I've been playing a bunch of Horizon:FW, and one of the thing that has surprised me is how bootlicky the whole thing is. Mainly, the first thing that you have to do is break a strike. And then, you are in charge of killing rebels in an internal power struggle. Basically, you are mainly asked to enforce existing power structures over and over, and it just comes across as a little weird.
One of the big things that is frequently overlooked when it comes to competition in a market is that it does not mean trying to do the exact same things and have the same products.
An oversimplification but an easy thing to look at is food. A pizza place and a Taco place across the street are absolutely competing for customers. But you don't expect the pizza place to start making tacos in order to keep up. They just need to make sure they keep making good and desirable pizza. And the competition still matters because if the quality slips even a person who prefers good pizza vs good tacos may start looking at getting good tacos over mediocre pizza.
And the perfect example of this absolutely applying to this industry is, as someone else brought up earlier, Nintendo.
One of the main reasons they are still so successful is that they are not trying to chase everything the others do and continue to focus on what they already do well.
In this analogy what game company is the combination pizza hut and taco bell?
I've been playing a bunch of Horizon:FW, and one of the thing that has surprised me is how bootlicky the whole thing is. Mainly, the first thing that you have to do is break a strike. And then, you are in charge of killing rebels in an internal power struggle. Basically, you are mainly asked to enforce existing power structures over and over, and it just comes across as a little weird.
I feel like there is a fair difference between 'breaking a strike' an 'ending a strike by removing the person in management who is endangering lives to make more profit'.
Even the rebel faction is an external issue from the moment you meet them.
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That starting story was definitely written to say that it's union reps that are the real bad guys and it's the middle managers who are really protecting the workers.
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I would buy so many classic games games on my Switch if Nintendo didn't insist that the only way for me to play them is to pay a monthly subscription.
I can't fathom a reason for that other than "Fuck you consumer."
It's probably largely because they tried that already on multiple prior consoles, and decided it wasn't working for whatever reason
Personally, I think the subscription model for it is a way better way to handle it, but that's also because the prices they were charging for virtual console stuff felt unreasonable
yeah but the subscription games on the Switch are all absolute trash nobody in a million years would ask for them to offer. I have to imagine they'd get way more money from it if they actually put a library on there like the virtual consoles
The strike breaking plot in Forbidden West is...not as bad as I initially thought it was (and there are legitimate stories to tell about dealing with bad union leadership) but it gets pretty muddled by the end of it.
Just wait until you find the group that models their entire tribe's worldview on how awesome the US military is, because mixing military propaganda and uh...cultural appropriation of Native Americans isn't an extremely fraught choice
I would buy so many classic games games on my Switch if Nintendo didn't insist that the only way for me to play them is to pay a monthly subscription.
I can't fathom a reason for that other than "Fuck you consumer."
It's probably largely because they tried that already on multiple prior consoles, and decided it wasn't working for whatever reason
Personally, I think the subscription model for it is a way better way to handle it, but that's also because the prices they were charging for virtual console stuff felt unreasonable
On VC on other consoles, Nintendo pretended that Super Metroid and something like Bombuzal are worth the same amount of money, or that anyone would spend money on Urban Champion without being tricked, it's idiotic. You can't sell retro games in a price inelastic way. People WILL buy them, when they're bundled together or sold in intriguing ways or whatever. But Nintendo refusing to do one of its main jobs is to be expected when their customers often act in a common sense deficient way.
I've been playing a bunch of Horizon:FW, and one of the thing that has surprised me is how bootlicky the whole thing is. Mainly, the first thing that you have to do is break a strike. And then, you are in charge of killing rebels in an internal power struggle. Basically, you are mainly asked to enforce existing power structures over and over, and it just comes across as a little weird.
I feel like there is a fair difference between 'breaking a strike' an 'ending a strike by removing the person in management who is endangering lives to make more profit'.
Even the rebel faction is an external issue from the moment you meet them.
Im not saying they dont give Aloy pretty decentish reasons to do the strike breaking, but they did write the story that way. But also, Aloy basically just shows up and is like "oh, there's a strike going on!? Well fuck that shit!" Very uncritically.
I do think they do an ok job of giving Aloy a vibe of "whatever i need to do keep this mission moving", and thats why she tends to be so expedient with stuff like that. But that vibe falls apart quickly through the openworldy help everyone with any problem attitude she has the rest of the time.
The strike breaking plot in Forbidden West is...not as bad as I initially thought it was (and there are legitimate stories to tell about dealing with bad union leadership) but it gets pretty muddled by the end of it.
Just wait until you find the group that models their entire tribe's worldview on how awesome the US military is, because mixing military propaganda and uh...cultural appropriation of Native Americans isn't an extremely fraught choice
Are you talking about the Ten? Yeah, that seems pretty gross too.
The Ten weren’t the US government military, it was like a civil rebellion army, and the irony of it being cheesy propaganda from that time, but then used by people a thousand years later as an excuse to do both good and bad things in its name, is kind of the point. The disconnect and misunderstanding is the point. It’s about how people who are inherently noble or good will use a story to justify good and noble things, while people who are inherently selfish and bad will use that same story to justify selfish and bad things
The player knowing this, and aloy knowing this, is the point
Also the strike thing is a reach. There’s loads of lore about the very evil governments of the past killing strikers or exploiting workers, it’s hardly some sort of anti strike/workers rights piece of story telling. It’s just about a small town jerk exploiting his own power. To say that because they made him a “strike organiser” (it doesn’t really spend any time suggesting he was at all sincere or that this was a genuine strike action, or any workers actually believed him) means anything is a stretch.
Having your top tier plan be more expensive than Xbox's top tier sure is a choice.
Sony might have shipped more PS5's than Xbox has Series X, but this is still Sony playing catchup to Xbox's gamepass so that they don't lose ground with future marketshare. Not sure making your plan $3/month more is a great look.
Having your top tier plan be more expensive than Xbox's top tier sure is a choice.
Sony might have shipped more PS5's than Xbox has Series X, but this is still Sony playing catchup to Xbox's gamepass so that they don't lose ground with future marketshare. Not sure making your plan $3/month more is a great look.
But you still get to buy new games at $70, so clearly the value is... somewhere?
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i will subscribe to the new ps plus if it lets me play 3d dot game heroes on my ps5
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Having your top tier plan be more expensive than Xbox's top tier sure is a choice.
Sony might have shipped more PS5's than Xbox has Series X, but this is still Sony playing catchup to Xbox's gamepass so that they don't lose ground with future marketshare. Not sure making your plan $3/month more is a great look.
This is why they can't copy gamepass even more. They'd have to charge way more for the same service and everyone would complain because they don't quite understand why and it would just look bad.
They cannot get into that fight. They cannot win that fight.
I am not now, nor ever interested in streaming a game to my console
Taking it a step further I am not now or ever interested in a sub service for gaming. And I really hope the gamepass idea proves not sustainable long term and it becomes a secondary service instead of a primary service for new games!
I am not now, nor ever interested in streaming a game to my console
I tried PS Now on a free trial a couple years back, it was completely unplayable for me
Turns out I have less than zero tolerance for lag in a single player game
i've got pretty fast internet (takes like 15 minutes tops for a 60gb game) and even then when i tried playing batman arkham origins on ps now a couple years ago it was just laggy enough that i couldn't play it
i can see ps1/2 games maybe working better (i don't understand technology) but yeah, hopefully they make shit work better this time
I enjoy the ability to stream games from Game Pass to my Series X as a supplemental way to play them; I've used it to play 10 minutes of a bunch of different games, just to get the vibe and see if it's something I want to download. It'd probably be a pretty crummy primary way to play but as a way to essentially get a demo it's pretty nice!*
*major caveat that streaming actually works pretty well for me where I am with my Internet at the time of day I'm playing, if it didn't work I wouldn't use it and would probably agree that it's pretty worthless.
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I am not now, nor ever interested in streaming a game to my console
I tried PS Now on a free trial a couple years back, it was completely unplayable for me
Turns out I have less than zero tolerance for lag in a single player game
We got free stadia accounts and starter kits at work, and I played exactly 2 games for a total of 45 minutes before coming to the same conclusion and not touching it again for the rest of that free year. Totally unbearable, and Stadia was supposed to be one of the best ones.
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I dislike streaming games for the same reason I dislike always online gaming. I want to be able to play my single player games without needing perfect Internet because oh boy I have never had perfect Internet anywhere.
gaming text is so fucked. i don't understand how it's so universally bad. game devs all live a life where the only place they play the game is at a computer with a monitor a foot away in their face or something.
Maybe that's actually true. I know I haven't played a game on a couch in over a decade. Studio apartments don't have much space so my computer desk and monitor doubles as screen for consoles.
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modern gaming text is why i've been sticking mostly to 2d indie games, they've been way better about it in my experience
I'm just now realizing that you could stream games on psnow. I always just installed them. I'm not sure how I missed that. Not that I would've used it, streaming games is garbage.
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In this analogy what game company is the combination pizza hut and taco bell?
I can't fathom a reason for that other than "Fuck you consumer."
I feel like there is a fair difference between 'breaking a strike' an 'ending a strike by removing the person in management who is endangering lives to make more profit'.
Even the rebel faction is an external issue from the moment you meet them.
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It's probably largely because they tried that already on multiple prior consoles, and decided it wasn't working for whatever reason
Personally, I think the subscription model for it is a way better way to handle it, but that's also because the prices they were charging for virtual console stuff felt unreasonable
Just wait until you find the group that models their entire tribe's worldview on how awesome the US military is, because mixing military propaganda and uh...cultural appropriation of Native Americans isn't an extremely fraught choice
On VC on other consoles, Nintendo pretended that Super Metroid and something like Bombuzal are worth the same amount of money, or that anyone would spend money on Urban Champion without being tricked, it's idiotic. You can't sell retro games in a price inelastic way. People WILL buy them, when they're bundled together or sold in intriguing ways or whatever. But Nintendo refusing to do one of its main jobs is to be expected when their customers often act in a common sense deficient way.
Im not saying they dont give Aloy pretty decentish reasons to do the strike breaking, but they did write the story that way. But also, Aloy basically just shows up and is like "oh, there's a strike going on!? Well fuck that shit!" Very uncritically.
I do think they do an ok job of giving Aloy a vibe of "whatever i need to do keep this mission moving", and thats why she tends to be so expedient with stuff like that. But that vibe falls apart quickly through the openworldy help everyone with any problem attitude she has the rest of the time.
Are you talking about the Ten? Yeah, that seems pretty gross too.
I'd happily pay money to play Link to the Past on an official Nintendo emulator on my PC.
The New Playstation Plus is official
The player knowing this, and aloy knowing this, is the point
Also the strike thing is a reach. There’s loads of lore about the very evil governments of the past killing strikers or exploiting workers, it’s hardly some sort of anti strike/workers rights piece of story telling. It’s just about a small town jerk exploiting his own power. To say that because they made him a “strike organiser” (it doesn’t really spend any time suggesting he was at all sincere or that this was a genuine strike action, or any workers actually believed him) means anything is a stretch.
PS1 and PS2 games only being in the highest tier is annoying.
The middle tier seems unnecessary.
700 games is a lot of games.
Other than that, I'm good with it. It's not gamepass but it was never going to be.
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Sony might have shipped more PS5's than Xbox has Series X, but this is still Sony playing catchup to Xbox's gamepass so that they don't lose ground with future marketshare. Not sure making your plan $3/month more is a great look.
But you still get to buy new games at $70, so clearly the value is... somewhere?
This is why they can't copy gamepass even more. They'd have to charge way more for the same service and everyone would complain because they don't quite understand why and it would just look bad.
They cannot get into that fight. They cannot win that fight.
I would do this if they included Vita games so I could specifically play Persona 3 Portable
But
They don't seem to list it so I'll probably keep to the basic tier unless there are some real benefits at some point
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P3P is a PSP game, and they did mention those, so you might be in luck.
Oh damn, did I mix it up with P4G
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I'll keep an eye on this
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ATLUS gonna ATLUS. That dinosaur hates money.
Why else do you think that the only version of Persona 5 on the Switch is Strikers?
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Taking it a step further I am not now or ever interested in a sub service for gaming. And I really hope the gamepass idea proves not sustainable long term and it becomes a secondary service instead of a primary service for new games!
I tried PS Now on a free trial a couple years back, it was completely unplayable for me
Turns out I have less than zero tolerance for lag in a single player game
i've got pretty fast internet (takes like 15 minutes tops for a 60gb game) and even then when i tried playing batman arkham origins on ps now a couple years ago it was just laggy enough that i couldn't play it
i can see ps1/2 games maybe working better (i don't understand technology) but yeah, hopefully they make shit work better this time
*major caveat that streaming actually works pretty well for me where I am with my Internet at the time of day I'm playing, if it didn't work I wouldn't use it and would probably agree that it's pretty worthless.
We got free stadia accounts and starter kits at work, and I played exactly 2 games for a total of 45 minutes before coming to the same conclusion and not touching it again for the rest of that free year. Totally unbearable, and Stadia was supposed to be one of the best ones.
I can barely tell what my weapon stats are in Borderlands or Elden Ring, which definitely makes the games less fun.
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