I can still understand an HOA in a condo situation where you're sharing walls and there's common areas, but in a neighborhood of detached homes I still find it baffling.
To keep property values up, it's important for our neighborhood to maintain a certain tone. A specific hue. A very regimented range of pigmentation.
Yeah my HOA only allows something like 56 different pigmentations for our house exteriors and it-
My neighbors had an unbelievably loud party across the street on Saturday until 2 in the morning, like giant outdoor tent/live amplified music loud, and on the one hand they were obviously celebrating the fuck out of something and I don't want to harsh that buzz but on the other hand it's a GD pandemic and also what the fuck shut your loud ass speakers off by like 1 please.
We didn't call the cops or anything, nobody else in the neighborhood did either, but I need there to be an agency that just goes and tells people to turn their loud-ass party down so my wife and I can sleep with the windows open.
My neighbors had an unbelievably loud party across the street on Saturday until 2 in the morning, like giant outdoor tent/live amplified music loud, and on the one hand they were obviously celebrating the fuck out of something and I don't want to harsh that buzz but on the other hand it's a GD pandemic and also what the fuck shut your loud ass speakers off by like 1 please.
We didn't call the cops or anything, nobody else in the neighborhood did either, but I need there to be an agency that just goes and tells people to turn their loud-ass party down so my wife and I can sleep with the windows open.
it's called shouting "it's 1am *insert insult of choice*" out your window in their general direction.
I mean a. they'd never have heard me and b. it was a rollicking party with primarily Latin American Spanish speaking folks in it. That detail isn't germane to the story in its original form but it is why I, the white guy on the corner, don't want to become known as the neighborhood crank who shouts at people about their parties.
Anything past like....midnight becomes free game on being the neighborhood crank.
I mean, the party goers are probably going to be poopy about it. But they are also being dicks and can eat shit.
They'll come tell them to keep it down, they won't break up the party unless they're repeat offenders or some really pissy neighbor calls repeatedly.
Most towns have noise laws past 10pm in most areas (sometimes it gets extended in the summer), but almost all of them are hard cut off at midnight unless you live super rural and your closest neighbor is half a mile away.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Yeah, I mean I'd rather go chat first before calling cops. But I think a fuck ton of noise past midnight shouldn't really be defensible and hopefully shouldn't need cops.
Under different circumstances I might have gone to say something but it was clearly an Event and there's no way they'd break it up just because I asked nicely. They were breaking the heck out of the local noise ordinance, we did check, but again I just feel squicky about calling the cops on people. Like, there was real tension in my neighborhood when things with ICE got bad there, my kids' elementary school sent out a "what to do if ICE raids your house" PSA to parents, I don't want to be the guy calling in Johnny Law so I can sleep better.
I will bitch about it on the Internet, that's for sure, but it'd need to be pretty extreme for me to do anything else.
I want to get a new fan setup for my top-of-wall garage vent, since without a fan to blow air out the air doesn't actually leave the vent, and I'd prefer my garage not be literal 150 degrees all summer. Is there such a thing as a pipe fan for less than $80 though what the fuck is this shit? I don't need a 37 horsepower fan I just want something to shunt air out efficiently and, if possibly, with the least noise I can get.
I can still understand an HOA in a condo situation where you're sharing walls and there's common areas, but in a neighborhood of detached homes I still find it baffling.
Different HOA's have differing levels of power. My mom's neighborhood for example had an HOA that all they did was keep up the small neighborhood park. They did talk at one point about installing speed bumps on one street as folks were using it to cut a busy intersection.
That's sort of my preferred HOA, $10 a month or something and it's really just a way to keep communication between home owners around what's going on in the neighborhood.
I wouldn't trust the cops not to fuck that up, though.
I realize we all post on penny-arcade and we see a lot of the dumb shit cops do echoed in these threads, but 99% of interactions with cops are not bad. This isn't a hill I'm going to die on, or source like I'm in D&D, either though.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I can still understand an HOA in a condo situation where you're sharing walls and there's common areas, but in a neighborhood of detached homes I still find it baffling.
You can have common areas in a neighborhood as well - my neighborhood has a park and walking paths. In addition, neighborhoods can have utilities like common wells and septic drainage fields.
When I bought my house the HOA was that type of small HOA that just manages the shared spaces and whatnot, but then it got switched over to a new HOA like 6 months later that gets on people's asses for shit in the most unfriendly and counter-productive way I've ever seen (including the various apartment complexes I've lived in). Have a dandelion in your front yard when the inspection person randomly drives around the neighborhood looking for nitpicky shit to complain about? You get a fucking writeup telling you to fix it in 10 days or face a fine. Fuuuck you buddy, goddamn, that sort of Karen bullshit really pisses me off and I gave them an ear-full (or I guess an eye-full, since it was over email) about my dissatisfaction with how they handled that whole thing.
I wouldn't trust the cops not to fuck that up, though.
I realize we all post on penny-arcade and we see a lot of the dumb shit cops do echoed in these threads, but 99% of interactions with cops are not bad. This isn't a hill I'm going to die on, or source like I'm in D&D, either though.
let's assume that is correct
that 1% of the time somebody ends up dead or their life ruined
I wouldn't trust the cops not to fuck that up, though.
I realize we all post on penny-arcade and we see a lot of the dumb shit cops do echoed in these threads, but 99% of interactions with cops are not bad. This isn't a hill I'm going to die on, or source like I'm in D&D, either though.
I mean look dude, I'm not trying to get into a whole thing here, but if you're a recent immigrant and English isn't your first language and you've got your whole family here with you, the chances of something going sideways with the police and the implications that can have don't have to involve death to be really scary. I would venture to say, without immediately resorting to data, that your chances of having a good interaction with the police are affected by the color of your skin and the language you speak and the quality of your personal identification.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
edited April 2021
Anyone throwing that big of a party should have delivered peace offerings prior to the gathering.
Food or a gift card with a number to text prior to getting the police involved.
An Uber Eats digital gift code printed with a phone number is low contact.
I once called the cops on a construction company that was laying slab on a lot across the street at 3:30am, mainly because the "hey I'm backing up" of their cement truck was like 120 decibels, easy.
I'm pretty sure the cops showed up, because around 4:00 the noise stopped and then they started up again at 8:00. Like, I'm sympathetic to those workers, it was the middle of July in Tucson, and it was like a 109 degree day, but I don't give a fuck about that house's slab being poured now vs in November, and there should have been people at some step in the process who said to someone important, "Hey, this is going to make a lot of noise within 50 feet of 8 houses, maybe we shouldn't do this at 3:30 in the morning on a Tuesday?"
I once called the cops on a construction company that was laying slab on a lot across the street at 3:30am, mainly because the "hey I'm backing up" of their cement truck was like 120 decibels, easy.
I'm pretty sure the cops showed up, because around 4:00 the noise stopped and then they started up again at 8:00. Like, I'm sympathetic to those workers, it was the middle of July in Tucson, and it was like a 109 degree day, but I don't give a fuck about that house's slab being poured now vs in November, and there should have been people at some step in the process who said to someone important, "Hey, this is going to make a lot of noise within 50 feet of 8 houses, maybe we shouldn't do this at 3:30 in the morning on a Tuesday?"
This kind of shit does go a lot more smoothly if you do talk to people before you do it though.
You can build in some bribes into your budget too.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
My neighbors had an unbelievably loud party across the street on Saturday until 2 in the morning, like giant outdoor tent/live amplified music loud, and on the one hand they were obviously celebrating the fuck out of something and I don't want to harsh that buzz but on the other hand it's a GD pandemic and also what the fuck shut your loud ass speakers off by like 1 please.
We didn't call the cops or anything, nobody else in the neighborhood did either, but I need there to be an agency that just goes and tells people to turn their loud-ass party down so my wife and I can sleep with the windows open.
If it's just a one time thing, bite the bullet and move on. Even if it was more than one time but infrequent enough, you can get cheap ear plugs anywhere. I also like sleeping with a fan which can help (vornado ones are great).
If it becomes weekly, then go talk with them first. Only if they give you the middle finger or break what they tell you would I call the cops.
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FishmanPut your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain.Registered Userregular
edited April 2021
Huh. Here, noise control is a council (civic) thing, and noise control officers are not connected to the police at all. They're more like parking wardens, but for suburbs with teenagers. You call a council number, a council car comes out, checks if the noise level breaches local ordinances/time restrictions, goes to the party and informs them whether they were in breach or not, so they know at least one of their neighbours has been bothered regardless of whether or not they were in violation. It's a nice, polite solution for what is generally not a thing worth bothering cops with.
From memory you needed to be in breach multiple times before stuff (stereos, speakers, cars) started getting confiscated. The warning notice (my friends and I recieved a few in our time) explicitly listed locomotives as an item that could be confiscated. I'm not going to tell you how much effort we expended in attempting to get someone to come and try and take a train away, but rest assured, the fact we never got someone to attempt to impound a deisel-electric from my mates backyard was not for lack of trying on our part.
Eh, HOAs will do jack shit for you AND rat you out as they're typically run by power hungry cowards.
I've never had a bad experience asking people to turn it down, even the meth dealers partying at 4 AM on a Tuesday.
"I don't care what you're doing, I just want to sleep" is pretty universally understood
Man stainless steel and white everything looks awful.
It's not my choice in decor, but as you point out it does look like a spaceship which is pretty rad.
Yeah. I'd honestly kind of love it if it was just a three-bedroom house that someone renovated to look like that, but the fact that it's a sprawling mansion just poisons everything about it.
Not that I'd ever live anywhere with that much stainless steel, mind you. You'd find me standing with a polishing cloth in the dead center of the house, eyelid twitching, trying to catch a fingerprint spontaneously forming.
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
Finally got someone out to trim away the damaged limbs from my 110-year-old pecan tree following the October ice storm.
January 2019:
April 2020:
October 2020:
April 2021
What a useless, senseless toxic waste dump of a year, in just every direction imaginable. I hope that somewhere the year 2020 is a person, and that person is choking on two bottlecaps.
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Oh, that poor old soul.
Well, the larger limbs are intact, so it can probably recover. May not fruit for awhile though.
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Yeah, the tree guy said it's in overall wonderful health, and that it would take a hell of a lot to prevent it from being back to normal in five to ten years.
Yeah, the tree guy said it's in overall wonderful health, and that it would take a hell of a lot to prevent it from being back to normal in five to ten years.
Ah I'm sorry you had to watch that get cut up, but seeing those pictures of your tree being taken care of instead of cut down made me feel a bit better. We had the oldest Madrone in the state half a block away and it got cut down last year, I still miss seeing it. It had been dead for a while and was a hazard and the wood went to woodworking schools and so on, but nearby neighbors subsequently cut down a gorgeous birch I'd often admired walking by that looked to be in just the prime of it's life. I haven't bumped into them to ask but I'm guessing it was a view thing (sigh). Across the street from them another house cut down a small but also healthy looking pine, and replaced it with a bunch of geraniums. That street looks noticeably barren compared to before, and though there are still a lot of trees around when someone cut a pair of big Douglas Fir down it all made me reflect on how my neighborhood may look in 10-20 years. Poor birds.
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Yeah my HOA only allows something like 56 different pigmentations for our house exteriors and it-
-Oh. Right.
We didn't call the cops or anything, nobody else in the neighborhood did either, but I need there to be an agency that just goes and tells people to turn their loud-ass party down so my wife and I can sleep with the windows open.
it's called shouting "it's 1am *insert insult of choice*" out your window in their general direction.
I mean, the party goers are probably going to be poopy about it. But they are also being dicks and can eat shit.
They'll come tell them to keep it down, they won't break up the party unless they're repeat offenders or some really pissy neighbor calls repeatedly.
Most towns have noise laws past 10pm in most areas (sometimes it gets extended in the summer), but almost all of them are hard cut off at midnight unless you live super rural and your closest neighbor is half a mile away.
There's a non-zero chance the cops kill somebody on that call.
I will bitch about it on the Internet, that's for sure, but it'd need to be pretty extreme for me to do anything else.
Different HOA's have differing levels of power. My mom's neighborhood for example had an HOA that all they did was keep up the small neighborhood park. They did talk at one point about installing speed bumps on one street as folks were using it to cut a busy intersection.
That's sort of my preferred HOA, $10 a month or something and it's really just a way to keep communication between home owners around what's going on in the neighborhood.
I realize we all post on penny-arcade and we see a lot of the dumb shit cops do echoed in these threads, but 99% of interactions with cops are not bad. This isn't a hill I'm going to die on, or source like I'm in D&D, either though.
You can have common areas in a neighborhood as well - my neighborhood has a park and walking paths. In addition, neighborhoods can have utilities like common wells and septic drainage fields.
let's assume that is correct
that 1% of the time somebody ends up dead or their life ruined
I mean look dude, I'm not trying to get into a whole thing here, but if you're a recent immigrant and English isn't your first language and you've got your whole family here with you, the chances of something going sideways with the police and the implications that can have don't have to involve death to be really scary. I would venture to say, without immediately resorting to data, that your chances of having a good interaction with the police are affected by the color of your skin and the language you speak and the quality of your personal identification.
Food or a gift card with a number to text prior to getting the police involved.
An Uber Eats digital gift code printed with a phone number is low contact.
I'm pretty sure the cops showed up, because around 4:00 the noise stopped and then they started up again at 8:00. Like, I'm sympathetic to those workers, it was the middle of July in Tucson, and it was like a 109 degree day, but I don't give a fuck about that house's slab being poured now vs in November, and there should have been people at some step in the process who said to someone important, "Hey, this is going to make a lot of noise within 50 feet of 8 houses, maybe we shouldn't do this at 3:30 in the morning on a Tuesday?"
This kind of shit does go a lot more smoothly if you do talk to people before you do it though.
You can build in some bribes into your budget too.
If it's just a one time thing, bite the bullet and move on. Even if it was more than one time but infrequent enough, you can get cheap ear plugs anywhere. I also like sleeping with a fan which can help (vornado ones are great).
If it becomes weekly, then go talk with them first. Only if they give you the middle finger or break what they tell you would I call the cops.
From memory you needed to be in breach multiple times before stuff (stereos, speakers, cars) started getting confiscated. The warning notice (my friends and I recieved a few in our time) explicitly listed locomotives as an item that could be confiscated. I'm not going to tell you how much effort we expended in attempting to get someone to come and try and take a train away, but rest assured, the fact we never got someone to attempt to impound a deisel-electric from my mates backyard was not for lack of trying on our part.
I've never had a bad experience asking people to turn it down, even the meth dealers partying at 4 AM on a Tuesday.
"I don't care what you're doing, I just want to sleep" is pretty universally understood
Man stainless steel and white everything looks awful.
It's not my choice in decor, but as you point out it does look like a spaceship which is pretty rad.
It has definite "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't open the garage door" vibes.
Yeah. I'd honestly kind of love it if it was just a three-bedroom house that someone renovated to look like that, but the fact that it's a sprawling mansion just poisons everything about it.
Not that I'd ever live anywhere with that much stainless steel, mind you. You'd find me standing with a polishing cloth in the dead center of the house, eyelid twitching, trying to catch a fingerprint spontaneously forming.
January 2019:
April 2020:
October 2020:
April 2021
What a useless, senseless toxic waste dump of a year, in just every direction imaginable. I hope that somewhere the year 2020 is a person, and that person is choking on two bottlecaps.
Well, the larger limbs are intact, so it can probably recover. May not fruit for awhile though.
I hate tiled floors in living and sleeping areas. Awful.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better
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But I kinda love that house's whole thing
I don't hate it! I like spaceship aesthetic!
Hmm... My choice of music for that would probably be something from Ghost in the Shell.
Ah I'm sorry you had to watch that get cut up, but seeing those pictures of your tree being taken care of instead of cut down made me feel a bit better. We had the oldest Madrone in the state half a block away and it got cut down last year, I still miss seeing it. It had been dead for a while and was a hazard and the wood went to woodworking schools and so on, but nearby neighbors subsequently cut down a gorgeous birch I'd often admired walking by that looked to be in just the prime of it's life. I haven't bumped into them to ask but I'm guessing it was a view thing (sigh). Across the street from them another house cut down a small but also healthy looking pine, and replaced it with a bunch of geraniums. That street looks noticeably barren compared to before, and though there are still a lot of trees around when someone cut a pair of big Douglas Fir down it all made me reflect on how my neighborhood may look in 10-20 years. Poor birds.
i could spend a lot and get a nice one, but why?
how does this look: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/fjaellbo-tv-unit-black-90339290/
Yeah I totally want the door they used for the gym room for some sort of nerd cave entrance.