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1 Billions Lions vs 1 of Every Pokemon

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    Do wild Pokémon have limited PP?

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
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    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    the lions would not bother with this bullshit and leave

    aka losing

    is it losing to not engage with a bunch of jerks?

    us or the pokemon?

    also, as if more proof was needed

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    the only proof there is that nerd gamers think animals that don't exist would beat a bunch of lions.

    that's why the lions leave, there is no one else there

    piffle. the question was who would win, not 'what is real'

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
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    Xaquin wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    the lions would not bother with this bullshit and leave

    aka losing

    is it losing to not engage with a bunch of jerks?

    us or the pokemon?

    also, as if more proof was needed

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    the only proof there is that nerd gamers think animals that don't exist would beat a bunch of lions.

    that's why the lions leave, there is no one else there

    piffle. the question was who would win, not 'what is real'

    the lions because the Pokémon don't show up

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Which side is backed by a mute child that rarely blinks?

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    wild Pokémon use PP yes

    Are we doing 1v1 with a queue or battle royale

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    Or again are we just letting god Pokémon use their actual abilities and not their competitive moveset

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    1 Billion Lions
    wild Pokémon use PP yes

    i also use pp in the wild

    am i then a pokerman

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    Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
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    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
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    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

    you'll never know until you try

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
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    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

    lions can't operate pokeballs

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
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    Solar wrote: »
    I feel like lions also win by being real

    Boo this person!

    Sorry for being right

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
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    Xaquin wrote: »
    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

    lions can't operate pokeballs

    they can operate your balls tho!

    /slamdunk

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
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    lol imagine thinking pokemon aren't real

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
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    my man david attenborough is constantly narrating videos where lions are, frankly, starving to death and hanging onto life and this is just how every day in the serengeti is

    meanwhile the pokemon are strong, and they are thriving and would win

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    Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
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    Xaquin wrote: »
    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

    lions can't operate pokeballs

    Irrelevant. If the most powerful Pokémon can't put up a fight against a dinky plastic shell a kid picked up in their corner shop no way it could face up against even a single lion.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
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    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I feel like lions also win by being real

    Boo this person!

    Sorry for being right

    In that case, something that doesn't exist can't possibly be defeated.
    A pokemon is not a creature, it's an idea, a concept. And no number of lions could defeat an idea.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
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    Everyone on the Pokemon side is just handwaving away that they'd run out of PP. In order to be fair these have to be wild pokemon so there's no trainer to carry them to a center. A pokemon lying exhausted on the ground being stood on by a lion is still defeated.

    if they have to use pp then you also have to grant that there are Pokemon Centers so they can just go top off as needed

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
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    Kyrogre used Surf!

    1 billion sets of xp later...

    Kyrogre wins!

    If we're using strict battle mechanics Surf's targetting is "every opponent", so it just one shots all the lions at once.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
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    a billion is so many lions. the pokemon would run out of pp and struggle themselves to death if nothing else.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    If wild Pokémon use PP then they must have a way of regenerating that PP without using a center

    Eating berries maybe?

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
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    furthermore the lions probably have a better speed stat than most pokemon so they'd get first move

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
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    Veldrin wrote: »
    lol imagine thinking pokemon aren't real

    you show me your pokemon i'll show you mine

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    see317 wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I feel like lions also win by being real

    Boo this person!

    Sorry for being right

    In that case, something that doesn't exist can't possibly be defeated.
    A pokemon is not a creature, it's an idea, a concept. And no number of lions could defeat an idea.

    Alright there, V for Vendetta

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    Single use unless we factor in the trainer with ethers

    But yeah if it’s all lions at once, Kyogre surf is a one-shot

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    Quantum TigerQuantum Tiger Registered User regular
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    -Tal wrote: »
    furthermore the lions probably have a better speed stat than most pokemon so they'd get first move

    Lions probably have like a million HP too

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
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    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

    lions can't operate pokeballs

    they can operate your balls tho!

    /slamdunk

    only if I let them which I won't!

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    ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I feel like lions also win by being real

    dont post

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    There’s a Pokémon who can stop time.
    -Tal wrote: »
    furthermore the lions probably have a better speed stat than most pokemon so they'd get first move

    Lions probably have like a million HP too

    Entei are bigger than lions and they have like 200hp

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
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    Xaquin wrote: »
    A 10 year old can catch every Pokémon god

    I don't think I could take on even one lion

    1 billion lions. No question.

    lions can't operate pokeballs

    Irrelevant. If the most powerful Pokémon can't put up a fight against a dinky plastic shell a kid picked up in their corner shop no way it could face up against even a single lion.

    the routinely defeat much stronger things than dinky plastic shells

    I don't know all the physics of pokeballs, but I know that if push came to shove there would be a billion less lions in our hypothetical world

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
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    *me, extremely wise and learned* actually no one would win between goku and superman because they’re both fictional 😏

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
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    Solar wrote: »
    I feel like lions also win by being real

    If you want to get real, there are only 20,000 lions in the wild.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    crwth wrote: »
    *me, extremely wise and learned* actually no one would win between goku and superman because they’re both fictional 😏

    And yet
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    ChallChall Registered User regular
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    Also numbers aren't real, so there can't be "1 billion" of anything. Don't believe the lies of so-called "mathematicians"

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
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    crwth wrote: »
    *me, extremely wise and learned* actually no one would win between goku and superman because they’re both fictional 😏

    And yet
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    hm?

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    crwth wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    *me, extremely wise and learned* actually no one would win between goku and superman because they’re both fictional 😏

    And yet
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    hm?

    I think they’re coming on to you.

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Which side is the protagonist?

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
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    crwth wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    *me, extremely wise and learned* actually no one would win between goku and superman because they’re both fictional 😏

    And yet
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    hm?

    Are Pokémon more or less fictional than Goku or Superman

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    crwth isn't real so they would/wouldn't win against a billion lions

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Goku is just a knock-off Sun Wukong, who is real, but Kansas doesn’t actually exist so I’d say Superman is more fictional.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    A billion is a very big number.

    I need some Pokemon information is what I need. How many Pokemon there are, for one.

    What moves they can learn, for another.

    Then we need to determine what Type a lion is and how much HP they have, along with other stats.

    Then we figure out which moves each Pokemon can do, and figure out, for each different Pokemon, which moves they can take to eliminate the maximum number of lions. Because it isn't just about raw damage but how many times they can perform that move.

    How many lions could, in a best-case scenario, be eliminated before all the Pokemon are reduced to having to Struggle?

    There is also a consideration of defense, that these lions are going to be attacking while the Pokemon are also attacking, and so we can't assume every Pokemon can get every attack off.

    But if we cannot find that the number of lions can even be reduced to a manageable number before the Pokemon are forced to injure themselves Struggling against their fors, then the lions will win through simple attrition.

    Steelix is a one ton 30 foot snake made of steel. Simple attrition doesn't enter in to it when some basic pokemon can defeat multiple lions at once by moving forward at a normal pace. Think of it like this. Could an elephant trample a lion? Sure! But there are a billion lions. But the elephant is invincible so it doesn't matter.

    Arguing one lion cannot kill an elephant, therefore a billion lions cannot kill an elephant is like saying that if I drop a piece of paper on you it will not harm you, therefore if I drop the Library of Congress on you it will not harm you.

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