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Karoz
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War, war always changes.
Pick your setting:
Historical
The Warhammer Trilogy.
Note: Buying each game comes with its own specific base races and maps in future games so best to collect them all for the full experience
Historical
https://youtu.be/HYBWG0ko0lM
https://youtu.be/hTXHv3y1I6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrmsh54J-nA&ab_channel=TotalWar
https://youtu.be/11xfNLrJDHg
https://youtu.be/8eMMVZBBT_s
https://youtu.be/q7RHiyWHuV0
https://youtu.be/wDr2PQh_Lzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYgozQ1zpk
https://youtu.be/UZA-gqJL9Is
https://youtu.be/Ll9Ebnq1OXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4D42vMUSIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quBNs3vYzos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZR3DGFwehwThe Warhammer Trilogy.
Note: Buying each game comes with its own specific base races and maps in future games so best to collect them all for the full experience
https://youtu.be/qjzLuddjIUI
https://youtu.be/fzgpPM_UA9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAr7yUlM0Po&t=5s
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Thinking about abandoning this campaign for Lohkir after reading good things about his campaign. His black ark is bugged to give supply lines but you get so much loot from sacking it's probably not a big deal.
Why he even gave Dong Zhuo the Seven Star Sword in the middls of the night as proof of his trustworthiness.
Had a nice bunch of interesting stories.
I sent one guy off to map China and get some trade going and he accidentally antagonised nearly the entire continent into declaring war on me (I didnt get military access and didnt notice the penalties for trespassing stacking up)
I managed to swipe Diaochan and get her to be the wife of my heir, then have her watch Lu Bu get clowned repeatedly in duels for laughs. She has a skill that does -100% melee evasion and armour, so i'd cast that and watch as he would get dropped nearly instantly.
I had several huge battles (like 6 full stacks going at each other) where victory was pulled by the skin of my teeth and only about 300 of my guys would survive.
There were actually 4 Kingdoms during my game. Myself (Kingdom of Yan), Dong Zhou, and Wu at first, I took out Dong Zhou and Cao Cao took the opportunity to declare himself Emperor of Wei as by then he was in control of most of South East China
I discovered I hate the Nanman with a passion and that the auto-resolve is super heavily weighted in their favour.
Anything else that should be added to the OP?
Some things I've discovered
You can sack a city over and over again to build up mammoths and dragons.
Raiding the Chaos wastes will sometimes give you manticores
Raiding forests gives you wolves
haven't played since the Naman expansion
Fucking awesome. Although artillery is still a bit OP it's no longer archer-showdown extravaganza. Post-revamp all factions are pretty interesting too, although Cao Cao is even more OP. A world betrayed and Fates Divided have really spiced up the Han game.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
So you will see those cav perform very well plowing down archers but not so well against infantry
Also, factions like Yuan Shao, Cao Cao, Sun Ce and Liu Chong have gotten decent melee cav they didn't have when 3k launched. Sabre militia cav is mediocre at best and the regular sabre cav tends to be unlocked pretty late.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
https://store.steampowered.com/app/885970/Total_War_ROME_REMASTERED/
Wonder if they will do Medieval 2 then. Kinda odd they went with Rome, as there already is a recent Rome game.
50% off if you own the original makes it a lot more palatable.
Medieval 2? Sure, I would love that. Rome? Was groundbreaking for its time, but I’m not sure what it really has to offer from a gameplay standpoint in 2020.
I’d be much more excited about a grand campaign rework in Rome 2 with lessons learned from later games and content (Like more complete rosters for non-roman and non-diodachi factions, a better map like the later Rome 2 campaigns, horde mechanics imported from Attilla for the steppe tribes and germanic barbarians, etc).
1. Implement horde mechanics for germanic and steppe factions (the biggest thing, but those factions just don’t feel right without it).
2. Migrate over to the revised map used in the Augustus and Empire divided campaigns (a much better map for a number of reasons)
3. Go over every playable faction roster with a fine toothed comb with an eye towards bringing them all up to the standards of the Desert Kingdoms and Empire Divided DLC (some are already there, some don’t need much work to get there, some need a lot)
Aside from item 1, that is not really all that much to do, Empire Divided and Rise of the Republic were probably more work on the whole.
The rome 2 engine is probably that bad. Go play the original WH1 in WH1 and compare that to WH2.5 or Three Kingdoms It’s like night and day. And rome 2 was (pretty sure) worse than WH1.
Rome 1 is almost unplayable on a modern system. Even just porting the assets into a new engine would do a huge amount to its playability. Though the main problem it’s likely to have is that it’s a historical game and thus will never be as interesting as free herpes harpies
They have a tendency to get surrounded when they dive into combat. Your MD stat is effectively 0 if you are being attacked from behind.
But yeah, harpies are still not great. Rakarths MVPs are Giant Wolves. Get all the advantages of light cavalry, with none of the drawbacks (So you have a spear? That's cute).
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
What that means is if 4 units of greatswords engage a unit of swordsmen the DPS is still about one line worth of greatswords unless you flank. But if four units of harpies engage 1 unit of swordsmen your DPS if 4 units of harpies. So you eat their ranged units first and then you eat the rest of them.
Also I do most of my gaming on consoles, I really only use my pc for total war games (I imagine a lot of people are like me), and one area I would love to see a remaster would be a console launch.
It’s always weird that people balk at the idea of a console total war. They aren’t twitch games (outside of multiplayer), and many many far more complex pc UI strategy or like city builder games with much more of a reliance on keyboard and mouse buttons have come to consoles and been perfectly fine, and often these ports are from much smaller studios with far more niche appeal
Especially with the next gen consoles power I continue to find it super strange that creative assembly doesn’t seem to have any interest in console ports. I know it wouldn’t be a simple project but I feel like they would sell gangbusters
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
I'll probably still get it if it includes the soundtrack though. I remember that being fantastic.
So do I text them a picture of the cd case or
IMO they should just give the Europa Barbarorum guys a bit of cash and a new engine. I think they'd do incredible things.
Saw claims on reddit that some old Rome keys work on steam so you could just try typing the cd key in if you have it. It should be on the back of the manual.
Apparently this works for Medieval 2 also.
I’ll always see Rome 1 as their ‘breakout’ game. First one in full 3D and they absolutely nailed it.
Yeah. Medieval 2 probably would have been more of a slam dunk though.
But if this does well enough they'll maybe revisit that one.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Medieval 3 is the next historical title. But I wouldn't be upset with an Empire 2, though.
Yeah, most of the hate for Rome 2 was for its condition at release. Which by now most of those flaws have been fixed... And the ones that haven’t were mostly worse in Rome 1 anyway (like if you think some of the non-rome unit rosters in Rome 2 are sucky and unfinished, in Rome 1 a lot of them were like 3 or 4 units.)
I would overpay for an Empire 2. Especially if they make it more iterative, expanding mechanics and locations with further expansions. They've shown that they can really develop things over time.
Yep, Empire was their first attempt at gunpowder units and it shows, but by Fall of the Samurai they'd ironed most of the issues out. I'm confident that they could remake Empire and have it not suck.