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[Hiberno-Britannic Politics] - Tory MP Resigns To Spend More Time With His Bribe Money
Bogart
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Who's the greatest Prime Minister of all time? I don't know myself, but it surely must be one of these.
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[Hiberno-Britannic Politics] - Tory MP Resigns To Spend More Time With His Bribe Money 74 votes
Theresa May, Queen of our hearts
1%
1 vote
David "Dave" Cameron, a honest man in a dishonest world
4%
3 votes
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, man of the people
1%
1 vote
Peter St John, ex-member of Cloud 9, and gifted psychic superhuman
8%
6 votes
Jim Hacker, decisiveness in human form
32%
24 votes
Michael Callow, fucked a pig on TV that time
12%
9 votes
Harriet Jones, killed by Daleks
31%
23 votes
Francis Urquhart, 10 Downing's Street's very own Mr Clean.
8%
6 votes
Jo Patterson, Daleks again
1%
1 vote
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They didn't produce anything that went into a hospital. They were given one of the rapidly manufacturable ventilator designs and couldn't produce anything that got through the MHRA in a useful timescale
The ventilator gap was plugged by the parallel project to scale up manufacturing of established designs (which I'm told has also since destroyed those companies as the production rate went up by orders of magnitude and once they hit demand they started filling warehouses with stock that mean there's no more money to be made)
The rush to produce new designs was wise, but some of the partners were clearly chosen in the manner Grayling's ferries
I just think that would have been an easy shot to take. yesyes boris, you made the hard decision to give a friend a tax break for 0 ventilators.
I'll go with Gladstone, 41st Prime Minister
Also the abolition of slavery, I guess
It shows a wealthy backer getting preferential treatment which helps to make the sleaze and 'chumocracy' labels stick. It also directly drags johnson into it. While they can argue the ventilator angle, that comes after the headline of 'personal favours'. It also doesn't really wash, since there were questions at the time about the money being thrown at dyson for an untested product from a company with no expertise. As far as I know it never materialized.
You might say that, but I couldn't possibly comment.
PITT THE ELDER
I think it's still too easy to wave this off as "Well it was a time of national emergency" - I'll be surprised if this sticks.
God knows it's not like any other scandals attached to Johnson have.
PITT THE ELDER!!
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I can only assume he did it so when he's preying on women he can say "My name is Boris Johnson, or BJ for short", "BJ?", "that's a binding verbal contract."
It's genuinely part of his very carefully cultivated image. That loveable rogue Boris with his messy hair seems like a bit of a lark, wouldn't he be a wonderful Prime Minister.
I've actually started to detest seeing him referred to as "Boris" because it feels like it's playing right into that.
Ideally with the same tone that Jeremy uses in Peep Show
Pitt the toddler?
Pitt the embryo?
Pitt the glint in the milkman's eye?
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I have heard that his family and friends call him Alex in private. However I am not sure I believe that, as I don't think he really has any friends. Just people he hasn't stabbed in the back yet. And they are thin on the ground.
It's a murky one for sure, I'm not going to die on any hill defending them because fuck Dyson, but at the time the need was so great we were asking basically any company with any sort of engineering capacity to give it a shot. Car companies, areospace, defence... pretty much anyone that can do CAD and machining. The need for it went away somewhat when doctors found existing drugs that could reduce the severity of the symptoms enough to keep more people out of the ICU. That left a lot of companies like Dyson that had been making the attempt to bodge ventilators together redundant. At the time these texts happened though was before any of that, we were at peak crisis. I'm not going to argue with anyone not willing to give the Tories the benefit of the doubt since fuck knows they don't deserve it, but it is very easy to argue that there was motivation other than the usual grift in this specific case, and for that reason alone it's a bad attack vector for Labour to attempt.
I was very intimately involved in this when it was happening, obviously I can't give a full inside skinny but they weren't even the most appropriate vacuum cleaner company involved in trying to make ventilators.
It was indeed a crisis where the concept of tendering was thrown out the window but certain people were in that room because of being good mates with politicians and who were owed a favour rather than having scalable appropriate manufacturing capacity.
Which one of these is the cat?
He took the referendum gamble two times before - with election reform and Scottish independence - and won both times. So why not take the gamble a third time? It's got a 100% success rate so far, right?
Well, he bet the opposite way to the election reform one in the Brexit referendum
Looks like the broader mess beyond ventilators last year is now hitting the press. This is about the "VIP lane" where if you knew a Tory MP you could bypass part of the call screening process
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So "nice" to see that conservatives everywhere had the same idea when the pandemic started: "How can I and my chumps profit from this?"
Same here in Germany. Although it was great to see that wrecking their poll numbers in a federal election year. Then they went on to bury the news abit by fighting over who gets to be their candidate for chancellor.
There’s something very Zenith-y about Boris in that they’re both as shallow as a puddle.
Or the one where they have to work together.
The Rhodesia Solution.