn't pay well enough for the long commute but whatever.

    I'm taking all opportunities at this point.

    Yo I fucking nailed this interview holy shit.

    The listing I responded to was very generic for a graphic designer, but it turns out they're backfilling two people in the creative team and also hoping to expand so there are several different roles, and the creative director was interested in me for a more senior leadership position with potentially a higher salary than advertised.

    It's also really interesting work and I feel like it would super challenging and fulfilling.

    And I knocked it out of the park.

    I'm so pumped.

    Yea, buddy!!

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  • JedocJedoc Bringing the past to life so we can beat it to death with a shovelRegistered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Baidol wrote: »
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    Or just buy commercial liquor. Please don't drink anything that comes from a laboratory.

    In our mad max future once the liquor store has been emptied (around day 2) people are def coming for the labs though.

    I appreciate the optimism that the graduate students would not have already absconded with the good stuff and/or have not already lit the labs on fire themselves.

    And later, all the Mad Max stuff starts.

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  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Baidol wrote: »
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    Or just buy commercial liquor. Please don't drink anything that comes from a laboratory.

    Unless its the lab at the Jack Daniels distillery

    No, the same advice would still apply.

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    So I just microdose it until my body becomes immune to the poison right? Check mate chemists.

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  • Kayne Red RobeKayne Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Baidol wrote: »
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    Or just buy commercial liquor. Please don't drink anything that comes from a laboratory.

    In our mad max future once the liquor store has been emptied (around day 2) people are def coming for the labs though.

    I appreciate the optimism that the graduate students would not have already absconded with the good stuff and/or have not already lit the labs on fire themselves.

    It's definitely the latter. Always bet on fire.

  • CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    Carpy wrote: »
    I'm on a mailing list in the middle of a reply-all-pocalypse and the 11 year old is doing a zoom group project and I'm fasting for a lab test and can I please just crawl under my table and take a nap until this all stops

    And now people have started emailing the list directly asking to be taken off the list and people are replying to those asking to get taken off, all with different subjects so I have 18 email threads of people asking to get taken off this list. This damn day needs to end

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    See, this is how I know I'm am old. I would grab the water purification filters before the ethanol during civilisation's collapse

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  • QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Baidol wrote: »
    Please note, while the aqua vitae was safe for the alechemists to drink, they were literally just distilling strong wine a lot of the time, so essentially they were making unaged brandy of one sort or another. What we have in the lab is ironically distilled to very high purity, and then small amounts of potent poisons are added to "de-nature" it, so we can buy it without paying liquor tax, because if you drink it you will likely at least go blind. So if you DO raid a lab, make sure you have a still and a good method you trust to not carry over methanol or other nasties. Likely more productive than starting from mash again, but I'd still say just go back to mash if you are already distilling.

    Or just buy commercial liquor. Please don't drink anything that comes from a laboratory.

    In our mad max future once the liquor store has been emptied (around day 2) people are def coming for the labs though.

    I appreciate the optimism that the graduate students would not have already absconded with the good stuff and/or have not already lit the labs on fire themselves.

    I'm not saying I saw a man write his initials in ethanol on the bench and light it on fire after his defense. I'm also not not saying that.

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  • Kayne Red RobeKayne Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    My work phone just lit up with an *URGENT* meeting notice for tomorrow morning at 0730.

  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Ah.

    Half eight.

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  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    What's the old timey alchemy name for ethanol?

    Aqua Vitae or "spirit of wine"

    That's the one! Fricken early chemists were definitely drinking that shit.

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    The missing ae is important when you're looking for a drink

    dill and anise?

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    Weird herbal alcohol started out as medicinal tinctures/a way of preserving nutritious plant essences for use year round. Then people got used to the taste and started drinking them recreationally.* Explains a lot really.

    *this is exactly what happened and you can't convince me otherwise :razz:

    Jedoc wrote: »
    The GOP cares about babies until they're born, soldiers until they're in need of care, and families until they interfere with stockholder dividends.
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  • JedocJedoc Bringing the past to life so we can beat it to death with a shovelRegistered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    What's the old timey alchemy name for ethanol?

    Aqua Vitae or "spirit of wine"

    That's the one! Fricken early chemists were definitely drinking that shit.

    102611_copenhagen-dill_anise_aquavit_500.jpg
    The missing ae is important when you're looking for a drink

    dill and anise?

    uber barf

    Weird herbal alcohol started out as medicinal tinctures/a way of preserving nutritious plant essences for use year round. Then people got used to the taste and started drinking them recreationally.* Explains a lot really.

    *this is exactly what happened and you can't convince me otherwise :razz:

    Unfortunately, Admiral Nelson Rum has a similar origin story.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I've done it. I now own half a business.

    This is the worst decision I've made.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    What's the old timey alchemy name for ethanol?

    Aqua Vitae or "spirit of wine"

    That's the one! Fricken early chemists were definitely drinking that shit.

    102611_copenhagen-dill_anise_aquavit_500.jpg
    The missing ae is important when you're looking for a drink

    dill and anise?

    uber barf

    Weird herbal alcohol started out as medicinal tinctures/a way of preserving nutritious plant essences for use year round. Then people got used to the taste and started drinking them recreationally.* Explains a lot really.

    *this is exactly what happened and you can't convince me otherwise :razz:

    Unfortunately, Admiral Nelson Rum has a similar origin story.

    When you try to preserve the dead body of war hero at sea, your options are extremely limited.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I've done it. I now own half a business.

    This is the worst decision I've made.

    My congratuldolonces.

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  • JedocJedoc Bringing the past to life so we can beat it to death with a shovelRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I've done it. I now own half a business.

    This is the worst decision I've made.

    Hell yeah! What do you manufacture? Jimcrackery? Folderol? I've been looking for a new folderol supplier ever since my last guy got caught up in a sting.

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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I am looking for a new job.

    You can’t tell me I’m paying for my own health care and then try to console me with a raise that doesn’t cover the new cost of healthcare and expect me to go “oh, sure, no problem”.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I've done it. I now own half a business.

    This is the worst decision I've made.

    Hell yeah! What do you manufacture? Jimcrackery? Folderol? I've been looking for a new folderol supplier ever since my last guy got caught up in a sting.

    Pure synergy, the purest you'll find this side of the moon.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    So you writer / editor types who may or may not consider yourselves professionals, how much would you charge for a copyedit freelance gig? Wife is starting off as a writer and someone wanted to hire her to do copyedit of their work for them, but she has no fucking clue how much to charge.

  • DynagripDynagrip Destroy Everything You Touch HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    My (hopefully last) phone screen with Relativity went really well. The guy said they're trying to figure out where I would fit best, which is why it's kind of taking so long. Next step would also be a presentation followed by one on one interviews. Fortunately I just happen to have a presentation ready to go. Would just need to strip out all references to Blue Origin. Also, I got vaccinated yesterday with the J&J one. Things are going pretty good.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Tox wrote: »
    So you writer / editor types who may or may not consider yourselves professionals, how much would you charge for a copyedit freelance gig? Wife is starting off as a writer and someone wanted to hire her to do copyedit of their work for them, but she has no fucking clue how much to charge.

    There's a thought experiment that I've used to calculate freelance rates that worked for me.

    Imagine yourself working the job someone is asking you to do at the level of ability you have, only in a 9-5 office setting with 40 hours a week and healthcare and paid vacation. Imagine how much you think that job is worth per hour.

    For freelance, you're doing the same work, only without the benefits and perks you get from that office job - without the stability, without the healthcare, without someone doing sales and accounting and HR services for you, so you have to charge for those things as well.

    In my experience, a good rule of thumb is imagine yourself in that office job, take the hourly wage you think that work is worth and double it. That's your freelance rate.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited March 18
    Rule of thumb for me, at least in the US, is if you're actually serious about surviving and thriving : quadruple your hourly rate. Even that's probably still too low, ~40-60% is technically gone as soon as you cash that check since you're now covering employer side taxes (income/medicare/ssi/disability) + you'll have to buy your own insurances and licenses.

    For instance: if you're a software engineer in the US, and your hourly is $60, depending on the size of who you work for, your company is probably ballpark earning about $400-1000 an hour for your labor. Keep in mind, your 0 work downtime is part of that calculus too.

    Probably an entirely different calculus for writing or in places you actually have things like safety nets, but it's served me well. I saw what my boss was charging for my labor back in 2006 as a basically break/fix IT specialist and it made my stomach churn because he fought me over $15/hr for that job (he charged $300 and we only had 5 employees... three were his family)

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    I mean the equation changes significantly if you're planning on making it your fulltime job and intend to make a living from it, but occasional freelancing as a side hustle kind of needs to be cheaper than market rate, because you're competing with the safety of a major business.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Yeah also true, plus if it's not the primary income for your household there's wiggle room there too.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited March 18
    See, this is how I know I'm am old. I would grab the water purification filters before the ethanol during civilisation's collapse

    I would hit up the pharmacy, grab a bottle of sleeping pills and pick out a nice hillside.
    I'm a domesticated human; I've been acutely aware since the bad old days of the Cold War that if civilization ever truly ends, I would (and would prefer to) go with it.

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  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    See, this is how I know I'm am old. I would grab the water purification filters before the ethanol during civilisation's collapse

    I would hit up the pharmacy, grab a bottle of sleeping pills and pick out a nice hillside.
    I'm a domesticated human; I've been acutely aware since the bad old days of the Cold War that if civilization ever truly ends, I would (and would prefer to) go with it.

    If you remember a few years ago, the big question going around was 'what's your plan for the zombie apocalypse?'
    My plan was to join the winning side asap.

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    edited March 18
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Mid-March and I'm still typing 2020 into filenames of things I'm submitting.

    My dumbass self is still typing 20201 far too often.

    LaOs on
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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    LaOs wrote: »
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Mid-March and I'm still typing 2020 into filenames of things I'm submitting.

    My dumbass is still typing 20201.

    I don't see the problem here. That's twenty twenty one.

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    LaOs wrote: »
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Mid-March and I'm still typing 2020 into filenames of things I'm submitting.

    My dumbass is still typing 20201.

    I don't see the problem here. That's twenty twenty one.

    I can hear myself doing it, because that's exactly what is going through my head. And then I realise what I typed and gah damnit! lol

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    covid was our first glimpse of what a zombie apocolypse would be like

    I gotta give it to zombie movies, they nailed the "people will hide that shit and turn and infect you asap also all of society's safeguards will fail to do literally anything" which I thought was completely unrealistic

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    The whole "Americans are unwilling to quarantine for 3 weeks to completely stop the spread of the disease because they believed some talking heads about STONKS" was a pretty big wake up call into further disillusionment, for me, eprsonally.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    The next zombie movie/show to come out better contain a scene with a dude being eaten alive by zombies while claiming zombies to be fake news.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    I still need to figure out how to work my spinning wheel/spindle in order to really complete my apocalypse skill tree. but I do at least have those things.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    The next zombie movie/show to come out better contain a scene with a dude being eaten alive by zombies while claiming zombies to be fake news.

    Name him, oh let's say, Burman Fain?

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    The whole "Americans are unwilling to quarantine for 3 weeks to completely stop the spread of the disease because they believed some talking heads about STONKS" was a pretty big wake up call into further disillusionment, for me, eprsonally.

    "Getting sick sucks, but I sure do need my hamberders"

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  • KadithKadith Registered User regular
    more like americans will be forced to keep working during a zombie apocalypse so stonks can go up.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    more like americans will be forced to keep working during a zombie apocalypse so stonks can go up.

    I think one of my biggest takeaways from the pandemic was to look at behavior in zombie movies that I had previously thought ridiculous and realized it was completely believable.

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul I am silent and my silence is complicity. Registered User regular
    Zombies are slow, stupid and can't catch healthy adults and children. The only people who are getting eaten are the elderly and those with preexisting conditions.

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